Comments by "JerseyMikeP" (@JerseyMikeP) on "Throttle House" channel.

  1. You forgot most Olimpic events.
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  2. 27:58 is the reason why the GT500 lost, LOL.
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  3.  @davidlegkodukh6969  "at least they all don't look the same no matter how much money you spend on him"? Same with the camaro...this one just has a wing and canards. The ZL1 Only has a different hood vs. a base/SS camaro. A Wide body Challenger is easy to notice compared to a base or srt392 challenger and the hellcat/redeye/demon also have different hoods, Like the levels of camaros.
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  4.  @davidlegkodukh6969  LOL, They won't notice the Fender flares that stick out but they will notice LEDs on a Camaro on the street. What are you smoking?
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  5. I'd NEVER get a Sunroof... As a Technician it's a Nightmare for issues/problems. Also on the Redeye a Sunroof is a $1,995 option.
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  6. Actually the Camaro SS 1LE. Faster all around and for alot less $$$.
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  7.  @WindyCity1992  Speak " THE TRUTH BROTHER " , All the Fanboys speaking of Ring times... Can't backup Shit. Best Example is The Fat Nismo GTR. Caught By Car & Driver Using Dozen Of Non-Stock Parts for Thier " Production Record Run". If Your Not Quick / Fast Anywhere Else ... Your Fake.
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  8. I'd like to see how much it improves with a "TRACK TIRE" on it. Michelin cup 2,Trofeo R or a set of ACR Viper Kuhmo's... Probably could fit the Viper's Rear 355mm on it;-P
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  9. Sadly in NJ you have to have a front license plate... BUT Most car enthusiats put it on the Passenger side dash, "Like an Inspection sticker" and keep the front end looking good. * Problem solved ;-)
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  10.  @WindyCity1992  I got a free ride to BMW school, one of my teams got placed with me to BMWs Flagship store in Manhattan NYC. My buddy couldn't keep up with the work pace and moved to the USA Headquarters in NJ. I meet him while doing a class on the then x5m and fo1 models. He introduced me to the engineer he worked with. They were servicing Ralph Laren"s F1 LM and he offered a ride. A ride only equalled by the Pro-street cars I work on.
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  11.  @SoulTouchMusic93  The Redeye ONLY comes in an Automatic ... Tremec's strongest manual isn't rated/warrantied for 707 lb-ft of torque. Need a Jerico, Liberty or G-Force race transmission.
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  12.  @abdulsrt7077  Not hard to get... On Tire Rack. They are also alot cheaper than the zl1 1Le gooyears, Michelin cup2 or Trofeo R tires.
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  13. Plus it's the Only 1 that seats more than 2 people... I'd rather take 4 of My Go-Go friends for a ride...Orgy anyone, LOL ;-P
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  14. Only thing missing was the Comparative sheets that the magazines have (MSRP/as tested/ weight/ HP&TQ / performance #s.
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  15. Redeye ONLY comes with the auto as Tremec doesn't make a Manual that is rated/Warrantied for More than 650 ft-lbs. Hellcats are right at the 650TQ rating. Originally the ZL-1 1LE Only came with the manual but for 2019 I just saw that they offer it with the 10spd... but probably not many of them are autos.
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  16. Sadly, there wasn't a DCT available during it's production that could handle the Torque... Only just recently did Tremec Release the Front engine/RWD DCT in the GT500. With the DCT it would be so much quicker and drop the track records to the point that no street legal car < 1,000hp could touch it.
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  17.  @WindyCity1992  It was amazing, but it was nohwere the fastest. The 1989 Callaway Sledgehamner ran 254.76 mph. It held the record beyond any Veyron or Koenigsegg until the record attempt in utah. The bugatti NEVER HELD THE STREET LEGAL PRODUCTION CAR RECORD.
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  18. 18:34 - The Redeye engine... isn't BIGGER... It just makes 147hp More because it's a Dodge and Not a Chevy.
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  19. That "Purple" is called Plum Crazy Purple keeping with it's 1970 retro theme... as it was called that back then. Others are. Sublime - Bright green B5 Blue Sadly this Purple isn't available for 2020 only for 2019 models. They cut the number of optional colors from 14 in 2019 to just 9 for 2020, all the retro colors I mentioned are no-longer available.
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  20.  @Haulass95gt  GT350??? LMFAO.... MSRP for an SS (Which is the 1LE I was talking about) is $44,495 in it's cheapest form... https://www.chevrolet.com/performance/camaro/build-and-price/packages a GT350 by comparison Is $61,535... https://shop.ford.com/build/mustang/#/config/Config%5B%7CFord%7CMustang%7C2020%7C1%7C1.%7C900A.P8J.....COU.SLB.~YZKAA.SHB.SLS.%5D That's NOT even CLOSE. Not to Mention the SS 1LE shits on a GT350 on a track and runs the same 1/4mile. Even a Mustang GT 5.0 with the Track pack 1Or Track pack 2 is More money and slower than the SS 1LE.
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  21. Compared to other performance SUVs that MPG isn't bad. I'm a retired BMW Tech and have been in X5 that were get MPG's worst than that.
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  22. That's the car model, the Model X is Tesla's SUV and has a Max Tow rating 2,400lbs Less than the Trackhawk. Also the Trackhawk has a greater Range (418 vs. 305miles) and Much quicker to refilling. Also No Tesla Car or suv has any sort of top end. Trackhawk does 180mph, much faster than the P100d. Teslas are 1 trick pony's...only quick from a standing start.
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  23.  @WindyCity1992  There is Track and you have Street. Fastest street car I ever rode in was an Macleran F1 LM. Amazing Car.... Even It wasn't the Quickest or Fastest, It Was Amazing and Special.
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  24.  @PiDsPagePrototypes  All Saleen, Shelby mustang, cobra, most Hennessy car, brands are the same.
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  25. You mean like Ferrari's horse or the Lambo's raging bull? We like our aggressive animal, because we are all animals... better than the germans with their codes 63 gle , 340i, and RS 5, etc.
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  26. Actually Randy drove the Gt500 and the C8 Corvette a VIR Raceway: Gt500 - 1:56.30 C8 - 2:00.96 Roll Race the C8 would be LAST. standing 1/4 mile would be close, 0.1 sec difference between the Gt500 (with a driver that knows how to Launch) and the C8. 0-60 mph is where the C8 Wins. Redeye is the Top speed King here even , C8 would Only beat the Gt500 Track PK and the Zl-1 1LE, the regualr Zl-1 would out run the C8.
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  27.  @johnjones1997bih  "the zl1 is in the same ballpark as a civic type r. "... Not really, Maybe Only when these guys are driving. Randy Pobst Lapped Laguna Seca in the ZL-1 1LE "FASTER" than... R8 V10 Plus McLaren 570s McLaren MP4-12C Nismo GTR Aventador LP700-4 (997) 911 GT2RS - Driver was Porsche Factory race driver (Overbeek) And I think EVERYONE would agree that a Civic Type (ANYTHING), isn't as quick or fast as those cars. As For the Z06, It's ALOT more expensive (w/ the Z07 package with the Lowest trim -it's still $95k (most are $102k+ vs. $73k for the ZL-1 1LE Motor trend tested). Not to mention corvettes are only 2 seats, this can carry 4 ... albeit small people/kids in the back seat. Don't know the cost difference but it's also Spool-valve shocks vs. Magnetic Ride. Sadly the New ZR-1 was ONLY 0.55 seconds faster than the Z06 (which has 105 Less HP and ALot less downforce). C6 Zr-1 with the current Zr-1's Downforce would out lap both the C7 Z06 and C7 Zr-1 there.
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  28.  @prycenewberg3976  Ok,then I agree too.. Ive owned Camaro and worked for Ford.... But Dodge is the Brand That Says, Everyone Deserves....Too Much Power.
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  29. If you are wondering....The Best time Randy has gotten on that track for the ZL-1 1LE a Few other for comparison.... ZL1 1LE - Manual / 1:26.11 and Auto / 1:25.87 C7 Z06 - 1:25.00 C7 Zr-1 - 1:23.70 Ford GT - 1:23.69 GT3RS - 1:23.67 Huracan Performante - 1:22.53 McLaren 720S - 1:21.75 ACR Viper (Not driven by Randy) - 1:21.24 GT2RS - 1:21.00
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  30. They said it has a 1 sec Delay...and you would have to Guess/launch early. They also said in testing that the regular ZL-1 10spd runs the same time... Mainly because of the stiffer suspension, Weight and aero. The ZL-1 Camaro is around 3930 lbs, Gt500 is in the middle of the 3 at 4,200+lbs. To put it in perspective, the difference in weight between the Zl-1 and Gt500 is almost exactly the same as the difference between the GT500 and Redeye.
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  31. He never said it was better than the GT350, he was talking about the sound @5:55.
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  32.  @6gendj584  Redeye...ONLY Comes with an Auto as No one makes a "Street-Manual" that is Warrantied for the Redeye's 707 ft-lbs of Torque. Tremec's Best trans. is rated for 650 ft-lbs like in the OG Hellcats/Viper and ZL-1(Not sure if that what they use). I DOn't KNow of ANY Front engine /RWD Manual that is rated for more other than FULL -Race Jerico/Liberty/Jefco/ G-Force or Lenco....But a Lenco is 100% Drag racing. X-TRAC Builts the GTS-R trans... For $40k.
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  33. I'd take All 3...but Not in Gray. Balck or Red for the ZL-1 1LE and Plum crazy, Go Mango Orange or Sublime green for the Redeye.
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  34. SunROOF is the biggest NO, for any body working in the automotive industry. They ALWAYS LEAK.... and case $3,000+ damage.
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  35. A ZL-1 1LE IS NOT... More aerodynamic... You have to go back to school and learn about Downforce and how there is ALWAYS a Drag Price. What's the top speed on a ZL-1 1LE??? You were worried about the Drag in a simple drag race with the GT500 and Redeye?
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  36. That's what I miss about Motor Trend Youtube... Rnady lapping the cars on the same tracks, Mainly Laguna Seca, Willow spring or rarely chuckwalla. A more consistent comparison of Lap times.
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  37. Exorcist isn't a Factory Built car. If you wanted to do a "Tuner Challenge" that would be cool but the Exorcist would get shit on. Hennessey build Challengers up to 1,500hp and There are Plenty of Mustang Tuners.
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  38. Sound like a Mustang fanboy... As they Only , compare "Modded versions" against stock cars.
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  39. It's crazy that there is ONLY , the $45k more expensive M5 Comp. to compare it to? M5 sh*ts on it with awd 350lbs less in a Drag race ... But Gets The Same Mpg , 90Hp Less in C & D Testing ... Also 30Mph Slower Top Speed.
