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Comments by "Mia Kœnig" (@miaknig3130) on "Christine Chubbuck | Analysis of the First "On Air" Suicide" video.
@FuzzyWalrus123 I actually thought that but didn't want to say it. The grass is always greener; not a having a sex partner doesn't cause problems and having one doesn't make one's problems go away. I don't see women think that way as much as men, but I guess it is a way for all of them to blame others instead of themselves. Can't expect someone to love you if you think you arent worthy. Some people like being alone, and don't find the idea of kids that appealing. Poor woman never tried to see the advantage of being alone.
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@skeevynicks there is nothing wrong with not having an intimate partner or being celibate. It is the angry attitude and blaming others for their "problem" that is what the true issue is. She did not come off like that completely and people did fail her bc she did seek help, but she put a lot of pressure on herself for someone who had a lot going for her. I never said she she did not deserve sympathy and I don't think she was the typical incel who often has ill will towards people who are in relationships. The term incel came from a girl writing a college paper on herself being celibate bc she was busy and had other stuff going on, but she did not think that was what defined her or that it was deleterious to her self-esteem. I'm sad that Chubbuck seemed to think it meant she was less than and that she was so disenchanted and frustrated she decided to end it in a most extreme way.
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@elizabethbennet4791 I realize what you're saying and I actually am very saddened that she did not have support from loved ones or professionals that may have prevented this. The adversity she experienced may have contributed to this, but conversely it is the same type of adversity that others have used to make them stronger. We see someone like Oprah who was faced with similar issues, yet she persevered. Of course it is a combination of things that make one person want to drive harder, while another wants to quit. Compared to many women, myself included, she seemed to have it all. She was pretty, successful, and smart. I see her glass almost completely full, she probably saw it as almost empty. She was undeniably in a lot of pain with no one to turn to and that is tragic.
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@indridcold8433 you might enjoy the book "the stranger in the woods: the story of the last true hermit". It was a good read, and an interesting look at someone who preferred solitude over everything.
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My sister is a stripper who took up knitting w some other dancers, and they called themselves knittin bitches.
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@samm6389 people failed her but I didn't mention that bc I was replying specifically to the incel comment, therefore I kept it mostly about her wanting a partner and her lack of one. Desperate people do desperate shit, and she seemed to be hurting and wanting others to hurt.
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@teijaflink2226 I agree, but I had replied to the person who said "lady incel" and I already explained it to another person. Yes she was technically an incel the way the term was originally coined by the female college student, no she did not blame her problems on men or hate happy appearing couples. Bitter, misogynistic men adopted the term that originally was used to describe someone who was too busy w life to care about relationships. The fact that she killed herself in that manner makes it obvious that she had serious mental health probs. She had a great life, but it wasn't enough in her mind. She knew enough to reach out to a doctor who turned out to be crap and not see the signs or take her seriously.
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@Eternal_11_Sasha I agree. I just saw a story about a severely depressed young lady who became the obsession of Australian magpies. She said that when the magpie brought his son to meet her, the magpies became her reason for waking up each day. I thought she was being hyperbolic and dramatic, but she actually was so depressed that she had bought a house away from everyone to live as a semi recluse. Now she is a wildlife rehabber who interacts w the nearby community and lots of people on social media. I've also volunteered w a teen at a primate sanctuary who she said her mom drove her there as her therapy for extreme bouts of depression. Her weight would drop and her hair would fall out, but a few weeks of hanging w monkeys, filling water bottles, cleaning poop, and cuddling helped dramatically.
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