Comments by "Leonid Shnaider" (@leon19736) on "Palestinians: What should happen to someone who leaves Islam?" video.
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@stream2watch 2 million Arabs in Israel are doctors, lawyers, parliament members, judges, high ranked police officers, Actors, TV hosts, ministers in the government, diplomats, generals in the army, professors at Universities. That is indeed Apartheid ?
Israeli Arabs are the most educated, have a higher standard of living, more personal and political freedoms then in any Muslim country....When offered to some villages to become a part of a future Palestinian state, without moving, just by redrawing border lines which would put them inside the proposed Palestinian state, they refused.
Attacked by many countries , overwhelming odds: Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Jordan , Lebanon all sent armies! Israelis fought for their lives. Fight for the lives of those at home for surely they will be murdered, raped, pillaged and destroyed. That's what Jews did in 1948.
_ “Palestine shall be consumed with fire and blood if the Jews get any part of it.”
Declared on November′
r 24, 1947, by the Acting Chairman of the Palestinian Arab Higher Committee, Jamal Al-Husseini
"--This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of
LIKE THE MONGOLIAN MASSACRES "
Arab League general secretary, Azzam Pasha, declaration when 7 Arab armies attacked the defending Israel in 1948
When you make war and lose, you lose territory.
The Palestinians have absolutely no one to blame but themselves because they refuse to give Israel any options other than occupation.
If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel
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@stream2watch "In time of Apartheid could black people vote, have parliament members , be generals in the army, high ranked police officers, diplomats, professors at Universities, judges, managers? Like 2 million of Arabs in Israel."
These are not the definitions of apartheid. These are red herrings.
Can citizen of Eastern Jerusalem vote over the people that have the violence monopoly over them? No they can't. Can a Palestinian resident there take the IDF to court in Israel? No they can't. Who has the legal power over Jews in the same area? Israeli courts. This is the definition of Apartheid. Same area. 2 different legal systems.
Again you fail. You are unable to cope with fact that 2 million Arabs have the same right like Jews in Israel, so you look in other complicated area.
In mind of vast majority of the people around the globe Israel having the same rights for Arabs is not Apartheid. People in East Jerusalem voted to Palestinian authority parliament and they could vote to city council of Jerusalem. Courts in Israel will treat them the same like Jews and they can take Israeli soldiers and police officers to Israel courts. They will get the same treatment like Jews. Looks like you live in your own invented lies.
"""""""""I stand corrected on the official EU stance on Israel being an apartheid state though, but give it time. You have no friends here, except for some weird right-wingers in the East. They could just as well turn against you though, so be careful in who you call your friends.""""""""
If what you wrote would be true you would bring many references to expressions on European leaders on Israel. But you brought none, because they don't exist. Israel is loved, respected and admired country in EU unlike for example Turkey, Russia and Belorussia. Israel doesn't need your stupid validation and opinion on its position in EU. It is enough that you brought zero evidences and references to your claim that EU see in Israel Apartheid state.
By the way why don't you blame Arab countries in being Apartheid states that doesn't provide citizenship to grandchildren of Palestinian refugees who were born in those countries and has so many discriminately laws against Palestinians. Why don't you blame Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, Golf countries, Syria, Tunis as well? Judging Israel on different standards is definition of Antisemitism which is defined by UN . Again some one anti-Semitic blame Israel in being Apartheid. That is funny. May be Neo Nazi will also blame Israel in being Apartheid. Should i listen to Neo Nazi as well and adopt his opinions?
""""""""So your whataboutism still stands? You get to gag and tie down 80 year old Palestinian Americans, then abandon them on building sites when they have heartattacks because """"""
Thank you again for confirming that this guy wasn't killed, but died like any old people die. That could take place in any country around the world that stopped old man and he died while being stopped by police. It happens in USA and Europe every day. Any country around the world. Again judging Israel differently and on different standards than any other country is definition of antisemitism by UN. Some one anti-Semitic tries to teach Israel his morale and blame in being Apartheid. That is pity and funny.
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@stream2watch Again you failed to provide any references to European leaders claiming Israel is Apartheid state. That was your initial claim.
You claimed that EU consider Israel as Apartheid and i asked you for references. You failed to provide any references that support your claim that EU consider Israel as Apartheid . Instead of this you bring irrelevant staff that EU disagree for changing 1967 border. I asked you provide references on Apartheid, you change topic to state of Israeli Universities cooperation and 1967 border. You lost.
But one thing you mentioned and this is BDS. Presidents and prime ministers of USA, Canada, Germany, UK, France , Australia, Italy and Spain expressed on BDS and claimed that this is Anti-Semitic organization with a goal of destruction of Israel. German parliament defined BDS as anti-Semitic. But even before i said that treating Israel on different standard than any other country is definition of anti-Semitism by UN. And that it is funny that some one who is anti Semitic will claim that Israel is Apartheid
'''''''''''''''''"We hate your alt-right state. We have as intense dislike for you as we have for evangelical god-botherers. That is the difference between us and Americans."'''''''
I got it. You like Islamists and Islamic radicals. You love Hamas , Hezbollah, ISIS, Muslim brotherhood. And hate Israel and Jews in Israel.
I have never heard that Israeli Universities had any problems in Europe and Elbit have problems with European authorities. You live in a fantazy land .
Israel has great relationships with majority of EU countries. There are disagreements , but that is normal. Nobody consider Israel Apartheid.
""""""" "they could vote to city council of Jerusalem"
Thank you. Point proven. That is apartheid. If they are in an annexed area yet are unable to vote in the nation that have annexed them, it is apartheid.
" they can take Israeli soldiers and police officers to Israel courts."
Can they enforce the right of return :)""""""
Voting of Palestinians in East Jerusalem was agreed by Palestinian leadership in Oslo agreement. They voted to parliament of Palestine. That was international agreement between Palestinians and Israel. Other Palestinians vote to Palestinian Parliament and for Palestinian president as agreed by Palestinians in Oslo Accords.
There are many countries that have right of return: Germany , Greece, Armenia, Estonia, Russia, China, Finland. Why don't you call to those countries Apartheid as well???
Palestinians took many times soldiers and police officers to millitary or civil courts. And soldiers went to prison for mistreatment of Palestinians . It happened many times.
Take a geography lesson, learn to read, acquire some critical thinking and fact checking skills, then come back when you have something relevant to say.
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