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  40. Dame, You could have gotten a Dodge DEMON or Viper for those amounts. You are also for getting fuel near me is $2.89/Gallon about 0.70euro/liter for Premium 96/97 Ron.
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  41. I know the car is Old but considering the power?size.... you need to compare it to a ALPINA B7 E65. That is the Fastest model ever sold in the USA It had that crazy A/C Clutch That locked up and kicked the Supercharger from 5k to 60k in no time on the 4.4L V8....So alot in common except for the AWD.
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  42. Sadly, Lambos other than the Huracan Performante are straightline cars as much as a Redeye, with less Seats....And Worse Mpg.
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  43. Not on a Highway race... Unless you mean giving head. Tesla is a 1 trick pony like the GTR is... A DOG in a highway race or a Autobahn top speed run.
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  44. LMFAO... NO audi is making this amount of power. Also EU emission regs are much different. EU Emissions care more about CO2 and soot but the US emission are more stringent on NOx and HC. You are talking out your ASS.... Especially since More diesels are driven in the EU and Fail US emissions, Google VW Emission scandal. Motor trend tested the Redeye Vs. the Ferrari 812. Ferrari: Less Torque Less HP Less Weight Less MPG, L/100KM, L/KM More Money More expensive HIGHER CO2 Emissions USA is one of only a few that have strict emissions.... If you want to talk SHIT (Scheisse) than you better look/point fingers at China or India... The countries that are killing the planet.
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  45.  @Silencer102  Sorry but my GOOGLE Translator won't work on Giber-shit.
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  46. Actually, the mustang is the #1 sportscar for women. It's been that way since 1965.
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  47.  @whoville90  Actually, you are Completely Wrong... It's a know FACT, the Mustang is the #1 pony/ sports Car Bought by Women. You Can check Out Jason's test of these cars for the Isimi channel, Even have part of Mustang Commercial where they bring up How it's been called , "The Secretary's Car". I can send you other Links , If You want to learn about Mustangs. Most Fangirls Know Very Little about the Mustang.
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  48. Challenger is a pony car too. Actually the Barracuda was the First in this Sub-muscle car category..Not the Mustang. It was originally because they weren't Mid-size cars (muscle cars), they were considered compacts in the 60/70s.
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  49. Need to run them in the SILVER STATE Classic, as "it is THE LONGEST/FASTEST, public road races in the World. World RECORD"The AVG. Record is 219.6340mph (avg.) over 90<120 miles. On the 5+ miles straights they have been over 240 mph. Non of them can touch the record... but it's the best comparison of the 3 that can be done in the USA for more than 60 miles of testing.
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  50. DOHC small CC/cylinder are High pitched vs. the Bass Bellow of a Big Cubic inch American car. It's preference.... But the Most part it's MUCH CHEAPER getting MORE power from a BIG American V8 than a Small Euro/JDM engine....No matter the replies from the Youtube /peanut gallery... It's a FACT. Big V8s Will Always sound better than turbo V6/4 cyl. engines.
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  51. A Cannonball run across the USA a mini cooper would beat a Tesla when it's charging for 60 hrs during the race.
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  52.  @devanandshaji6573  First, You said , "ALL these records will be broken by shelby GT500". I SAID, "NOT TOP SPEED". Then I pointed out that it's going to be priced in the range of the ZR-1, 911 Turbos, etc. Another FACT.. is FORD's (CLAIMED) 1/4 mile time was done "by them" on a "Severely Prepped track" and probably on non-stock tires. Dodge Used a Similarly "Prepped track" on a cold Night (with stock tires) to get the Demon's 9.65 ET. Dodge Claims the Redeye does 10.8@131mph and most testers/magazines can only run mid 11's on stock tires... for comparison. No Magazine will get into the 10's with a GT500, They Never run the Claimed prepped track times. Motortrend and other magazines were invited to a "PREPPED DRAGSTRIP" by FORD to run the GT500 and NOT ONE was able to get into the 10's. 11.12 was the FASTEST time ran (motor trend's fastest 11.287@130.19 mph). On Normal street surface testing mid/high 11's is what people are going to run in stock trim. Just look at the Motortrend article/video on the 850hp Shelby supersnake, it ran slower than a Stock 662hp GT500 in 1/4 mile testing. And I actually want to see what the GT500 can do , I don't hate it...(Only the Fangirls that can't except the facts) I do think the $92,495 price for the GT500 w/ a $18,500 carbon fiber track that Motor trend tested is TOO Expensive...especially since that is MSRP and the GT350Rs were being price gouged (being sold for $30k over MSRP)... So to get one you are going to have to spend $130<$150k for one. 2nd disappointment is that it's a FAT PONY, at 4,225 lbs. that is disappointing... compared to this ZL-1 1LE with a Supercharged 6.2L which weighs 3,824lbs with the manual. 3rd I haven't seen it, but Motor trend bashed the interior, saying that it's no different than a $3k GT Premium.
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  53. Thank you for finally testing the ACR. I've always loved it and the fact that Dodge is the Craziest American Car Manufacturer:-D They always push the Limits of what is possible, Street-Legal and will Sell it to the public. You now have to get your hands on a Ram TRX.
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  54. It's SAD that with the same displacement/setup (SC'D) Chevy is SO LOW on POWER (147hp LESS, COME ON)...Atleast they are Lower on weight , but they have nowhere near the Room or Daily drive-ability. Even the ZR1 is down 42hp, LOL. Need someone that has a Last Gen ACR swap in the REDEYE engine and give it Randy Pobst to Lap at Laguna Seca;-).. bet it would SHIT on the GT2 RS's time.
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  55.  @Tywild327  Demon,has 808hp, stock on (91/93 octane) ,pump gas. 840hp with the Demon crate's Race Ecu on 100 Octane , Which Most People can't buy at the pump.
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  56. I think they did the drag race and burnouts first and they got carried away.
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  57. 21 MPG. hwy.
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  58. It's about weight, Challenger is 1,000 lbs more than a Porsche. Also the Porsche has 65% on the rear tires or is AWD. Both of which are cheating. GT2 RS is shit in the 1/4 mile vs. a 911 turbo S.
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  59. That wing ISN'T 1776mm wide, It's 1,876mm...because it has the Extreme Aero Package. The "BASE"...LOL, ACR's wing is 1,776mm wide.
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  60. That's a tuner car... Not production. Also, Hennessey has Hellcat packages with well over 1,000hp.
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  61. ??? You do realize... ALL the F1 cars have it work that way TOO. Stupid is if it is on the steering column and DOESN'T move with the wheel.
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  62.  @keepitthoro6768  LMFAO, You DUmb-Fuck, You want them to be where your hands are. If you are driving into a corner at 100+ you don't want to be taking your hands off the wheel reaching for the paddle. You need to do some research so you don't look like an IDIOT.
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  63. Have to wait until the get the green light to use a new platform, Rhumor is that it will use the Alfa Romeo Guilia platform and will be about 500lbs lighter.
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  64.  @rockandroll4689  GT500 is Alot more $$ than aZL1 or ZL1 1Le. Camaros have always ran circles around Mustangs,handling wise. My 82 v6, shit on '95 Gt mustangs, when it came to handling. Acceleration, My 93 Dakota Shit On Alot Of Foxbody Sn95 Mustangs. Since the 80's, And they Still Do. They Still Have The Worst Visibility of the 3.
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  65. The 392 was the ORIGINAL, TOP FUEL engine... IT MADE DRAG RACING!! That is the reference. First in every record since, In Top fuel racing until the 426 HEMI. Earlier 331 Hemis were banned from racing in INDY 500 earlier. ALtered Hemi 426 cars were banned from NHRA and Raced in IHRA for a while. REGARDLESS OF BRANDS....EVERY, TOP FUEL DRAGSTER AND FUNNY CAR ARE MOPAR POWERED , a modded 426 hemi.AND 2,500+ POWER STARTED ON THE GROUND WITH THE 392 HEMI.
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  66. Mustang Hood VENTS ARE A JOKE....HIDEOUS... MAKE A NEW HOOD FOR GOD SAKE!
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  67.  @_hashtag  Lol, did I say the Zl1 was 3,700lbs... No it's just you a Ford fangirl making shit Up. Gt500 Will Never Run10.7 In Stock Trim. Just Like The last Gt500, Never Ran 200Mph.
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  68. ZL1 1LE is NOT more areodynamic... A standard ZL1 is , BUT NOT the 1LE. The wing, canards and other aero modes add drag. They should have used the standard Zl-1 as then both cars would be on Real street tires , and the weight difference makes up for the power difference.
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  69. Crazy that the Redeye Lapped that track as quick as a F80 M3 w/ Carbon Cermaic brakes, which weights about 1,000lbs less.
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  70. Wish they did a Top speed run... Zl1 1LE (173mph top speed) and GT500 ( 180 top speed) would both be a FEW MILES behind the Redeye (203 mph).
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  71. Or if the Redeye had sticky tires like the Others. All Season Vs. 2 (Lighter cars) on track tires.
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  72.  @daftdragoon6086  NO... It's NOT modified. FORD is the ONLY AMWERICAN BRAND... that "CLAIMED" A FALSE HP #S.\They Done it MANY TIMES.
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  73.  @daftdragoon6086  REDEYE... Runs on POS PS4. PUNK ASS Mustang GT500 are Bitches runnning on road racing tires?.... Just like the ZL1 1-LE.
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  74. Ford has multiple Mexico Plants and Borrowed Money from the Government too.
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  75. Not with these cars,mustang has no chance on a road course. It's been that way for most of the last 40Yrs.
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  76. The automatic ZL-1 is MUCH quicker in the 1/4 mile than the manual. As For the Redeye.... NO ONE makes a Manual for a Front engine rear wheel car that is rated for more than 650 lb-ft of torque....Thats why only the base hellcats can be bought with a manual.
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  77. Fastest Big Car I drove on the Job was a E65 B7 Alpina... Can you compare that too this? about the same power/weight,etc. Sadly ALL BMW's Have No Balls as they are ALL Governed. I like the E60 M5 alot Better than the F01, and the E92 M3 didn't have the ride or Fun to drive as the Older E46 M3. E36 M3's are a Joke in my book. E34 M5's was the LAST Great Ride, FAST M5 BMW ever Built. 65 750i rode like SHIT COMPARED to the older E32 750iL which was like Butter at 100mph, same goes for the 7 series. E32 740iL was a limo compare to a subcompact ride in a E65 750i.
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  78.  @unknowndesconocido8325  It's not , IF it will leak... But when, and how much the damage will be. Not to mention they break/ Crack overtime. My cousins Z71's sunroof had Cracks on the Frame within 4-5 years.
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  79. 5th gear wheel-spin @ full throttle... For $100k+/- IS why you get this car. Can't get this in a EUROPEAN, or JDM model for the price. (FACT)
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  80.  @victormontano7148  No, It's still a Mercedes designed built Model.. When Fiat Redesigns it then it's Fiat. A F40 is wasn't a Fiat...even though Fiat Owned Ferrari during the F550/Enzo years.
