Comments by "Leonid Shnaider" (@leon19736) on "The Real News Network"
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Yes Gaza is prison with a beaches, malls, markets, banks, roads, cars, buses, hospitals, schools, squares, movie theaters, pools, mosques, zoo, boats, street celebrations, restaurants, internet, TV, hotels, parties, football stadiums, universities, Pal police and pal court system, government and Pal prisons, unlimited supply of food, access to Egyptian border. What kind of prison is this? I have never heard about prison with a beaches and malls.
Egypt is Arab Muslim country that has border with Gaza. Why you don't blame Egypt? Why it is only Israel guilty? Why?
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"Ilan Pappe, a history lecturer at the University of Haifa, freely admits that, in his view, facts are irrelevant when it comes to the history of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. "Indeed the struggle is about ideology, not about facts, Who knows what facts are? We try to convince as many people as we can that our interpretation of the facts is the correct one, and we do it because of ideological reasons, not because we are truthseekers," Pappe said in an interview with the French newspaper Le Soir, Nov. 29, 1999
Ilan Pappe is an ex-Israeli, ex-historian. This guy was expelled from his Israeli university post after he was found to be fabricating historical data. Pappe's books have been critiqued by many since his evidence is based on half-truths, falsified facts and wishful thinking. He makes a living by giving talks to both left-wing groups and other Saudi Arabia-funded organizations.
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Well, the World is becoming a very strange place. In Paris, for the first time since WW2, the Army is patrolling the streets. Beheadings, knifings, multiple rapes, bombings, truck attacks and attempted murders occur daily In Berlin, Nice, Munich, Cologne, Hannover, Brussels, Stockholm, Malmo, Vienna, London, Rotherham etc. Alot of violence occurs that is SIMPLY NOT REPORTED by the Mainstream media.
The reality is that most of Western Europe now looks suspiciously like Jerusalem. In this situation, "lets create a democratic secular state" vision looks ridiculously out of date.
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I love you question. Most of the Arabs and Arab supporters on the internet are very general and vague.
Once i ask them specific questions, it make them to feel very uncomfortable .
I can bring you many many reasons with some of them you will not agree. Gidon Levi is a very general and vague in his speech in this video. Nothing specific. Very general accusations.
The fact that those 2 Jews want Israel ceased to exist is probably the main reason why they are crazy.
Fact that they support BDS is already say that those two are crazy.
Even political author-activist Norman Finkelstein – a noted advocate of the Palestinian cause – has branded the BDS movement “a hypocritical, dishonest CULT” and said in a recent interview that BDS is “not really talking about rights. They want to destroy Israel.”
Did you listen both this guys in other videos?
Do you know that in 2000, 2001 and 2008 Israel offered 95% of the occupied territory to Pal and 5% additional is from Israeli territory? Palestinians answered with a war that killed more then 1000 Israelis mostly civilians.
The Arab Palestinians rejected a country of their own in 1947. Why? Because they wanted ALL of the land. NONE for the infidel Jews. At Camp David in 2000 Barak offered Arafat almost everything he had demanded - a state with its capital in Jerusalem, control over the Temple Mount, return of all of Gaza & 95% of the W Bank, and a $30 billion compensation package for refugees. Intermediary at the talks, Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia to Arafat: "take the deal"..."I hope you remember, sir, what I told you. If we lose this opportunity, it is going to be a crime...Either you take this deal or we go to war." Arafat chose war. Why? Because the Arabs wanted ALL of the land. NONE for the infidel Jews.
Those 2 clowns will not tell you about those events.
Do you know that vast majority of Pal live under Pal authority and very very rare see any Israeli soldier.
No Israeli Army in a vast majority of the Pal land and very rare when normal Pal go into contact with Israeli soldiers.
In a vast majority of the contact between Israeli soldier and Palestinian is like contact between you and policemen in your country.
Pal population live under Pal police, law, courts, local authorities, Pal prisons.
It is very hard to say about this situation as an occupation.
Gidon Levi brought one example of Hevron.
First of all half of the things they depicted Hevron is a lies. Second it is very very small place out of whole West Bank. You can'r make conclusion from one small example for whole situation.
That is very classical manipulation - bring small example and make general conclusion based on one small example for whole situation.
Do you know that every years 30 000 people come from Gaza to get a cancer treatment and that the Israel saves thousands of Pal life by providing advanced medical treatment. And that is despite the fact that Gaza ruled by Hamas that aim for destruction of Israel and for genocide Jews. That is a very similar as in the middle of the world war 2 sick people from Germany would go to get medical treatment in England.
