Comments by "Al Loomis" (@alloomis1635) on "Katie Halper"
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yer way too late. aristotle boiled politics down to 2 words: "who decides?"
when the people decide, through referendum and initiative, you live in a democracy, and are citizens.
but you don't decide, it's not a democracy, and you are only civilians.
you should know this, but you don't. no accident, your schools are training camps.
worse yet, you don't have the community spirit that would bond you together to overthrow the elite. that's no accident either.
freedom! freedom! freedom! if you worship freedom, you are alone, and alone you can do nothing in politics. the greeks called such people 'idiots'
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a sane and ethical jew! who knew?!
the original invaders, with ben gurion and jabotinsky, were clear about what they were doing. "we're strong, you're weak, flee or die!" in order to do that, you have to re-classify your victims as sub-human, not entitled to life or property. from there, only hatred can arise, in response to contempt and oppression.
once you are on the tigers back, it is dangerous to get off, or so it seems. that hatred is a wound spring.
it's been done, in south africa, in the usa, with mixed results.
but israel has a special problem, widespread sympathy for the nazi crime, and usa support as a base in the middle east, makes apartheid seem viable, long after other conditions would have compelled some equitable settlement. 'equitable' is perhaps too kind, israel should not exist. but it does, so let's move on, as best we can.
i recommend the creation of a secular state of palestine, directed by a u.n. agency, charged with unwinding property and building a workable administration. human tights violations have to be ignored. otherwise no hope of peace.
this would entail the dissolution of israel. however well deserved, seems unlikely.
but what else will cure the israeli situation.
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one of the good things about democracy, is that public activity must be done in public, through referendum, so that the citizens can give/withhold assent, or issue a veto with initiative. result is honesty and sanity tend to characterize decisions. it's hard to be crooked or stupid when you are watched.
'democracy' is constantly heard in the west, but never seen. the word has been gutted, because of the necessity of using the word while doing theft or murder. nowadays it just means, 'we have elections!' which have zero effect on gov activity.
there is very little actual democracy among nation states, the swiss used to come close, but i suspect the embrace of the e. u. is proving to be irresistible. the rest of you zombies don't even come close.
nato politicians are politicians. they do what profits their career. for many, it's 'shoulder-to- shoulder' with equally corrupt and much more powerful usa politicians. those that are 'out-of-step' are equally corrupt, but happen to see more power/money in resistance.
you would think all of humanity, minus politicians and plutocrats, would stand up and demand democracy. it is currently necessary, not merely desirable. politicians are driving humanity off a climate cliff.
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suppose for a moment that usa was run by a caste of quasi-sociopathic thieves and murderers.
now look at the actual ruling group? can you tell the difference?
i can't. i participated in yer real live genocidal war crime, usually called 'the vietnam war.' some canadian complained about what he saw in a place called 'mylai,' and nobody went to jail, although the field commander did a couple of years in barracks while they waited for the blaze to subside. 'saint' jimmy carter actually spoke up on his behalf, presumably because he saw some votes in it.
about 350 women and children, machine gunned in a ditch.
i began planning to leave, at that point, i don't know how you can endure the shame.
the thing is, the government has always been evil, and it shaped the whole nation to be complicit.
fortunately, while the nation is capable of any crime, the people in it are incapable of much planning, beyond divvying the loot. we can reasonably expect collapse will be sudden, and not long in coming.
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there is a chance the bungle-on-the-capitol was a cynical exercise in preparation for drastic collapse of civil 'rights.' in favor is the obvious lack of brains involved, it was not meant to achieve anything but fear in the easily disturbed. against, is the consistent lack of intelligence throughout the trump interregnum. take yer choice, because it doesn't matter.
the usa government is evil, but so corrupt that it is evil out of character rather than plan. they bite themselves, often.
the usa constitution was written to keep the rule of the nation firmly in the hands of the 'betters.' it is consequently not responsive to the state of the nation, for the rich are the last to suffer. and the national education has been drawn to support this goal. the people are cattle, capable of the 'bungle,' incapable of citizenship, much less revolution.
i wouldn't give a damn, but the aristos who direct that ship of state make war for profit and plunder the environment for profit, and are a danger to us all.
the usa should be blockaded, all trade stopped, no visas issued.
