Comments by "Luredreier" (@Luredreier) on "Euro 7: Europe's Civil War over Banning Cars" video.

@floppa9415 80% of all new cars sold in Norway right now is electric. If we can do it so can everyone else. And remember that electric cars are going down in price too. You definitely won't see a situation where only rich people will afford cars/electric cars. Instead you'll probably have more of the lower end electric cars being sold for a while to cater to those that wants new even if they have low income and then slowly used electric cars from richer countries will trickle down. The electric cars will also be less worn by the time those of us with less money buy them used, so apart from a change of battery we'll actually get a better used car and lower maintenance costs.
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@bcm-n7244 You guys can buy used gasoline cars from other countries still as well as used electric cars. This only applies to new cars. And electric cars are dropping in price. There's a lot of used electric cars in the Norwegian market as 80% of new cars sold here are 100% electric and about a quarter of the total (including used) cars are (more in some areas, less in others).
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@DD-y1v-g2f There's different rules that applies to existing cars. Yes, those are also tested. But these laws applies to new cars only. So cars either made in a EU factory or imported from outside the continent. If they're already sold in the EU market or if they're passed these or any previous laws in this series before at some point it won't apply. The idea is that gradually the car fleet will improve. So in Norway 80% of new cars sold are 100% electric but a bit under a quarter of cars are fully electric right now. We still have many plug in hybrids etc in circulation. It's going to take years to get rid of them all. But by being strict with new cars you'll eventually get there without being too disruptive with costs etc.
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@calebbearup4282 To they'll last far longer as you're not supporting a engine with controlled explosions in it, have fewer moving parts and less used breakes due to regenerative breaking. Electric cars won't last forever either, and especially the battery might need replacement (but new batteries might be better then the original offering more range then when the car was new). So overall electric cars is a good thing for the used car market. But try to avoid the early generation leafs and the weird truly old electric cars as they didn't have temperature regulation of the batteries or just where generally bad... Once the EVs with heat pumps starts to trickle down they'll be fine though.
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 @Member_zero Um, a Prius would be illegal with a gasoline car ban. We're talking about EVs here, not hybrids.
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@Member_zero A Prius isn't a EV, it's a hybrid. A Prius has a smaller battery so it's under more stress then a larger battery is, be that in a plug in hybrid or a fully electric car. It turns out that electric car batteries are lasting longer then expected and can be reused (and therefore sold) once they're no longer optimal for a EV. A EV battery being replaced is often replaced with a better battery as EV battery technology is improving fast and the old batteries stop being produced so new ones is used instead. That means that when you buy a used EV and replace the battery you essentially end up with a bigger "fuel tank" then the car had when new, and in some cases when the cars engines where being held back by the power delivery you may even occasionally end up with slightly more acceleration. And it might also be lighter since new batteries can be smaller while achieving the same thing. Battery prices are also dropping rapidly, and the myth that they cost as much as a new car is dated. They're still not cheap, but there's a huge difference here. As for the rest of the car, it's less worn due to the design. Less breaking needed due to regenerative breaking. No need for complex gear boxes that gets worn down. No huge complicated engine shaking with controlled explosions leading to material fatigue all over the car. You'll still have to deal with the usual suspects like rust etc of course. And EVs do add new issues like more cc computers etc. So you need to be more tech savvy to repair it. And closed source software is a real problem. But cars are being hacked and new software being written. So that doesn't have to be a huge problem. Although we definitely need to get right to repair laws updated to force car producers to open source their software. At least the critical parts...
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 @benchoflemons398 It's actually the opposite. It's climate change that hurts the poor...
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 @ivanbrezina7632 That's not just cars... It's a general inflation of everything unfortunately... And has more to do with monetary policy then car regulations...
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 @dixiedean1955 Those zones can be covered with public transportation etc. Also with less cars they're safer for pedestrians and bikers...
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 @Sivatra That is a problem with busses lacking proper air-conditioning not with public transportation as a concept...
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 @ivanbrezina7632 Even with 100% coal power a EV still pollutes less then a gasoline car if you just drive it daily for more then a year before replacing it.
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@Axeiaa Yes and no. I think that you're on to something. But also rural areas need to be electrified. But perhaps a rationing of plug in hybrids would work. People who genuinely need gasoline will buy a plug in hybrid etc even if the waiting list is 5 years. Everyone else will just cave in and buy a electric car they can get instantly.
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@istvanczap3004 Actually that depends. EVs experience less wear and tear. But when they do need repairs it's often batteries (expensive) or electronics that's complex and expensive to repair, especially because you need to know different things to repair those then a gasoline car...
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@yarpen26 And that's why we need more transfer of funding from countries like mine that can afford it. Still, I believe that what we've already sent has helped a great deal. Poland has exploded economically since joining the EU.
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 @dixiedean1955 You can tow just fine with a EV, just make sure that you find one rated for it as not all EVs are.
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@aleks5405 Even in a rural community you can plan to make costs lower. Instead of farm houses being built in the middle of a farm you can have 4 farms with the buildings in the corners of the plots close to each other with a road, electric lines, fiberoptic cables, sewage and clean water all going on the border between the farm plots. With the houses close together you can cut costs and the use a public transportation on demand service serving multiple such households. A EV on top might be needed, and can be shared between them. Likewise with 2 electric tractors shared between them instead of four diesel ones owned by each farmer seperately... And so one and so forth.
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@aleks5405 As for EVs vs Gasoline cars impact on the environment. Buying a EV and scrapping it after 10 years is still better for the environment then a well maintained ICE car. The cutoff if you're running on 100% coal power and drive daily is slightly over 1 year I believe? So yes, if you want to buy a new car and then put it on the scrapheap after less then a year a ICE car is indeed better for the environment. That said, if you are using 100% coal power a plug in hybrid actually is better then a pure EV for far longer. Perhaps that 10 year number you cited was for that? I don't remember how long it was...
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 @rudysmith1552 Isn't Bulgaria in the EU? If it is those Chinese, Russian and US cars will have to follow the same rules.
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 @eskemeldgaardkrogh4145 Busses don't have to be powered by diesel...
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@mitotakjde9763 I live in a village with a population of just 1 200 on a island with just 5 000 people, I don't own a car and don't need one. I can walk to the village center for stores and services and jobs etc and take the bus to the express boat to the closest city from another village that's connected by said express boat to the mainland. Living somewhere rural isn't a excuse for poor public transportation. Granted, for individual farms you do need cars... But that's where EVs can do the job. Now granted, this isn't ideal. I wish there where more busses. And I'm probably going to save up for a EV because it's practical in some years, but it's not urgently needed for me.
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@Member_zero No one is going to pay 20 000 USD for a new battery. I'd you have a worn battery you'll replace individual cells rather then the whole battery once the gurantee runs out. It's far cheaper. The car as a whole like I said needs less maintenance and costs less to fuel, so while the up front cost is slightly higher the lifetime cost is actually lower. As for driving, the instant torque of a EV beats the slow one of far more powerful ICE cars any day for me... And I like the low center of mass... If you want to keep a ICE veteran car that's of course your prerogative. But with time I hope that those ICE cars will be banned from regular roads and only found on racing tracks or conventions etc where people have applied for temporary permission to run them. It's not going to be a problem if a ICE car runs once in a blue moon like one of the cars from the 1800s... But they shouldn't be a part of peoples normal commute etc. Rather I'm hoping they'll be with a EV to the location in question them drive around a little bit showing it off then driven back by a EV to the garage it's stored in.
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