Comments by "Luredreier" (@Luredreier) on "Louis testifies as witness in Norway trial." video.

  1. While that probably played a role that wasn't the whole reason. If the conversation had been perfectly transferred they wouldn't have had any problems with him talking fast at all. We're used to fast paced English media everywhere here in Norway. The issue was mainly a poor quality conference call...
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  2.  @Soclever  Probably into the building. But I'm guessing their wi-fi was 2.4 GHz only and archaic as heck...
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  3.  @soundninja99  Eh, generally they do just fine actually. Especially on the comprehension side. Actually speaking in English is a different matter. Remember that everyone here is exposed to English media on a daily basis, but not necessarily in a interactive form, so we might watch, listen to or read something in English, but we don't write or talk nearly as much in English a we listen, read and watch in English.
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  4. Remember that you're listening to a OBS recording on his side. While they're listening to a skype call through a court wi-fi and a pair of budget speakers and a budget mic... Try listening to a second language spoken by a fast speaker about a highly technical subject that isn't in your own field of interest through speakers that's less then stellar after the signal has been compressed and gone through a crappy wi-fi and see how good you would do...
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  5. Not sure. On one hand I'm sure they've had plenty of issues with tech and are fed up with it. But with that said, Apples market share in Norway is quite a bit lower then US market share. So I wouldn't be surprised if no-one in the court actually own a Apple product.
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  6. Ja, akkurat... Uff, synes synd på dommerne og de andre der... Lydkvaliteten må ha vært forferdelig.
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  7. Well, from what I understand he won the first court case and I think this was Apples appeal. But yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing the result.
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  8. Nah, a translator would do more harm then good in this case I think. Translators generally don't know enough about computer tech. And honestly the judges and others understood things just fine when they could hear him. The issue was technical with digital distortions and also just him talking way, way, way too fast. He didn't need to slow down as much as he did when he slowed down, but he didn't maintain the lower speed despite being asked multiple times to slow down. It sounds like they did a decent job for the most part. They're not used to talking in English. But their comprehension was just fine.
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  9. That wasn't the issue at all. They handled that just fine, except relying on Skype in the first place...
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  10. Yeah, sorry but this was the appeal I believe, not the original.
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  11. Him talking fast wouldn't have been a issue at all if he was actually sitting there instead of talking with them over skype... Their comprehension of English is way better then their accent. That applies to most Norwegians. I don't speak any better then any of them. But I do believe that you can understand what I'm writing here...
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  12. That really wasn't the issue. The issue was that corporate conference calls generally have garbage quality. So try to understand a language that's a second language to you spoken by a fast speaking native language speaker about a topic that's not a topic of interest to you over a bad wi-fi through low end speakers and mic with sound distortions the length of a typical New Yorkers sentences and see how you would do...
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  13. English being as second language for them probably wasn't as much of a issue as the conference call quality was...
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  14. Calm and clear and 4x normal speed through a skype call of a low enough quality to blank out whole words even at normal speed with sound distortions...
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  15.  @delinquentdesign  Not funny...
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  16. No, they didn't. This was a skype call. But what you heard was his OBS recording on his end. In other words without all the audio distortions that they where hearing...
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  17. The goal is to get to the truth after all.
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  18. Sorry, "ELI5"? I'm not familiar with that reference...
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  19. They're not blind. They are however listening to him through a crappy corporate skype call...
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  20. Let's see, how many stars should we give them? clicks 1 star
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  21. On his end where OBS was recording his testimony, yes... Not so much on their end...
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  22. People should be proud of their accents and dialects.
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  23. Yes, thank you... That's so true.
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  24. Yep. Especially when they clearly state that there's issues with the call quality...
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  25. Yeah, gotta love Skype... -_-
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  26. @MarsSheep Um, no, they never asked about that in this video.
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  27.  @aorusaki  Hum?
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  28. Now that is something I can agree on... That said, it would help if our court system wasn't so underfunded...
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  29. Perhaps. But honestly the main issue was just Skype...
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  30. This was a corporate Skype conference call done in what was a second language for them talking about technical stuff. I repeat skype conference call do you have any idea about how much corporate Skype conference calls usually suck? So yeah, they understood the tech well enough, they didn't hear him well though.
