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Comments by "" (@PainterVierax) on "China's 7nm Semiconductor Breakthrough" video.
@hi4806 this is bs. you're even parroting the green washing marketing on "renewable energies". They may are leader in sales volumes for now but clearly not in innovation and R&D. In fact, you're further proving my point. Cheap inefficient solar panels, LCD panels and Li-on batteries that aren't bleeding edge is easy. Making the next gen micro-LED or OLED panels or improving Na-ion battery is way way more ressource intensive. You've failed to understand the huge difference between being a leader and a follower in the high tech industry.
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The trick is, this is not high end chips. They are still few years behind. The moral loss for US is mainly about the improvement SMIC made despite sanctions, but there is still a technological gap.
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@@ucomaco we'll see. But you realize it's double the amount of work to catch up the bleeding edge race. Then they have to keep the course to stay relevant and this part involves tons of R&D, which is not PRC's strength.
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@hi4806 don't care about US worker's culture (aka management). I'm talking about how PRC is mostly driven by retroengineering and copying what already works, only rarely improving on it. Western culture is more focused on R&D, experimenting and taking financial risks. This take quite a long time for Japan, Korea and Taiwan to get over this first step and make their own discoveries and technological breakthrough. Though it's not just semiconductors and IC design, it's having the expertise in many other disciplines to make the EUV machines they aren't allowed to purchase anymore. Good luck cloning Karl Zeiss and ASML equipment. It's already a miracle they made N7 node with DUV. They will need more than that to make the already existing N3 node. And by the time they figure it out, TSMC, Samsung and Intel will already be quite a few step ahead. Again, it's relatively easy to catch up by leapfrogging time to time but it's another level to be constantly on the leading edge, especially when dealing with sanctions.
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@hi4806 that doesn't mean PRC gonna fill the gap and be leading innovators like western companies and its more advanced neighbors. It needs a cultural shift beforehand.
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@Ilovecruise That's bad news for customers. It's already difficult to change the OS on a regular Android phone (mainly because of third party drivers) , so I would imagine those HarmonyOS phones will be as closed as the iOS ones.
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@xinyiquan666 How can Intel subsidize so many previous nodes when they factually were stuck to 14nm for many years because their N10 wasn't good enough? The 14nm++++++ was a huge tech enthusiast meme back then. Oh and GloFo isn't in the bleeding edge race anymore but they still made 32 and 28nm by themselves before acquiring some Samsung's processes. We're far from the 48nm limit you claimed. Finally, acheiving N7 with DUV when N3 on EUV with GaaFET is already in production shows SMIC still have a lot of work to just be able to catch up. Then to compete in the lead position they will have to transition from their cloning, retro-engineering mentality to start to heavily invest in R&D like other developed countries did, not just 5g chips. You can thumb up your comments with every alternate account you have, the reality is that you're just a delusional clown regurgitating nationalist propaganda.
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