Youtube comments of Yester Vue (@yestervue4697).

  1. 97
  2. 45
  3. 43
  4. 26
  5. 21
  6. 17
  7. 15
  8. 14
  9. 12
  10. 10
  11. 10
  12. 9
  13. 5
  14. 5
  15. 4
  16. 4
  17. 4
  18. 4
  19. 4
  20. 4
  21. 4
  22. 4
  23. 4
  24. 3
  25. 3
  26. 3
  27. 3
  28. 3
  29. 3
  30. 3
  31. 3
  32. 3
  33.  @rgg.x1  ~ The secret is bigger than that. Look up where two of the most off-limits places that are to go see are on the earth and can only be reached by flight or sailing. Both are internationally banned from us going there to look. These conversations here are just scratching the surface... ~ Do you believe the Bible at all? The actual reality is genuinely in there. It describes it in detail. That is one of the biggest secrets and it is in one of the forbidden locations where we can walk up to it and see it and touch it, and that is why we're barred from seeing those places. Byrd and Tesla went and actually measured something there that they are hiding, it used to be in Encyclopedias before 1958 but they took it out after the treaty was used to "off-limit" those places to the whole earth. ~ How do they convince you it is round? Well, before you ever even try to think about the concept...like years before, what is one of the first things they show you in kindergarten all over the world. They are donated free to every school too... ~ Ever wonder why they call some things what they do? Like Extraterrestrial for instance? It means "extra, of earth/earthly" actually but it is beat into our heads to mean "from another earth, and not this one". ~ We know better, we have eyes and can see the truth when young quite easily...when we reach young adulthood...they use ridicule and separation with humiliation to get everyone in fear of asking again or questioning things. Like how you can make billions of tons of water stay in the air effortlessly floating in a cloud bank overhead...but then we argue that water can stick to the ocean and not somehow fall off of a round sphere. They use the fear of ridicule and separation to pressure you into a narrative. ~ That by the way...with the eyeballs thing is really kinda sad logic to use if you think about it. Have you ever seen what the globe would look like if you removed all the oceans from it? Even their model is not at all rounded...it looks like a smashed-up piece of gum that's been thrown away...not a sphere. The ocean's surfaces make their model look round, not the planet shape underneath it. ~ Hey, for a quick "things that make ya go hmmm" experience lookup real quick at the logos for the United Nations, and the World Health Organization. Notice ANYTHING odd about them? Have you ever seen that anywhere else? Look the logos up though...very easy and fast to do! Big hidden right in plain sight clue there! ~ You pretty much have to look these things up on your own or you'll never believe me just telling you. You will have to see with your own two eyes. In every paragraph above is something easily searchable, kinda clue l like in other words. I am only trying to make folks think and look for themselves and quit just blindly accepting everything they tell us is true. We all agree the world's governments are shit and lie constantly about everything to us taking advantage at every turn...yet will defend the "science" they dictate/control/teach us and start a gunfight defending that as the gospel truth. That is some pretty inarguable very confused bias at work...cognitive dissonance makes us mad at first though so it is expected. We all went through that when first starting to really understand the world around us... I promise I am only on an enlightening mission...everyone just wants to fight through...conditioning makes us all hostile to one another...I may not be tonight but I will be back soon...Good luck!
    3
  34. 3
  35.  @tejaswaindayskar6547  Absolutely not...I love, believe in, and adore science. None of anything I ever said at all is an argument against it in any fashion show or form...period...never even suggested it remotely. Science is a process to discover knowledge. You do know Admiral Byrd was accompanied by Tesla on the High Jump mission right? You do believe Tesla is one of the greatest scientists to date right? Did you know that before 1958 you could actually look up the firmament in encyclopedias? And in the listing, it actually has the measured degree of the angle it comes up from the earth because it was actually physically measured on that mission right? All this is true, but removed from all textbooks....why? It is actually a concerted effort of science to disprove God...not the other way around. Why if Tesla is basically the father of the modern era...is he not taught in school? I don't mean mentioned as he is only...but taught and in-depth like Edison is? I am saying to look for yourself...everything anyone has ever posted here in rebuttal is not once been taken from anyone posting from their own work at all. it is quoting what others tell you is supposed to be fact, not from anyone's methodic observations and experimentation. It is merely parroting what we have always had repeated to us. This is WAY bigger in proof for alternate evidence but this is blowing everyone away so deeply here with this light end to the subject I dare not dive in any deeper and further repel readers. I keep saying look and observe at the obvious in front of you. You keep saying no, listen to what the textbooks and professors all say. I came to my mindset through more than2 years of trying to determine the truth...not reading others' works and taking only that into consideration. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/14/99/93/1499933c3cd5816aa680bd0ee5e0c616.jpg
    3
  36. Dr. John, if you have the time please watch this and comment? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mK93gHFWXs&t=1519s Please all who have access to this video link that are involved in agencies or groups that have the means to look further into this (like testing) please do??? While watching this I was hit by a thought like a lightening bolt. If this current real time ever increasing situation on earth has such a dramatic effect on human health...could it be the explanation of why Iceland appears to be so untouched by this virus out break? I mean, yes I know they have less travel to and from than the rest of the world, yet they also have one the environmentally cleanest locations on the planet regularly inhabited by humans but that also includes a scarcity in comparison of emitting equipment as described in this documentary. I am a lowly laymen with no real means to go into this on the level it would require to prove results the world would take heed of. This gave me strong inclinations that the reason it may hitting so hard around airports and major cities may actually have some ties the level of transmitting equipment that has effects on the atmosphere by radically increasing the disturbances listed in the video that are in very excessive amounts in these locations. And please, readers/commenters keep the manners in play during this crisis and keep the rude comments holstered (especially those using belittling or name calling). This issue is not at all national, political, social, or racial...it is a human issue we are all stuck with. No one can get off this train called earth at the next stop so we better buckle up and get ready to go along with the rest of us for the ride. This is here and no longer a matter of "if" our Nation/Country/Region gets it, now it has boiled down to dealing with the reality that the HUMAN RACE has this virus...all of us will be dragged down by this collectively whether sick or not. We need to as a SPECIES be contributing all we can, even little no name nobodies like me can help...common guys everyone brainstorm. Don't be shy, science actually knows only a little more than the public does at this point...we are all looking at the same data, especially owing thanks to efforts by individuals like this man here. Dive in, all we have to loose is maybe success in helping, if our ideas don't pan out it was not a waste of time at all, it actually adds to what we know "doesn't" effect or help with this. We are on the threshold of the globe becoming overwhelmed in a very desperate set of circumstances, and I am sorry to say that I am quite certain everyone WILL be attending at least one funeral within your families from a death resulting from this virus . P.S. Sorry I gotta add this...start the spread please? I think all can agree on this... #SaintJohnCambell
    3
  37. 3
  38. 3
  39. 3
  40. 3
  41. 3
  42. 3
  43. Tragedy beyond comprehension from any angle of course because no matter he cause, reason, or purpose...an innocent child lost their life through no recourse of their own. But a worse tragedy if this child's death is used as a grandstand for some political agenda. Just last year I was in the emergency room for severe sun exposure and dehydration. Guess what the first signs of this are? Uncontrolled vomiting, even when attempting to drink your body attempts to "eject" anything toxic and that includes your stomach contents even though holding down water would save your life. After too many hours in the sun you become ill from overexposure to gamma radiation. That's what starts the vomiting, and thus the dehydration is initiated and obviously compounded by the extremes leading up to that point. It took 2 long days of working hard in the desert sun to get to that point and the vomiting started the evening of the first day but eased as I slept after drinking water that first night. I would also like to point out that I am extremely healthy, very fit, work a very physically demanding job, therefore can claim that before the event I was "vibrantly healthy" as well. And yes it is also true that if I had put my 6 year old son through the same multi day trek and then brought him into the emergency room in that condition resulting in his death I would without the slightest pause or question be brought up on very stern charges and prosecuted for his dearth as the responsible party for his care and well being. I am not taking sides in this, I'm only pointing out facts, and everything written by me here is factual and verifiable.
    2
  44. 2
  45. To make a car go around a corner (a radius) you have no other option at all but to make the car turn a radius to follow the one you want to navigate. Period...can't happen any other way. But for some reason, people who think the earth is a sphere, have no problem thinking that a plane does NOT have to operate the same way...and it unquestionably would have to whether anyone likes it or not. If the earth IS a sphere, it has a surface that is a radius and not a straight line as in a flat earth. SO how then do you make a plane use a straight line to navigate around a sphere? You could only do so by having to occasionally or steadily adjust the plane's pitch angle to go "over" the horizon as it progressively curves downward and away from (a radius) the plane's flight path. Yet every person that argues this with me clearly states that a plane does not and would not have to do anything to adjust for that if the earth truly was a sphere! Baffling yet true! Here, we'll put it in a way that most are familiar with as many have experienced this first hand. Take a car at high speed, and approach a hill at that speed. As you progress "up" that hill (the inclined side of that radius as you travel toward it) the car's momentum wants to keep it going that same path. So when you reach the apex of that radius, the car tries to become airborne...and leave the surface because it wants to keep traveling at a straight trajectory. But the front end of the car "points downward" or FOLLOWS THE RADIUS of the hill or it would become airborne, and if fast enough for several yards. Planes are bound to the exact same laws of physics... (PS Physics ARE called LAWS as they are proven so that's why they are not called THEORY btw...like the "heliocentric theory, and "theory of gravity" so on) Just because a plane does not touch the surface of the RADIUS as it travels along over its surface at a maintained altitude it will without question still have to "curve" its flight path downward to stay that altitude or it would just start gaining altitude. The ONLY way to navigate a radius is with another radius and that also applies to planes...period. A straight line and a curved line cannot ever, ever, ever run parallel to one another. Definition of parallel : extending in the same direction, everywhere equidistant (see equidistant sense 1), and not meeting parallel rows of trees The earth looks like this from a high elevation, it is NOT spherical at all. The use of a fisheye lens makes the faked appearance of a curved surface. The earth is flat...look... https://www.bitchute.com/video/HjxMJkOeg5Xs/
    2
  46. 2
  47. 2
  48. 2
  49. 2
  50. 2
  51. 2
  52. 2
  53. 2
  54. 2
  55. 2
  56. 2
  57. 2
  58. 2
  59. 2
  60. 2
  61.  @randyschissler5791  No real modern Christian Church even follows scripture either...I am a former minister I guess you could call it but hate that title. Rather liked to teach what I learned...not lead others in the scriptures. It is what made me stop teaching. I have read the Bible end to end three times in sequential order of books and many times out of order all over in research/studies. Mathew 17...enter through the narrow gate! Many will come to him in the end and most will be told "I never knew you..." I was never a "Preacher" or a "Pastor" leading people to salvation etc...no fire and brimstone messages, no focused topics based on current events and the like. I taught the hard studied and bitter to swallow truths right in the Bible. Not popular as you could imagine except with the Pastors, and Preachers. And no ad-libs...I read straight from the book with a dictionary and linear translations from the old Hebrew and Greek manuscripts and made listeners follow along with word for word to show I did not stray from what was written. No one wants to hear the truths today...they only want comfort and to be told that they can do as they wish and still limbo under the standard...even if they know it is a lie they are hearing. Try being a Bible teacher in rural Arkansas and telling a congregation that Moses's wife was a Midianite... from what is now called Ethiopia. Then point out that in his day and time...there were pretty much only Black people there, and that Moses himself was likely not very "white" in appearance...he quite likely had a very dark-skinned wife! Crickets from the pews...
    2
  62. 2
  63. 2
  64. 2
  65. 2
  66. 2
  67.  @9WEAVER9  Well, that isn't related to what this question was intended to lead one's train of thought into, and without clairvoyance, you can't see where I was going with this. You missed the boat as everyone does by getting SOOO caught up in merely being challenged with a question that makes one think about what they think they know and riled to the point of just "pointlessly and forcibly disagreeing" all along...they never even really thought about shit they were saying at all. You guys act like angry chihuahuas, you have no thought train attached or point to make, you think you must just somehow disagree at every turn no matter the route of discussion as agreeing with anything would make them look stupid...you are one of those. You think it makes you look stern and immovable but really translated into "I am uncomfortable having anything I believe in challenged...so I go straight to mouthy insulting behavior right outa the starting gate"! When you were in school if your teacher asked you a question that made you think and challenged common belief..were you the kid always yelling 'Well I don't get it so fuck you, man!"? Cause that is essentially your behaviour here...are you a teenager or something like that? SOOO, ""YES"" EXACLTY THEY HAVE NO DIFFERENCE! THAT WAS ENTIRELY THE POINT BEING MADE TO OPEN A WINDOW INTO A THOUGHT PROCESS...YOU JUST SLAM WINDOWS THROUGH IN AN ACT OF DEFIANT REBELLION TO EVEN JUST BEING QUESTIONED... CAN YOU SAY "REALLY FUCKING INSECURE WITH YOURSELF"? Grow up I mean seriously...you talk like a punk! Go away until you can act like someone remotely fucking reasonable and stop being such a bitch about things...really...damned internet juveniles!
    2
  68. 2
  69. 2
  70.  @et.anthem  IF YOU DO NOT READ THIS ENTIRELY YOU WILL AGAIN MISUNDERSTAND THE DILEMA I AM POINTING OUT, PARTIAL READING TAKES IT OUT OF CONTEXT AND IS THEREFORE ERRONEOUS IN RESPNSE. You will never make a flat level trajectory (straight line, flying along at zero degrees pitch in attitude) be able to follow and trace just above a curved surface ever. You must without any doubt have to "curve" the flight path to trace it, as the "curve" of the sphere that would be constantly falling away (angeling downward) from you as you proceed forward, so the flight path cannot follow that any other way but to have to constantly adjust the angle in a downward fashion, or descend as it goes along. Straight lines and curved lines are impossibly and forever will be unable to run parallel to one another. Think very hard about that very inarguable fact...and the answers everyone keeps giving, they never add up. The only way for it to do so is to "warp" the laws of physics to make a globe work in the model...and that is not true at all. That realization is the objective...not who is right on flight physics...this is a sphere vs flat plane debate and has always been so. Planes never do that, they never make constant downward adjustments to keep them from leaving the atmosphere eventually,. And even if they could not physically be ejected from it they would still wind up brushing the edge of space in flight eventually if they maintained a perfectly level orientation. Cars jump/become airborne topping the crest of a hill if they do not travel "down" or point the front of the vehicle down the ascending opposite side...the exact same applies to any aircraft if the earth's surface is also curved or essentially just a much bigger hillcrest. Ask any pilot...that is exactly what I repeatedly said...ask a pilot for proof.