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what's in a name. italians, like other sane people, don't like their government. so they try them out for awhile, and get sick of it, and flip a coin for something new. it's often done peaceful, nowadays, that's encouraging.
unfortunately, it's never new - it's just another gang of politicians.
the 'get sick of it' part happened over-night in limey-land, and my guess is this lot will be on the nose in a year as well.
won't do any good, though. homo sapiens is just too stupid to see the use of democracy. it's genetic - several hundred thousand years of selecting for survival by saying "yessir!" to alpha males has marked our genes.
the situation is not quite hopeless. there are sparks of proto-democracy here and there, although the continual use of the word for non-democratic societies is a deep worry.
extinction is on the horizon, we may get a temporary reprieve from mere civilization collapse, whether from climate or war.
should be lifting our game, but it's more of the same.
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difficult to argue with mr hedges, but what tyrants love to hear is "give peace a chance."
i estimate that this conflict has begun because of the expansion of nato, which has rolled over the former members of the ussr, one by one. nato is an imperial organ of usa foreign policy. it's nice that they use bribery instead of bullets, but usa is extending an empire, even so. and they promised not too, many years ago. liars to the core, everyone.
finally, putin feels threatened, the wolf is at the door, so he starts shooting
think of it as a much-battered wife, unable to fend of with muscles, so she picks up a gun and makes a winning argument, for a change.
putin is no fool, unlike recent usa presidents, and i suspect he struck back reluctantly. but the di is cast, and we all wonder how this turns out.
since falling into the hands of billionaires, ukraine has become the poorest nation in europe. there should be a lesson there, but homer sap is just too dim to understand the need to get democracy, at any cost. no shame in that ignorance, it is general, and the usa suffers from it. as a result, their masters have license to harrow the planet to feed their greed.
there is no virtue on either side of this conflict. johnny, don't get yer gun.
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it's not just jews vs muslims, israelis vs palestinians.
it's also the evil empire maintaining a client state in the middle east. vietnam, iraq, afghanistan, and currently ukraine are all part of empire-building, lately with money rather than soldiers.
they are trying to include taiwan in the program, but that could really blow up.
usg doesn't care, they are just cynical careerists who will be far away and richer when things get bloody.
i feel a little sorry for young people. they are a generation who will watch human society collapse, painfully.
plenty of blame to go around, but the top of the list should be the usa. khomeini was laughed at when he characterized usa as 'the great satan,' but he saw clearly, even if his language was unfashionable.
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nato is a military pact, aimed at ussr, and now, russia. it has advanced by buying governments, simply bribing officials to sell their nations to usa commercial interests.
this commercial war has rolled up to russia border.
putin finally decided 'too far,' and went for the gun. think of him as a much-beaten wife, who decided to shoot the bastard.
will he succeed? quien sabe? but unlike the last two usa 'leaders,' he appears to be sane and well-informed.
would ukraine, the whole society, be better off as an independent buffer state?
very likely. since it came under the control of billionaires, ukraine has become the poorest nation in europe.
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no erosion, the establishment of israel was a process of 'buy, frighten, shoot.' from the beginning. the intent was to build a jewish state, current occupants, largely muslim would have to leave.
with near-success, the jewish bandits have started to white-wash their elders. 'this was always israel, we just took it back." if this principle was followed everywhere, the last human standing would feel he had to shoot himself in the head.
and it suits the usa to assist. for no cost, in principle, the politicians get large chunks of usa jewish money for their election expenses, and their grandchildren's university fees.
it was an invasion, it is an invasion, and israel has located itself on a bomb-sight.
no immediate danger, middle east nations have been too busy dealing with cia plots, ethic hatred and historical violence, and no one is capable of troubling israeli military..
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aristotle was smarter than you. he wrote a book about politics, classical hellas was chock-full of politics, and he came to several important conclusions:
the fundamental question to ask about any society is, "who decides?"
depending on 'who decides,' various labels appear, 'aristocracy' is rule by the best. monarchy is rule by a king, timocracy is rule by the generals, autocracy is rule by one, and democracy is rule by the citizens.
usa is an aristocracy, although many would argue that politicians are not the best of humanity. others would contend that they are, particularly when they are, or seem to be 'the people's choice.' regardless of your opinion on this matter, the president, congress and supreme court rule the nation. certainly not the people.
so the usa is not a democracy. consequently, when you hear someone say, "we need to do away with the electoral college," or "they should limit the term of justices," you are listening to a child dressed in his parent's clothes, or a fool, or a cynical liar intending to fool you into believing your opinion is valuable, when it is not.
you have no formal input into the management of your nation. politically, aristotle would call you one of several disparaging words, but a not a 'citizen.'
among those various kinds of political society, aristotle came to the reluctant conclusion that democracy was best. only because the others were worse.
democracy is not unknown in the usa, several states have democratic constitutions and use them. but most of the people in the usa are simply not citizen quality.
elites always rot, usa aristocracy is typified by donald trump.
thing won't get better, the materials are not there.
