Comments by "Luredreier" (@Luredreier) on "Ireland: Why The Hell Aren't They In NATO? - TLDR News" video.

  1. 8:40 "Fellow northern European"? Ireland and the UK are not northern European. Parts of Scotland might qualify, but that's about it...
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  2.  @bobsmith5441  No, the middle of Europe is further north then you seem to think. In my view the border of "north" goes between the Shetland and Orkneys that's within Northern Europe and Mainland Scotland, Southern Denmark, etc that's all in west or central Europe. The traditional area of Slesvig might qualify as northern Europe. Arguably parts or the whole of southern Slesvig could be considered either central or north European depending on how you look at it. Frisians, Scots speakers, low German speakers are all speakers of a east Germanic language, and also have a different cultural and historical background then northern Europe. They're all also geographically south of all of us. Lithuania, Latvia, the Netherlands, mainland Scotland, Ireland, England, Wales and Germany all belong outside northern Europe. Estonia is northern European, but isn't really considered nordic by most.
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  3.  @bobsmith5441  I think we have different ideas about both north and northwest. Neither Scotland nor Ireland qualify as northwest to me, just pure west. Iceland is northwest. And perhaps you can call the Faero islands northwest. Ireland is even south of Denmark for crying out loud, and as far as pure geography goes Denmark really isn't that far north... Denmark mainly qualifies as northern Europe for cultural reasons rather than geographic ones... And Scotland... The inclusion of Denmark and various political, historic and cultural ties does mean that I can see the point in arguing including Scotland, but they're really tricky in that regard, and if you look at it culturally, they don't really qualify. Not the mainland anyway. All the time under viking rule means that there's a lot of Scottish islands that like Denmark qualify for cultural reasons in my view.
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  4. Apparently in the thumbnail of this video northern Norway isn't a part of NATO like the rest of the country. :-P
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