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Comments by "Biały" (@Bialy_1) on "Soviet Perspective: Invasion of Poland 1939" video.
@bart413 Poland got 3 millions of soldiers not 1 million but most of them were not mobilized because our allies was claiming that this gonna provoke Germany(and maybe i am wrong but i think that French were so paranoid about it not the UK). Few days after the war started French was sending to Poland fake raports with claim that French forces attacked and in them there were even providing info how big German forces they tied up with a fight. Poland got nice fortifications on its west border but because UK and France provided Germans with Czechoslovakia all that fortifications were useless because Germans were able and did attack from the south and all that positions would be very easy to encircle and destroy from behind. "second biggest economy in the world" in 1938-1939 they were far from it, during september 1939 the best German tanks were produced by Czechoslovakian Skoda and Germans got them and super strong mountain fortifications on the Czechoslovakian-German border for free from France and UK in Monachium. During Battle of the Bzura commanding German General was claiming that they were low on suplies... "Very advanced, with huge capabilities, " yea that is why Germans took 3 millions of horses with them when they attacked Soviet Union->because they were so super advanced as you can see in every National Geographic document about them. heh "lots of high schools etc." yea, that is why Poland was able to break enigma code in 1931 when France and UK was considering it imposible until Poland in the sumer of 1939 showed them Enigma replica and Polish machine that was used on daily basis to decode German comunication... "France wasn’t ready for that hit also." Poland got 3 millions trained and able to fight soldiers and France got 5 millions of people with proper training, equipment for them and in proper age. Poland, France and UK got more tanks, planes and soldiers than Germany in 1939 on top of that half of the German tanks at that time was Pz. I with 8-13mm of armor and low caliber mg as a primary wepond... Poland was simply sacrificed by western allies in hope that sooner or later German-Soviet mariage gonna end up with ugly divorce(and they were not wrong).
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@jasurbekjabbarov6891 Name who and where signed any deal with the "art student" or anyone that was working for him. Putin in his idiotic accusation never is talking who, where and when did that mythical deal that he is talking about. Also explain how the fact that the Poland took this small territory in 1938 was helpful to the Germany that would for sure want to have all that coal that was there and was the whole reson why Czechs murdered all the Polish soldiers in that territory 20 years before when that teritory at that time was mostly enhabited by Polish people...
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@seneca983 Well if you watch this video you can learn from it that the evacuation of Polish government in september 17, 1939 was one of the reasons to invade... and if you actualy know anything about history then you should know that Polish government evacuated september 19(not to mention that you need a week or two to prepare the invasion...).
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@lati long Maybe tell us more, especialy why German tank commanders in 1939 were trained in Soviet Union in "Kama tank school" and fighter pilots in "Lipetsk fighter-pilot school"? Or maybe about Gas-Testgelände Tomka? Why all the German tank were made out of Soviet metals and burning soviet oil in september 1939? Any smart explanation of that?
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@HiragaSaito1998 He is Russian not Czech... do not feed the Russian Troll! Czechs are fully aware that Poland was not part of Munich Agreement in 1938, Poland was not even there as an observer because Poland would never agree to that deal that allowed Germany to attack Poland from the south(Czech territory) and encircle all the fortifications that Poland was building on its west borders for years.
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"To be fair" Yea that is true if you using Soviet books to learn about it... Soviet murdered almost every Polish citizen that was in uniform(military or civilian uniform...). Before German attack on the Soviet Union most of the civilians that were murdered died in the Soviet part of Poland or in Siberia from hunger or cold or both as Soviets started massive deportations of Polish citizens and extermination of Polish intelligentsia asap and Germans needed to train Gestapo when NKVD had allready huge experience in this topic and that is why they were making conferences in Poland for Gestapo to teach Germans how to do it...
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It's quite bizarre for you because you clearly have zero idea what are you talking about... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo%E2%80%93NKVD_conferences And yes NKVD was teaching Gestapo how to terrorize the population because at that time NKVD was so ahead of Gestapo in this topic... People in uniforms were executed in Soviet part of Poland, soldiers, police, railway workers, post workers... Millions of people transpoted to Siberia, NKVD comming into your home 4am only 15 minutes to pack your things, no food, often not warm clothes and in the end plenty people not survived the transport or died in few weeks after they were kicked out of the train in the middle of harsh winter in the place where there was nothing build yet... "Of course, in an ideal world the USSR would not have invaded Poland. But in an ideal world there would also be no threat of Nazi invasion, " There was info in the movie about secret part of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact but clearly they never teach you in your Russian troll school...
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Just put in the search box "Who Started World War II? by Viktor Suvorov" very good explanation of the topic by ex-KGB that defected from Soviet Union and have whole book about it "Icebreaker".
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@_uncas_7485 "Плохо учился." Funny shit when you take into cosideration that both this countries started its existance after the Soviet Union colapse in 1991... Luckly using your brain during history lessons in Soviet Union or Russia is strictly forbidden. LoL
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@conda7774 Putin few years ago invented idea of ministry that will be fighting with "rewriting history"... so yea Soviet propaganda is what they teach kids in school and in 1939 according to them Soviet Union/Russia was not taking part in this war... No school gonna teach anyone in Russia about for example this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo%E2%80%93NKVD_conferences
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@sovietheart3883 "Soviets always tell the truth!" That claim from this book that Polish government evacuated 17 september 1939 is a very good example of that. For some reason in every history book in Poland you can read that the Polish government evacuated 19 september 1939...
