Comments by "Luredreier" (@Luredreier) on "A Different Bias" channel.

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  3.  @bauldbill  It is democratic even if it isn't *fair*. Remember that that part has a different ethnic and religious makeup then the rest of Ireland. It reminds me a bit of what happened in what used to be southern Denmark. Prussia took those areas, they became part of Germany, the population changed ethnic makeup and identity and the place was split up between Denmark and Germany afterwards with a referendum instead of being "united and whole" as everyone wanted that area to be back in the day. Likewise with the areas that used to be a part of Finland that's now under Russian control. Democracy isn't about having the best rule for a country or even about having a majority decision being made. It's about making the most legitimate choices with the least amount of conflict over it. Democracy in essence is an attempt at finding the leaders that's the least likely to cause someone else to take up arms and start a war if they're picked as leaders and making the choices that's the least likely to lead to the country being torn apart in a civil war. The different ethnic makeup in the north caused by the UK I may add still meant that a large number of people who did not identify with Ireland would potentially have ended up ruled by a country that simply wasn't theirs in any way, shape or form. Sure, the borders where not exactly ideal... And it was a problem of the UKs own making. But fundamentally forcing Northern Ireland to stay a part of Ireland would have been just as bad as forcing Ireland to stay a part of Britain would have been democratically. Democracy is a balancing act. There's a reason why we have some nations where certain regions have more power then others compared to their population density (something that's the case here in Norway for instance) and why others have a predetermined amount of power for certain religious or ethnic groups. There's a reason why there's different types of electoral systems out there. Just taking the votes and counting who has the biggest share and calling that a day is NOT really all that democratic at all. Just look at the countries that tries to do that like the UK and US and at how messed up their political system is as a result...
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  10.  @gavinlaird85  "The Irish kingdoms were tied together true common culture language heritage etc. They were always 1 nation with its own disputed high kingship at a time when nation states like we know today hardly existed anywhere. If you believe that because we were a colony of the UK then it's proper for unionists to get there way that's one thing but democracy has nothing to do with that situation like originally stated in the video. I agree completely with your last point." No, it wasn't really. For instance there where significant minorities there of Viking decent. Dublin was founded by Vikings. They did NOT have the same culture and heritage as the rest of you. And even if you look at the rest of the kingdoms I doubt that most people back then felt Irish. They most likely felt like Leinsters or Munsters etc, etc, etc. The situation isn't that different from the germanic tribes. Germany, Austria, Switzerland, the Netherlands, significant areas within countries like Russia etc all had a common west germanic heritage. But that doesn't mean that they all actually felt "German" even if many saw them as the same people from the outside. Hence why the English word for people from the Netherlands is "Dutch" the word that was traditionally used for all west Germanic people in English, including for instance people speaking Pennsylvania Dutch (it's German with no Dutch influence at all, but the language got its name back before Germany was a nation when the word was used for the whole "ethnic group" and all its nations). Also, in this case the minority in question isn't of that ethnic, cultural and religious group at all, but where in fact settlers from Scotland etc who had lived there for generations by now. Your talk about Scotland being a nation before joining the UK etc as a excuse for why they should have self determination but the people of North Ireland shouldn't is just selecting opinions to suit your interests instead of on any kind of actual principles at all, and you know it.
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