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Comments by "Biały" (@Bialy_1) on "Russians: thoughts on Germans of WW2" video.
@cherrypi_b "The number of victims was the highest among all countries." the highest number of victims by % was in Poland and Poland was attacked by two countries and Soviet in a deal made one week before WW2 started got over 51% of Polish territory. Maybe go and find info about NKVD-Gestapo conferences in Poland and the next topic should for you should be Kama tank school (German: Panzerschule Kama)m secret training school for tank commanders operated by the German Reichswehr near Kazan, Soviet Union.The school was established in order to allow the German military to circumvent the military restrictions on tank research spelled out in the Treaty of Versailles. Apart from Kama, for the same reason Germany also operated the Lipetsk fighter-pilot school and a gas warfare facility, Gas-Testgelände Tomka...
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"Your lie about jews being the cruelest sound like what Lavrov said yesterday." funy because you also claim that "The fact you don't like to hear it, doesn't make it a lie." and the biggest problem that you have is fact that i know real history, not the whitewashed one that you are happy to spread here. NKVD was full of non-christians and in years 1939-1941 100,000 Polish christians ended up in Siberia or were executed often by your people... but let me gues it is also a lie because that do not fit your agenda. My family was living in Wołyń area and my grand grandmother was risking life by hiding people and she was doing that because she was real Polish christian woman... so what exactly giving you right to smear that accusation in her direction as your first comment clearly accuses, and thus offends all christians including my family members and it is ok because you are not Polish or Christian? I also love how two of my comment were deleted because i was not using "your people" type of writing that you hate so much and in the same time your people are the reason why christian freedom of speach is no more...
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Doktor Doof "but perhaps you are right about the Auschwitz" The best part about people like you are this complete ignorance, if Auschwitz was not in Germany at that time then why you are using German name? Polish name of that city is Oświęcim... the famous lie above this camp gate is in German, the warning signs about electric fence all over the place also have german text on them... So i just wonder how exactly you get the idea that it was Poland at that time?! Ah i forgot that in Germany media are calling them Polish camps... i almost forgot. And yes Poland got huge German minority when the war started, before the partition of Poland was not only republic with more human rights that any other place but also one of the richest countries in the world and second richest in Europe as part of huge Ottoman Empire was in Europe and they were like 3rd country behind countries that we know nowdays as China and India.
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Good luck with that and people like you. Your whole comment is solid prove that you did not learn anything from history... Germans suffered and you getting "nasty Nazi responses"? What language they are using and where is located that N... country? Do you have any clue Ms "NEVER AGAIN"?
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A.H. book was printed decade before he and his party were democraticaly elected and before the war ended it was printed in 10 millions of copies. So no, you did not need to work in the camp to be fully aware what is going on inside... you would in fact need to try realy hard to not know what is going on.
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He was democraticaly elected and decade before that he wrote a book about his fight... and from the fact that 10 millions of copies were printed and distributed all over the world i am somehow not ready to buy that story that it was somehow a secret for any normal person that was living in Germany at that time. Not to mention that the unsuccessful attempts were mostly about his bad military lidership and how he the Gefreiter with no real experience as military leader was trying to make every important military decision and often generals were not doing what they should just becauee they did not have Gefreiter permision...
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@michalperach984 "it is hard to read your comment today" vs. "The chrisitians there told the Nazis where their jewish neighbours were." You could easly shake hands with the Germans that the oryginal comment is talking about... as you are also happy to spread the lie to make your people look ok. Doing what you say was punished in that time by death by Armia Krajowa and most of the help in what you claiming was done by christian was done by your people police. There was even a joke told at that time among your people that they pray to be betrayed by christian agent because your police was much more brutal... You are talking about Second Polish Republic, the only country that opened borders for Jewish people when Germans(that is the name!) started targeting your people and your whole comment is simply whitewashing Germans and puting blame on only nation that was during WW2 by law punished with death for any help to Jewish people. Only in Poland if Jew was found in home every person in that home was shot death->and even with law so harsh many people was helping and something like 40 000 Polish citizens were executed because Germans found that Jewish people were hiding in that home->and if Polish person was helping Germans in something like that this person got 100% chance to be executed for that if his colaboration was detected(and if you know as you claim then the "christan" that you are talking here about was executed). "Operation Heads (Polish: Operacja Główki) was the code name for a series of assassinations of Nazi officials by the World War II Polish Resistance. Those targeted for assassination had been sentenced to death by Polish Underground Special Courts for crimes against Polish citizens during the World War II German occupation of Poland. " Go and read that article in wikipedia and notice that this top Germans were executed by attacking Polish citizens->nationality or religion of the Polish citizen victims was not a factor when Polish underground was sentencing this people to death.
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@Nancy-mi3xe "Commenting here is my way of saying Never Again" maybe go and try to protest against the war in your country? People homes are demolished by tanks in your country and you writing comments here about Russia and on top of that in that comment you confirming("Same with my family") story that in bast case is a half truth, because he did not even mention the nationality of christians or why they did it, because if German were for example torturing them to get the information out of them then the whole story do not look the same anymore. First mass transport to the biggest German camp of death was full of Polish people and people like you are happy to be unaware why it is the case...
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@tdrs1765 "Up from then Israel is a democracy" Germany was also democracy when Adolf was elected... maybe go and watch some documentaries made by outsiders about the topic of what is going on in your country instead of trying to spread the propaganda that is whitewashing one side and puting all the blame on the other?!