    2
  71. 2
  72. 2
  73. 2
  74. 2
  75. 2
  76. 2
  77. 2
  78. 2
  79. 2
  80. I just realized who it was that Jordon reminded me of...and I miss my grandfather now. At the time of his death, since growing up alongside and around him as my only male roll model until I was 9 as a boy, I cannot recall a single memory of his voice being elevated in anger, or him ever yelling for any reason. I can never even ever remember seeing him emotionally shaken in the slightest at anything even when impacting events arose like beloved or younger family members dying throughout our family's history. He always spoke to me in the same enlightening, guiding, fashion, promoting self reflection all along the lesson's journey like this when he had talks with me...he and I spoke quite frankly. The day he died he even looked me square in the eye leaned in so as to make the conversation private in a room full of his own children (as a family elder myself these would obviously be my uncles and aunts, etc) and told me quite straightforwardly..."I don't feel like I can beat this..." in response to me asking in the same forward fashion how he was "really, and honestly" feeling in his cancer battle. Within hours of telling me that in that setting, he died. I felt honored that he looked upon my relationship with him in a way that even in the last hours among his own offspring, when he could have been uttering their most precious and revered last conversations, he waited for a moment we were alone in close proximity to tell me that and me only among the huge family we have many of which were present the day he went from this realm. But that was our private thing between us my whole life with him...he never dressed things up when he spoke to me. I received guidance and lessons as frankly, as factual and realistically as they could be administered. He was a retired Sr. Chief, U.S.N. after enlisting in the early part of the second World War, so the man had the ability to mix so much of the old real world approach to life with these amazing new tools for information sharing.He gave me the gift of near effortless interfacing with information through the advanced ability to read and comprehend extremely well what I had read at a very, very, early age. He had me starting kindergarten at almost a second grade reading level. By the time I was in second grade I had advanced to 7 years ahead of the national scale in the figures of the late 70's when the overall literary level of the country was far higher than it is today. I would watch him eat a cold cut sandwich for lunch with a cup of scalding hot black coffee to follow and a smoke on his porch afterward and when the mentioned procedure had taken place it had included beginning a paperback western novel, (his favorites) beginning to be read, and close with the books finishing! Yes, he read like that, that fast, and took in every word in detail. He taught me that skill, and the realization that if you understand everything you read, you just use the instructions and don;t need the teachers. I "drink" information in like when driven by need or interest today still. He was everything you could expect if "computer brain" Mr. Spock were actually your real life grandfather, even his demeanor, posture, and mannerisms remained mostly military even in the post Navy world except that he actually smiled a lot and hugged all the time! PS, sorry...writer here with no tasks at hand...can you tell? Ha!
    2
  81. 2
  82. 2
  83. 2
  84. 2
  85. 2
  86. 2
  87. 2
  88. 2
  89. 2
  90. 2
  91. 2
  92. 2
  93. 2
  94. 2
  95. 2
  96. 2
  97. 2
  98. 2
  99. 2
  100. 2
  101. 2
  102. 2
  103. 2
  104. 2
  105. 2
  106. 2
  107. 2
  108. 2
  109. 2
  110. 2
  111. 1
  112. 1
  113. 1
  114. 1
  115. 1
  116. 1
  117. 1
  118. 1
  119. 1
  120. 1
  121. 1
  122. 1
  123. 1
  124. 1
  125. 1
  126. 1
  127. 1
  128. 1
  129. 1
  130. 1
  131. 1
  132. 1
  133. 1
  134. 1
  135. 1
  136. 1
  137. 1
  138. 1
  139. 1
  140. 1
  141. 1
  142. 1
  143. 1
  144. 1
  145. 1
  146. 1
  147. 1
  148. 1
  149. 1
  150. 1
  151. 1
  152. 1
  153. 1
  154. 1
  155. 1
  156. 1
  157. 1
  158. 1
  159. 1
  160. 1
  161. 1
  162. 1
  163.  @randyschissler5791  I actually do know, I have actually done stick time myself. My brother-in-law is a pilot, owns his own plane, and the plane I flew was owned by a good old family friend for decades is whose plane I navigated so was actually up at altitude and witnessed tho horizon myself with my own two eyes. Please tell me of your personal experiences as a passenger multiple times or navigator of a plane? You can even verify the existence of the "Phil Woodson Memorial Air Field" yourself. I haven't seen/talked to this owner of said airfield in a long time (20 yrs) so no idea if still operational...but the name is definitely searchable/verifiable. it is in my home county not a half-hour from the house I grew up in! you're a punk with a lot of absolute bull shit to talk about and nothing to back your shit...in other words a total bluff failure! Pisses you off to lose, doesn't it? lol... Shut your shit and prove me wrong...do it, put up, or shut your punk shit up! ANYTHING short of proof is absolute undeniable evidence you failed...totally...period! Words mean NOTHING..show us, we're waiting still! I am speaking the truth, verifiable. The fact that a curved line is impossibly forever unable to be traced with any type of straight line is going to kick your ass forever in this rhetoric...period. The only way in the universe that a radius can be followed by a parallel line in relation to it is called a concentric radius. First look up the forever unchangeable definition of what a parallel line is, and then look up what a concentric radius is. The only way to trace a radius is with another radius...period. See for yourself how your perpetual bullshit just digs you further into ridicule! Look it up! You look forever more and more stupid the more you talk!!! Show me with proof and facts, not forever bullshit words in this chat but real evidence that it can be done and I will openly concede and proclaim you the victor in this open forum for the entire universe to see. I will wait on your failure...repeating bullshit in place of proof is not anything...prove or step aside. You're cornered. Do it and prove me wrong...I'll wait. Planes cannot EVER, EVER, EVER, run along at a fixed altitude over the course of a transatlantic flight and NEVER have to point the nose of the craft downward/change the pitch of the craft IF THE EARTH SURFACE WAS CURVED! You continue to talk shit and never once provided anything of proof or even logic to back it! Do it! Common, pull up a quote from a flight manual, some google fact verification...hell ANYTHING you want but your own words failed repeatedly! And always will! You bombed so badly! Go away before you embarrass yourself further...seriously! You lose over and over and over and over and over and over...and the more you talk you continue to do so! Show me anything that DISPROVES you cannot trace a radius with anything other than a radius and you win!!!!!! Can't do it! FOREVER YOU CAN'T!!!!!
    1
  164. 1
  165.  @randyschissler5791  Yep, and totally true. The same way a car cannot go around a curve and keep the wheels straight...you guys ALL go ver the wrong point. Evasive and pointless and dodging the answer. In fact, terrified to face the truth. Curved lines cannot ever be followed by straight ones, we aren't even talking about altitudes. You can if you'd like but hell get your brother and law to show me or you on paper how a straight line can trace a radius. Never able to be done, by anyone. For a plane to maintain altitude it has no choice but to trace a radius if the world is a ball...and it's not. The reason the panes do NOT have to adjust is that they fly across FLAT planes of the earth, in other words, straight lines, not a radius. Tell him to look up the patent for the plane he flies...and read the description of the craft. It is right in there for all to read. You all love being lied to, like trying to pull a horse from a burning barn. I can't tolerate you any longer, talking to you is like clapping with one hand... https://brandnewtube.com/watch/1-hour-best-fake-station-fails-compilation-nasa-lies-flat-earth_QziXeRspIo62NYx.html https://anonup.com/upload/videos/2021/03/w8jJbLX7o564B6Y2A4UN_31_8d9931117104061644af80a32e62c48b_video_original.mp4 https://www.bitchute.com/video/3kYRA7SE8We6/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/HjxMJkOeg5Xs/ You look like a fool in the face of proof going on, and on, and on, urgh! Your hopeless. But others reading will look at the links and then agree that yeah...you got proofed and look stupid continuing.
    1
  166. 1
  167. 1
  168. 1
  169. 1
  170. 1
  171. 1
  172. 1
  173. 1
  174. 1
  175. 1
  176. 1
  177. 1
  178. 1
  179. 1
  180. 1
  181. 1
  182. 1
  183. 1
  184. 1
  185. 1
  186. 1
  187. 1
  188. 1
  189. 1
  190. 1
  191. 1
  192. 1
  193. 1
  194. 1
  195. 1
  196. 1
  197. 1
  198. 1
  199. 1
  200. 1
  201. 1
  202. 1
  203. 1
  204. 1
  205. 1
  206. 1
  207. 1
  208. 1
  209. 1
  210. 1
  211. 1
  212. 1
  213. 1
  214. 1
  215. 1
  216. 1
  217. 1
  218. 1
  219. 1
  220. 1
  221. 1
  222. 1
  223. 1
  224. 1
  225. 1
  226. 1
  227. 1
  228. 1
  229. 1
  230. 1
  231. 1
  232. 1
  233. 1
  234. 1
  235. 1
  236. 1
  237. 1
  238. 1
  239. 1
  240. 1
  241. 1
  242. 1
  243. 1
  244. 1
  245. 1
  246. 1
  247. 1
  248. 1
  249. 1
  250. 1
  251. 1
  252. 1
  253. 1
  254. 1
  255. 1
  256. 1
  257. 1
  258. 1
  259. 1
  260. 1
  261. 1
  262. 1
  263. 1
  264. 1
  265. 1
  266. Former licensed journeyman electrician with nearly three decades of real life hands on field work behind me. I specialized in industrial construction and was carded/insured to terminate 13k volt transmission and distribution grade/level work. This is electricity on the scale of large lightning bolts kind of stuff...when you get a ground fault from this stuff it trips out entire sections of town and if you really dress correctly with PPE for this work it still has an extremely high likely hood to kill if not careful and the PPE will just allow you to have an open casket funeral instead of a closed one with a crispy body scorched beyond physical recognition. My descriptions led to this statement on this issue... The system cannot be upgraded like that "poof" at all. This "we'll just FIX IT with the snap of a billions of dollar check!" crap is a lie. The cost and sheer scale of "upgrading" the US grid is likely cost incalculable even. The system has been being made more and more effective through the constant upgrading of the transformers but every buck in power results in a buck of ground fault potential. This is why the electrical community usually gets hammered with mostly grounding upgrades in knowledge when doing continuing ed for licensing. In other words, same wires, same system, just more dangerous now and getting rather maxed out in areas too. I am telling you all straight out honestly that your local residential area is not even wired heavily enough to allow half the cars on your block to charge same time without overloading/faulting something somewhere if everyone had an EV in your hood. This is all literally a smoke and mirrors bullshitting on a world wide scale.
    1
  267. 1
  268. 1
  269. 1
  270. 1
  271. We have repeatedly established over a two-week period here on this very chat string, that Globetrotters begin every conversation in response to flat earth believers with insults and name-calling, or made up pretty much just lies about things they claim we say or believe. Cognitive dissidence and lack of manners reign supreme here with the trolls buttered up with a thick topping of hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs. Welcome to the modern communist world where distance and anonymity make people outright assholes in public media forums because not one of them has the balls to go address a real person like that face to face, in person, where you can be hit in the mouth hard enough to give a quick study in mutual respect for others...kids these days. I guess when you feel like shit about yourself with no convictions and have no inclination to remedy your shortcomings you attack everyone around you and try to drag them down to your lower level...sigh. Yes, even the ones who are many decades-old...still never move beyond child-like behavior...you should be proud of yourselves and I hope you aren't raising children to behave like that. So take it away guys and keep it up, I know I can count on you all to maintain the status quo of fear and loathing and respond with more empty-headed, mindless insults off the cuff refecting a lack of anything really worthy of saying...or hearing. Take it away insults...you're on! (hands the mic to the next prick in line to prove me right once again...)
    1
  272. 1
  273.  @boterlettersukkel  Still waiting for yYOUR proof? Words and insults are what jocks do when the smart kid makes them look dumb in front of others and they panic...like your rhetoric. I can with tsunamis of evidence and for so much more than you can believe starting out...I know I was the same when I started learning this years back. I only started with the topic of the flat earth and this is just the tip of the iceberg. An "ice breaker" if you will to much more than that, you have no idea how deceived you are. And quite comfortable in deliberate willful ignorance. But it takes bravery to confront change and fear always wins in the end with the majority when the narrative is overwhelmingly controlled and repugnant to losing its control through that fear, ask Martin Luther! But I would not consider throwing pearls before swine as yourself, closed minds are done...they have nothing more than their current situation to glean from life...they have gone as far as they will ever go and no more Hell, I am STILL waiting for all the big mouths with hate-filled and terrified responses to post ONE SINGLE TINY BIT of evidence to the contrary of my claims...just shitty attitudes run by an unwillingness to step out of the crowd with pitchforks and torches and actually see if who they are trying to burn alive in blind rage-filled lynch mobs actually is a witch after all...but they won't'. Social pressure is far stronger than their weak minds could ever muster the strength to stand up for themselves with the idea of learning...so they stay stupid and ignorant of the truth. You couldn't take it, could you? HAD to come back eh...lol. (you did mention more than once I believe you had no interest in debating this any longer...???) Thanx for the rent-free space in your head!
    1
  274. 1
  275. 1
  276. 1
  277.  @boterlettersukkel  Was a time when mature real men could converse with one another, and then if an impasse was reached...they could respectfully disagree. But that required manners and mutual respect for one another even if on opposite sides of a debate. The problem with you is that your always heated posturing blatantly expresses two things you are thoroughly absent in..."maturity" and "respect". You, no matter your age or so-called education level...(which i doubt to the highest in spite of your empty claims to it...) fell into the current social manipulation scheme and like a good obedient idiot followed suit with how the rest of the IQ crippled social practices of today's general population of fools have trained you to do, and kicked your manhood to the curb and began the parroting of the media trained attitude you seemed to have absorbed so well. You could have been brave enough to be your own man, have but that is apparently beyond you and your limited social abilities. So you just followed suit... I would suspect you to be the wife-beater type, a small-minded and insecure degenerate that tries to manipulate your spouse and/or children through domination, fear, and intimidation. Violence overwhelms your mouth and your mind has an obvious hair-trigger explosive response mechanism controlling it. You become quite aggressive in a flash, proven multiple times here in just a simple chat string when anyone disagrees with you. And I am a total stranger...I shudder at how you would react to that behind closed doors where you felt safe enough to really blow your stack and double up fists in reply. Your way, or no way! And would bet if they keep disagreeing with your ideologies...you will smack that disagreement right out of them...maybe even with children. Talking with you in an attempt to have a conversation with another "adult" (which I also have grave doubts about)...is just like turning on CNN and watching the riots we went through last summer. Remember those? Where the "righteous" representatives of today's social shitheads burned buildings, beat and murdered people in the streets, and just attacked anyone that would not agree with them? Not just for having a difference of opinion, but trying through the means of cavemanlike behavior tried to "force" the world to agree with them? You would be a shameful representative of an educated adult. But I have come to the conclusion that you surely are just a young immature, and grossly misdirected mouthy liar with no real education to back your empty head and vile mouth. Grow up...you are a pathetic example of a man and I would never allow my children to grow up as you have become...you proved you are little more than shit with skin. I just pray you don't go toss back a few over this and begin beating someone you love in frustration, but it would not surprise me in the slightest. I wish I lived next door to you...I'd buy rounds for you and sit and wait in a lawnchair for you to get buzzed enough to "man up" and bring that attitude close enough to get taught some old-school real man-to-man manners lessons. Juvenile punk assholes like you are always the "bravest" of the lot when the distance and anonymity of the internet keep you at a safe distance. I am sure you will have some mighty and overblown attempt at a puffed-up red-faced come back to this...but I'm betting that in reality, you couldn't beat your way out of a wet paper sack! It would be fun to do a vaso drop on you...I am not threatening you, I never pull the first move...just saying...you have no real bravery to speak of and it shows like a blinding spotlight on you for all to see.
    1
  278.  @randyschissler5791  That is not at all true actually. And yes if observed I have much to offer for educational purposes, but you are too afraid for that. But to start out your reply with your "blathering" label already tells me your true intent. If anyone was truly interested in becoming enlightened in anything at all they would never go to a college and apply to get some instructional "blathering" from a professor. You are not going to take anything I have to say with any intention of learning anything. You all are amazing at only TWO things as far as years of doing this has many times over proven to me...and that is opening with a chip on your shoulder loaded with derogatory talk obviously aimed at only baiting us into saying anything at all you so you can continue the same exact juvenile behavior. So tell me, the real truth...why do you come to these videos at all in the first place? To genuinely learn something? Or to merely go to where you know you will be surrounded by a crowd of like-minded bullies where you have no doubt you can find targets for that type of behavior? I rest my case. Do some soul searching. it takes a brave person to challenge their paradigms and a very small-minded person to "hunt down" places you can pick on others for some demented sense of satisfaction from the aciton. You have no intention of looking at anything for proof, you just want to be another nobody prick in a sea of others like yourself to poke fun at people and try to get laughs at others' expense...quite empty and pathetic when you really step back and look at it...like the bullies in school making fun of handicapped children and laughing with other thugs at them. You are a tiny insecure person on the inside, it takes one to do that.