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  31. Problemet var ikke Engelsken, problemet var Skype samtalen som sannsynligvis også var over wi-fi...
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  32. Their English comprehension was just fine. Their issue was a crappy skype call...
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  33.  @irvalfirestar6265  looks unamused
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  34. How so?
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  35. The default in Norway is open trials although there are exceptions. That said, you're normally not supposed to film people without their expressed consent in Norway. And in open trials the media usually uses sketch artists instead of filming. So not sure if they're thrilled about him sharing this video.
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  36. Nah, they really wouldn't have had any issues with him speaking that fast if the audio quality wasn't godawful... Them wanting him to speak slowly was mostly meant as a mitigation for that, not because talking fast is a issue in itself for them.
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  37.  @Zimmerh90  Exactly. Thank you.
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  38. Yep.
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  39.  @Lalitaditya100  To put it this way, I'd rather be judged by a above 60 Norwegian judge then a below 60 judge in most other countries even on tech specific topics...
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  40. That would have been nice...
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  41. Yeah, the main issue was probably just the skype call... They complained about audio distortions multiple times... So, yeah...
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  42. This wasn't about them not knowing enough about computers. It was about them talking with him over a skype call first and foremost.
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  43. How so? May I ask what differences you noticed?
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  44. Nah. He speaks too fast for a laggy skype call, regardless of who he was talking with... If he had been sitting there they'd have zero issues with his speech, I promise you.
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  45. Yeah, a skype call probably wasn't ideal...
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  46. Yeah, that said, A would probably have been a non-issue if there wasn't for B...
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  47. @5tormwolf92 Sorry, what?
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  48. I have no idea... Perhaps there's no better option out there for them that is also available to most potential witnesses?
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  49. Hovedproblemet var nok WI-FIen deres og dårlig lydkvalitet i deres ende...
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  50. Yep. And honestly they probably wouldn't have minded that if the audio quality wasn't so bad on their end...
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  51.  @LPikeno  You where watching him on a OBS recording on his end, not the Skype call from their end after going through a awful court Wi-Fi on budget speakers and headphones...
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  52. You're misidentifying the issue. The skype call was absolutely crap quality... This video was recorded on his side.
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  53. Yes, kind of my thoughts on this to be honest...
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  54. They didn't see him at all. In their end it was a audio call only.
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  55. Good one. ;-)
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  56. Or you know normal people who just happen to be listening to a New Yorker talking of a crappy conference call...
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  57. You're too paranoid... The Norwegian justice system cares very little about actually punishing people.
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  58. Yeah, honestly that would probably have been a better option...
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  59. Yep, pretty much... :-/
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  60. They could probably translate it just fine if he was actually sitting there instead of on a skype call... Just saying...
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  61. Yes, there was something with their audio. They commented several times about audio distortions... And they're using corporate skype. (And they're probably using court wi-fi too, something that's not helping matters)
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  62. Yeah, and he's speaking as fast as some people drive when they lose their license due to speeding... -_-
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  63. Yes, that was what I was worrying about too. It's technically illegal to film people without their consent here even in public (you need to do something to hide them like apply a blur over them if you want to share those videos) from what I understand. That said, courts are a bit different. News agencies usually use sketch artists to draw people in court when covering legal cases as they're free to be present and report anything that is said but are required to keep all parties anonymous etc. Then they may have a interview with the prosecutors and lawyers if desired outside of court. The judge may also close the court to media in some situations. In this situation I would suggest that he'll ask the lawyer who asked him for his testimony though.
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  64. The internet quality was probably just fine into the court house... Now the corporate skype call quality and the internal wi-fi in the court on the other hand... Yeah.... That might have been more of a issue...
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  65.  @Loftikaz  There's no need to say "stfu". I live in Norway, I really don't think she minds that people here think that was funny. It was a fun situation, and it's ok to think so as long as people laugh at the situation instead of laughing at the people involved.
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  66.  @Argosh  Well, to put it in perspective. I've had English classes every school week since I reached the age of 6 to the age 18. The number of classes pr week varied from a low of just 2 pr week during parts of that time to a high of 6 classes of English pr week at the peak (two sets of 3 classes in a row at two different days) I'd say that 4 classes pr week was probably the norm for most of my time in school though.
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  67. Yep...
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