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  81. Really got to have someone try the hi-powered Challengers with a set of sticky tires (trofeo R, Zl-1 1LE goodyears, ACR Kumho's or Michelin cups). 4,521lbs on all seasons are never Ideal no matter how wide a Tire. I'd Love to see how much of a difference they would make. Any extra 700lbs doesn't help either, Redeye weighs the same as a 2013 (last RWD) 750i BMW and is as Big... and how fast are they on a track??? 2013 Alpina only pulls 0.89 Lateral G's, Hellcat Redeye pulls 0.95 G's.
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  82. It's always pulled 0.90 G's since it was released, (redeye widebody is at 0.94g) great for a car it's size/weight). That is what most RWD German sport/luxury cars of the same weight pull, never heard anyone bash them on handling? No one buying a Challenger buys it to go Road racing. It is the Best Grand Tourer of the 3.
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  83. Only issue is the Tach?? A "SMALL V8 and the redline is ONLY 6,000 rpm, but the Tach goes to 8k..WTF? This should Rev/Make Peak power at 7k. ANY Small L/Cyl. DOHC that DOESN'T make peak power above 6,500 is a Waste. Also GM engine covers Look DUmb, as if the engine was dropped on it's Top....Same with the LT4. Other than those this it's a Nice car.
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  84. 1st mods... Fitting, the ACR's 355s on ALL Corners Sell the hood to a Hellcat owner and make a CF 4" Cowl Induction Hood. Swap To A Smaller Blower Pulley.... Last Would Be (for awhile), A 10<15 % Larger Cam With A/Rev Kit To Shift Just Above 7,000. Then Comes The $$$ to Lose 500<900 lbs.
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  85. Mustangs Only out sell the rest because the Mustang is the #1 sportscar bought by women, FACT. It definitely doesn't outsell because of performance... Or price nowadays. It might be the sound, Mustangs have usually been the nosiest of the 3 ponycars.... or it's just Brand loyalty.
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  86.  @williamjordan5554  Not when you don't have the performance to back it up... Like it has been for the Mustang for most of the last 20 yrs. Also... there is Loud and Too Loud and the Mustang has always been more of the latter, when compared to the camaro or challenger. Too loud is more of a Teen/adolescent thing (IE, Hondas with Coffee can exhaust that backfire on shifts). Challenger is more for the older crowd that remembers the originals and would rather have a softer ride quieter exhaust, more of a Sleeper. I do admit the Hellcats/Redeyes are on the loud side to be a sleeper, LOL.
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  87. Is Ford ripping everyone OFF.... Or can you get the rear seat back for $1 , like with Dodge??? Fyi, Gt500 Without TheCF Pack Barely Weighs Less ... Even Being So Much Smaller.
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  88. Actually it's Faster than Most DCT cars that have been out. Faster than any BMW M car, Faster than the Nissan GTR, Most Lambo's, or the #s I've seen on Porsche's PDK. When Released the 10spd in the Zl-1 is 25<36% quicker than a PDK..depending on what shift (1<2, 3,4,etc). Only 3 or 4 cars out of 30 with DCT/paddle shift transmissions are quicker.
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  89.  @S.C0501  Not weird...Unless you consider A Straight Male as Weird?
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  90. It's Not a 1 trick pony... Only car hear that can fit 4/5 adults, Fastest top speed Best Ride quality Arguably the Best (Daily driver) car here. Zl1 1LE is the only 1 Trick Pony here.
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  91. That's Only of the line with stock tires...OR if you are a bad driver at speed. DCT and AWD is really just a band-aid for Bad drivers. AWD lowers MPG and is worse for anything resembling a sports car/coupe when it comes to fun. Hell, IDIOTS are pulling on Hand-brakes to drift... when it only takes your right foot in these cars.
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  92. Yeah and the fronts are 295mm. Funny thing is that the tires are reasonably priced compared to Michelins or trofeo Rs tires in the mid 300mms.
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  93.  @--Legacy--  Doesn't take Long to find info. on the web.. Plus I'm a Car Enthusiast/Retired automotive technician/ BMW Master Tech. So much BS/Fake INFO. On youtube comments... I like to keep it Real, Correct the bad Info. Just like when they said the last Gt500 does 200 mph..it doesn't.
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  94. You mean Viper ACR? Regular Viper would go against the Z06 and Maybe the Gt500.
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  95.  @tazkidwell  I hope it's still a V10...But Destroked and Twin turboed so it can Rev Higher but still be a Viper engine (OHV,V10). Mopar did offer a Race Viper 8L V10, Rev'ed to 7K with different valvetrain/cam. 800hp/695TQ. https://www.motor1.com/news/28516/mopar-84-liter-v10-crate-engine-with-800-hp-introduced/
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  96. I need them to test an ULTIMA GTR... They are street legal in the USA.
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  97.  @johnjones1997bih  True, Chevy's Retro Look never really captured the look / beauty of the 1st gen. I will say , They are moving in the Right direction weight / Handling wise. Ford is going the Wrong way when it comes to weight And Price. I will say Atleast They started making Power , Compared late 90s - Release of the Coyote. As for the Challenger , Dodge /SRT has Their hands tied , on what they can Do ... That is , Until they get A New Smaller / Lighter Platform From FCA.
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  98. They need a Hybrid Demon...(not electric). So you can have the V8 sound , supercharger whine and have the electric motors power the front wheels for better of the line performance/ mpg.
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  99. The Viper ran the same time... BUT On Street tires.
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  100. You mean Camaro (SS) 1LE? Yes... Most people are thinking that time was for a ZL1 1LE, LOL. I had one Ford fanboy saying a GT350 is cheaper than the 1LE on the track lap times...LOL.
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  101. Well Your DAD Loves dressing In Drag so He Must be a LOSER? Also the Nissanb GTR was ONLY GOOD as a Drag car...Sucks as on the track or in top speed/highway roll racing.
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  102. The Tires are limited to 168mph. While by comparison the Redeye with 797hp, ON it's (Z rated Pirellis) can do 203mph. If want speed, the Older ONLY 707hp Charger can do 204.55mph or a 206mph GTS Viper.
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  103. It's Probably due to the weight or how much downforce it has. Spin/stepping out slows you down. As for the drag race that was due to Ford/Tremec or the bad driver.
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  104. 392 has much Larger rims ( 20s ) which allows Larger brakes, 15.4 inch w/ 6 pistons up front. The Demon's had to be much smaller due to the rim size ( 18 inch ) So it has only 13.8 Inch front rotors W/ 4 Piston Calipers. The Demon Actually Stops Shortest 97ft 70 - 0 mph of any Challenger ( due to the sticky Drag Radials ), But only 2 - 3 times Before massive Brake Fade.
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  105. That 15.7L / 100Km or ( 15 US mpg) Fuel Economy isn't that bad... especially for how you drive it and the HP & Weight. I have seen Far LESS on cars with 200 Less HP. It's ALOT better than what the instrument cluster was showing on the New GT500 (39 less hp) video I saw... which showed 6.7 MPG or 35.1 Liters / 100 KM !!! 2:27 in to this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxac5ajP9PA&t=6s
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  106. Talking price 18:35, They are much cheaper... more equal Models than a Redeye to choose from. That's just a poor choice for comparison. FYI, the Blonde must have been dropped on his head as a kid. They have the same size engine... Just Dodge makes more HP/Ltr. I agree it is stupid to compare vastly different cars. AKA, (anything German to similarly priced USA models). A Hellcat is the same price as this ZL1... But for some reason the Canadian Dodge site doesn't show a widebody version being available?
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  107. ZL-1 1LE Sucks on the street....But NOt the Dodge... Probably the Best GT Cruiser and Highest Top Speed. Zl-1 1LE is the 1 TRICK Pony. Not to Mention NO Room for Riders compared to the DODGE.
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  108. The Base Model isn't Over-priced...and The parts ALONE, in the CF Track pack cost $18,000 Not including labor or taxes(I wanted to know so I looked up the parts). The CF Track Pack is actually a Deal. Zl-1 10spd starts @ $64,590 Gt500 DCT starts @ $72,900 and it has 110hp More. $8k for 100hp is a good deal...especially as the Shelby will hold it's Value.
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  109. An AWD M5... The Redeye WILL Shit on IT 60-150+mph Especially that in North America it's Limited to ONLY 162 mph and the Redeye does 203 mph. German/Euro Spec cars don't mean ANYTHINHG on a North American Youtube page.
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  110.  @powerwill8748  I think the SC on the ZL-1 is a high twist 2.3 L Eaton Roots SC. Doge uses a 2.7L high twist screw type SC made by IHI ... they've made Alot of the Factory turbos for Japanese Sportscars.
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  111. The results were a Given Way before , Either race was run. The Big Dodges are Autobahn /GT car ( Demon Only With the Demon Crate Ecu and a Hellcat Widebody Wheel swap,) They are Only Quick off the Line on a Prepped track, prefferably With M/T ET street Or Hoosier DOT Slicks. Still They are the Fastest way to transport 5 adults in an American Brand, Other than CTS-V Cadillac.
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  112. Most likely the GT500 will be Priced between the Z06 w/Z07 pkg. and the ZR1... So its out of the Zl-1 1LEs category. People usually don't shop comparing cars that are $20k or more difference in price. Ford even said the top of the line Mustangs are being made to go after/compete with corvette...Since Ford is too Scared to make a Regular model to do so.
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  113.  @Luis_GonzaIez  That's true ...ZL-1 1LE Does have more downforce , which hurts Trap Speed. The stiff Track Suspension Hurts it's ET , Even with the Sticker Tires.
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  114.  @Luis_GonzaIez  What really would have helped was if they could have softened the suspension ALOT , to get some weight transfer for a Better Launch.
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  115. Not true this is one of the most evenly matched comparisons. Both... Fr.engine/ rwd / automatic sports cars Both on All-Season sports Car tires. No other 2 Sports cars are closer...Except ,Mustang VS. Camaro.
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  116. The Question is... WILL ANY Magazine/ Youtube channel EVER test the Base GT500, It's already getting Boring watch EVER test on the Carbon Fiber Packaged GT500. Should have a review of The Base Gt500 vs. the Redeye. Both would be on All season tires (Michelin Sport 2 ton the GT500 vs. Pzero on the Redeye).
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  117. The Baddest and biggest pair of balls for the american public. No NON- active aero car can beat this. FACT. If it had Huracan Perfortmonte active aero. it would run 6:50 around the RING.
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  118.  @WhiteGoldSynesthesia  And it's an American Brand / model ... So they are the ones to say "How" it should be pronounced... Just like the Pagani "Huayra".