    1
  279. 1
  280. 1
  281. 1
  282.  @philaypeephilippotter6532  There is more beyond the ice wall, more than everyone thinks there is to this landmass. We never even think of the words used to describe things like the term "Extra-Terrestrial"...break down the word into its two separate meanings. Extra=more Terrestrial=of earth/land. If the moon phases are supposedly a shadow of the earth's "sphere" passing between the sun and moon...how do you explain we get a curved crescent that progresses into a moon cut in half by a totally straight edge in the middle? You can turn out the lights in a room and prove that to yourself with a flashlight...try it. Take a ball or anything round and pass it between a flashlight and the wall making a shadow puppet if you will with the ball on the wall. As you slowly make the sphere shadow appear at the edge and progress it will make the crescent shadow so familiar as ith a quarter moon phase. But there is NO point when passing all the way from one side to the other that you get totally halved by as "straight edge" shadow as we see in the sky...THAT is PROOF Phil, try it. I said multiple times I am no trying to make a fool of anyone. I am merely trying to show others what I learned myself and show how THEY are making fools of you, not me. You have the link for the videos to the best collection of actual video PROOFS I have found. I am not a video producer I am into journalism so I write. I use other's videos as they have collections produced into one place of things I used to have to collect in small clips and thus have to post in multiple links whereas these are far easier to use than that. Start with that sight, he is my favorite to use as he posts so much video material and experiments done on video. You can now begin on your own in private to look into. I have no intention of hearing from you again either. In other words, I am not looking for anyone to return and say "yeah you were right" or seeking any recognition for anything at all. I only want others to quit being lied to, to stop the big deception...this is not at all about me or anything I am saying. I do not have a single monetized motivation for any of this effort other than the spread of truth. Good luck.
    1
  283.  @philaypeephilippotter6532  Go back to your cult church of modern science where there are also others who are too afraid to challenge a paradigm...a mass of scared very tiny-minded individuals is all you are every one of you. You are not brave enough to learn any longer...so you won't ever again. You are only practicing "faith" and not at all science, as YOU personally have seen nothing. You are very good at taking what others tell you as proof and then through FAITH taking that rhetoric and trying to bully people with it that don't think like you. People like you burned Luther at the stake alive...real class acts you guys are. You can't use reason and logic, you just look for the next crowd of angry lynch mobbers with pitchforks and torches seeking the next victim...sad and extremely small minds. Fear filled to stand on your own...so you need to collect with other idiots to make up for a real empty lacking inside. You are all just mean kids making fun of the "nerd" in school because you feel inferior to them inside and trying to get others to laugh along with you pointing at them in groups of small-minded punks. Except now decades later as an old nobody with a grey beard today...but still, a punk moron with a depleted IQ, never having progressed past a 16-year-old mindset for how to deal with life socially, using nothing other than humiliation as a tool for acceptance and no brains. You should give up those junior high methods today at your age...they make you look incredibly immature to the world at large. You are now just an "OLD" punk nobody...someone who is nothing in the world trying to be something still by seeking out the same disruptive kids in the class to hang with for comfort. Do something with your life, Phil quit seeking out places for no other reason except to try to ridicule others to make yourself feel better about your overload of shortcomings and failed efforts. As a failure in the world and a nobody...that won't change that...it only perpetuates that nothingness that you are. You haven't the slightest research into anything behind your remarks only FAITH in others from the cult you are part of. It is exactly that, a faith in what others told you. YOU haven't presented a single damned thing to back your mouth except what others mouthed before you that you repeat...parroting and nothing more period. YOU haven't posted ANYTHING but comments. We can all see how good you are at insults, and that is really ALL you have done. It is all here for everyone to read and see, naked and exposed... So have a great continuation of your dismal wallowing in nothingness as just another nobody, a teenager with a grey beard a hollow empty failure. THIS is NOT journalism and I never claimed it to be, and the only one who waved that around was YOU, in just another failed attempt at mockery. I mentioned I like to write, that's all. You never even knew that after this whole entire conversation till now and you grasped at it like a drowning man trying in vain to use as another tool to attempt ridicule...fail! If I am wrong in all I stated here...WHY do you come here? To these video chats? To learn? To grow? To improve your knowledge and understanding of the world? Or as I know, mentioned above, and is indeed the real truth...only TO MAKE FUN OF OTHERS IN YOUR IGNORANCE FOR COMFORT....your entire many days' long verbal vomiting proves what I just stated. You're an absolute failure in that attempt and mindset and apparently quite uncomfortable as such...work to change that instead of trying to pull everyone around you down to your level to feel better about it. PS~Go fuck yourself, Phil you are a proven, idiot and I offer this whole conversation for review as my PROOF that you, with great effort, carved out all on your own.
    1
  284. 1
  285. 1
  286. 1
  287. 1
  288. 1
  289. 1
  290. 1
  291. 1
  292. 1
  293. 1
  294. 1
  295. 1
  296. STOP FOLLOWING NAZI SCIENCE PROPAGANDA, THIS IS ALL BULLSHIT...ONLY THE FEARLESS SHOULD READ ON FROM HERE, ALL OTHERS SHOULD IGNORE THIS! Hitler killed millions on propaganda alone, and he used his vast network of cohorts to accomplish that. The after constant repetition of his propaganda which was not true at all even remotely...he used the scientists and henchman under his leadership to carry out his evil work...he did not at all do it by himself. Now, we supposedly defeated him, and then what happened to all that support group? Where the hell did those guys all go? Ever heard of "Operation Paperclip"? Yeah, they just brought them all here and they became NASA, and all other "modern sciences" we follow ( I don't but man, loads of you worship them like Gods!) and became the platform for everything we teach our children in schools today. Those children grow up, get on platforms like this, and through the concerted effort of a never-ending bombardment of the same repetition machine...have everyone under the same exact spell of belief...in bullshit, not any of it EVER proven but believed by the masses like as if God himself had handed it down on a stone tablet with Moses. I wonder how many people in Germany helped persecute a friend or neighbor they knew to the point of them being rounded up and executed and ever slept well again knowing they only participated in the persecution through fear of standing out only? You can verify this easily on your own...right after they arrived we scrapped what was in our science literature and educational materials...why would we do that? It was all originally based on "empirical science" and we dumped it all for an agenda built on and based entirely on "theoretical science" So you are all firmly rooted in the exact same hypnotic slavery they used to kill millions by the very same individuals that did it in Germany. Just as the German people did, you all follow along blindly out of fear of standing apart and questioning things, looking deeper into what someone tells you is true without doing the slightest amount of work to discover the truth for yourselves. So you are all beating and humiliating, and insulting those that would question or doubt the narrative just as they got the German people to do it to the Jews. It's just now it is the argument of round or flat earth...see your folly? And your blind devotion to only propaganda and no evidence? You all ridicule anyone who doubts based only and nothing else at all...the fact that others in overwhelming numbers believe it also. "I was only following orders"...right? The ONLY so-called proof anyone keeps repeating (not EVER showing merely repetition of the programmed propaganda out of fear of being laughed at by others and no logic at all by the very well conditioned sheeple...) comes from...wait for it...TADA...NASA! Think before you just continue the same old Nazi methods of manipulating the truth and actually seek this so-called evidence. Don't keep saying "we have proof!" go and actually see if any of it does indeed prove anything or is just so commonly stated that you can't think up any other statement you have heard repeating it blindly as you have no other ammo to spout off with. You aren't "proving " anything to those that balk at the globe earth model, you are just joining in the persecution of those that would not follow along...driving them along helping them round them up, push them into cattle cars, and beginning the mass extermination of TRUTH. I a not the fool...you all are that follow blindly with no proof, there is none and no one can post anything otherwise. Repeated propaganda from NASA/Nazis does not at all constitute reality...sorry. Find any real proof outside of NASA...I dare you to try... For this so-called "proof' don't be an idiotic mindless programmed sheep and spout phrases people were badgering folks with since before you were even born, (add it up, those statements repeated over and over started right after the Nazis were brought here) and go out and look something up on your own...research yourselves, do some observations (that is science, not just saying the word, its a method to discover the truth, not the truth because a phrase contains the word science in it...) and learn before you bet your life on it. Don't reply...I am not interested in any debate on this. If you want to argue you are brainwashed and I cannot have any offer of help or knowledge for you. I only try to get folks to use a different point of view...another angle to observe at in hopes of enlightenment as the end goal. Anything contrary to this is only the same old brainless repetition of insults and rude comments and I m about to puke on the next ones that start that same old shit. Questions, inquiries...they are awesome! Same old insults decades old, but a repetition of shit other people started over a generation before you ever got here...is the enemy, not me. Talk with your brain, not your fear of standing out and apart from others...good luck in your pursuit of truth. We are all merely humble students and masters of no knowledge whatsoever...
    1
  297. 1
  298. 1
  299. 1
  300. 1
  301. 1
  302. 1
  303. 1
  304. 1
  305. 1
  306. 1
  307. 1
  308. 1
  309. 1
  310. 1
  311. 1
  312. 1
  313. 1
  314. 1
  315. Please do "science" me an answers for the following two questions. This should be SOOOOOOO easy to support evidence against or discount on either question! I am double dog daring, out in the public, calling out the fools, to shut me up with factual rebuttals that show the real and true answers to these TWO QUESTIONS only...and I personally will secede this entire conversation on behalf of everyone that believes we don't leave earth. FIRST= Where they stowed the big dune buggy they drove all over the moon when they landed there? Or was it already there? I mean it's near the size of the lander itself so musta been like packed to an extreme to get that buggy in there with the guys as well. Then did it unfold? Or did it come like a giant erector set they had to assemble there? So to discount this question as bunked, show the footage, the craft, the delivery method, or assembly on the spot organized equipment staging, just anything at all that shows how the hell they had a buggy to drive on the moon, and how they got it there. With real events would come real evidence and there isn't any... SECOND= I want ANYONE at all anywhere, through any means that can be considered/provable as real somehow...the name of the photographer that filmed the lunar lander departing the moon when they left the surface of the moon. I mean, did they land again and pick him up then hop up once more after he got that shot? Or did they leave someone behind and sacrifice a life to get that photo shot as proof we went to the moom? Think hard about that...how did they get that shot? The craft is shown blowing a spray of "diamonds" as it is jettisoned into the air to go back to earth, and the camera clearly pans upward tracking the craft...who the hell took that film footage? That never gets thought about does it?... This is not any researchable hidden evidence you need to spend years uncovering and losing your friends and becoming a hermit in the basement online all the time or anything like that...it is opening your own eyes...looking at what has been right in front of your face all these years...and using your brain to tell you what you see for yourself.
    1
  316. 1
  317. 1
  318. 1
  319. 1
  320. 1
  321. 1
  322. 1
  323. 1
  324. 1
  325. 1
  326. 1
  327. 1
  328.  @tatonemio6388  I am only showing you what is in your face, read back to the beginning. You types are always so short on reading comprehension...you get swept up in the passion too rigidly and overlook too easily. GO BACK AND READ FROM THE BEGINNING. I claimed nothing, I told you what to look at in stuff already freely available to the public on the internet...now you go tell NASA about the information right there for all to see...it isn't my information! Slow down, your tripping yourself up on your own words...I did nothing of the sort, it is all there. Some say it is a lovely warm spring rain dripping down your face, and I say it is a cock pissing all over you. you have nothing more than to look yourself, but most chose to ignore the smell of piss and their own eyes because everyone else believes it's a spring rain...LIKE THE TV TOLD US IT WAS! NASA proves itself in it's own photos. There are no existing pictures of any celestial bodies at all and they say it in every damned picture you post to disprove that...go look yourself idiot! There are no live camera shots of anything in "space" IT IS ALL COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGERY (IT'S CALLED CGI!) , nothing we use is above low earth orbit even the space station...GO LOOK IT UP ON THEIR INFO ACCESS NOT MINE, IT IS IN YOUR FACE TELLING YOU. You can't get past the Van Allen belt THEY TELL you not me...go look up where that is, and then compare where our stuff floats about. Quit being an idiot for an idiot's sake...that just went out of popularity recently...
    1
  329. 1
  330. 1
  331. 1
  332. 1
  333. 1
  334. 1
  335. 1
  336. 1
  337. 1
  338. 1
  339. 1
  340. 1
  341.  @trailbossdan1 I have been online since online was a thing...the first dial up phone internet...I talked across. Hell I remember when we started using our Commodre64 computers (Google em...way old desktops...like some of the first) way back in the 80's before there was an internet for the public even...we talked about whether people would look for truth or if the same propaganda blanket would dominate the internet too! Sure enough...you all just kept the hook in your mouths and dragged the pole you're hooked with to this dimension as well. Money always does that to systems though, rapes your minds for profit and control of profit. You guys are the willing slaves...look deeper. The best trained slaves can't see their chains...I watched the birth of a new type of media zombie as well come to life in the '80s...when videos started taking over the dead air spaces between movies on the new cable TV systems. See, they didn't have enough material to fill cable television with original content in the beginning, so they used videos to do it with. It wasn't meant to do what it did...but music videos became a powerful tool for manipulation! Grew into one of the biggest markets on the planet! You are all so enslaved and can't realize it from your toilet...they made it so deep you can't see over the rim! I watched it all happen...year after year, into decades...and now I argue with the screen-slave class when it started out writing back and forth in newspaper and magazine articles. You can't see out of the shit cause you were born into it and it's because know nothing else. You guys are the most lost of the lost and those are the lost that have no clue they are lost! if the grid dies...your type will be among the first wave of deaths....you are filled with only what is being pumped into your head live time...cut the feed...the mind is empty on it's own. Stop arguing everything with an empty head...fill your brain on your own. Your memory is attached to a batter life or electrical cord...you would be stupid without the internet live in your hand...realize and look at life with real eyes. Over 90% of people today couldn't survive a power outage for a month without the internet...they forgot how to access knowledge without a screen feeding it! You guys are the newbies...and it shows embarrassingly...
    1
  342. 1
  343. 1
  344. 1
  345. 1
  346. 1
  347. 1
  348. 1
  349. ​ @AnOfficialYouTubeProfile  I started this whole thing out from the moment I dropped the bait. The bait was the boast in the opening sentences, bait nabbed. I started out telling all involved this was to make other people look at things more closely and see with their own eyes...to make greater thinkers that don't just follow blindly along with what they are told is the truth. Truth comes through witness, not repetition. So then i even continued on explaining that there will always be a few who pick the argument to pieces forever and that they were not even the object of the plant but the vessel that I would carry it to others with. I told you I would be "using" you to have others with real intelligence look into things mentioned in this conversation...cause there are those who do so. So the seeds I intended to plant were sown already...and you guys followed along exactly as I kept saying it would happen...like blindly sticking to arguing and not even reading what you were arguing about! It was hilarious, entertaining to the intelligent ones that actually slow down and look, and you guys never failed to come through making yourselves look like idiots further and further into this. Read back...it's totally true. You got troll smoked man...relax and learn from this. How many times do I have to say you guys are too easy for you to clue in and read back and see...people that followed along know you got played you just don't get it yet. I'll bet you reply to this again even! Quit while YOU are ahead and looking stupid...I am getting more coffee and moving on...bye now.
    1
  350.  @trailbossdan1  I started this whole thing out from the moment I dropped the bait. The bait was the boast in the opening sentences, bait nabbed. I started out telling all involved this was to make other people look at things more closely and see with their own eyes...to make greater thinkers that don't just follow blindly along with what they are told is the truth. Truth comes through witness, not repetition. So then i even continued on explaining that there will always be a few who pick the argument to pieces forever and that they were not even the object of the plant but the vessel that I would carry it to others with. I told you I would be "using" you to have others with real intelligence look into things mentioned in this conversation...cause there are those who do so. So the seeds I intended to plant were sown already...and you guys followed along exactly as I kept saying it would happen...like blindly sticking to arguing and not even reading what you were arguing about! It was hilarious, entertaining to the intelligent ones that actually slow down and look, and you guys never failed to come through making yourselves look like idiots further and further into this. Read back...it's totally true. You got troll smoked man...relax and learn from this. How many times do I have to say you guys are too easy for you to clue in and read back and see...people that followed along know you got played you just don't get it yet. I'll bet you reply to this again even! Quit while YOU are ahead and looking stupid...I am getting more coffee and moving on...bye now.