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@Brainiaccccc Tak, Rosjanie zawsze twierdzą że my to bracia, tylko na sam koniec to się okazuje że: brat brata harata...
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How this can be unbiased if he is using Soviet sources? Would u use only bank robers opinions to write an article about that bank robery? For example in this book they claim that the Polish government left Poland 17 september 1939 and that was one of the suposed reasons for "not an invasion", Polish government evacuated 19 september 1939... two days after Soviet attack on Poland.
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@BobSmith-dk8nw Soviets promised to attack Poland 1 september 1939 hand by hand with Germany. After Germans invaded and Soviets did nothing Germans were asking them why they are not attacking... When Moscow responded that they are not ready yet and London declared the war painter in Berlin was not far from heart attack. Watch Victor Suvorov lecture about the topic 50min long... he have also whole book about it "icebreaker".
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@real-history-online "poland invaded belarussia and ukraine in the 1920's, so technically... its pretty accurate." So Poland invaded in 1920 two countries that started its existance as a country after Soviet Union colapsed in 1991... That is a good example of Soviet/Russian logic. heh Not to mention that Soviet Union in 1932 signed The Soviet–Polish Non-Aggression Pact. mr. Real History Online... ROTFL
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Single bullet into the back of the head... not wall was involved and they also did that to anyone in Polish uniform including police, railroad workers, post workers...
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@John Shepherd I would advice you to find on YT video with tittle "Who Started World War II? by Viktor Suvorov". Plenty of stuff that they normaly do not teach in history books and the guy that is doing the lecture is ex-KGB spy that defected to the west and he is explaining the topic to some US military students. Only thing that is questionable there is his opinion about Danzig, because from one hand it was Polish city for centuries before Germans came and organized massacre of local population but in 1939 majority of its citizens were Germans and like 90% of them voted for the guy with small mustache.
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@IvanIvanov-ho6rz "You should better answer yourself how Ukrainian and Belorussian lands became "Polish"" Ukrainian country started its history in 1991 and Belorussian country started its history in 1991... Even if we ignore this two important facts then we have also this one small fact that Moscow was capital of Grand Duchy of Moscow and change of name from Moscals into Ryssians do not make you more Belorusian or more Ukrainian... There is also Soviet–Polish Non-Aggression Pact from 1932 and the fact that Polish government evacuated from Poland two days after your invasion that you trying so hard to name invasion. Not to mention that plenty of Ukrainian and Belarusian soldiers was runing awey from Red Army in 1939 as they wanted to fight on Polish side with your beloved union that starved in 1933 how many Ukrainians during this planed genocide that is called Holodomor? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#/media/File:GolodomorKharkiv.jpg
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@zepter00 "I can say that I live 41 years in Poland" I live here one year less than you and it took me few seconds to fully understand this guy nick... And yes Icek was very popular name in Poland when communists did not started to change family names to hide real nationality(and that is why Icek is used as a nickname for Polish citizens that have the same nationality as the guy from the avatar)... And Szechter is real family name of the influential media personality that you can see on this guy avatar. This guy father was arested and sentenced in 1934 for spying for USSR and his brother is hiding from Polish law in Sweeden and Sweeden is refusing extradition of this criminal to Poland and the guy from the avatar changed his father family name to hide who he is and what are his real intentions(that is why it is posible that 41 years old guy have no idea who Szechter is...).
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@horatio8213 "You mean personal union between Polish Kingdome and Great Duchy of Lithuenia. That sate that Lithuenia is ruled by Lithuenian Great Prince. Poland ". Kingdome=king... and king>prince this is stuff that 8 years old kid have no problem to understand... After coronation his title was King of Poland and if there was need then they would add after that his lower rank title just to inform people why he is also the owner and the ruler of other lands. "Integration of both states" kingdom>dutchy and that is why this Lithuanian guy was living in Kraków-> the capital of the kingdom... Lithuanian nobles were promised to be treated as equals with Polish nobles and that was the core element of the whole integration. Whole idea of nationality that you are trying to use was not born yet and even after it became a thing it was not so important in case of Royal families. The best example is that German royal family that was living in London during WW2 and they simply changed that German family name to something more British to not antagonize the public opinion every time when German bomb was landing on some British roof...
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@nrw64 "GDR Knew what happened. " When 10% of country population is working for Stasi it is hard to hide anything...
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@dragonace119 "how they treated POWs." they should like Germans hold people in POWs camp with no access to food? Maybe check how many millions of Soviet POWs were staved or worked to death by Germany during WW2...
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In the end Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels printed its "Manifesto of the Communist Party" in London not in Moscow...
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@MilitaryHistoryVisualized When you take into consideration "Germania Slavica" and that even capital of Germany have its East Slavic(Polabian) etymology it is kinda strange that Germans strugling so much with Polish city names. :P
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@Viruseek1337 I'll say right off the bat that if you were unagle to notice that the book/video is claiming that the Polish government evacuated september 17 when in reality the evacuation was two days later (as the result of the invasion) then you should stop pretending that you are qualified to present Polish point of view...
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