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  119. Yes, The Torque comes in lower in the Powerband.
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  120. NEED to See a Redeye/Maybe a Demon vs. a 1968 Hurst Hemi Cuda (which was the Quickest car Sold in American until the Veyron) with the same tires on the Hurst Hemi? I still have an OLD Car Craft Magazine of an Original test that said the 1968 Hursat Hemi did 10.30@130mph. If I had a choice(Free of course), I would get the 1968 Hurst Hemi Cuda...Or a 1969 Hemi charger Daytona(fastest car from the 60s/70s).
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  121. They All, needed to be the street tire cars. No 1 will test a reg. Gt500 as it would be slower than both, Zl1 Or Redeye. Tires Need To Be The Same Type.
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  122. 3.7sec, The All Season Pirelli's hurt performance (No traction) , Most magazines are getting 11.3 in the Quarter Mile, I think SRT mounts DOT drag radials on it to get the 10.80 ET. Not sure if they test on street black top like Motor trend does or at an actual Drag strip...that would make a big difference along with the Weather/temp.
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  123. The Redeye doesn't come in a Manual....as No Tremec Trans as the Redeye engine exceeds the Torque limit of the TR6060 form the Viper.
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  124. And alot don't like the look of the camaro or the sound of the New Gt500. To Each (her) own. They aren't meant to be alike or people with different tastes would have a choice, like everyone wearing the same outfit "ALL the TIME". But Performance/Ride/ Handling is a different story.
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  125. You need more than "Just a tune" on ANY Hatch back EVER made. Any handle held tuner wouldn't make them 3 sec quicker in the 1/4 mile as the Gt500 Stock is low 11's in stock trim. Also it would still just be a hatchback, waaah...shift.... Backfire...Backfire. Even an EVO would take intake/ bigger turbo/exhaust..probably injectors or a standalone computer. Plus it's Bigger Props, mandatory to race stock vs. stock. ANything can be made to go fast... seen 7 sec gen1 Neons go fast even with FWD.
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  126. Yeah it is. C6 Zr-1, C8 Z06, Dodge Viper...ALL had more Power and ALOT more Torque. 1968 Hurst hemi and ZL1/L88 Corvettes had more power TOO.
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  127. A Tuner Car... True Sheblys Always have been. Last Supersanke was ran slower 1/4 times than the stock 662 GT500, all the power in the world doesn't mean anything if you can't put it to the ground....Hope this one does it better.
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  128. Yes , but in North America, it got the same mpg (95hp less) and 32 mph slower in top speed , during C&D Testing.
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  129. Also not rear engine and about 1,000lbs heavier and 80k less.
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  130. Now that is a Thoughtout / comperable race. Next week they will have a Hyabusa vs. a 3500 Cummins Ram dually,Lmao. 1 Race Standing 1/2 Mile. The other, Towing 20,000 Lbs.
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  131. They were in the Usa, only "Wankers" say, zed L1.
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  132. FYI, ALL Euro/JDM Sportscars use Automatics... in the Form of a DCT. PDK, Nissan GTR, Ferrari, Bugatti, Lambo transmissions are ALL Automatics... Regardless of what their Fan-Girls say. No Clutch pedal = automatic.
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  133.  @TheCdM1981 1st. I was just making a FACTUAL statement. No Need to get pissy...I wasn't calling You a Fan-Girl. FYI, I'm a retired Auto Technician, have driven plenty of manual, traditional automatics and DCT cars. Most importantly, I know what is BS/fake, that is posted online. Another Fact is that 95% of the people that buy/track manual cars...aren't that good at handling the shifting (even if THEY think they are). People Not beiing able to shift quick enough without bouncing off the rev-limiter is a big reason (other than getting to charge alot for it) why brands have switched to automatics...and YES a DCT (IS) an automatic (no clutch pedal). The multi-shift isn't the transmission, it's the transmission CPU programming...Fact. The Biggest issue with the 8 spds /10spds used by Pony cars and the C7 Z06 is Over-heating...with proper cooling that wouldn't be an issue. Chevy Ran the 10 spd Zl1 at the Ring and it worked great... The video of the run is on youtube.
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  134.  @TheCdM1981  Almost Ever youtuber that comments on the videos. It's amazing the amount of bad info. spread on the internet/ Youtube comment area. Especially in amateur Youtube video races. Kids on here, Love to believe them as accurate or proof. It's the same with the whole "Hypercar name"... it's just a fancy way of saying Super expensive supercar.... just Hype. I'm still amazed at how many people believe Lambo designed the Viper V10, LOL.
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  135. Not the viper... Even the best corvette can't do that.
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  136. Yes, You can tell by the fender Flares. Redeye's can be had with out it and save $6,000.
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  137. Lambo is GermanGerman owned.... Engineers havehav toto work with they are given. Example, Benz owned/Designed, Chargers / Challengers BEING BUILT, Years After being Bought By FIAT.
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  138. Base ZL1 AUTO - $64,590 US Base Redeye would have been $72,295 US....But EVERYONE ONLY tests the Widebody (just like NO One has ever tested a NON-Z07, Z06) Widebody Redeye - $78,295... but you have 147 more HP and 57 lb-ft more. The trims / packages/ accessories are what REALLY ADD ON. I was a BMW Master Tech before I retired and had cars with $30k in options. FYI... NEVER GET A SUNROOF...about $3k<10K to fix, if there is a Problem.
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  139. They aren't stopping the Camaro...that happened for a few years in the early 2000's.
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  140. 3??? ... What are you Smoking??? It got 15 mpg in testing as the 87hp Less powerful M5 Comp. During Car & Driver Testing.
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  141. It's ALL in the tires..and it was the ONLY one on ALL-SEASON tires and Not track tires.
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  142. Manual isn't available because Tremec or anybody else for that matter makes a manual that is rated/quarantined for the Redeye and it's Torque output.
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  143. You do realize the GTR is competition for a Z06 or (late) Viper. Challengers, Mustangs, Camaros are competition for the 370Z. So When they make one that is as fast as a GTR or an American Brand let me Know. FYI, The GTR (ANY MODEL) would get shit on on a Highway race. Or on a track versus a ZL1 1LE, New GT500. They are 1 Short/pump Chumps in the car world. Especially compared to their competitors like a C7 Z06 or Last Viper. In a Highway roll race they are a DOG...and Have No top Speed in USA SPec Form...which I think they use. Also the Dodge hadles 5 people...show me a GTR that does. It was GOOD <2014 when Nissan started making it slower/Heavier and ALOT more Expensive. It's a 1 trick pony from a standing start to use the AMAZING launch control, but in the real world it's NOTHING in the Sportscar world... and this video isn't even about sportscars.
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  144. 2019 ZL-1 1LE Only comes with a Manual and the Redeye Only comes with the Auto... So they had no choice With these 2 models. They Could have used a Reg. ZL1 with the Auto...Better Comparison anyway.
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  145. 1LE is a Better track car for the same Price. FORD Fk'd UP and made the Mustang a PIG... Not like a Dodge but it affects EVERYTHING.
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  146.  @40calDeathPunch  Lol, Im a retired BMW Master technician / Certified Ford technician. So Other than Randy Pobst... I Know More And Driven More Fast Cars than them. I even Crew'd/Worked on a 6 Sec Top Dragster.
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  147.  @40calDeathPunch  Lol, their mechanics ,"couldn't lift MY BALLS OFF THIER CHIN ,"Like I said, Randy is the only race car driver,i respect. I've Driven Hellcats, Mustang Cobra R, Every M3/M5 up to the F01. Drove and Worked on 800Hp All Motor Drag Cars, Rode In An F1 LM McLaren. I Enjoy this Channel , But if You consider them , Experts , Ur A Chump.
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  148. What Z28??? Last one went out of production about 4 years ago, And it was ALOT Slower than the ZL-1 1LE on track. Zl-1 1LE Killed the Shelby GT350R, which killed the Z/28's track time. Z/28 does beat the regular Shelby Gt350 on track, but so does the SS 1LE camaro.
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  149. 370z is the mustang's JDM Competition, the Zr-1 and the late Viper are/were the GTRs competition.
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  150. Widebody drops to 195mph, 33mph over an M5 comp.
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  151. 10 SPd is VERY quick... almost as quick as a 2016 PDK but with More gears. Also quicker on the track than the Manual.
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  152. GTR is a Small D*ck / Asian kid's dream...that can't drive. Not to mention they went up in price $20k since 2013/2014 with a performance LOSS. Looks like shit/sounds like shit. A DOG from anything from a standing start. (FACT) A Hellcat Rapes!!! a GTR is a "1 PUMP CHUMP" , Any Highway race it would get KILLED by a Hellcat / 650hp ZL-1 and probably by even an OLD 662hp GT500. It Also Sucks ass on the track (USA Spec).
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  153. Pp2 mustang is the same price same hp the mustang just lost like always does on a track.gt350 sold for $25k More. Gt350R Was Over $100k In Nj.
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  154. Actually, $17,500, is the cost of the parts. That is without taxes or labor.
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  155. 80 msec.
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  156. No, especially in the last few years, tires, chassis, engine and trans. Tuning, etc.
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  157.  @ThrottleHouse  Actually you Didn't ... Road test these Models on the road. You must have been referring to the ZL-1 vs. Redeye and a ZL-1 1LE would be TOTALLY different on the street than a regular ZL-1.
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  158. Full Slicks aren't Street legal in... ANY Country.
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  159. The paddles are for turning on/off the REV-Matching Feature. Save on wear and tear, makes for quicker shifts and for those that aren't good at Heal-toe downshifting.
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  160. I couldn't agree MORE, should be reg. ZL-1 and Stock GT500, vs the Redeye. All season tire comparison.
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  161. Not really, The Redeye is 700lbs heavier and is on less sticky true street tires. 850hp Supersnake Gt500 that Motor trend tested had 188hp More than the reg. 662hp GT500 and it was slower in testing in the 1/4 mile. They actually almost have the same lbs./HP around 5.9, and anybody that knows drag racing it's ALL about traction, lbs/hp and gearing. With traction and gearing being equal... 99.9% of the time it's the car with a better lbs/hp. That's why Sportbikes are so quick.
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  162. He also said the Supra got a much better Launch. If it was on an actual Drag strip with timers...actual car time (excluding driver reaction) would show a bigger difference. About 25% of races are won by a Great driver in a slower car.
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  163.  @hankwilliams1747  Especially since the M4 engine run 18 psi. Should be putting out 500hp. Put 18Psi on the 5.0 and you'd be 700hp+. Something on the BMW Engine setup isn't right... There's a restriction that is cause a high boost reading without the power increase. Also I think the Stang Looks better...and I'm Not a Ford Guy even though I worked for them for a while. Also worked for BMW, LOL;-)
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  164. It's a warning signal for squirrels , dogs, etc. to get out of the way ;-)
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  165. Not on in handling or Top speed.