    1
  351. 1
  352. 1
  353. 1
  354. 1
  355. 1
  356. 1
  357. 1
  358. 1
  359. Really? Common people, how many of you took a drag off a cigarette and put it down just before typing scathing replies? How many of you yourselves are actually overweight, unhealthy, and suffering in any way from something? Most illness in America is actually directly resulting from horrible diets and eating habits. How many of you are aware that following the American Dietary Guidelines are exactly what is making us, our children, and our Military overweight? Our children are now far more often found to be overweight than in healthy weight ranges and suffering from all sorts of what used to be most often adult types of afflictions en mass for the first time in our national history? Every school you go to usually has more overweight kids than normal weight ranges. They now look just like the adult population does only in shorter versions but the double chins, huge spare tires, labored breathing, can all be found in any line in a typical American school hallway now and it is grievous to the extreme to me. And it is the same with any line of adults say for instance standing in wait at the DMV, they look the same just taller and some of the boys now have facial hair. You do realize that this food here in this so-called "news piece" is being attacked directly from the angle of "Not following proper guidelines" don't you? And the mentioned guidelines are the same ones killing us from obesity when you follow them even strictly? Now don't misunderstand me, the bread, sauces, all the veggies, etc. and especially ALL THAT SUGAR along with those meats and fats are terrible for you! And yes it is even in the mustard! EVERYTHING has sugar added to it nowadays somehow. Trying to be a fluff healthy eater and say "I only eat fresh sushi for lunches!" kinda gal? Well, look into the fact that over half of even authentic sushi places ADD sugar to the rice so it stays in nice tight stuck together rolls. You will likely be shocked. And the oils they use to cook everything...don't get me started on oils! And of those, the absolute worst...SHORTENINGS AND THE LIKE! Gak! Flies won't even eat those shortenings or artificial butter spreads! Did you know that all your store shelf food oils used to be just industrial lubricants and that they are so super duper chemically processed to make them edible and not smell absolutely unbearable? That is the real truth about oils by the wey. They had a far greater negative impact on our health overall than sugars did when they came along and were finally common in all households. And before anyone wants to roll up their sleeves and try to batter that claim down with any reports or statistics...be fairly warned. I can tsunami you under in reply with real, published, accepted, legitimate statistics, reports, research, and the like from nations all over the world and in current real-time standing....not 20 yr old data. That's also a big problem...most data used to argue against meat is sooooo outdated. Here is the freakiest thing I discovered in learning about what humans should really eat like to be healthy as we can in modern times. I just spent the last year doing intense research on this very subject and now my house has a storage freezer full of meat, as well as the fridge in the house, my son eats eggs, bacon, sausage, and cheese almost daily for breakfast with a glass of milk so now is actually LOSING weight. Mornings on some days he passes on breakfast all together as meat fills you longer and he is not hungry still from dinner the night prior. I am 53yrs old, I stand just a hair under 6ft tall, have a 31" waistline, weigh 174 lbs. I dropped an inch n half in the waist but gained 4lbs on a meat diet and I do no extra exercise. I changed nothing at all about my normal usual physical routine except that I pace the house now when watching informative online educational pieces as I can't sit still often with so much energy. I have absolutely zero joint pains in any portion of my body at all. My chronically tired bloodshot eyes cleared up. I sleep from 4-6 hours only every single night and most often about 4.5 hrs nightly. And rise directly from opening my eyes to abruptly sitting up fully awake and almost never yawn in the morning anymore and I don't have the sensation of a need to stretch when rising, but still do at evening times but only about once or twice before laying my head down and falling asleep within minutes. I go days and even up to a week at a time without ever having a gas cramp and if eating strictly I completely lost that ever-present sensation of intestinal bloating. I literally live off of about a 97% pure meat diet, and the largest portion of what I eat that is not meat would consist mainly of morning coffee, (2 cups daily, w/only half n half no sweetened coffee! In fact, I don't use sugar, honey, syrup, anything to sweeten anything at all) and an occasional alcohol beverage but they hurt me now after being so clean so 1-2 drinks even when widely spaced in rate of consumption give me a headache, puffy eyes, and grogginess in the mornings which is now completely alien to me. And the reason I will often pace while learning is the fact that it can be 11:45pm, the wife is asleep, the boy long since asleep, and it can be almost 2am before I feel like laying down. I watch the sun come up every morning, even a day with nothing to do I am still up in time for it. In the summers my night of sleep just slowly shifts around so I am still up before the sunrise begins. I almost literally feel like I am on stimulants when awake now, I kinda hum with energy. It is fabulous! For my 10am breakfast I am going to bake a whole pound of bacon and eat it in a sitting with a glass of water. My last meal was 8pm yesterday when we stopped at Burger King in a pinch (VERY rarely we do that now and it is always in some situation that mandates it) and grabbed a couple bacon double cheeseburgers each and ate only the meat and cheese, and then I had half a leftover ribeye from the previous night as soon as I finished the burger as we had arrived at home. Oh, I only have a bowel movement ONCE a day almost always in the mornings, and it rarely is more than about a coffee cup of waste matter in total after about a 3-4 lb or so daily consumption rate going into me. No constipation either unless I get a bit carried away with the 3lb cheddar cheese block that is always there in my fridge.
    1
  360. 1
  361. 1
  362. 1
  363. 1
  364. 1
  365. 1
  366. 1
  367. 1
  368. 1
  369.  @MrSirhcsellor  Well...at 54 yes I have. I had no more science courses available to me my senior year...I had taken everything my school offered by the finish of my Jr year so had to resort to self personal interest studies. I have been steeped in the same things everyone posts for decades now. Grew up and went through American education systems myself as everyone else did...how do you think they all got it as well? In other words, have already spent DECADES submerged in the same thing I keep getting presented over and over so yeah...for lack of better description, "know it like the back of my had" so to speak. The "guns a blazing" remark actually helps this too. Lemme explain. I used to be able to talk about things contrary to the common core beliefs and be met with manners and polite exchanges. Fast forward a decade to today...EVERYTHING is a verbal throwdown to the death. It is like I am not discussing anything any longer with folks...it is immediately met with the attitude that I just called someone stupid first. It is a programmed change in the overall mentality of todays' people to just be violent even verbally to every challenge. Manners died... If I show you a bird flying...it is "inarguable" that a bird can fly. If I am "told" over and over the same rhetoric...it doesn't offer anything outside parroted words I also have heard for decades. I saw different than what I had been told and shown (I believed the NASA pics/vids and such till I had it pointed out how bad they really were upon closer inspection) so looked deeper. I have 2 questions for you ... 1)You believe your government NEVER lies to you? 2)Did you actually watch/see all the footage provided or just respond in chat to the chat? See, this is only the same preprogrammed "I ain't even looking at what I am calling ancient foolishness, just gonna parrot the same indoctrinations over and over, it's comfortable to not be moved in my beliefs." that I am always met with. Seems more fear the truth. i will stop here and not continue with you...I had mistaken you for someone actually listening and looking instead of just keeping up the same verbal debate w/no actual witnessing any evidence provided. Sorry for wasting your time, and good luck! If we feel we are through learning anything more in life...we are indeed through.
    1
  370.  @MrSirhcsellor he arena of consensus science debate is a deliberately stacked deck in advance of shutting down any opposition to the consensus opinion before it can even be offered. Any proof is forcefully slammed with no acceptance for even attempts at peer review to be placed into a one-way street of "if it isn't peer-reviewed and condoned...it is unable to even be presented in debate as evidence" so that's forever impossible. It is an unbeatable setup, deliberately arranged in advance to quelch anything that can be presented in an alternative light and as such, it forces any debater to go forth with no other option than to don the "Jester's Cap" and walk solo into a Gladiatorial Arena of jeers, laughter, and mockery waiting ahead of time with bated breath to do no more than ridicule and insult the oppostion. I am not and never have been "paranoid" either. When you learn you have been lied to, look and through actual lengthy investigation learn that is true with self witnessed evidence...you can never fit back into the old way of thinking you left again. I am a decades-long experienced investigative journalist by hobby...so open my mouth AFTER investigation and never on a spontaneous viewing of a video or online chat point. This username is one of many I write under on many platforms. I interact with dozens daily in conversation, comfortably can absorb a few hundred pages a night reading, and learn as well through the expedited methods of online searches. Much faster than the old days of ordering books through a library and waiting for hard copies like the old days. I do not watch television, am not influenced through mass media whatsoever, (in fact, don't even have cable...only use internet and landline phone services), and being near impossible to get on the cell phone for more than literally a mere few minutes. The picture you seem to have envisioned of me as an intellect (or lack of, I can't read minds so...) is quite the opposite I feel. I went through school 7 years ahead in reading, and am gifted in and quite comfortable in public speaking and teaching. I read and research things of interest feverishly en mass when piqued to do so. Nothing I say/respond with is a knee-jerk reply ever... I have reading comprehension (tested too, not self-proclaimed) in critical, interpretive, and creative arenas on par with any College graduate. I would LOVE to be able to use empirical science to debate with, proofs through observations (thus the video evidence that can be seen with your own eyes I love so dearly), reproducible experimentations, etc...but it is all but outright been killed in today's world dominated by "theoretical scientists" and "consensus science" at the helm that I am up against. Relativity, Quantum, Heliocentric, Evolution, and on and on it is all argued from theory and is still to this day called such through a lack of in spite of in some instances centuries of lack of any evidence to be proven and be removed from the title of "theory". Einstein, Hawking, Sagan, Krauss, Dawkins, Gould, and on and on there as well...ALL theoretical scientists! And we have built a science "Empire" on theory alone today. I can't fight that monstrous overwhelmingly funded institution of consensus science with debate verbally, so resort to 'You have to show them with their own eyes...or they will never believe it" methods. Like all the video evidence I posted. So it would be the same as asking you to come to speak alone in a colosseum filled with "flat earthers" to debate from the standpoint of "accepted spherical earth" evidence all alone with no support other than your own wits and memory. The same exact scenario in reverse. Not a comforting thought is it? The taunt to debate in that methodology is not really an offer to debate...but more an offer to smear with overwhelming odds stacked against me. No one will leave their own comfort zone...so I am never truly given an opportunity to duel on an even playing field. Only offers to go at it in a place where opposition feels comfortable the deck is stacked in their favor. If the odds aren't stacked for them to feel they are safe to be able to win, they won't even accept in layman's terms. Consensus science is literally a religion unto iteslf...no proof is actually truly being offered and therefore must be accepted on faith. Today's world is dominated by consensus science...so is the spherical heliocentric model hypothesis I am standing in opposition to. I feel this will go on endlessly with no relief. I appreciate you being one of the very rare ones that didn't come out of the starting gate with calling names and 50+-year-old insults constantly parroted, and hope for and wish you well in life. I will go away now. Thank you for the adult conversational exchanges.
    1
  371. 1
  372.  @MrSirhcsellor  OK then...let's be really frank. Remembering always that YOU sought ME out...I did not approach you. And admittedly you did so at the beginning with a self-proclaimed "chip on your shoulder". Did you really and truly seek me out, on a sight blatantly and quite obviously aimed at ridiculing those who believed in a flat earth, on a channel focused entirely on mocking said believers for genuinely stimulating and possibly enlightening conversations in debate with the real possibility of learning something you weren't aware of when you arrived here? Or was it in truth, the seeming reality more like this as I suspect... Like a group of foul-mouthed jocks, you intentionally gathered at the bus stop where you knew that fellow like-minded bullies would gather to shove, intimidate, and shoot spitballs and insults at the "nerds" as they boarded the bus in an environment they had no option but to run the gauntlet and painfully endure, in of a group of fellows with the same intent and therefore feel safe doing said behavior together where you would be accepted and condoned for such small-minded and pathetic behavior? You try and come across as some genuine intellect bent on enlightenment when in fact to all outward appearances you seem to have come to where you knew it would be safe to just "be a dick" to those who think differently than you do with crowds of others you could count on to goad you along and join in your jeers and name-calling? I feel maybe whether you would like to do any admitting to this or not, a bit of self-reflection may be in order. Your behavior and attitude are becoming increasingly hypocritical as this conversation advances. I think I will end this here completely. You of course cannot be stopped from replying...but it will initiate no further responses from me. Good luck in life...
    1
  373.  @MrSirhcsellor  It is ALL in the text/links now permanently recorded...the world will be the judge now. Words VS visual proof...nothing more is needed. I hope you fare well as you expect to do so in the end...this is for the uninvolved observer to judge now. Thank you for the seemingly endless dependable continued exposure...you have all proven so predictably faithful to your causes. Scan back over more than 2 months of chat for the photocopy usage by me of your side's rhetoric and unwavering addiction to verbal combat. You all can't even holster your anger long enough to notice you are being used...again read back over months of posts...it is ALL there to read for anyone as proof. Like a good car crash...no one can pass it up without slowing down to rubberneck...backpedaling is futile. Grin... : ) Study your opponent's methods and procedures beforehand next time lest you step in the same shit your predecessor steps in and also find yourself unable to scrape it from his boot in a second though's panic... It was all there for more than 2 months of chat strings to study beforehand on this very page and many others besides this one...the art of war baby... the art of war... You got too trigger happy and fell victim to the same exact prodding so many before your arrival had done! You have been soundly played as just another angry argumentive fool...a meager 2% victory is a seed planted and a growth rate that will overwhelm your side's B.S in the end. You do understand what that means don't you? I am certain you will continue to respond...you all can't resist being told not to...your playbook is more evident than you realize..I will wait once again with eager anticipation for your next reply...it will kill you to not do so...you are all so transparent. Do your homework next time before making such foolhardy assumptions in the future...you bombed badly. Don't tell me you did otherwise...let's just wait on outside support to arrive. THAT will be the real proof...your words are as mentioned nothing more than hollow echo chambering of parroted rhetoric. Good luck yet once again...now this get's really rich!
    1
  374. 1
  375. 1
  376. 1
  377. 1
  378. 1
  379. 1
  380. 1
  381. 1
  382. 1
  383. 1
  384.  @brakkor1081  Here...loof for yourself at what is actually up there in the sky, deliberately set aside several hours to watch a sunset with good binoculars or a telescope and see it never actually goes "down" for starters. Then when you see that truth come back, there is everything you need to see right there already you just have to do it yourself and quit taking others' word for what things are...go learn yourself! ...the world is trying to tell you through your own eyes what is there but you all keep taking anothers' suggestion about what you are looking at. What does all this look like to you? Does it even resemble what they told you it is? You never went to space and saw the sun as they described ever and never can or will. So you HAVE to take their word on faith with no evidence. They told us the sun sets by going behind spherical earth blocking our view from it till it comes back around the other side of the ball. What does it look like to you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPj6YuQKWFE&list=PLlcRHdOM-oJjS5TdG1aXNxuQv7NPA-wYS&index=48 And they say the sun is massive and millions of miles away yet for decades we have been taking pictures and filming the sun and the moon in front of clouds close to the earth and NOT far away. Why do we never speak up? We can see the truth ourselves...but we're too busy being afraid to stand away from the common beliefs systems. The "Emporer's New Clothes" play in real life! YOU really don't KNOW anything...you have to trust in what THEY told you is the truth is really the truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_iojuVw-5Y&list=PLlcRHdOM-oJjS5TdG1aXNxuQv7NPA-wYS&index=3&t=74s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG8569XwdCI&list=PLlcRHdOM-oJjS5TdG1aXNxuQv7NPA-wYS&index=38&t=117s This is a very tiny step in the direction of learning the truth about what our world and life here really are. Sorry to burst your bubble of deception but you have definitely been lied to and I am only trying to show that. By balking at what you can see with your own eyes here is foolish. Watch all these then come back and let's see what you think about it all?