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@tdrs1765 Poland was part of the "West" from day one of its existance because "West"=Western Roman Empire=>Roman Catholic country=Poland... "lacking of democracy." the word that is important in the "West" is "republic"->in Polish there is old Polish word that you can use as synonym of word republic->Rzeczpospolita and that world was also used as synonym of "Poland". Poland was a republic when the whole west forgot how important it is and it was the case until our neighbours coluded to destroy Poland as people were runing awey to Poland to live here->that is why Poland was so full of different nations as people wanted to live in Republic where they are protected by laws! And the name of the first Polish Republic=Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów=Republic of Both Nations... Nicolaus Copernicus is a good example, by nationality he was German but when Germans(Teutonic Order) attacked Poland he was a loyal Rzeczpospolita citizen and as an administrator of Olsztyn he the native German was deffending Polish city of Olsztyn from Germans... And how exactly fact that you are from Switzerland is giving you a higher ground when Switzerland were doing bussines with 3rd Reich and profiting from German actions and imigrants that were trying to run awey via Switzerland were often kicked out from Switzerland and ending up in German death camps... You and your friend are both happy to trow claims but there is zero real historical substance in them, the whole story is as vague as posible and it is simply smearing crap all over every christian in the same time pretending that you are spreading some kind of enlightenment. So be so nice and tell me when we got elections in Poland that were not democratic and international observers(that are invited all the time) were reporting that our democracy is flawed and democratic voice of our citizens is ignored?! How many millions of Slavic Christian people werethe victims of this war and died simply because they were not German enough and an obstacle in German plan to fight for the "lebensraum"?!
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"there is really no reason for all this anger. 💛💙🤍❤ We are BOTH right. I know some christians saved jews. But others helped in the killing." I gonna give you a hint why technicaly you are right but in the same time the whole view that you are activly trying to promote is very far from the truth. 2/3 of denunciations in Poland during WW2 to the gestapo were writen in Yiddish and it is Germanic language=hard to learn for Slavic people and not a very hard to read if you are German... 90% of our non-christian Polish citizens were not able to communicate in Polish in the same time Poland got at that time huge German minority and thx to that huge number of German patrols were made out of at least one German person that was able to communicate in Polish so Polish undergound was not able to provide fake papers to some of our citizens because they were living in Poland but they did not have any Polish friends(to ask them for help with finding Polish underground and the reason for that was the language barrier. One of the most important facts why it was posible was huge autonomy provided to our Jewish community. And in the same time there was huge chance that Polish citizen of German nationality will be in first patrol that will be checking documents and that gonna end up instantly not only in this person arrest but also very nasty audition in Gestapo and after a week or two even the toughest the most dedicated people were starting to reveal names of ressistance members... You want to speak that there were bad people in Poland? Where is any news in that? Name country that have no criminals locked in prisons? And in the same name me a country that just like Poland twice in its history was a safe harbour for at least 75% of your people that was alive at that time?!
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@cherrypi_b Poland not only lost bigger percent of its citizens than anyone else but also Poland was more destroyed than any other country and after the war Soviets were geting reparations for Poland(our allies agreed to that in Yalta), Soviet Union promised that they will be spliting that money and giving Poland its share so what Soviets did? They made a deal that they will be buying coal from Poland but they will be paying special price for it not the market price->the special price that was in theory the reparation for the German damage of Poland was 10% of the market price of that coal that Poland was delivering to Soviet Union. That 10% was so little that the Polish government was not even able to pay the miners for the job so officialy Poland said that they do not need any reparations from Germany simply because the deal invented by Soviet Union was so damaging to the post war Poland(Soviets ofc ignored the resignation from reparations and for few years more they were taking the coal anyways "for free"...) For decades members of Polish underground that were one of the main reasons why Soviet Union did not lost this war when German army was standing right next to Moscow were hunted like animals after the war, murdered or locked like common criminals for a very long time(go and find on your own how many train and train bridges were destroyed in Poland on its way to Eastern front). "The Trial of the Sixteen (Polish: Proces szesnastu) was a staged trial of 16 leaders of the Polish Underground State held by the Soviet authorities in Moscow in 1945. All captives were kidnapped by the NKVD secret service and falsely accused of various forms of 'illegal activity' against the Red Army." And no if you start the fire you have no right to claim that you are the hero because you were later playing firefighter and helping to put it out. Soviet Union made that deal one week before the war to gain more territory and Soviet Union got control over half of Europe and were very happy to exploit it badly and loot what ever valuable was left there after the war... That few decades after the war are considered in Russia the golden age of Soviet Union... and it is common knowledge in Russia and how it is posible if what you said it is true and Stalin lost so much on that war? Why 3/4 of people in Russia think that he was a good leader? Red Army lost twice as much people as Germany on that war and Stalin idiotic moves were one of the most important reasons why that was the case...
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@cherrypi_b I have the need to point out that you have no right to dictate me what i can talk about and where... "Poland was subjected to enormous destruction of its industry (62% of which was destroyed), its infrastructure (84%) and loss of civilian life (17.07% of its citizens during the war). Material recompensation incurred by Germany has been estimated as approximately €1.5 billion to 2006 exchange values, which equals to about 2% of all material losses of Poland, not including enormous loss of human population of about 6 million people." And no contrary to what you claim there is zero change in German attitude, curent attacks from your side on Poland are visible all over the media and even here our Swiss friend was happy to mention how Poland is viewed in the west as not very democratic country->and he is talking directly about stuff that he can read in media sources that belong to Germans...
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