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  166. To last place..
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  167. No, Only 147hp... but in a car that weights 672lbs MORE and is on all season tires vs. the 1LE's Track/slicks and downforce.
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  168.  @turbojunki  Drag race car??? This isn't A Demon ( The Drag Racer). It Doesn't have the drag suspension , Drag radials , lightening (seat / speaker delete , etc.) , skinny front wheels or the Transbrake of the Demon. If you / ANYONE ELSE , Think the Redeye is a Drag Car .... You don't Drag race or know much about it. REDEYE Widebody IS , A Grand Tourer , Plain and Simple.
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  169. There hasn't been a Cobra made for YEARS....Mustang that is. A/C Cobra has been dead for 55yrs?
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  170. Chevy Just started offering an auto in the ZL-1 1LE, It originally ONLY came with a Manual. Not to mention, Most are probably still built with the manual (more durable for track use). The Redeye ONLY comes with an Auto, The Tremec in the Hellcat isn't rated for the Redeye's TQ (would void the warranty).
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  171. They Should have said what the MPG they got during the Full test regular driving/ drag/ track. Also, should have taken the tires off and stood them next to each other to show a BIG reason for the track time/drag race results. Alot of you tubers don't realize that the tires, are the Biggest factor in performance.
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  172. Not even close.
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  173. But, with ... $140K , Extra inm y wallet, THE ULL , IS SLAUGHTERED. NOT to mentionmentio Maintains Cost/ Insurance.
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  174. It's like the BMW M3 Blue.
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  175. ZL 1LE and GT500 "Track Pack" are Made for the same Customers... The Redeye is the Only Car that isn't a direct competitor of the Others/For a Different customer.
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  176. They wouldn't fit. Demon had Much smaller brakes which allowed those small diameter wheels. It needed the ACR Viper's track tires.
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  177. Since the Mid 90's<2000 , it has been the opposite and the vette / viper has been outhandling the world ( excluding Special 911s) and They have been faster in a Straightline.
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  178. You'd destroy the others in any "real world' Highway race, not to mention carry more than 1 passenger doing so.
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  179. Redeye weighs 672lbs MORE and is On All Season Street tires vs. DOT track tires. Not to mention No downforce vs. about 550< 600lbs of Downforce.
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  180. That's Also NOT a Production car... Hennessey makes 1,500hp with the Dodges.
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  181. So TRUE.. atleast make Trofeo R or Michelin Cup 2 tires an option... it's the same BIG issue with the Nissan GTR.
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  182. The Tires and suspension(ride) would be the concern for "Daily driving" one. The T/A 1.0 would probably be the, Best compromise for a Street driven Viper. Has good downforce with the Small Tail Spoiler (not a wing) and splitter. I think it was only 15% stiffer than base suspension, Thicker...but still steel Brakes (Big $$$ Service savings). Stickiest wet weather tire offered on a Viper. GTS and GTC were more of a Luxury model.
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  183. Actually, motortrend was a BIG FORD FAN-GIRL, he expressed the FACTS , in the video about the tires.... So Rewatch, Without The MUSTANG Supplied Ass Dildo.
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  184.  @mjktrash  True... Not to mention the 672lbs difference, 350lbs of downforce vs. aero lift.
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  185. You do realize the corrvette base model only has495hp? Also, this vette would shit on the Much more expensive Carrera Or the Twice as expensive 911 Carrera S. Car & Driver even ran this $70k US C8 against the last Variation $190k 911GT3RS. They ran 0-60Mph in THE SAME TIME. The GT3RS did win the 1/4 Mile , 10.9 vs. 11.2.( Motortrend Ran 11.1 in their Corvette test, Beating the Carrera S) Europe nor Japan Sells Anything in the USA that comes close In Performance/ $$$. FYI, FERRARI Street cars Suck on The Track. Use to be the same with Lambos Before the Huracan.
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  186. Not Bad.
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  187. I think you Mean "COPO Camaro", There is No such thing as a Coop Camaro. Just so you know, Copo means, "Central Office Production Order" as the 60's versions were originally Not a Model and had to be specially ordered and Yenko was the First to do that. Most of the Yenkos were Chevy Built Copo Cars with Just Yenko Seat covers , stripping and Badging...the Most actual Modding was Probably adding just Headers. He wasn't a car builder Or a Tuner Like Shelby. He too For Most part was Just a Tuner..Not a Car designer, He only Modified Ford built Mustangs Like Hennessey, Roush, Lingenfelter, etc do today.
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  188. Atleast for the Drag race since they allowed him to switch from the ZL-1 1LE to the quicker regular ZL-1. Actually the drag race should have Used all the NONE Track models. I don't think we will ever see what a Non-Carbon fiber Gt500 will do.
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  189. They make less than most NON-american supercars. ALso these are relatively low production. If you think about it the toyota corolla, Honda Civic and VW Golf are (because they are sold more) polluting the environment more. FOOD For thought. Also surprisingly these actually get better MPG than quite a few "Supercars".
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  190. Acceleration is about traction and Power to weight... Zl-1 is some 600lbs Lighter as it's ALOT Smaller. A 400hp Turbo Orignal VW Bug would shit on a GT3RS...same thing.
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  191. They are comparing Current production models.
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  192. Zo6 has the same engine. New c8 is down 155hp.
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  193. 2 seater vs. 5 seater. Cadillac CTS-V is the closest to a Hellcat Challenger of any trim level. Obviously you are in the Minority...as the Challenger has been out-selling camaros for a few years and with NO New Platform. Once it gets a Lighter, New chassis...Chevy will Discontinue the Camaro once again... Almost had to do it with the "Not selling C7 corvette", or the 3rd place in Sales(behind the Ram) Pickup. Only Nissan is doing worse as a Car/truck company/brand... And I've liked/owned a Camaro.
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  194. Improves performance / consistency / and extends the life of the clutch ( reduces maintenanance costs).
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  195. Neither were manuals. Redeye ONLY comes with the auto.
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  196. ? Sorry but you only can a manual in an American Muscle car for that price.
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  197. They have the Hellcat Jeep, Durango and TRX. Durango will do 60mph in 3.5sec and seat 7 people.
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  198. Not top speed. Also the price difference will be stupidly high... so it will be on the price range of the Zr-1, 911 turbo, Nissan GTR, etc., Not against these MUCH cheaper challenger/camaro.
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  199. This is a Ponycar shoot out. C8 Corvette comparison would have to be against 911s, GTR (nismo and AMG), 570s....etc.
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  200. Motortrend kicked the crap out of $25k more expensive bmw m2
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  201. They are to activate the rev matching option.
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  202. The great sound.. has been a Mustang GT thing for a long time.... so has the POOR track performance. Even back in the 90's... the GT Barely (if at all) beat the Top Camaro...but the Camaro ALWAYS Beat the GT in EVERY other Category (braking, track lap times, lateral G's) like a Red-headed stepchild. Foxbody Mustangs where Nothing special "stock"... unless it was an LX...but that was only Special in a drag race. Most of the last 30yrs the Mustang has been OUT-PERFORMED by the Camaro... but that doesn't show in sales... Meaning the Mustang is all about sound/looks and NOT Performance.
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  203. LOL. ;-)
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  204. These pass emissions , unlike , smaller / less powerful european models that were caught rigging their Emissions. Another thing is that these are Very Low production models.... I.E. No Impact. What's Killing the Planet more are the Dumb People that Buy / Drink bottle Water. Billons of those bottles are Littered every year and manufacturing polutes more than these cars. Even Electric Cars Harm the environment.
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  205. I think the c8's back looks a Hell of alot worse than front. People that hate challengers just don't get Muscle Cars...But I still Wish it weighed 500Lbs Less.
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  206. Not true, the application equally on the rotor, does have a significant effect on braking. more importantly is the diameter. even 1 inch allows the rotor to cool faster.
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  207. Randy is the Best part of this video and ALL Old Motortrend ones. Definitely the BEST test driver.
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  208. He was talking about the Demon, also the Redeye is 797hp not 707.
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  209. There is NO "Turbo whine".. It's Supercharger whine due to the open hood design. None of these have turboes.
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  210. The thing is that this track is very short tight/low speed track ... So these cars are not able to use their gifts. For example on a short (2.24 miles) BUT fast track (Laguna Seca) the Zl1 1LE is 3.48 sec faster than the SS 1LE.
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  211. Since the Brit swapped ZL1s for the Drag strip, Jason should have swapped on some Street DOT Mickey Thompson or Hoosier drag tires for the 1/4 mile run.
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  212. Cop cars areVery Slow... Butt the CB /Radio is hardt o out run.
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  213.  @paulg7964  Yeah , got have a plan and be in the right place to get away. Brother-in-law is a Seargent in the NJ State Police, but when he was jst an Officer , A Stolen SRT Jeep got away. The guy got away by taking an Off ramp at high speeds in the rain , before getting Lost on the streets of Newark.
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  214.  @TopDrumCorps  Your Accord didn't even have Half the Horsepower so 21 is more impressive for a 645hp car than 30mpg for a <300hp car. FYI, the 436hp LS6 powered corvette got 32.8mpg in testing by Popular Mechanics. Hell 1980 diesel VW Rabbitt got better MPG than a Hybrid Civic and taking MPG nothing touches a full EV like a Tesla.
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  215. Not the same , like driving a S85 m5 vs. M6.
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  216. I bet the rear tires were at 32psi instead of high teens/ low 20s like they should of. Also, they probably were Cold AF. Not to mention... Could they Find a DUSTIER stretch of track to run.
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  217. challenger had all seasons, And you are right this is a BS, comparison. The Zl-1 1LE should be a regular ZL-1 and the GT500 CF/Track pack should be a base Gt500... THAT would be a Comparable test with different results.
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  218. That's Called a " Tuner car" ... Not a Production model. All Original Shelby's were tuner cars too, as was the Shebly Cobra. Same with Hennessey, Saleen and Lingenfelter.
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  219. MOPAR Vs. CHEVY.. MOPAR MAKES MORE...Been like that since the 60's... maybe 50's but I have to Check. Chrysler had Fuel Injection before chevy First to make 1hp/cubic inch Alot of 1st in speed records and HP. Even GM's TOP Model C7 Zr-1 ONLY made 755hp while the demon was 808hp on regular gas and 840 on 100 octane, year/s before.
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  220. Only down 66-69hp, BUT is 600- 900lbs lighter?
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  221. It's the difference in rear weight bias. A good example is this 495hp c8 will out run the 650hp C7 Z06, which is also Much lighter. Also the surface covered in dust and the Demon NOT being set up for the Run.
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  222. For a 4,000+ lbs car, that is fast. look up what a Rolls Royce runs.