    1
  385. Take manners, pomp, and all the theatrical circus-like circumstances that media makes everything into staging every syllable of every word for profit/more sellable, and then watch closer. An old world-encompassing regime has been taken down more than just here in this footage of this particular nation's political arena. You will not have anything that resembles this world next year on this same date. This is only one instance being made to appear somehow isolated from the world stage but it is tied directly to it, to Britain's revolving leadership, to the glaringly evident collapse of the UN/WHO/CDC/ETC., "World Bank" level banks, Media imploding, Biden in office, so on, so forth. Not until a later time will detail be known I am sure, but there is likely some very serious accounting for some more than nefarious activities probably due from this leader. The most loved are about to be proven among some of the evilest... hearts will break over these. Great and painful change is here...get ready. Wherever you live on earth, stop watching all your local news...seriously. It is intentionally commercially "groomed" for your expected audience region. They try and run the world off of demographics, using all the data you freely puke into the atmosphere through your phones and internet app selections on your PC. No Neilson Rating mailers really come any longer cause they just track you on ALL your internet interactions (ALL of them from cell-phone, to work PC, to the smart fridge) but anyway! The morning news traffic routes they show you from your local coverage...those traffic speed maps telling you the best way to work Monday morning are generated from everyone's GPS locators on phones! Start searching ALL nations' news sources and also stop going into the large commercialized corporate news and look for popular small timers usually locals, giving live from their actual street views of national events. If you wanna know/see with clearer eyes, then open them and stop using the tiny narrow local slits of information they tailor for you. Your local news keeps you also thinking in a particular political way as well and also does it through the heavily filtered and sorted local outlets. If bad guys financially backed to get your local scum in an office in the last election, do you think they'll let the local paper destroy them? Nope! They will make you love them if they can...think peeps and never be led again. Start closing your mouth, putting your hand out, and demanding that real information via links/sources/backed up with reality, news is put into your hand and you are allowed to sort through it yourself before believing anything anyone says in an OPINION EDITORIAL and just opening your mouth after hearing it, blindly believe it, and repeat it to others! Good luck all, and stay strong!
    1
  386. 1
  387. 1
  388. 1
  389. 1
  390. 1
  391. 1
  392. 1
  393. 1
  394. 1
  395. 1
  396. 1
  397. 1
  398. 1
  399. 1
  400. 1
  401. 1
  402. 1
  403. 1
  404. 1
  405. 1
  406. 1
  407. 1
  408. 1
  409. 1
  410. 1
  411. 1
  412. 1
  413. 1
  414. 1
  415. 1
  416. 1
  417. 1
  418. 1
  419. 1
  420. 1
  421. 1
  422. 1
  423. 1
  424. 1
  425. 1
  426. 1
  427. 1
  428. 1
  429. 1
  430. 1
  431. 1
  432. 1
  433. 1
  434. 1
  435. 1
  436. 1
  437. 1
  438. Trolls' reaction to science and common sense is far more entertaining though! Here...react to this.... I will attach a picture even for more clarity. https://i.stack.imgur.com/ge9sN.png Now, these are the terms we will use (listed/outlined on the diagram) so as to completely comply with "known sciences of air flight" and the terminology actually used by pilots all over the earth, so you cannot say I am saying something/referencing something incorrectly. Now when you take off in an aircraft from the flat level ground, and you want to gain altitude after becoming airborne, you have absolutely no other option but to adjust the "pitch" of the craft so as to point the nose of the craft at an angle to whatever desired degree/angle/speed you wish until the craft reached whatever desired altitude ( altitude representing the distance measured from the craft to the flat, level, ground in whatever measured unbit you use/speak in) to achieve this result...physics mandates it. Now when you reach said altitude, you will have to readjust the pitch of the plane to bring the fuselage to a level orientation (would be measured at 0 degrees pitch or completely level in relation to the flat surface of the earth...following me? Don't say no or you have got to be extremely stupid...) Now once you are flying along at the desired altitude, and your craft has leveled off and is now maintaining altitude only..as in NOT climbing/gaining altitude, OR descending/losing altitude...you cannot maintain 0 degrees pitch in cruising altitude flight and stay at that same altitude continuously, and the altitude makes no difference whether 10,000 ft or 10 ft. So as the supposedly "known/measured/calculatable curvature" of a global earth model would mandate according to..."science"...the continually curving earth surface would soon start to descend/drop/curve downward before you and quite noticeably (as the curve calculates to something like 8" per mile of drop over distance in any direction on this ball/sphere) in your direction of flight no matter where on earth you flew. You would reach a point where you were slowly gaining altitude and thus "climbing out of the atmosphere and proceeding into space" as a result of the ground "falling away" in angle before your direction of flight. Physics mandates without argument that as that occurred you would be forced to adjust the pitch of the craft at a downward attitude (point the nose down or descend/lose altitude to maintain 10k ft or whatever altitude you flew) or you would WIND UP LEAVING THE EARTH AND ENTERING THE OUTER ATMOSPHERE SLOWLY ASCENDING CONTINUALLY UPWARD INTO SPACE. You absolutely cannot circumvent a sphere or globe of any size in any direction whatsoever in any type of aircraft without using a curved flight path in relation to maintaining a constant altitude over thousands of linear miles in distance as you traverse the surface of the earth. Now, where is that wrong? How does that inarguable representation of physics in play make me the idiot and you smart? Now you look stupid believing in a globe when you really think about it don't you? Welcome to reality!!!!
    1
  439. 1
  440. 1
  441. 1
  442. 1
  443. 1
  444. 1
  445. 1
  446. 1
  447. 1
  448. 1
  449. 1
  450. 1
  451. 1
  452. 1
  453. 1
  454. 1
  455.  @mdo  Yes and that was my point entirely...on earth, BOTH vehicles definitely ARE subject to exactly the same rules...but you missed where this was going completely. I absolutely understand how both vehicles work, and that isn't the thought train here, your reply proves you never even understood what was being asked...ever in all of this. My point was making someone think about the answer everyone just repeats that NASA hands them reflexively without thinking...because what they say rockets do and what planes do ARE under the same laws of physics entirely! And potential energy and kinetic energy have nothing to do with it at all when I clearly was talking about SOMETHING ELSE... Ready? I am gonna repeat it for the gazillionth time here so follow along this time... I AM AND ALWAYS WAS ASKING ABOUT THE PITCH ORIENTATION OF AN AIRCRAFT...ANY AIRCRAFT BE IT ROCKET, MISSLE, PLANE, OR JET, IN RELATION TO THE HORIZON WHEN TRAVELING ALONG THE SURFACE OF A SPHERICAL SHAPED OBJECT. VS LEAVING THE SAME OBJECT AND TRAVELING THROUGH THE ATMOSPHERE AWAY FROM IT. IT WAS A QUESTION LEADING INTO ANOTHER QUESTION, YOU PULLED THE TRIGGER ON BOTH BARRELS ON THIS NE SO NEVER GOT PAST IT. YOU GOT BOGGED DOWN IN BEING ANGRY SO TUCK YOURSELF AND YOUR BRAIN IN THE MUD BOG OF EMOTION AND FORFEITED REASON ENTIRELY IN THE PROCESS. You don't wanna think or be made to see any opportunity at all to learn something... you're too scared that everyone on the internet is just trying to make you look dumb (even though that is never my intention) you all dive in that pond head first all on your own with no initiation from me other than proposing a simple question... IT MAKES YOU SOUND & APPEAR EXTREMELY INSECURE... Go grow up and come back when you can use some of the manners they taught us in kindergarten...if a teacher in school asked you a question that challenged you, were you the kid who told them to fuck off cause no one gets to question your beliefs? Cause that is definitely the person you are expressing here...
    1
  456. 1
  457. 1
  458.  @kingmidas5864  The point I was always talking about/aimed at was maybe more simply put as if a car crests the top of a hill, it has no option but to have the front end of the car "point downward" to navigate a curved surface or it becomes airborne...period. Flight physics, gravity, weight to speed ratios, and anything else anyone wants to apply to that scenario is totally irrelevant. To follow the contours of a curved surface the trajectory of whatever vehicles using whatever means of propulsion have no option but to follow a curved surface with a "curved" trajectory and that is locked in immovable fact...period. Now I was trying to get people to realize (leading them into a thought that made them go "Hey, you know what ...that makes sense actually!") that in no way can you ever, ever, ever, trace a curved line with a straight one it is and forever will be impossible. That was the reason for my adherence to referencing the "PITCH" of the craft and not the yaw or roll. I was never arguing the detailed breakdown of the fine points of the physics of flight, etc. No one stops to think that to say a jet because it is designed to fly "IN" the atmosphere and a rocket designed to leave it to have no bearing on that whatsoever but will go to great lengths to try to make it seem as if there are wiggly areas of the laws of physics that apply differently to each one that makes the "spherical model" of earth work with a flight trajectory. I am pointing out that regardless...just like a roller coaster even...if the front does NOT POINT DOWNWARD/FOLLOW A CURVED PATH IT WILL LEAVE THE TRACKS AT THE CREST OF A RISE AND BECOME AIRBORNE. Apply the same to a plane and it eventually becomes space flight and not earthbound. I wanted someone to explain the reasoning they stick to that a plane supposedly does not have to point its nose down as it travels along over thousands of miles of linear-direction and traces the ever falling/declining curvature in front of it during a halfway round-the-world flight. Because to make that work you have to "bend" the laws of physics to make it so while traversing any sphere of any size at all. I get tons of breakdowns of the minute details and everyone misses the objective of the question entirely being overwhelmed with a fear that somehow NOT knowing something would make my questions aimed at making someone look dumb...when in fact my intent is enlightenment. But if I can't get them to think that way/question the logic they will never see it. People have to be shown they never believe what they are told. Therefore now with that explained I wanted them to realize the error in thought that a plane and a rocket BOTH would HAVE TO adjust pitch to make them leave the atmosphere and both would also have to perform the same if you flew either around a sphere...rockets also would have no option but to constantly adjust the trajectory to follow a curved surface with a curved flight path...period. So...if you take a car, and make a straight ramp that went upward at a 45-degree angle literally long enough that it eventually leaves the earth atmosphere and enters space...it is exactly the same thing as a planes flight path...in that it if it remained at a constant non-adjusting flight path of that consistent angle...it would be ejected into space at the end of that ramp. The only way t make a ruler trace the surface of a beach ball would be to "bend" the ruler along the balls' radius and nothing else works at all. It matters not whether a rocket, a plane, or a wheeled vehicle...it always was, still is, and forever will be absolutely impossible to trace a curved surface with a straight line...period. Now in that thought train, it really throws a wrench into the spherical model and that is what the question was based on...asking any pilot what angle of flight they train them to keep a plane adjusted to for a transcontinental flight going half way round the world and that would be a very common and extremely well-known fact in the world of pilots...and there is no such thing. I know that...I wanted them to realize it. When one sits back and genuinely examines the spherical model concept...MUCH doesn't really add up, does it? And not in an insulting way I say this but I assure you your brain right now is twisting around and squirming to explain this in your own head. THAT was the objective...that twisting and struggling to explain it...and my ultimate goal. Not arguing the ways different vehicles fly, that is totally out of context concerning the talk I was in the middle of.
    1
  459. 1
  460. 1
  461. 1
  462. 1
  463. 1
  464. 1
  465. 1
  466. 1
  467. 1
  468. 1
  469. 1
  470. 1
  471. 1
  472. 1
  473. 1
  474. 1
  475. 1
  476. 1
  477. 1
  478. 1
  479. 1
  480. 1
  481. 1
  482. 1
  483. 1
  484. 1
  485. 1
  486. 1
  487. 1
  488. 1
  489. 1
  490. 1
  491. 1
  492. 1
  493. 1
  494. 1
  495. 1
  496. 1
  497. 1
  498. 1
  499. 1
  500. 1
  501. 1
  502. 1
  503. 1
  504. 1
  505. 1
  506. 1
  507. 1
  508. 1
  509. 1
  510. 1
  511. 1
  512. 1
  513. 1
  514. 1
  515. 1
  516. 1
  517. 1
  518. 1
  519. 1
  520. 1
  521. 1
  522. 1
  523. 1
  524. 1
  525. 1
  526. 1
  527. 1
  528. 1
  529. 1
  530. 1
  531. 1
  532. 1
  533. 1
  534. 1
  535. 1
  536. 1
  537. 1
  538. 1
  539. 1
  540. 1
  541. 1
  542. 1
  543. 1
  544. 1
  545. 1
  546. 1
  547. 1
  548. 1
  549. 1
  550. 1
  551. 1
  552. 1
  553. 1
  554. 1
  555. 1
  556. 1
  557. 1
  558. 1
  559. 1
  560. 1
  561. 1
  562. 1
  563. 1
  564. 1
  565. I see the whole thing well, it does make sense. Think of it like running a herd of cattle into a gate but at that gate there is what's called a cattle guard. The road is not solid and wider than they can jump in distance and has grating or bars spaced just wide enough for a livestock's feet and legs to go through so it is a strong deterrent for them to stay on one side of it. This looks exactly like a loading gate pen/yard if you will, a place where you redirect a herd of stock toward a narrower and more crowded opening that allows tighter management of direction/speed/etc. by either fences or riders on horses, and this small kill box is a cattle guard. The entire herd would press from behind forcing many to destroy their feet and leg bones immediately rendering them completely helpless. Now imagine hundreds of panicked wild livestock (I imagine elk) with badly broken legs floundering around just trying to stand up on those rocks with broken legs, much less resist the push of the rest of the herd that is blind to this spot since it is just barely out of sight over the rise until you peak that "saddle" and it's too late. This is a genius arrangement and would indeed likely work with elk and any other herding grazing animals. In fact, due to its location and arrangement, I would not doubt it was specifically an elk herd hunting tool. Buffalo may occasionally wander that high in hot summers so seems a lot of work for infrequent use. But the elk would indeed be frequent routine visitors crossing well-established migration trails back and forth as the year went on each season right in that specific type of terrain and altitude and can have absolutely enormous herds. I'd even almost bet if you did a bit of research you may find a nearby known and recorded by the wildlife agencies of an elk migration route. This just screams of elk due to its altitude and location with all the grazing in it. It would draw them there for the grasses.
    1
  566. 1
  567. 1
  568. 1
  569. 1
  570. 1
  571. 1
  572. 1
  573. 1
  574. 1
  575. 1
  576. 1
  577. 1
  578. 1
  579. 1
  580. 1
  581. 1
  582. 1
  583. 1
  584. 1
  585. 1
  586. 1
  587. 1
  588. 1
  589. 1
  590. 1
  591. 1
  592. 1
  593. 1
  594. 1
  595. 1
  596. 1
  597. 1
  598. 1
  599. 1
  600. 1
  601. 1
  602. 1
  603. 1
  604. 1
  605. 1
  606. 1
  607. 1
  608. 1
  609. 1
  610. 1
  611. 1
  612. 1
  613. 1
  614. 1
  615. 1
  616. 1
  617. 1
  618. 1
  619. 1
  620.  @drlogic4535  You are very overflowingly pride-filled with yourself, aren't you? You are so great and important, such a grandmaster of all you survey in your fantasized human audience that you are ...really absolutely entirely and completely unknown to the world outside of your own mind. You are very great indeed, to yourself... Do the invoked attendees in your mind's audience cheer for you when you speak? The small-minded that pursue belittling others in an imagined elevation of their fantasized superiority over another through shameless self-promotion is the perpetual enemy of the sharing of any new information and progress of man in understanding his world better. Those like yourself who think they are done learning from anyone else outside of themselves are indeed precisely that and nothing more. I have nothing for you, even the entertainment of conversation as you cannot put anything else into a cup that is already full, your pride runneth over. It is a very safe and easy path to pursue the deliberate humiliation of another anonymously over a distance when not standing right in front of them. These completely false braveries are in great abundance on the current social exchanges of today's internet. Hypocrisy is an all-consuming beast that feeds on those who imagine they have it bridled and cannot be maintained otherwise. It is a dangerous beast to ride through life on. It always seems to seek higher and higher elevations but tricks the rider into thinking it has lofted them into the greatest peaks of superiority and status, yet it is actually in pursuit of the highest peak to leap from to its own death into the bottomless dark valley of pride. Good luck with yourself...as there is apparently no room for anyone else there with you in your head.