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usa is not a democracy, so you don't have rights. you have privileges, offered as bribes when some politicians needs more votes, and withdrawn when he doesn't need them.
ignorant, passive people will be ruled by some elite, whether born aristocrats, military junta, or political gang. in the usa, it's the gang.
if you want a better life, you have to be part of the ruling group. for most people that group can only be as the citizens of a democracy.
but how to get democracy?
you can't get it by voting for politicians. the transfer of power must come outside the laws of the nation. the laws maintain the power of politicians.
revolution need not be violent, but it does require a lot of people willing to say, "or else!"
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usa gummint is the usual sort, staffed by sociopaths and nudged by narcissist plutocrats. that's homer sap for you..
the plebs get on with their lives, however they can. it's getting harder lately, because the rich are maintaining or expanding their take from the national income, while the national income is under pressure from prc and other resistant nations, notably iran and russia.
only an active, large and well-organized popular movement can shake the status quo, none in view. usa peeps are ignorant, cowed, genuinely desperado. whence the endemic crime and occasional mass murder.
i wouldn't give a damn, except the looming climate crisis threatens every living thing on earth, and the orcs who run usa are making it worse.
anyone who is remotely surprised by this bolton brag simply hasn't been paying attention. the classical greeks had a word for it, that's where we get 'idiot.'
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when are usans going to admit that they do not live in a democracy. that's a rhetorical question, no question mark. never, appears to be the answer.
so long as you submit to the rule of politicians, this is what you get, and deserve.
democracy is possible. but it needs citizen quality people.
they seldom occur, in an oligarchy.
in an oligarchy, people grow up with a submissive character, never imaging that ordinary people can run a nation. a 'catch-22' situation, oldies would say.
but, begging your masters for kindness never works, and they always fall farther into corruption of character, leaving behind any sense of fairness or duty.
so finally there there will be brutal repression, because no one gives up power easily. this wouldn't matter, but this time over-population makes poor social management fatal.
if you are young, you may wish to organize a revolution. the oldies aren't going to leave a livable space.
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@johnriverdavis3497 the principle of democracy is that public activity goes on in public, and is directed by the citizens through referendum and initiative. there is literally no 'government,' only public clerks working openly and without power until directed by the citizens.
currently that is only happening in the confederation of helvetia, among nation states, and not an ideal democracy even there.
the swiss were notably independent during ww2, shooting in both directions, as required. but i suspect the embrace of the eu may have more effect than the nazis, the swiss have had to bend a bit more than their grandfathers did.
the swiss evolved into democracy, and retained politicians. so not a perfect demonstration of democracy. we only have homo sap to work with.
the important point in the beginning of any discussion of political systems, is that electing politicians to rule you is not democracy, not even close.
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no legitimacy? putin is doing on a small scale, what usa does on a grand scale.
but usa does murder for profit, putin is afraid russia will be nibbled to death using salami tactics.
usa/cia took pride in installing a billionaire president in ukraine, since then the rest of ukraine has fallen into poverty. well done, cia, making the world submit to wealth.
i am not surprised usa is 'shocked' at putin's action, but it has nothing to do with affronted morality, you are only surprised that someone would dare to confront the evil empire in arms.
putin has gambled the farm on saying "no mas." to usa. if it goes badly, he'll be dead, one way or another.
but it appears he has won. like north korea, he has put his pistol on the table, and it's a much bigger gun. usa/nato has folded. words will continue to be said, and the nazis of ukraine will go on fighting for awhile, but ukraine has been saved from the dark side, again.
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the monarchy is a problem. its mere existence means the management of the nation is done to please the monarch.
but getting rid of the monarch does not bring democracy. the power to rule just moves from monarch to politician, or dictator, or military junta.
getting democracy is much harder, than shooting a king. you have to get a populace to stand up and announce, "we are now citizens, and rule our nation with referendum under the control of initiative."
look around you. do you see a nation capable of being citizens of democracy?
it is too hard for homer sap. the tribe is raised in submission to alphas, from days on the african savanna right up to today. that's not just habit to break, that is genetic inclination.
it's not impossible. the swiss still have some kind of proto-democracy, many usa states would be similar, if independent. but that similar is 100 years old, without further progress, and impotent against the power of the federal nation.
so the hairless ape is going to let the alphas destroy the planet.
fermi wondered why the radio spectrum was not filled with communication from the stars. it's because critters that can make radios destroy themselves with powers beyond their control.
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