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  223. It also weighs 672 lbs more and has All season tires vs. DOT track tires on the ZL-1 1LE. 2 Completely different cars built for 2 completely different environment and customers.
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  224. What are u smoking? Same hp mustang is more expensive.... And alot slower as usuall. That's why it's The Favorite Sport Car For Women.
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  225. It weighs 672lbs MORE, is On all Season Street tires vs. DOT track slick on the Camaro...weight and better tires are a good equalizer.
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  226. True the guy that ran the laps wasnt confident in the mustang and that was the difference.
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  227.  @Itr-tv7kt  Only in the Subcompact..Economy car market. Not anywhere else... Not pickups OR SUVs or real performance cars. Even the Old NSX was "Mediocre" and the New one is even worse with how much it costs... Most other JDM brands have better Performance cars.
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  228. Autobahn GT Cruising. It handles for a street car...the others are Track cars. Different tires would make all the difference as the Others are on DOT Track tires and the Redeye is on all season street tires. Not to mention the Redeye was the ONLY one that didn't have Extensive aerodynamic aids to give it down-force. If they ran the reg. ZL1 and Reg Gt500 it would be a Much closer race on the track.
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  229. You forgot to track lap them or say what the cost difference was?
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  230. So using the US. Specs/Pricing ... Bullet is $10,000 more base price. 173 hp More/ 125 lb-ft More.. But 734 lbs More Curb weight. Bullet is 0.6 sec quicker to 60 mph, and 0.8 sec quicker/ 8 mph Faster in the 1/4 mile The Typer R has a Higher Top Speed as it is Drag limited (169 mph) BUT the Bullet Is Governed to Only (163 mph). Type R has WAY Better Braking, 147 ft vs.165 ft (70 mph - 0). Crazy is the Type R is ONLY 214 lbs Lighter than the 7.0L LS7 Powered C7 Z06.
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  231. That's not coming out until next year;-(
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  232.  @Trussme96  True they could have seat and radio delete like the Demon had, Hellcat already comes with an aluminum hood. Redeye is 57/43 weight (from motor trend magazine). Tires are still the issue (compound, not really the size). The Iron Block doesn't help with weight either. Have to wait for the next Gen which will be lighter smaller.
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  233.  @ARDEN440i  I didn't hear about that bad news... Do you know what platform they are considering?
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  234.  @ARDEN440i  Small usually means lighter which is, what is needed. They should atleast use it for a Track focus AAR Cuda Model. SRT needs a model Built to Attack corners since the Viper is no more ;(
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  235. Funny, since Chrysler Owned, Lambo during the, Diablo years?
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  236. It is Sad that awd is only available with v6s.
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  237. It's funny how the drag race results were the exact opposite of the roll race... Anyway More people roll race know a days .. atleast near me.
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  238. 1LE isn't Heavier (672lbs Lighter than the Redeye), and there is No Demon in this Video or In Production. Even the Demon is a Great GT cruiser. That's one of the Challengers strong suits, better Ride quality and more interior space than the Camaro/Mustang.
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  239. It wouldnt run <11sec on the street. It ran 11.3 on a prepped drag strip.
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  240.  @_hashtag  Lmfao, it's a 11.4 car on every road, other than a prepped VHT Dragstrip at night/50*F. Fyi, I Am a Ford & Bmw Factory Certified Technician. 2000 Cobra R was The Best Handling Mustang.
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  241.  @_hashtag  It's disapointing that Ford made it so big and fat. It should be 3,700lbs not 4,100Lbs. 99.9% won't Track It. 50% will 1/4 Mile Or Highway/ Roll Race.
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  242.  @_hashtag  Every legendary car will seem outdated. Doesn't mean it wasn't great. My buddies E30 M3 is Still a great car, Even it's not considered fast. Fastest I Drove was a Hellcat, Fastest I Rode in was an Mclaren F1 LM, Owned by Ralph Lauren.
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  243. Tesla takes HOURS to recharge, Hellcat... 35<40 SECONDS to refill? The range, SOUND and Top speed difference are What Separate Them.
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  244. Mistake At 13:03, "It's a caricature of a 1960's car".... FYI, The Old Challenger came out in 1970.
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  245. Delphi invented them, chevy was the first, before ferrai ,or anyone else.
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  246. Is the "BLACKWING ENGINE" in any Other Models??? If NOT, THOMAS is Correct in calling it a BLACKWING!
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  247. Hellcats and Demons have, Horrible Times on "regular road/the street" To much power/ tor
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  248.  @nicolasbocchino3761  To be fair...Almost ALL / if not All , Quoted Facotry 1/4 mile times from Every Brand are done on a dragstrip. The Main thing is that it's Record time was Verified By a Recognized and Highly respected Sanctioning Body, They wouldn't Lie for Dodge or Risk their Reputation. Now Nurburgring times are completely fake like Porn star tits or Male porn star Measurements, LOL.
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  249. Depends on the race. reg. Zl-1 can match it in a drag race on the street. Redeye Shit on the New GT500 in a highway/roll race or top speed.... 20+mph higher top speed for the Redeye. On a track it's close between a ZL1 1LE and a GT500...since it weighs SO much more. I can send you the test link. I will say, it's the best "ALL Around" Model...but it's also the newest by many years.
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  250. It's because fiat is milking the challengers " Mercedes platform as it's still selling very well. That's Why Anyone That calls It A Fiat Doesn't know anything about Cars. Charger/ Challenger are Still a Diamler Product.
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  251. 1,000 times More...Use to Be 500 cars are Englishtown on Open-track night. Maybe 25 on the road-course...Also these are still POny car/muscle cars (FIRST). Not many Road courses and they Definitely aren't available as Much. Since Englishtown closed down... Highway Roll Racing is the BIG THING.
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  252.    Brad, can't have a manual Redeye because the Tremec is rated ( WARRANTIED ) for up to 650 lb-ft. It all Comes down to , Who's paying for the Repairs. Actually, Motor Trend did faster laps in the auto ZL1 than with the Manual, just reliability for Serious / Long Races will always go to the manual. Probably why Chevy used the Auto ZL1 for it's run at the Ring.
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  253.    Here's the video it was a 2017 model ZL-1 and the driver let the auto do all the shifts...he didn't use the paddles - ( 7:29.60 ) isn't bad for no aero, on street tires with the auto doing all the shifting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBmLnLJLQ0o
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  254. In ZL-1 1LE Form the 10 spd doesn't help that much... The aero and Suspension stiffness will make it lose. On the track of course it kicks the All Season tire Fat Redeye. Have to pick your battles. Just Highway Racing and Top speed is NO PLACE for a ZL-1.
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  255.  @AbdulE36  ACR Kumhos are only $350/ea. Cup 2s of similar dia. /Width are $573/ea. Trofeo R are $691 / ea. Craziest tires are Cup 2 R at $872 a piece 🤯
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  256. It's the tires... All - seasons vs. 2 track cars on street-legal race tires.
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  257. Redeye for Highway Racing and top speed, GT Cruising.
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  258. True, 2019 it was 90 hp (advertised..Wink, Wink). 2020 it dropped to 80 hp.
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  259.  @ThrottleHouse  It's an AMERICAN Brand, Just the same as Germans hate Porsche...when it's Pronounced "Porscha". It's 100% about Respect for the country, brand, model.
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  260.  @daftdragoon6086  Yeah for alot less HP the Camaro will Shit on the GT500.
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  261. Drag race by definition, means 1/4 mile or 402m for the None informed people. Weight could be easily looked up...this channel has a Shoe string budget... I think they are still counting... 1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi, 3 Mississppi times. Haven't gotten a spot watch...let alone show any Racelogic or compare-able data instrument.
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  262. CAMAROSS 1LE, EASILY SHITS ,ON THE GTPP2 ONTHE TRACK AND FOR LESS MONEY. HELL, MY 82 V6 CAMARO "Easily"OUT HANDLE A FOXBODY 5.0 GT."
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  263.  @matrox  Hot Rod did a Manual vs. auto using the SS model and the auto was 2/10th (.19s) quicker than the manual (with a good driver) and 2/10 is a BIG difference in drag racing... If you ever drag raced. In the ZL-1 the difference would be even greater.
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  264. Camaro SS 1LE. Runs the 1/4 faster than a Mustang GT w/ PP1 or 2, runs the 1/4 as quickly as a $75k GT350 and kills them both on a road course for less money.
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  265. There is No such thing as a NEW Trans-am... atleast Built by the Factory and all of these are OEM/Factory built cars.
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  266. Demon was strictly built for drag Racing...The Dodge Viper/ACR was the "Track Model". Even in this video Jason says the Redeye isn't a Track model...just a Sportier Hellcat .
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  267. SO TRUE, Also ANYTHING... WITHOUT a 3 PEDAL... IS AN AUTOMATIC (fact). Clostest to be a Manual was E46 M3's... as it was the same trans, and close bolt a shifter in it with so ECU modes.
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  268. Like he said this is still a BENZ.
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  269. At 6:45, the originals used an Independent Rear Suspension ... NOT a solid axle.
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  270. With a Twin Turbo kit :-p
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  271. Not this Generation... Unless you Only care about rear view/vision. It kills any of the other 2 in performance for the same price range. No Brand comes close to the ZL-1/ ZL-1 1LE in performance for anywhere near the same Price. Looks are Objectionable as Seen by MOST Muscle car fans thinking the R35 GTR is Fk'in Ugly.
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  272. Not really, they are great autobahn cruise, can actual seat more than 2 adults...unlike camaro or mustang. Aslo Has the best Ride of the Hi-Po models. Fyi, Redeye Pulls 0.95Gs , same as a Mustang Bullet, and only just behind a new ,siilar weight / Size... $125k M5. Doodge Never Marketed any Challenger as a Track Model Either. Dodge had the Viper for that , and it did That Better than Any Chevy Or Ford.
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  273.  @alexwalter3563  Not a Fanboy , I just tell it like it is. "How does the autobahn have to do with a racetrack?" .... You Said Dodge Only makes cars that are fast in a straight line, High Speed Driving on A Highway , Isn't always a Straight line. As for 0.95Gs , We are talking about it's Handling. " I've hit 2.3Gs cornering in my Camaro." unless You Drive a Trans Am Series You are Talking Out Your Ass ... Video Games Don't Count. Who Likes going fat in a straight line? ... Everyone. How many people Road race on the Street ? .... No One. More people Drag / Highway Race Per Day in the USA than people Road Race on A Track in 6 Months.. The proof is in the Sales #s. Even though the current Challenger is almost 12 yrs Old , It's Still Out selling the Camaro. Yes , Dodge Needs a New Challenger But Dodge Has to wait for FCA to give them a New Platform. People also Love to Forget , That the Challenger Is Alot Bigger Heavier than the Camaro Or Stang... Which is Why I Compared it to the Similar Size / Weight M5. Chevy and Dodge are Both , Going for different Type of Customers. Same with the Charger , Which Is the Best Selling Mid-Size Sedan in the USA.