    1
  621. 1
  622.  @drlogic4535  What fake video? And the proof that anything I would post is fake? I can absolutely prove NASA videos are entirely made up of CGI whether a picture or a video. They even inform you themselves of that...but no one either reads that or wants to. We have a vast army of parrots that are using responses programmed for more than a generation before they were even born, just reflexively vomited without any thought behind them and through nothing more than conditioning. I actually did spend more than a year looking into all this "proof" of a spherical planet we supposedly live on, and that is how I arrived at my position on this topic. One of the biggest clinchers for me was my brother in law who is in fact a licensed pilot and patents for manned aircraft. Pilots WILL tell you they are trained to fly in relation to the HORIZON (the very word itself indicative of the truth) "over a flat earth" and not a spherically curved surface, and said craft patented for flying over " a flat and stationary earth". GPS wouldn't even be able to function on a constantly rotating sphere... But even with our very own eyes! We say standing on a coastline looking out over the vast expanse of the ocean and claim we see a craft "descend" over a curved surface that falls away in the distance. But then never wrap our heads around the fact that you can very much further to the left and right than we can at an object going away from us...and there still is NO curve. No one seems to understand at all what visual perspective is and a vanishing point is either. According to that logic a fence row a mile long "descends below the horizon in the distance"so sets just like the sun. Find an encyclopedia set made before 1958 and you can even read the specific measured angle that the firmament rises up toward the center at...actually physically observed and measured. That all disappeared from texts when the Antarctic Treaty was formed. I don't do simple two word "fuck you" responses...
    1
  623. 1
  624.  @drlogic4535  Me? Open my mind? Really???? For starters, the damning phrase "paid to" is included in the suggestion and that is always the most prominent reason to DISBELEIVE things. And you do know where the title "conspiracy theory" came from don't you? I know...exactly....and why it was coined as well. And to top it all off you scoff at 'fake YouTube videos" and then direct me to another YouTube video! What kind of idiot do you take me for? This platform is used by me so often for the fact that there is so much publicly accessible video viewing available to be used and not have to go film or record things myself...and it is all free! I dropped out of public propaganda institutions at 17 when teachers become insufferably boring and the curriculum objective became ridiculously transparent, I under my real name am on record as testing at literal, inferential & evaluative reading comprehension levels on par with college graduates and so am extremely capable of understanding "exactly" what I am reading. And at the prodding of my Grandfather ret. 1963 Sr. Cheif USN (who was the one responsible for my reading levels to be 7 yrs advanced through grade school) I tested well into the genius range in an IQ test at 16 though I place the slightest value on them for a factor to determine the intelligence levels of any individual. The suggestions you make won't work for me, I came to here where we are now in this conversation from those same places you are trying to initiate me to visit again and overcame them through some investigative research on my own, or I would not be here in the first place going over all this with you here now. I do not need a paid propagandist to tell me what my eyes are looking at, my brain has done a brilliant job of that on its own for the entirety of my life. School was insanely boring and torturous when you could for the most part accurately not only predict the thought train of the teaching staff but also the textbooks are designed to be read by the learned and absorbed unassisted for those types so the teachers were only there for the ones that stumble and struggle, that was never me. So I would just do the whole year's reading in the first couple of weeks in every book they issued and then spend my time staring at the wall bored out of my skull or browsing in the library for books to request on topics of my own personal interest. The suggested material only works on the fooled <--(yes I meant that as an adjective and not a noun) that remain... I wonder if he can explain how they get the entire US Patent office to go along with the "conspiracy theorist" by including the words "flying over a flat and stationary earth" in there like that? Also why pilots themselves will tell you that they are trained in flight school which is required for licensing to fly over flat earth? I know the answer to both of those and nothing he said would change that. And as well being in small craft myself having even done stick time in one so have on many flights looked out upon that loverly flat plane at altitude up there and not through the distorting fisheye windows on commercial flights. I fully well know not only where satellites "hover" and how they work I also know who the largest single consumer of helium is. I know how GPS works via satellites "below" the so-called newly named "Van Allen" belt as well as the old name for that elevation barrier. Polaris gives that whole secret away, and it cannot be erased, changed, or explained away...because once again I can see it with my own eyes and the space model really falls apart just by looking up at night. The sun never rises or sets but merely goes out of and then back into range of our eye's capability to see it, and I know "where" it is and how it is powered. The secret for that is at the center...the ever hidden "pole"! Rainbows take on the shape of their prism, once again using simple eyesight to debunk through elementary school level experiments at home so water the droplets refraction is debunked for me please don't go there. You with this push to go look at paid propaganda has everything about it screaming "troll" or information suppression measures via propaganda actually. The narrative has been broken, we passed a threshold in 2012, and ever since then the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction and the enlightenment has begun. These minuscule topics I lightly touched on here are a very slim slice off the top of what I have learned and they don't even begin to make a man's head swim like the whole picture. I learned much on my own initiative through investigation, and these things if any would be the things I could get banned from this platform for knowing and sharing so I start out on the very shallow end of the pool...I won't say them outright. And I absolutely know this to be completely true from receiving multiple bans from multiple platforms talking about them...didn't take but about 4 bans to find out "exactly" where the soft spots were at by poking experimentally at the belly on the beast... You make the assumption I feel that I only source for information here? This platform is a tool to show things I don't have to go and film myself and interact in chat for me. Can't unsee/unlearn things...this stage is for the fools that remain. I walked out in the final act and destroyed my marker...seek someone more feeble-minded to try that on and let's not try and harp on that any longer going forward. First and foremost, you need to start back up with a very humbling "Wow, I am so sorry I was so very wrong in insistently accusing you of telling me "fuck you" to begin with and then beginning a public attempt at ridiculing me.
    1
  625. 1
  626. 1
  627. 1
  628. 1
  629. 1
  630. 1
  631. 1
  632. 1
  633. 1
  634. 1
  635. 1
  636. 1
  637. 1
  638. 1
  639. 1
  640. 1
  641. 1
  642. 1
  643. 1
  644. 1
  645. 1
  646. 1
  647. 1
  648. 1
  649. 1
  650. 1
  651. 1
  652. 1
  653. 1
  654. 1
  655. 1
  656. 1
  657. 1
  658. 1
  659. 1
  660. 1
  661. 1
  662. 1
  663. 1
  664. 1
  665. 1
  666. 1
  667. 1
  668. 1
  669. 1
  670. 1
  671. 1
  672. 1
  673. 1
  674. 1
  675. 1
  676. 1
  677. 1
  678. 1
  679. 1
  680. 1
  681. 1
  682. 1
  683. 1
  684. 1
  685. 1
  686. 1
  687. 1
  688. 1
  689. ...not as amazed as we are that you guys continually use the actual word "level" when describing a supposed curved surface...seriously. Do "YOU" know what level actually, and scientifically truly means? Hint...it requires things to NOT be curved...you can't "level" a ball...but you can level a board as it is of a "FLAT" surface along one edge that edge is used to determine the relationship of it in comparison to the LEVEL surface of the earth and thus be dubbed..." level"! Do you somehow work in a field that has to set and "level" spherical objects maybe? I'd like to know about it because as of now with nearly thirty years in this country seeing everything under the sun be built...not a damn time once did we ever mean "in relation to the curved surface of the earth" in construction and plans are never drawn that way either. It means the STRAIGHT edge of something is parallel to the FLAT LEVEL ground on earth and that is how things are leveled. The word or words sphere is not even applicable in conversations about being "level"...ask an engineer. 1985 is when I started in industrial construction projects, that averaged a year in length so quite sizable across the lower 48 for decades so don't ask me that question. Or I will respond accordingly to it as it should be responded to after hearing of that work history and then still deciding to shoot back a ridiculous or derogatory comment anyway as if I would/could not understand what level is/means. I have likely forgotten more about leveling things than you will learn...
    1
  690. 1
  691. 1
  692. 1
  693. Full Definition of theory 1 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena the wave theory of light 2a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action her method is based on the theory that all children want to learn b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances —often used in the phrase in theory in theory, we have always advocated freedom for all 3a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation b : an unproved assumption : conjecture c : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject theory of equations 4 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art music theory 5 : abstract thought : speculation 6 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another Sorry...you lied here is the copy-paste right from the dictionary definition. Notice the heavy application of the words ~assumption, speculation, assumption, theorized, theoretical, hypothesis... You need to take some reading comprehension classes son. it does NOT mean the fact it indeed definitely actually does mean a guess, a shot in in the dark, a speculative assumption, nothing more than a fucking so-called "educated geuss"! You are wrong. I started investigating things I questioned in the '9-'s and my first two children were born after I was married and then the internet went public. My first PC experience was a Commodore 64...Goole it if you have never heard of it. I was here doing this before the internet in other words...what's your seasoning and experience delving into the riddles of modern science? I have REALLY been at this for decades...what's your experience time frame here on this topic? Or do you just like all the others here always try and do serious debate recalling only high school science classes and quick Google searches in between grammatically disastrous posts with one or two sentences? The reality is obvious and I know what it is I just want you to say it for everyone else to see...you are in over your head. You a gamer? I get mostly arguments from the kids who think life is whatever the screen puts between their ears. Now that we have established through the truth that indeed it truly is guessing let's move on to the rest that is STILL THEORIES, UNPROVEN SPECULATIONS, GUESSES, ASSUMPTIONS LIKE THE REST OF THEM LABELED AS THEORY STILL TODAY. Let's move on to showing they ARE actually still called theories because...THEY ARE! Germ THEORY... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease Atomic THEORY... https://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Atomic_theory Heliocentric THEORY... https://www.britannica.com/science/heliocentrism Shall I go on? The facts are right...you are not...there is more to post on every single theory I mentioned being indeed just guessed only.
    1
  694. 1
  695. 1
  696.  @InitiateDee  "I" didn't post or say anything of my own inventions or opinions, but YOU did...I posted exactly what the dictionary says and it says what I said it said and NOT what you said it would say...you can't change the now ages-old super well-established definitions, they are what they are. Your lack of experience shines through...thus the mention of mine and my experiences/time at the writer/researcher's helm. After the completion of your public school indoctrination, in the adult world-life on your own (assuming you are over 18 but I feel that might be a stretch) have you ever once sat down, and out of your own genuine curiosity, actually read like 800-12,00 pages of research material and publications, watched dozens of hours researching video footages/actual observations, weeks of hours-long chat sessions talking with others in like-minded individuals in a collective research group, and written or had anything published rooted in that researching? I have...you are a newbie nobody who apparently struggles to comprehend what you read...so your "inexperience and lack of any real verifiable information" you've actually personally looked up/researched is hurting you in active debate yes. You shoot from the hip with every comment, only can say/repeat what others told you, not what you have actually truthfully investigated yourself, and so you flail and fail in a debate like that. I would rather duck out and shut up than keep shoving my foot deeper and deeper down my own throat out of ignorance and bullheadedness trying to outlast truth and fight through on sheer resistance. I will still slay you with the well-known, ages-old, established many times over through genuine scientific method in the days of the real "empirical" scientists before the great deception of the introduction of theoretical sciences that stopped relying on facts called "consensus science". Do some real due diligence and actually investigate the difference between empirical and consensus science. There is a vast difference and that is one relies on proven facts to make a statement, the other replies on making statements that everyone collectively agrees could be the truth. Radically different as one is fact-based, the other is entirely speculative guessing. Today we stopped using empirical science and everything in your life, medicine, science, schools, society, etc. is all built on THEORIES! Project paperclip flipped America. You just can't see that through lack of experience and total absence of any investigative research whatsoever to back any statement you make. You are actually helping me outgun you in this exchange... I used to think just like you...I took every single class I could in science in high school so in my senior year I could only occupy myself with self-interest-oriented reading and research as I had taken every single science elective already and none were left. I "worshipped" science, believed every single thing they told me too as you do...then started digging deeper than my textbooks explained and saw the real world. I was deceived in school and it was clear when I started looking on my own outside of the "approved curriculum". You are still in your infancy with this and it shows...sorry it is true. You are putting stuff nearly verbatim at times with what is in the mainstream literature access materials. Do you even really know where to find actual honest real scientific literature? And when/if you do, as you click the first few links provide on a topic...you firmly believe every bit of it on the public mainstream internet is the truth? You don't believe for one second you have been deceived or lied to about anything ever anywhere in the history of your life by your "powers that be"? If you do..then YOU are indeed the fool in the mix and as mentioned...a used car salesman's wet dream! You'll believe ANYTHING I put on a screen and just because the government put it out you think it is the gospel truth! Your kind is the reason the sucky things about life in the world we have to deal with suck so much. The continual reproduction and power breeding of concerted and by design total ignorance! A nation of citizens who never question anything takes anything the government tells them is healthy is actually healthy, pays whatever they tell them to in taxes, thinks that they are always there protecting them and not just protecting the establishment and enforcing control of all knowledge and information...you are a good sheep. Grow a set and start questioning what you read and stop JUST reading it. Ask, inquire, keep learning daily and get your head out of the PC games occasionally. Your view of the world is a screen, you have a screen between your ears.
    1
  697.  @InitiateDee  NO...all you read here is original, all manually produced instantaneously on the spot unless otherwise noted..as all real journalistic intentions do. They back their shit through research and verification and have the links and information routes available to prove the statements. ...they don't just "say shit" like you do. . It does matter and it makes ALL the difference between just talking shit and making a statement you know that you know you can back up and have actual proof to verify it. I am across more than a dozen platforms...I took typing in school to actually learn how to do journalism not chase girls. Sorry if your inability to type out lengthy information-filled responses through my experiences is indeed the big difference between you and your kind and guys like me. You want to cry foul when overwhelmed...keep your candy ass out of the debate arena then little on or grow up and deal with the circumstances. To even continue on and pose the question after reading the detailed extremely specific responses from me to every detail of the questions you asked and then continue on to suggest I am copy pasting for responses? You are such a loser...again you're in over your head and that is not my fault...you approached me. i can't "devolve" myself to lower my responses down to an even playing level with you...you need to go to another arean. I will always debate that way, you know...big-league...you are still doing stickball. You are the lazy ass kind that would vote for universal income and wants money to sit around and not work! Engage your brain and stop thinking that after high school/college you can stop learning. Cause guess what happens? You become the dinosaur of real information at about the time you graduate. EVERY single textbook is at least a decade out of date no matter when printed. You can't make a discovery, then print it in books, train professors, educate teachers, and spread it in the curriculum for at least five years if seriously pushed even. I keep "up to date" several times weekly so I am not just using my prior research to debate with...I correct and adjust even with what is learned every week in the world! If you graduated high school in 2000...the information you graduated with was current realistically about roughly 1980. Good Will Hunting was a real story. Don't bore me with the details the movie changed for productive effect...the story is true. The requirement of an education from a standardized system is such a load of shit! And we now truly know that it is indeed actually a "load of total shit"...just watch the news this evening and pay attention to details. You are going to continually fail unless you do something different here...please stop or change attacks? this is becoming boring. I have four other platforms open as well at the same time I am conversing with you so I am only gonna dedicate time to the ones worthy. This debate is sinking quickly...your floundering. Pick up the pace, get REAL with this, or move on.
