Comments by "Luredreier" (@Luredreier) on "What's Going on With Shipping?"
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@LackofFaithify
It doesn't matter what Russia sees or not.
This is a matter of international law.
Right now NATO is fighting a proxy war with Russia, but Russia can't legally start a war with a NATO country without triggering article 5 of the NATO treaty, because Russia attacking a NATO country would leave Russia as the aggressor, and NATO isn't at war with Russias allies as we're not technically at war with Russia, just helping a nation that Russia is fighting, and that country is defending against Russia.
However if the US where to blockade Russia that would be a deceleration of war against Russia, leaving the US as the aggressor.
That means that article 5 in the NATO treaty is invalid as it's intended for mutual defense not attack.
It would also trigger the defense clauses of Russias defensive treaties.
Landing the US not just at war with Russia, but anyone who have ever signed a defensive treaty with Russia.
And technically Russia would be justified to nuke the US without anyone intervening, as again, the US would be the aggressor.
Or mine US harbours with sea mines.
So while the US might win a nuclear war with Russia (assuming that US nukes are still operational and not going to fail due to lack of proper maintenance) but French and UK nuked wouldn't necessarily be involved in any response to Russia.
India, China etc would all just sit back and watch without acting and so one, all because Russia would be defending against American aggression.
Sanctions however are legal and peaceful.
No one can force a NATO country to conduct business with Russia or any of their allies.
Essentially what matters here is jurisdiction and sovreinity.
The US and US allies can legally decide what happens on their territory and with their companies, citizens etc.
But the moment they start interacting with others directly rather then set restrictions on what your own can do, you start running up against international laws.
Because those ships don't belong to the US or NATO etc.
Don't carry a NATO cargo.
Are not moving between NATO ports, are not operating in NATO waters except in cases where international treaties says that they have a right to do so unmolested, are not insured by NATO firms etc...
We can only legally interfere where NATO nationals, companies, territory or assets are involved...
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@louisgiokas2206
You're under the mistaken assumption that the US can manage without the rest of the world.
But the US is not capable of conquering and occupying the rest of the world.
And therefore depends on support from other nations in order to get access to the worlds resources, technology, production, security etc (yes, without the rest of the world the US would eventually be conquered, both due to lack of military as support from the rest of the world, but also because quite frankly, the US is unable to build everything the country needs to defend itself without help from the rest of us)
A big part of why the invasion of Ukraine was such a big deal was that Russia broke treaties they signed themselves.
Losing what little trust they still had in Europe.
They can't be trusted, unlike the Soviet Union.
Russia has always been imperialistic.
But they at least held their word in the past.
No empire can survive without support from their subject nations.
In Americas case we're enabling your military and economy and world reach because the global stability and rule of law is worth it.
Without our support you lose out on the ideas and technological progress of 95% of the worlds population, not to mention their labour etc.
Without our support you'll lose access to the resources of over 98% of the worlds surface.
You lose access to 74,78% of the worlds economy.
More really, because a lot of US companies only exists because of investments made by foreigners into the US economy.
The US needs the rest of the world far more then the rest of the world needs the US, even if a sudden loss of the US from global affair would be disruptive we'd eventually recover.
The US wouldn't.
It would be devastating for the US.
The US is just a small part of the world, despite its size.
And without the rest of the world the US would become essentially Russia.
A relatively large nation but backwards, with a poor economy.
And in order to get access to the rest of the world the country needs international laws...
Any international law broken by the US carries consequences down the road.
Often severe ones.
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@louisgiokas2206
You assume that military might is everything.
The reality is that the US is unable to conquer and occupy the whole world.
Yet the US depends on resources, both in the form of raw materials, skilled labour, intellectual property, education, finished products and support from allies to ensure American security and way of life.
Meaning that if the US loses its reputation the country will lose its superpower status fast, its economy will collapse, its security will fail, its military and technology will fall behind.
American weapons will no longer sell abroad, losing that subsidy to their development.
The US dollar will lose its international demand.
The US will be excluded from international trade with US factories going without raw materials, technology, machinery and so one...
Essentially, the US would lose its ability to get anything from any other nations if they can't be trusted to follow the treaties they sign themselves.
Part of the reason why Ukraine us such a big deal is that Russia showcased that they can no longer be trusted, like the Soviet Union could be.
Russia has always been imperialistic, but in the past they usually held their word.
Todays Russia under Putin doesn't.
If the US behaves the same then the US network of international treaties and alliances will fall apart.
That's the enforcement of international law.
No empire has ever survived without the support of those they rule over.
The current world order designed to benefit the US is acceptable to most of the worlds nations, mainly because they rule themselves yet still have a international legal framework, if the US doesn't respect that the country will be replaced.
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