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  274.  @alexwalter3563  Fanboys Only like 1 model or brand , that's Not me. I've owned Camaros , worked for Ford ... But I have No Problem saying what Faults / Problems They have... A Fanboy Doesn't Do That. Your Camaro , Is A Nascar Model ...Or are you Talking about a Lower ARCA Class? Most Nascar Races are Big / Sweeping Turn Left Only Tracks ... Nothing to Brag about Handling , No Real Corners to Speak of. Also , This video is about "Production Street-Legal Models". A RaceOnly Car is IRRELEVANT .... Just like When Chevy Fanboys bring up the Hennessey Exorsist Or Mustang Girls Bring up Cobrajet Drag Cars. Wikipedia ...sounds Like where U are getting Your info.( Like your " 300 lbs..."). Do Some research and You'd What Im Saying Are FACTS. Redeye has a Curb Weight of 4,514lbs. The ZL-1 1LE is Only 3,842 lbs. , That's 672 lb. Difference.
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  275.  @alexwalter3563  What are you smoking?? No current Camaro model is anywhere near 4,500lbs. Watch the video again .... These Are the ONLY RELLAVENT models... what I Said Is 100% accurate. " mine is Stock it's Not a racecar" , LMFAO. Last Post You said you drove a Nascar ... Now it's a Stock Camaro that pulls 2.3 Lateral Gs in the Corners ... You are FULL OF SHIT and just making yourself Look More Stupid with EVERY POST. This ZL-1 1LE has the Most Downforce And Highest Lateral Gs.... Ever in Stock Camaro , and it ONLY PullS 1.18 Lateral Gs ona Skid Pad.
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  276.  @alexwalter3563  You can Easily Verify My #'s on any Reputable Car Magazine, I got this info. from Car & Driver... and they Weigh the cars when they get them (with Fluids). So I am Correct and NO Street camaro will ever get to 2.3Gs on Street tires in stock trim. No Street car...even with 1 ton of downforce, Street Legal tires in stock trim pulls over 1.5 G's in a TURN...(FACT). FYI, I Like the Zl-1 /ZL-1 1LE and the SS 1LE... Like I said I've owned Camaro's... But I don't make up stuff... Like you FAN-GIRL. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15082238/2018-chevrolet-camaro-zl1-1le-test-review/ https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a22666271/2019-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-redeye-first-drive/ CHallenger has been in 2nd place in sales for a few years now... It actually had 1st place for a few month about 2 years ago. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1120741_dodge-challenger-outsells-camaro-in-2018-but-mustang-still-king https://www.tflcar.com/2019/10/the-dodge-challenger-just-outsold-the-ford-mustang-and-chevy-camaro-last-quarter/
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  277. The Challenger was designed and still uses Mercedes parts.... so it's not a Fiat until it's redesigned... Only Non-car guys say that.
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  278. Couldn't get it MORE, Apples to Oranges.
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  279. ??? Lol, where did you get that bad info?
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  280.  @happybuggy1582  No, he didn't create the competition.
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  281. He saidw hy , used to turnturn on/off the ... Rev - matchingmatchin featurefeature forfor non lift shifts.
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  282.  @williamjordan5554  You are FULL of JOKES and have your head UP your own ASS!, LMFAO. Only the Mustang GT has been around for the last 20yrs, (Only Fast Fords... have been limited production models, GOOGLE IT) and there isn't even a GT500 in this Video. The GT is what ANYONE that is talking about Mustangs is referring too when this video was released. Top Gear When the stig wasn't driving, and fifth gear without Tiff Needell, ALL Grand touter are a FUCKING JOKE of a car testing channel. It's as stupid as CAR & DRIVER making reviews with "ESTIMATED" performance numbers. Not to mention their Yearly VIR lap tests aren't done by a professional..like ALL their Videos here. This and all the rest just show the lack of driver skill... NOT what the car can do. ONLY Motor trend had Professionals testing the same cars on the same road/tracks over and over...but they have Their HEAD FAR UP THEIR OWN ASS/ are GREEDY POS'S and don't post anymore.
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  283. Lol, obviously you don't know much about cars.
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  284. diference between the gt500 and redeye is Less than the zl1 and gt500?? What drugs are you on? If the Gt500 Had A Supercharged Ohv 6.2 It would Be A Carbon Copy Of the ZL1. (just Fatter)The Redeye The Complete Opposite.
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  285. You get 155hp more for less money.
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  286. On the Track were it was designed to be...it did.
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  287.  @rus19297  I believe everyone Deserves the Option, the Viper didn't sell well because it was Only Manual. Dodge Demons / Redeyes , Don't have a Manual Rated/Warranted for the Torque.
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  288. The camber must be because he street drives it... AKA save the wear on the tires. As for the rack of the car... Low in the front/high in the back... that is standard to control air turbulence underneath the car.
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  289. Same car just with a different front fascia. No matter what the mustang would still lose. It gained weight while the camaro lost 200 lbs. Not to mention the mustang is $3,000 More as tested.
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  290. It's the current models....thats why.
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  291. ALL were automatics.
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  292. And in a Highway Race the Redeye says, See you later Slow poke.
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  293. It's Not in Production.
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  294. I would have to switch it over to E85.... Because I to run on Alcohol, LOL.🤣🤪
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  295. The Manual did slow it down, But the ZL1 1LE has Street legal track tires that are ALOT stickier than the POS tires on the Challenger. Not to mention the Redeye is 700+/-lbs. Heavier. With the auto the Zl1 1LE would win the drag 1/4 mile from a stop but lose on the highway (from a roll and to high speeds 125+). The Redeye is better handling with the Wide Body option... but only an Idiot would call it a Track version. New Challengers excluding the Demon, have Always been GT (Grand tourer) cars made to carry up to 5 "Comfortably"... No matter what chevy/ford says they can't. Camasro ZL-1 automatic is currently the best balance of drag/track of the ponycars. The ZL-1 1LE is the current KING of Track models... Chevy is making even the Shelby GT350R look Pathetic.
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  296. It's about the feel, the sound and having 3 other stripers in the car!
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  297. They historically were in the middle with the Gt500 (good at both, best at NONE). It looks like they are going after the ZL-1 1LE with the Next GT500 (wings, DOT track tires, track suspension, etc).
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  298. Redeye Is Only available in an automatic as TREMEC Doesn't make a Manual that is rated(warrantied) for the Redeye's torque output.
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  299. Not on the race track and Randy is the Best in the USA... Hold Many track records... More than the OLD STIG.
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  300. You know was slower? Mustang has always been a bitches car?? 1965 was called the secieretes car.. It's Still the#1 sports Car bought by Women.
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  301. If u don't have balls, buy a mustang.
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  302. It's different in the car than in these videos... Not as Loud. Hellcat to Zl1 the interior Supercharger noise level is almost the same...Zl-1 just has a louder exhaust note.
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  303. Only one is the 911...which Porsche has BEEN MILKING for 60+yrs.
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  304.  @Killer553  I do agree with your Original post. I'd love to see a Cheap road runner or a Chevelle, dart , GSX or even more luxury performance like a galaxie 500 TRUE Chrysler 300.
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  305.  @blaze376192  Yes... I have. What I said in my first post is 100% accurate.
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  306.  @gsxr1189  Never seen a school bus pull 0.95Gs ona skid pad, Lol. That equals a 480hp 5L Bullet Mustang and Only 0.03Gs behind the New AWD BMW M5.
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  307.  @gsxr1189  LOL, You are actually basing the Redeye on it's time vs. The ZL-1 1LE?? That is the Most " Apples to Oranges " comparison as you can Get. Full Racecar - Race Suspension, DOT Slicks , Real Aero/ Downforce Vs. A 672lbs. Heavier, No Aero / Downforce Car on all Season Tires. The Redeye Was Less than 1 Second Slower than the more Comperable Mustang GT W/ PP1 Package. * Mustang PP1 .... * Stiffer Suspension * More Downforce * 670lbs Lighter,Which is More for Handling / Track Times. Redeye ... Just has more Power which actually Slows It down going thru the Turns .... All over the place due to No traction when trying to Put the power down. A Wide Body Hellcat Would Run A Quicker Time . ZL-1 1LE is Slow Compared to the ACR Viper and they are More Equally Matched than this Redeye and ZL-1 1LE. ZL-1 1LE ....5 More Hp / 50 More ft-LbsLbs of torque 1,000Lbsl ess Downforce Both 6spd Manuals Both haver Race Suspensions and tires Viper is 463 Lbs. Lighter YouYo Wouldn't Call a ZL-1 1LE "Poor Handling" because it's 5 seconds Slower than The ACR around Laguna Seca? Same Thing.
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  308.  @gsxr1189  The Redeye was not designed to out track a ZL-1 and especially not a 1LE model. I explained WHY, in my Previous post. Have You Driven a reg. Hellcat? It's suppose to be an Improvement Over that... Just like the PP1 package Mustang Over a Reg. Stang GT.
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  309.  @johnjones1997bih  Ok , But even if you are talking , Styling ... If anything Honda is Coping GM. Caddy was the 1st to bring Back the severely Edgy Look , in 2003. Lambo started to lean towards That Look , But it wasn't as Extreme as the Caddy was or cars Today.
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  310. Demon was a Limited Production car and is No Longer available.
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  311. Hearing about the seats...is disappointing considered that a Business man would be in the back and not just a pair of <40lbs kids like in a Lower model. Should have had optional Hellcat seats.
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  312. Only in the regular hellcats as the only put out 650ft-lbs of torque... the input Torque limit of the 6 speed manual.
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  313. Regular GT350 isn't impressive in any performance category. Slower than the SS 1LE on track and only 0.1 Second quicker than the 71Hp Less powerful Camaro in a drag race.
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  314. They have been bought out more , Lost more than when they made tractors , Originally.... LIKE Ferrari.
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  315. It's because it block uses a 90* degree bank angle... (the block was just a Dodge 360 smallblock with 2 extra cylinders, 0.30+stroke added in 488 cid, now with just more bore and stroke ) So the banks aren't firing evenly....like a 72*degree Lambo/audi V10. 2 full rotations (720 degrees) divided by the Number of cylinders gives the Ideal layout. 90*degree v8 72* v10 60* v12
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  316.  @1mantisco  I just had to ask... I still can't believe they aren't selling alot more of them.... especially that they are faster and cheaper than the mustang GT with the Performance package.
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  317. It's Probably TREMEC... to save the DCT from breaking(Warranty). That 1 sec delay allows for it to fully engage before the abuse... But I do agree 1 sec in 2/3 sec too long.
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  318. In the 60's, 426 hemis were a very popular power-boat engine.