    1
  698.  @InitiateDee  It was a very old debate chat stream (over 1yr old now this specific one) before you ever wandered in and opened your mouth here. You approached me, remember? You were cruising really old postings on topics you thought you'd find good social media victims on and you wanted to search for guys to take jabs at for laughs in the old-ass chat streams just trolling along tween Roblox games to try and get a jolt at another's expense. You then came at me, but unexpectedly got your ass handed back to you...and that's what actually just happened here. Look kid...this shit is old as hell...this stream you jumped into itself is over a year old and one of MANY I have been looped into since the year this video was released. I am ALL over YouTube in debates, many other video platforms also...it's what I do here. This specific place is a cesspool of intentionally promoted ignorance and you are a prime example of one of the victims of that program's success! So if you actually are about stamping out bad information, showing up the ones spreading this misinformation, and making truth and reality actually prevail...what the living fuck are you in an old ass video post in a chat stream buried WAAAAY back in the mega-tsunami of streams beneath it over two years old now in this since it came out? Answer...you're a fucking spineless little troll who really has no fucking idea what he's talking about. You came here thinking you were gonna cruise for a guy to poke and thought he'd be a dumbass ignorant fuck, and after you trolled him...it blew the fuck up in your face and you shitting your pants now. This is NOT what you expected and you freaking out now. Fuck off kid...stay the fuck out of my conversations if you're gonna be such a pussy. You need to find another troll objective...this one's eating your lunch already!
    1
  699. 1
  700. 1
  701.  @handyscenario178  there is indeed one you're living right in the middle of it I can tell by the way you explain yourself. Hey why don't you shut me up and prove something to me for everyone to see me being shamed with. I love you the same challenge everyone has copious loads of words and phrases they want to vomit but have still yet to post a single piece of evidence at all. Think you're up to the challenge? I leave The gauntlet at your feet I have served and now I leave it up to you to return the serve post something I am daring you and calling you out probably in front of everybody who could read this. Not words post something real, talk proves nothing. When you post real physical evidence or verification of such evidence that other people can go out and also witness in the same fashion then you're posting proof. I'll even wage your money on it that you can't post a single small piece of evidence that the world is a sphere floating in space... I'll wait here for your certain failure as well just as they all have. You idiots keep mistaking this as a competition about who can ask a question the other one cannot answer thus seeming to make the other one a Victor and some argument. I'm not having an argument I'm showing you what's really there if you don't like what's really there go change the world I didn't make it that way God did you idiot. You can look at the sun yourself and actually see clouds behind it how in the hell if it's millions of miles away and thousands and thousands of times larger than the earth is that possible? In short is it's not possible because there it is you can look at it with your own eyes and a good camera yourself and you can't argue with that or deny it no matter what you try to talk about. So quit being a mouthy little bitch and put some evidence up I'm daring you you chicken shit... When you cannot post evidence I'm going to call you names and ridicule you in response and it's not me winning over you it's truth winning over bullshit. If you want to eat it pack your mind with it and spend the rest of your life walking around with the television between your ears you're welcome to it but I'm not that ignorant or gullible I actually went and looked for myself to see what was out there and didn't just take their word for it. Fool's like you will believe anything they push down your throat deep enough even when it's gagging you in your eyes or watering you still won't come up off of it because all of your friends are doing it too and you don't want to look stupid by being different. You guys are such weak pussies. Put up or shut up punk if you haven't evidence just go away you're completely irrelevant in this conversation and your conversation winds up being equivalent to a fly buzzing around annoying you with no real effect
    1
  702. 1
  703. 1
  704. 1
  705. 1
  706. 1
  707. 1
  708. 1
  709. 1
  710. 1
  711. 1
  712. Here...for the exceptionally thick...here is some real science, physics, and good old-fashioned logic!!! Stick this in your globe and smoke it! I will attach a picture even for more clarity. https://i.stack.imgur.com/ge9sN.png Now, these are the terms we will use (listed/outlined on the diagram) so as to completely comply with "known sciences of air flight" and the terminology actually used by pilots all over the earth, so you cannot say I am saying something/referencing something incorrectly. Now when you take off in an aircraft from the flat level ground, and you want to gain altitude after becoming airborne, you have absolutely no other option but to adjust the "pitch" of the craft so as to point the nose of the craft at an angle to whatever desired degree/angle/speed you wish until the craft reached whatever desired altitude ( altitude representing the distance measured from the craft to the flat, level, ground in whatever measured unbit you use/speak in) to achieve this result...physics mandates it. Now when you reach said altitude, you will have to readjust the pitch of the plane to bring the fuselage to a level orientation (would be measured at 0 degrees pitch or completely level in relation to the flat surface of the earth...following me? Don't say no or you have got to be extremely stupid...) Now once you are flying along at the desired altitude, and your craft has leveled off and is now maintaining altitude only..as in NOT climbing/gaining altitude, OR descending/losing altitude...you cannot maintain 0 degrees pitch in cruising altitude flight and stay at that same altitude continuously, and the altitude makes no difference whether 10,000 ft or 10 ft. So as the supposedly "known/measured/calculatable curvature" of a global earth model would mandate according to..."science"...the continually curving earth surface would soon start to descend/drop/curve downward before you and quite noticeably (as the curve calculates to something like 8" per mile of drop over distance in any direction on a ball/sphere) in your direction of flight no matter where on earth you flew. You would reach a point where you were slowly gaining altitude and thus "climbing out of the atmosphere and proceeding into space" as a result of the ground "falling away" in angle before your direction of flight. Physics mandates without argument that as that occurred you would be forced to adjust the pitch of the craft at a downward attitude (point the nose down or descend/lose altitude to maintain 10k ft or whatever altitude you flew) or you would WIND UP LEAVING THE EARTH AND ENTERING THE OUTER ATMOSPHERE SLOWLY ASCENDING CONTINUALLY UPWARD INTO SPACE. You absolutely cannot circumvent a sphere or globe of any size in any direction whatsoever in any type of aircraft without using a curved flight path in relation to maintaining a constant altitude over thousands of linear miles in distance as you traverse the surface of the earth. Now, where is that wrong? How does that inarguable representation of physics in play make me the idiot and you smart? Now you look stupid believing in a globe when you really think about it don't you? Welcome to reality!!!!
    1
  713. 1
  714. 1
  715.  @MrSirhcsellor  The exact measurement is totally irrelevant in the observation...completely. If you fly around the whole "globe" earth four times... let's say...you absolutely cannot at all do that without ever pointing the nose of the plane downward to match the curved suf=rface of that sphere. And that is absolutely scalable whether the pane is one inch long or ten feet and the sphere is the size of a beach ball or the supposed global earth. So now, show me the error there? A yardstick held horizontally would be a great representation of a horizontally level flight path (meaning ZERO degrees pitch..you know what pitch means right?) Even if you could fly on a sphere the size of Saturn let's say, you still would have no other way to maintain a continually set elevation as you flew around it, except to point the nose in a downward attitude....even if so slight you may not detect it. You physically cannot fly around the globe in a plane and never point the nose down or you will either leave the atmosphere...or take off at 100ft elevation and wind up across the earth thousands of miles away and NOT be thousands of miles higher in elevation where you ended than started. THE LAWS OF COMMONLY KNOWN WORLDWIDE PHYSICS MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE, YOU CANNOT IN ANY WAY OR EXPLANATION FOLLOW A CURBED SURFACE WITH A STRAIGHT LINE! I just asked if anyone knows a pilot (I do, a relative of mine, yeah I asked... he and some of his pilot friends and that was one of the steps that led to my understanding of it) and to ask them...who do they adjust for downward curvature for this problem. It should be the most basic and common knowledge among pilots IF we live on a round ball. You WILL not find a single one...your turn.
    1
  716. 1
  717. 1
  718.  @MrSirhcsellor  the point I'm making is that you cannot fly in a perfectly level angle at zero degrees pitch indefinitely on any sphere of any size at all anywhere in the known physical universe. on a small sphere the pitch of downward attitude you adjust the plane to compensate for the curve of the horizon falling away from you to maintain the same altitude would obviously be greater than pitch you would have to use to adjust around a massive sphere as in the sun. but the size of the sphere or the craft have absolutely no bearing on the fact that you cannot fly over a curved horizon that continually graduates downward in front of you without continually adjusting the attitude of the aircraft you're in to also match that same continual downward angle and thus you cannot fly along any sphere no matter the size in any craft no matter the size and maintain a set altitude continually around that sphere without ever pointing the nose of the aircraft down. That's simple physics cannot be argued with it cannot be changed no matter how you explain it you can't go around a curve with a straight line same concept. Therefore my question was does anybody know a licensed pilot? Because if they do they could ask them how often they have to pitch the playing downward to adjust for the horizon falling away as they travel along in a transcontinental flight whether it be a thousand miles or 6,000 mi is irrelevant the distance doesn't matter you would still have to keep pitching the plane downward as you saw the horizon fall away and downward in front of you and that is a law of physics you cannot traverse a curve in a radius with a straight line
    1
  719. 1
  720. 1
  721.  @Matuse  SLOWLY READ THIS WHOLE THING BEFORE ANSWERING AGAIN, YOU ARENT EVEN ON TOPIC MAN! THE CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT FLIGHT PATHS AND NOT GRAVITY...AT ALL, EVER, NOT ONCE, YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO "MAKE IT" AN ARGUMENT ABOUT GRAVITY!!! WE HAVE IT, IT IS HERE, WE AAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL KNOW THAT!!!!! NO ONE IS SAYING WE DON'T! I ABSOLUTELY NEVER SAID WE DO NOT! SO READ SLOWLY, VERY, VERY, SLOWLY, GOOGLE WORDS THAT GO OVER YOUR HEAD IF NEED BE BUT THIS TIME TAKE IN THE WHOLE CONVERSATION BEFORE FLYING ACROSS THE KEYBOARD ONE SENTENCE INTO IT/TAKING PART OUT OF CONTEXT AND SEE EXACTLY HOW ~STUPID~ YOUR ANSWER LOOKED SAYING THAT IN REPLY TO MY QUESTION WHICH WAS NEVER AT ALL ARGUING PRO/CON GRAVITY!!!!!!!!!!!! READ SLOWLY. THIS TIME, UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT ENTIRELY THERE MR. HALF COCKED! USE A DICTIONARY, CONSULT A FRIEND AND GET BACK TO ME...WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO TO COMPREHEND THIS DEBATE BUT TALK ABOUT ONLY WHAT I AM ASKING...NOT WHAT YOU "THINK" I AM SAYING You guys really struggle with reading comprehension man...it's like never-ending with you all... My personal favorites are the ones that spend two days telling me "what they think " to in a very pissy statement close the conversation with "Well I don't care what you think..." I once again repeat the very same question you yourself can go back and read it, it is ALL over paragraph after many, many paragraphs here...I am not gonna dig it out to compensate for you guys flying right over it and missing it continually will repeat the question, then the applied logic used to resolve the problem, and then back off again and let you stick both feet in your mouth yourself...you all are the best and easiest to do this too! The question was...DOES ANYONE KNOW A PILOT? IF YOU DO ASK THEM WHAT THE KNOWN ANGLE OF PITCH IS THAT AN AIRCRAFT MUST MAINTAIN TO FOLLOW THE CURVATURE OF THE GLOBE AND THUS MAINTAIN A CONSTANT ELEVATION ON A TRANSATLANTIC FLIGHT. Never was any different, over and over I even repeated this. Now here is the logic I repeatedly try to get you all to apply, failing miserably but still I tired ONLY THIS! DRAW A CIRCLE ON A PIECE OF PAPER, AND NEXT TO THAT DRAW A STRAIGHT LINE, NOW IN ANY ORIENTATION, YOU WISH...HOW LONG CAN YOU MAKE THE TWO, A CURVED LINE AND A STRAIGHT LINE RUN PARALLEL TO ONE ANOTHER. A flight path at zero degrees pitch will eventually fly off the earth...even with gravity functioning perfectly. At no instance no matter how hard you all try to "warp" physics to make it fit in your head...curved lines can never make a corner navigatable. For an experiment you can easily do if you have a car is this...try all you want to, but you will never turn a car through a corner in a straight line. You're on! take it away!!!!
    1
  722. 1
  723. 1
  724. 1
  725. 1
  726. 1
  727. 1
  728. 1
  729. 1
  730. 1
  731. @Chandler Burse PS I reproduced very well documented experiments that are over 100 years old they're already recorded in the scientific literature they've already been done in the past and they have been buried and hidden and replaced theories instead of real physical evidence. No one can produce a single shred of evidence that has any real solid proof this Earth is a spherical object floating in space as described by theoretical scientist. No one can get over the word theoretic theoretical and what it means.... Can't change the definition of words and what they meant for hundreds of years to fit a narrative and that's exactly what's been done. Everything about this plane was already figured out by about 1910 and then all the sudden shows up Einstein and all these theoretical scientists and they completely put a real verifiable empirical science into the shadows and I placed it all with ideologies and imaginations and that's all the theories are. Not a single theory has ever been proven so are they still are called theories and not facts because they have failed in some instances for thousands of years as in heliocentrism to ever provide a single shred of evidence. We get flooded with a tsunami of words trying to convince us that this world is in a heliocentric model but there's not a single shred of hardcore real physical evidence in existence. I have called the world out and beg for any of this evidence and every single soul has failed to produce anything outside of insults and name calling. It's now a decades long endeavor I've been at this since the 80s I didn't start this yesterday. There's no proof in existence I'm daring anyone to post it because it doesn't exist tried looking for decades.
    1
  732. 1
  733. 1
  734. 1
  735. 1
  736. 1
  737. 1
  738. 1
  739. 1
  740.  @milkmankarlson3043  Never mind... That also is proovably not true... And had been done so decades before I ever even became involved in the discussions about it. You can't just shoot from the hip like that on things you remember from public school that information was horrifically outdated when you read it out of a textbook and that's also provably true. If you spent one hour in true genuine research with the angle of an investigative reporter trying to discover it and the answer with a non-biased beginning... you'd blow your own mind with what you find. All you're really actually doing right now in real time is repeating things that other people told you sometime back in your history and you really actually have no genuine current up-to-date and thus up to speed information to use in an exchange like this. The things that a teacher dictated to you out of a textbook in a public school system was at the very least 15 years old when you read it. You can't even get an idea, go through the years of rigors it takes to get it verified as fact in the real legitimate scientific community, begin to allow professors to start instructing on that proven science and begin writing new textbooks about it, get them distributed throughout the nation, update all the public school teachers on the new information available, and get it funneled into your head in less than about 15 or 20 years. The stuff you were educated with is verifiably outdated by decades. Real research is going to give you some real information parroting things people told you is not intelligence and is definitely not thinking even remotely. You all put up these staunch fronts of refusal to even listen to an alternative explanation because of the broken record reply of the proof at hand and my lack of proof. The real and true definition of that statement in layman's terms is more like... "Look it's what everybody else has always believed, my parents believed it, my friends believe it, and it's what they taught me in school so it must be true. Has anyone ever actually shown me any proof of what they taught me? Does any actual genuine scientific observation conducted in my lessons for this instruction? Or was I just shown a bunch of pictures, artist renditions, pretty cool CGI, and a whole lot of words written in text in an ocean of books and I believe that on that with faith alone? Really think about what you're standing on as truth and reality... has anyone ever really honestly shown you anything that proved to you all of this you believe? Or are you just following the traditional social norms without questioning anything?
