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Comments by "clray123" (@clray123) on "AI regulation is coming..." video.
The sad thing is that intelligent people fall for it. Because they kinda crave the feeling of knowing better than the dumb mass and feeling in charge of the inferior people's protection. So they are very easily fooled into believing that they are doing the Right Thing (tm) by restricting freedom in name of "safety", especially if there are also special perks for them in doing so.
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Yes, just like they saved us from the terrible Pandemic. We should be grateful. Pay more tax, increase military funding, too. So they can protect us even better.
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Remember that Sam Altman is essentially Microsoft. The most altruistic corporation ever made.
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@Vexxel256 lol like Microsoft's OpenXML format for office documents
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They have not made money, the OpenAI currently made $500 million of loss to their investors. The point of regulation is to allow them to cover this loss while preventing the competitors of making the money instead, building up on their efforts. Traditionally it was done with patents, but apparently they don't have much in that regard.
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@ImLure So do you think that China will comply with US "regulations"?
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Don't forget about the kickbacks to corrupt government officials, these are also the main motivator. And not being put to prison by said officials is a motivator for good ole Sam. Remember they have thugs with guns behind them, too.
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@Hilislaw Right now it would be sufficient if they monopolized and regulated the sale of GPUs. Hard to train anything AI on anything else.
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@Hilislaw That's where OpenAI's sponsor's ""rusted Computing" ideas come into play. You will not be able to run arbitrary code on your GPU (or CPU), just code digitally signed (approved, licensed, regulated) by Microsoft "for your safety and to combat malware". The technology (including hardware which does the signature verification) is already there, now being rolled out with Windows 11. Also, consumer-grade GPUs are not really how the largest LMs are trained currently - typically server-side multi-GPU or TPUs are used. "We" could easily forbid companies like LambdaGPU or AWS renting those out by the hour to non-licensed companies or (gasp!) individuals.
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@Hilislaw Also I should add you can illicitly trade with sanctioned countries, but this gets you into big trouble with the thugs at home, so most companies do not do that. For the same reason people are compelled by dictators in Russia and Ukraine to "fight for their fatherland" - if they refused, they would be persecuted, stripped of their wealth and/or put in prison.
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I hear he also dates the Microsoft CEO.
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The pandemic was warmup for what is happening now. It was to get the people in the mood and paranoid and rallying around the flag, so to say. To portray our wise leaders as our saviors.
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When push comes to shove all the government regulators are huddled together in one room and pass in a few hours laws that award trillions of dollars to the right guys. Remember "financial crisis"?
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Don't forget the Pentagon.
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The guy has a golden heart really.
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@stonebubbleprivat But I don't think they wanna or have to sell all that much in the US or Europe in the future...
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@stonebubbleprivat yeah, until Chinese-Russian AI controlled bombers start dropping bombs on your head
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@Darkness18641 That's the key point exactly. No human has the right to dictate to other human what kind of thinking are allowable or not. That is the definition of oppression and has been a problem for humanity for thousands of years and yet here we are with smartasses trying to make it look like it's some noble endeavor in defense of our safety.
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@Hilislaw If Russia/China/Iran think like the US, they will impose their own regulations. Basically when you have a technology which can threaten the establishment's power, it gets regulated so that it does not get into the "wrong" hands (wrong being defined as those unapproved by the establishment). This is the same as with any military tech - it is not outlawed because the thugs need it. It is regulated, so that you cannot easily become the thug yourself without the other thugs' approval.
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Just like with the pandemic, and climate change, selling of the "AI apocalypse" follows the same manipulation scheme: produce some hypothesis which, if true, had some terrible consequences. Focus on the terrible consequences, not on checking how true or likely the hypothesis is actually. Repeat ad nauseam what would happen if the imagined threat materialized. Most people will after a while ignore the actual lack of support for the premise and follow the inference as commanded. They will change their behaviors as desired by the manipulator.
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You mean like over the past 3 years?
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@3c3k It's about as much a good thing as any technological advance has (not) been. What may need to be regulated are certain uses (most of which belong to the government, e.g. police, military). But you can bet your ass that if government regulators are at play, they will not regulate themselves. Have military bio laboratories been regulated as a result of the pandemic? Has anyone even considered this idea publicly? Who regulates the government thugs aka regulators? Don't tell me jokes about democratic elections - where you usually have two imbeciles to chose from every few years, both bribed by the same sponsors.
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Scam Altman and the Enemies of Progress ;)
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Well, the more reason to bomb the unregulated countries then, ain't it?
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@mattpen7966 You ignore the fact that OpenAI/Microsoft is now actively bribing the government guys for the future license applications to be rejected or at least filtered through their "experts". Remember the govt can't do shit by themselves. They will outsource the vetting process to, guess who? Microsoft/OpenAI. And also pay them for doing this God's work.
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An AGI which puts out the lights on government could actually save humanity from itself.
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