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  319. Much better for the street? Hellcats have a better ride and More interior room than ZL-1s but the Zl-1s are better if you like to road race on the weekends. I do think the SS camaro is the best bang for the $$$, especially one with the 1LE package. Ford messed up making the Current Mustang bigger/heavier than the last gen. GT500 is said to be 4,225lbs. That's 380lbs MORE than the ZL1 1LE, 479 lbs HEAVIER than a SS 1LE Camaro and ONLY 224 lbs. Less than a Regular Hellcat Challenger (which has an IRON Block).
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  320. marketing.+
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  321. At the Beginning when the cars are side by side the top of the doors look even, Yes from the view of the guys in the cars looking out... the camaro door is much higher. I think it's actually the seats and NOT the body/door. The redesign has an ALL New Chassis/Platform..not just body panels. True that the Challenger is out-selling the camaro, even though the camaro is only like 3 years old and the Challenger is almost 12 yrs old. Hopefully the next challenger generation is a few hundred pounds lighter.
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  322. Lambo says...190, as I saw for the jeep. BMW & BENZ , are out as they are limited in the USA.
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  323. Cheap, Fiat whats to MILK the BENZ Design/Platform as much as they can.
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  324. Also people don't realize....especially NON-Americans, how BIG the Challenger is. For Non Americans this is basically a car "slightly bigger" than an AUDI S6 but with 347 MORE HP and 301 More lb-ft of torque at the same weight.
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  325. Every Brand is Having Discounted sales (now) in Jun or before they were alot more... Also this is Canadian Money and we don't really know all of the options. You could easily add 15k<$20k+ on topend model today. True that they don't have the "Throttle control" to handle the Redeye.
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  326. This is a Pony car comparison. Corvettes are 911, viper,gtr competition.
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  327. The new Camaro did lose about 200lbs from the previous model. The Challenger is still using the Mercedes-Benz platform from 2015...Have to wait until FCA gives them a new one to use. Rhumor has it that it will use the Alfa Romeo Guilia platform which is like 500lbs lighter/smaller.
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  328. ZL-1LE , Only came with a stick and the Redeye Only comes with an Auto.
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  329. LOL, ANd if you spend the same amount OR MUCH LESS... with a Rousch, Hennessey or other "Tuner" the Supra would get Spanked even MORE.
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  330. I think Most of the Car guys on here would say a Nissan GTR is the worst looking.
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  331. ZL1 1LE, by about $ 16,000.
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  332. That's TRUE. The Redeye's trap speed is 5 mph Faster than the ZL-1 1LE's and it ONLY Grows from there. Redeye is 1 sec quicker to 150 mph. Also 1 second quicker in a highway race 60 - 150 mph.
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  333. Non-zl vs the rest was bs.
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  334. It's only available with the DCT.
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  335. Bad Gt500 Driver...with a good driver it would come down to reaction time. (only 0.1 sec ET difference ZL-1 and the Gt500 CF).
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  336. Better yet the 2020 will have a optional 7spd dual clutch transmission available for the first time ever. Too Bad Tremec didn't have it ready for the last Year of the Viper.
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  337. It's Perfect since the Redeye Guage goes to 340kph /211+ MPH;-) Goes to 203+mph...... Camaro is 800!lbs lighter than the Dodge.
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  338. Those are the only transmissions they come with.
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  339.  @darktacoyt3807  I don't like anything about the Supra and the mustang models that are anywhere as quick on a track Are more Expensive than the SS 1LE. A Mustang that can Beat One is Almost Twice It's Price.
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  340.  @sherylellingson3538  The SS 1lE doesn't have 565hp, it has 455hp.
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  341. Actual the camaro team is doing better, producing a better quality product than the Corvette team. See every Motortrend zo6 test. 3 out of 4 of them broke down. Camaro is for people that can't afford a corvette OR Need to/want to be able to carry more than 1 passenger.
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  342. I don't know what options they have BUT... Base Redeye - $78,295 Base Zl1 1LE (auto)- $72,940 BASE Gt500 Carbon Fiber - $92,495
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  343. It comes stock with a supercharger.
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  344. It's the C8's 60.6% Rear weight Bias... Vs. Only 42% for the Demon that made all the difference. Proof is in how Much quicker the C8 is Vs. the C7 which were Alot lighter. Another example of How Much more Important rear weight bias is, All you have to do is Look at the 911 And run quick with Less Hp. Also, You're Comparing 2 Different Types of cars. The Viper was the Vette's Competition ( Only American 1). Now it's Only has the Europeans to play with, Unless Ford is still making the GT.
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  345. Not Much lag at all, the turbo is twin scroll design and with VVT it's 90% of peak TQ by 2,000 rpms... But Yes it will never be as responsive as an ALL Motor engine. I also think it's over priced....your paying 15k more for the Supra Name.
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  346. A new 5.0 kicks it's A**, and never had The Supercharger whine of a hellcat. Not even the Gt500 , Eaton Blowers , Are Too Quiet.
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  347. I can guarantee it still doesn't ride as nice as a E32.. best riding BMW Every..made the E65 feel like a pickup truck. Old S8 and RS7 were the niciest Audi's I've been in.
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  348. ZL1, IS priced about the same as a Widebody Hellcat..$10k less then a NON-widebody redeye. I think it depends on what you Like/ are after. Room for people and Big HP = Redeye. Seats for 4 and handling = Zl1. Of course Looks is a big part. Owned Camaros, Dodges and Worked for FORD so there are Differences.
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  349. So you have to "MOD" it?... And if you mod the mustang, you'll right back with the same results.
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  350.  @derekstory2757  We weren't talking about mod prices, just that, IT IS , a mod....on a car that is ALREADY alot More Expensive.
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  351. It's a Pony car comparison. Dodge Viper is No more and the Only Real Ford Sports car is the Ford GT which is More than 4 Times the Price, and wouldn't be close or a fair battle/Not entertaining(1 Sided). They would have to get a Non-American Sports car for the comparison and it wouldn't be an American shoot out.
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  352. Not really... 99% ofr rich people ( in NJ USA) Just want to look , The part. Rich people don't know / Have The Balls to Push It. All so They Never Gave a Start/ Stop Mph. Wanted to Mention that , The Trackhawk's Top Speed, IS THE SAME AS THE URIUS.... 40MPH , Above Any GermanGerma Brand.
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  353. Neither is Race tires vs. All Season.
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  354.  @WhaaaaTha  True, I "HOPE" the GT500 aren't Price gouged like the Shelby GT350 and GT350R were. Aroudn me the $90k Msrp GT350R was going for $120k. Also I wished magazines/ video testers would test the same Model against each other. In that I mean "with vs. without the track pkg." Lets see how much quicker on a tack/drag strip does it go, also how much does it hurt the ride quality( as most will still be street driven). For Example, EVERYBODY tested the Z06...but ONLY with the Z07 pkg. NOT 1 tester ever tested the Z06 without the Z07 pkg.? Regular trim Z06 had a true streetable tire and better aero dynamics and probably 200+mph top speed....NOT so with the Z07 package. Hellcats are NOT the best handling but handle ALOT better than Most Youtubers realize, anybody that says they don't...Never rode/drove one. ALL Hellcat pull over 0.9 Lateral G's matching high-end RWD German luxury cars of similar weight. They may not be the quickest with the release of the New GT500, But I can Guarantee they are the most comfort riding /spacious of the 3 (shelbys/ Zl-1s/Hellcats).
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  355. Zl1 1LE easily beats the GT350R in every category ... Ride quality is a toss up. The GT350R is actually closer in lap times to the SS 1LE at Laguna Seca with Randy driving. Car & driver got.... 0-60mph - 3.5s (ZL1 1LE) / 3.9s (GT350R) / 4.0s (SS 1LE) / 4.3s (GT350) 1/4 mile - 11.7@124mph (ZL-1 1LE) / 12.2@ 119mph (GT350R) / 12.3@116mph (SS 1LE) / 12.5@117mph (GT350) On the Track it's the same 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 positions. Times are from Car & driver testing. Track times are from Randy Pobst driving for Motor trend.
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  356. Actually you do if you are still spinning the tires at high speeds. also helps with Stability. 95% of peoplepeople thatthat Drag race ... Seriously , havehave Some type of rear downforce Wing/Spoiler.
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  357. They will NEVER make a Mid-engine (ponycar)...They save that for the top tier models like the C8 corvette...and probably the Next Viper.."Hope NOT".
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  358. Not in a Roll race or in top speed. You have to define your battles. ZL-1 1LE is meant for the track and Wins there... Job Complete.
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  359. He's talking about the Chassis, The CHallenger that is still being Built Uses parts/designes that date back to OLD BENZ models. The CHallenger/Charger are STILL MERCEDES..NOT Fiat.
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  360.  @nyckae8587  No problem, Everyone, especially with new Models are learning new things. Craziest thing is that this Body style Chassis is So old and it's selling great... even had a few month last year? that it Out sold the Mustang, and out sells the much newer Camaro by ALOT. I still Wished they would go to a slighty smaller and Much lighter Platform, a 2+2 a few inches Narrower and about 6" shorter, saving about 500+/- pounds. It also needs a DOT Track tire option like what the GT500 and ZL1 1LE has, would make all the difference.
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  361. You mean... 6.2L??? The 6.4L is the All motor 392 in the Scat Pack.
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  362.  @WhiteGoldSynesthesia  No difference ... Just miss pronouncing 1 letter wrong vs. A Pair. It's as disrespectful as Prosche , with an E Instead of the A sounding ending it's Suppose To. American Company / Model's Name Is said the Company's Country Says It.
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  363. NOT, 300 and Challenger use different (Mercedes , Platforms 1 is the LX and the other is the LC). The Camaro Uses the ALPHA Platform...which was first used in the Cadillac ATS, So it's Not a Camaro. Chevy doesn't sell enough Camaros to waste money on a Bespoke chassis. Camaro has been last in Pony car sales for a while.
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  364. There wasn't a DCT transmission that could handle the Torque of the 8.4L V10 in a Front engine/RWD layout at the time it was built... So there wasn't any options...other than True automatic.
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  365. Could Go Lighter /Cheaper with a Road Runner or Super-Bee? GTX was a Luxury version.
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  366. The PP2 performance package ONLY comes with the manual.
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  367.  @randythompson4006  I was just on FORD's Site and BUILT the car in the Video and the auto is automatically replaced with the manual when you select the PP2. Sure you can replace it yourself but it won't come from the factory like that.
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  368. Actually, the lower control arms are aluminum versions of Gen 1 Dodge dakotas, also had the same 6 lug bolt pattern.
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  369.  kell m  None of these can run factory quoted numbers on the street. They only "get close" on a FULLY PREPPED Dragstrip... And then, you Need Ideal weather conditions.
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  370. Like he said it's NOT his car.
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