    1
  741. 1
  742. 1
  743. 1
  744. 1
  745. 1
  746. 1
  747. 1
  748. 1
  749. 1
  750. 1
  751. 1
  752. 1
  753. 1
  754. 1
  755. 1
  756. 1
  757. 1
  758. 1
  759. 1
  760. 1
  761. 1
  762. 1
  763. 1
  764. 1
  765. 1
  766. 1
  767. 1
  768. 1
  769. 1
  770. 1
  771. 1
  772. 1
  773. 1
  774. 1
  775. 1
  776. 1
  777. 1
  778. 1
  779. 1
  780. 1
  781. 1
  782. 1
  783. 1
  784. 1
  785. 1
  786. 1
  787. 1
  788. 1
  789. 1
  790. 1
  791. 1
  792. 1
  793. 1
  794. 1
  795. 1
  796. Richard Horton is the editor-in-chief of The Lancet, one of the oldest and most prestigious medical journals in the world. Horton has been serving in this role since 1995. Under his leadership, The Lancet has covered a wide range of medical and public health topics, publishing groundbreaking research and shaping discussions in the field of medicine. Additionally, Horton has been an advocate for global health issues, including efforts to address health disparities and promote access to healthcare worldwide. "The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analysis, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn toward darkness" is from an excerpt from an editorial he authored. It reflects a critical perspective on the state of scientific research and publication practices. In this editorial, Horton suggests that a significant portion of scientific literature may be unreliable due to various issues such as small sample sizes, weak statistical power, biased analysis, conflicts of interest, and a tendency to prioritize trendy topics over rigorous investigation. Note that Horton's viewpoint is not universally accepted and may be seen as controversial by some in the scientific community. However, it does raise important questions about the integrity and reproducibility of scientific research, which are ongoing topics of discussion and concern within the scientific community. Of course, it would be viewed as controversial. When the consensus, which has amassed an unimaginable financial industry founded on its acceptance, conflicts with the reality that is in direct opposition to its narrative, and especially so when provable, it is always considered controversial and attacked outright in a desperate posturing of self-preservation for the sake of profit over truth. Empirical science, and right along with it the facts it once consistently revealed to us, have been destroyed by financial interests built upon a foundation of consensus science.
    1
  797. 1
  798. 1
  799. 1
  800. 1
  801. 1
  802.  @laurentiuvladutmanea  That was a long road to say yeah...that is exactly what I said. Now go further and look up the definitions of these parts as well...you are actually verifying what I said here! This is copy-paste from the definitions above...your post... ~the appearance of new forms : the process by which new species or populations of living things develop from preexisting forms through successive generations~ This EXACTLY says what I said! Evolution is a fish becoming a bird, or a mammal becoming a water-breathing creature, or vise versa...NOT getting adaptions of specialization. There are NO examples ever given for evolution as proof so it still today in all real scientific literature is branded a THEORY for that reason. There has never been proof offered that withstood the rigors of being accepted in real genuine science so it is never is able to be published as anything other than an idea. Your whole world is theoretical! Evolution, Heliocentrism, Germ, Atomic, Gravity, Relativity, Big Bang, Quantum, just for a small handful! ALL your whole life is "unproven speculation" and no matter how many things you post, or words you spout, you cannot ever change that FACT. Investigate the difference between "consensus science" and "empirical science"...we had one for thousands of years then we switched to the other. One was "real" science, and the other is dominated by theoretical ideologies only...no proof behind a single one of them. But they have ALOT of words to talk about them! But no proof so they are all still called THEORIES. Quit being an idiot, this is not about "you being right and me being wrong" so stop talking like a juvenile...it sounds so immature! So, you gonna step up and take a swing at proving evolution and finally showing the world at large how you verified we can remove the word "theory" from all scientific literature surrounding the ideology? This oughta be rich, after generations and immense amounts of money no one else has! Can't wait to see what you "discovered" or "excavated" that proves this "theory" finally as fact! I'll wait here...so show us...
    1
  803. 1
  804. 1
  805. 1
  806. 1
  807. 1
  808. 1
  809. 1
  810.  @laurentiuvladutmanea  You have some interesting "coffee table talk" for evolution but all you have is that. Please post some proof someone came up with showing a transitional being or what we would call a missing link? Because the biggest hurdle evolution ever faced was the lack of any hard evidence...go investigate this theory's history! The big speed bump evolution continually does a face plant over and can't get past IS the total lack of physical evidence, and thus remains labeled a theory in all genuine scientific literature for that exact reason. Go look it up, seriously...stop posting bullshit and go crack open some info on the birth and life of this theory...see with your own eyes that it is genuinely and truly only an ideology with no evidence to back it up as far as solid proof, it always has failed to produce physical evidence to back it, so it still remains a theory after almost 200 years...it failed! It NEVER produced the proof to lose the label of being called a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... It is still only a theory... Seriously...go check and lemme know real quick if the definition of theory has changed since yesterday? Also is evolution still labeled a theory today?
    1
  811. 1
  812. 1
  813. 1
  814. 1
  815. 1
  816. 1
  817. 1
  818. 1
  819. 1
  820. 1
  821. 1
  822. 1
  823. 1
  824. 1
  825. 1
  826. 1
  827. 1
  828.  @laurentiuvladutmanea  Theory is still defined as speculation...you can say speculation in many ways also and every definition still ultimately means "speculation" in the end. Same with the word theory! It matters not which one of the many definitions you apply, it never changes the fact that a theory in laymen's terms will still and forever always mean "Well, we haven't actually seen this ourselves but our best-educated guess is that it probably is this..." so whatever you want to say go for it...but that definition is accurate. Theory is still speculation, and science today is all theoretical...and in NONE of the definitions does it say that a theory is based on hard factual evidence...it all still means making a guess at something whether the guessers have degrees, or not is completely irrelevant in the end, period. Guesses/speculations/ponderings/contemplations/suppositions ALL are very accurate definitions for the word theory and describing what a theory is! And every damned one of those definitions does NOT mean proven facts! Theories are called theories because they lack the substantial evidence required to stop being called a theory and graduated into the literature accordingly. Type evolution into the search bar right now and tell me which results do NOT call it a theory? Every single legit paper you read on evolution, just because the title in the beginning first off tells you this is a theoretical concept, and it truly is indeed and we can see this with our own eyes in the title, being a "theory" by the very nature of a theory...it is not a proven truth with evidence behind it in acceptance with the scientific community so it still bears the title theory! When something is finally proven, it is no longer called a theory...that is how it works whether you like it or not. Ask someone else...don't take my word for it! And until it is ever proven legitimately it forever bears the word "THEORY" in its title! A theory will forever and always be nothing more than a guess! Looking at a fossil fish with unusual fin bone arrangements does not automatically translate into that creature being some mythical transitional being on its way to walking on those fins! Evolution makes absolutely no sense just with the application of logic! You would reach a point where there was a creature who could not breathe air or water full time any longer efficiently and could neither swim like a full-time water creature nor walk like a full-time land creature yet either! Now, this struggling floundering half thing would have to continue like this for generations and generations according to the very theory itself and then finnish its transitioning to a full-time land animal species...now HOW could that creature continue and procreate effectively enough to finish the evolution? It is a VERY stupid idea when you actually think about it with logic! Humans do not come from rocks man...and that is exactly what the theory of evolution sets out to get us to believe ultimately. Gonna say no it doesn't? Yeah, if you follow this "human ancestry tree of evolution" crap...it takes us ultimately back in time to a single-celled animal, and that animal came from what? The "primordial soup" of the virgin oceans, but what made that primordial soup? Rain dissolving minerals from the rocks... If you believe this crap you have to believe humans came from rocks... Anti-human? Man... you're stretching for insults aren't ya! lol, THAT was a really dumb comment and totally off-topic in a big way!
    1
  829. 1
  830. 1
  831. 1
  832. 1
  833. 1
  834. 1
  835. I go to work, I go home, I do not go out to bars or street events, or anywhere things of this nature could effect my very quiet, very normal, very low key American life just as I have always done since leaving home as an adult in the mid 80's before the internet was even made publicly accessible and people only had home phones. And when I do go shopping, or doing my service work with my business there is nothing I do that would/could provoke anyone to take stands against me. My shirts and hats have NOTHING printed on them, there are no stickers on my work or personal vehicle, no white shoe polish #statements on my windows, no political signs or flags in my yard even. I do fly the American flag (moderately sized, nothing gigantic or flamboyant or "attention grabbing" if you will at all) on our home, just like my parents, grandparents, and great grandparents did as well. I served, my father and father in law served, my grandfathers served, and all the way back to my great grandfather who was mustard gassed in WWI in combat. I pay my taxes, I am vigilant in my neighborhood and defend the safety and rights of all around me at the drop of a pin especially children, support law enforcement, and believe the Constitution is a great and timeless document as human rights never "go out of style" and need modified for any generation. My political beliefs are MINE and to keep peace I keep them to myself! Walking around shoving your banners, flags, and movements into my face are nothing short of the actions of a BULLY, so both sides should refrain from it PERIOD! Whoever is in office will always be human, fallible, and flaw filled just like every single person or group that would critique them for every syllable that would come out of their mouth, every physical movement they make, and putting them under a microscope for every single second of their term trying to tear them apart for only political reasons. As the old adage goes, "You can make some of the people happy all the time, and all of the people happy some of the time, but you cannot make EVERYONE happy ALL of the time!" People always will and always do bitch about everything they do not agree with, and everyone feels very hyper-entitled to be heard on every issue at every instance they feel moved to speak out about! But using real logic and common sense, you either have to accept that every want of every individual cannot at all be granted much less even addressed in a nation of hundreds of millions of individuals, or quite literally you're left with no other option than to just buy and go move to a private island where you can declare yourself a sovereign nation and make your own laws up and then recognize only yourself as the one to be heard. To adopt that mindset of "I will be heard and dealt with!" is not only totally irrational, it is childish, selfish, and hypocritical to an extreme as the only way to be dealt with in that manner is to oppress all the same claims of everyone around you to have ONLY your wants and desires addressed. There is an overwhelming attitude of an "elementary school child" tantrum like voicing of issues all over the nation today in these times, and most could use nothing short of a "good spanking" and to be sent to a corner for a time to cool off, and realign their posturing just like a kindergartner before being allowed to come and join with the rest of us again and partake in a "community" like well live in all over the globe. Yes indeed your rights are very important, but not specifically and only YOUR rights, so like adults knuckle down and grow the hell up America. Stop taking stands against one another simply because someone else convinced you that the best policy was to behave like that, and that the solution to all your grievances is to make by force and intimidation assurances that you will be heard "Come Hell or High Water" like some completely absent of discipline toddler throwing screaming fits in public with a rag tag group of like minded idiots. Yes, I DID call them idiots, BOTH sides! You can't win over a bully by being a bigger bully. It only breeds rebellion and separation and why everyone involved is avoidant of saying so is that their intention is exactly that. If you have some burning frustration and hatred of something you do not like, then like a child put into a time out, PRIVATELY go work out or something, maybe hit a punching bag and burn it off, calm down and THEN go back into society and accept that to live here we ALL must bite our lip regularly, understand that we all must share, and get along as a "family" of Americans, or emancipate yourself and find another location to live outside the borders of this country. IT WILL NEVER WORK HERE! We have morphed into a Nation of screaming babies with no intention of "minding" any one, any rules, or sharing in anything. You're extremely embarrassing to say the very least, immoral, irrational, highly hypocritical, and absolutely worth nothing short of being TOTALLY IGNORED. Move along, take your kneeling, your bullhorns screaming mottoes, your signs, and giant banners & marches if you cannot exercise that PEACEFULLY and SHOVE THEM UP YOUR ASSES and go home! Our founding fathers in America argued on Capitol Hill ALL THE TIME.And the arguments were more often extremely heated, very loud and rambunctious, and bordered on all out brawls in many instances. But the difference between now and then was this. In the end they ALL knew they were ALL Americans and had no option but to agree on what was REASONABLE for ALL citizens, best for the Nation AS A WHOLE, and they remained unshakable COMRADES in this very fragile and wonderful institution we call the UNITED States! They shook hands, went home after the gatherings, and began once again to allow what freedoms could be allowed under these circumstances, and accept what COULD NOT be allowed and still keep the Nation knit together as ONE BODY! This is a Nation of individuals indeed, but was never, EVER about you and only you as a single entity, and being granted every whim you were moved to. Signed, "A mature, grown ass, willing to work together to get along PEACEFULLY, American you will NEVER see the face of because doing so would only promote more of this absolute lunacy!". I am praying daily for ALL of you on BOTH sides! We now return you to your currently scheduled chaos... (edited for spelling once)
    1
  836. 1
  837. 1
  838. 1
  839. 1
  840. 1
  841. 1
  842. 1
  843. 1
  844. 1
  845. 1
  846. 1
  847. 1
  848. 1
  849. 1
  850. 1
  851. 1
  852. 1
  853. 1
  854. 1
  855.  @brakkor1081  So, you are so cool, so on top of the world, so in tune with truth and reality, so enlightened as to how the world really works, you need to go to sifting through shit dropping leftovers from a year old chat stream on a video posting over a year old? Really? Then you wanna turn around and make it sound Like I am struggling to be heard? Shouting into the wilderness hoping someone listens? WTF? Really? Did you stop for one second to consider that you are doing that in an old ass outdated chat log? YOU came to a long-ass well-generated conversation SOMEONE ELSE STARTED AND FINISHED OVER A YEAR AGO and cruised for someone to poke at and you found me here...BURIED DEEP in the chat streams so you had to dig and fish around to find it. Your intentions are clear...you are trolling only, you aren't smart, you aren't important, you can't even generate your own conversations so you scab off others' old ass garbage leftover from last year! And you say I am pathetic? man...get a fucking mirror dipshit and take a deep stare into your own eyes... This fucking conversation you jumped into is over a year old dipshit! You are like showing up to debate someone that was on a news program debating LAST YEAR and trying to put up your side of the argument in response! What a fucking total loser! You are a troll scab scavenger and nothing more. You can't even generate a good talk on your own so you cruise through the trash of someone else's posts from last year hunting for some small shit to say thinking it makes you look cool to the online world. You look pretty fucking pathetic I think and so would anyone else reading. I am in THIS YEAR now...have no idea what the fuck you are even doing here! THIS ALL HAPPENED OVER A YEAR AGO...WHY ARE YOU STILL DIGGING THINGS UP FROM THAT FAR BACK...GET ON WITH SOME REAL-LIFE CURRENT SHIT YOU TROLL SCAB! It's not just that you are irrelevant...it's that you keep on going on with this and PROVING it with every statement. You should hang your head and limp your loser ass off to the side before you embarrass yourself further moron. You are like someone who just now today shows up for the presidential debate of the LAST ELECTION. Umm...your dumb-ass talking points are really fucking stupid to bring up as the debate already happened and ended LAST YEAR so no matter what you really have to say you are looking pretty fucking stupid doing it!
    1
  856. 1
  857. 1
  858. 1
  859. 1
  860. 1
  861. 1
  862. 1
  863. 1
  864. 1
  865. 1
  866. 1
  867. 1
  868. 1
  869. 1
  870. 1
  871. 1
  872. 1
  873. 1
  874. 1
  875. 1
  876. 1
  877. 1
  878. 1
  879. 1
  880. 1
  881. 1
  882. 1
  883. 1
  884. 1
  885. 1
  886. 1
  887. 1
  888. 1
  889. 1
  890. 1
  891. 1
  892. 1
  893. 1
  894. 1
  895. 1
  896. 1
  897. 1
  898. 1
  899. 1
  900. 1
  901. 1
  902. 1
  903. 1
  904. 1
  905. 1
  906. 1
  907. 1
  908. 1
  909. 1
  910. 1
  911. 1
  912. 1
  913. 1
  914. 1
  915. 1
  916. 1
  917. 1
  918. 1
  919. 1
  920. 1
  921. 1
  922. 1
  923. 1
  924. 1
  925. 1
  926. 1
  927. 1
  928. 1
  929. 1
  930. 1