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Comments by "Luredreier" (@Luredreier) on "Why Norway is Shifting Right" video.
@ArkBlanc Exactly. For instance, i used to vote socialist left party but switched to the greens because Labour is failing to make enough concessions on environmental issues leaving the socialist left party without coalition alternatives while the greens genuinely can negotiate with other centrist and center right parties. And I argued for the greens to work with the conservatives in Trondheim while I lived there, and now they're in a coalition with the conservatives. That's a shift to the right. But it has nothing to do with immigration. People are tired with the big political parties in general and are slowly shifting away from them to smaller parties over time. Progress is benefitting from this, but they're far from alone in this.
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Regarding the insider trading, it's clear that our prime minister has failed to institute a proper system of actually keep that in check. Doesn't mean that he's in any way, shape or form corrupt himself. But his weakness failed to set up systems that stopped his colleagues from being corrupt or have conduct that potentially could be seen as corrupt. There's no evidence of actual insider trading, but the mere possibility is unacceptable...
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No one with any sense want assimilation of immigrants. What we need is *integration*. And Norway has done a far better job of integrating our immigrants then Sweden has. Unfortunately Swedish issues are starting to spill over to Norway. Mot because we have any serious issues with our local immigrants but because Swedish ones are free to move in here with their issues... Also, saying that Norway has handled the migration poorly is just nonsense. Sweden did because of how their immigration intersected with their housing crises and their failure to keep their rural communities alive and healthy.
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@vilem2796 Ours are for the most part trying to do their best to make the country better. They just disagree about the path, and sometimes there's incompetence involved... I'm left leaning but I've made a switch to a centrist party and hope to get a center right government in the near future because labour really has been messing up lately. They're not doing enough for the environment, inequality is continuing to increase, they've made too many sudden changes instead of taking a slow and steady approach making it harder to make predictions for companies operating in Norway. (You can do capitalism in a high tax society, but not in one where you can't plan for the long term profitability that Investors need for return on investment)
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@Sungamton I don't believe that APs issue is corruption as much as just lack of experience. A lot of conservatives has a background from the corporate world and have more experience with dealing with possible legal liability and having lots of lawyers to remind them at every opportunity... So they're perhaps slightly better at building systems that picks up issues before they're created on average in that regard I think AP people have a slightly more varied background but often only have their leadership experience from running parts of the party, and nothing else... Or if they have it's local governments and regional ones etc... Meaning that if they've never been taught about things that can help avoid issues they don't do those things simply because they're blissfully unaware...
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@Nordahl_Grieg Not exactly. The majority of the green voters in Norway are from either the liberal party (center-right) or the socialist left party (left wing or far left depending on who you ask and who's in charge) The two greenest parties in our parliament before the greens entered. And progress is the grayest party in our parliament and the conservatives the second or third grayest As a result we do have a slight preference towards a left wing government in general. But labour is messing up big time right now. And that's costing them voters as well as support from other parties. Both indirectly through the loss of voters for parties allies with it them, and directly in the sense that parties like the greens genuinely are considering working with the conservatives. Still, as a party we are slightly left of center in terms of policies. It's just not enough to rule out working with the conservatives. But any coalition between the greens and the conservatives is definitely going to see the greens as a counterweight to the conservatives, pushing in pretty much the opposite direction. We'd just do so far, far less then a party like labour or the socialist left party would. And we're willing to make compromises on economic policies as long as our main goals of environmentalism is meet. Also, the liberals who has contributed many voters to us care about the wellbeing of companies, especially the small and medium sized ones, that's been a nice counterweight within the party against socialist left party members that might see capitalism as evil to begin with. Pushing for either death of capitalism or a laissez-faire requires actual arguments, it's not just assumed as being automatically true. That leaves a lot of room for scientific evidence to do its job of swinging the vote within the party, in both directions.
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No, as a MDG voter I can confirm that we're still at 3 seats. We're the party with the most voters to seat ratio that's represented in the parliament right now. I don't really mind that as I think that the goal of our electoral system of favouring rural areas while still maintaining proportiality for parties with more then 4% is a good idea. But it definitely makes us want to cross that 4% threshold all the more...
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