These 2 clowns would never talk about this. Because it will contradict their narrative.
It is really simple, if you start a genocidal war and then lose....ACCEPT it and move on. Arabs would've massacred israeli population had they won.
These 2 clowns didn't remind you about this fact.
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Well, the World is becoming a very strange place. In Paris, for the first time since WW2, the Army is patrolling the streets. Beheadings, knifings, multiple rapes, bombings, truck attacks and attempted murders occur daily In Berlin, Nice, Munich, Cologne, Hannover, Brussels, Stockholm, Malmo, Vienna, London, Rotherham etc.
A Lot of violence occurs that is SIMPLY NOT REPORTED by the Mainstream media. The reality is that most of Western Europe now looks suspiciously like Jerusalem. In this situation, "lets create a democratic secular state" vision looks ridiculously out of date.
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Lebanon civil war 180 000 dead Syrian civil war 500 000. Turks against Kurds conflict 40 000 dead. Iran -Iraq war 1 400 000 dead. Saddam Husein Against Kurd and SHia 300 000 dead War for independance from Pakistan in Bangladesh 3 000 000 dead. Afaganistan war with Russian 1 500 000 dead. Conflict in Yemen in 60's when Egiption Army invaded Yemen 100 000 dead. In Sudan in Dapur Arab Muslims killed 300 000 black muslims. Civil war in Livia against Kaddafi 50 000 dead. Civil war in Algir 200 000 dead. In Jordan in a black September King killed 20000-40000 Palestinians. Civil war in Syria that happening right now 550 000 dead.
Muslims just love killing other Muslims
The Arab Palestinians rejected a country of their own in 1947. Why? Because they wanted ALL of the land. NONE for the infidel Jews. At Camp David in 2000 Barak offered Arafat almost everything he had demanded - a state with its capital in Jerusalem, control over the Temple Mount, return of all of Gaza & 95% of the W Bank, and a $30 billion compensation package for refugees. Intermediary at the talks, Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia to Arafat: "take the deal"..."I hope you remember, sir, what I told you. If we lose this opportunity, it is going to be a crime...Either you take this deal or we go to war." Arafat chose war. Why? Because the Arabs wanted ALL of the land. NONE for the infidel Jews. In 2008, Mahmoud Abbas rejected a similar proposal from Ehud Olmert. Why? Because the Arabs wanted ALL of the land. NONE for the infidel Jews. And in March 2014, Abbas again said no – this time, to a proposal drafted by US Secretary of State John Kerry. Why? Because the Arabs wanted ALL of the land. NONE for the infidel Jews. It is the Palestinian Arabs themselves who have blocked every chance for their own self-determination. Why? Because it is more important to them to destroy the nation of the Jews than to have a nation of their own. THAT is what YOU support.
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During 1948 - 2015 ELEVEN MILLION MUSLIMS were killed by fellow muslims not Israeli's. 11,000,000 Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, or 0.3 percent, died during the sixty years of fighting Israel, or just 1 out of every 315 Muslim fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent of the 11 million who perished were killed by fellow Muslims. Arab-Israeli Fatalities Rank 49th :: Daniel Pipes www.danielpipes.org/4990/arab-israeli-fatalities-rank-49th
Israel agreed to the two-state solution since 1948 when it accepted the UN Resolution 181. Since then Israel repeatedly offered Palestinians peace and a state and the Palestinians rejected all these offers declaring that nothing short of destruction of the Jewish State would satisfy them.
Take a geography lesson, learn to read, acquire some critical thinking and fact checking skills, then come back when you have something relevant to say.
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"Ilan Pappe, a history lecturer at the University of Haifa, freely admits that, in his view, facts are irrelevant when it comes to the history of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. "Indeed the struggle is about ideology, not about facts, Who knows what facts are? We try to convince as many people as we can that our interpretation of the facts is the correct one, and we do it because of ideological reasons, not because we are truthseekers," Pappe said in an interview with the French newspaper Le Soir, Nov. 29, 1999
Ilan Pappe is an ex-Israeli, ex-historian.
This guy was expelled from his Israeli university post after he was found to be fabricating historical data. Pappe's books have been critiqued by many since his evidence is based on half-truths, falsified facts and wishful thinking. He makes a living by giving talks to both left-wing groups and other Saudi Arabia-funded organizations.
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