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Comments by "" (@PainterVierax) on "China's Making x86 Processors, But Does It Matter?" video.
@Lycanthrope No need for a Windows port. Android, ChromiumOS, GNU/Linux and BSD run extremely well on ARM whereas Microsoft still has performance difficulties and made several failed attempts. Most embedded/server/industrial computers don't run Windows, even when using x86 chips. Although major Linux distributions have quite mature Risc-V ports now, SoCs just need a few years of refinement then get economy of scale to become viable for most consumers usage.
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@siggydj the 45nm Qualcomm SoC inside my rather old phone is still quite capable for the consumer market. And 14nm is not that bad for desktop. Sure Risc-V is not ARM, but the progress and the interest show it is yet to be a serious concurrent for ARM and actually Risc-V MCU are already gaining massive market share.
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@elgs1980 and the BSD license giving opportunity to close in-house designs and ISA extensions, just like ARM Holding did in the past.
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@catchnkill The fact is, like in the past of RISC, the proprietary CPU designs come from open source cores like Rocket or BOOM. And by not being copyleft, nothing is blocking a big player to create its own monopoly by closing sources of design improvements and their own ISA extensions.
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FYI Taiwan is not PRC at all. Taiwan is under the USA's wing like Japan, South Korea and Philippines.
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@vitalis If Jobs was still there, Apple would rather invest in Risc-V like many companies are doing now. ARM is beyond the top of the curve, now trapped losing more and more market share in the low-power every years and being unable to compete with the software inertia of x86 that the trend recently made by Apple could not entirely resolve (because M1 is not a standard arch and Apple closed environment is a no-no for many potential users and devs)
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@siggydj Ok genius, then explain me how that phone had an official Android 6 support and now it runs an Android 10 rom. Kid, you're full of shit. What you call stone age is only 5-6 years ago. What changed is not the habits of users but the unnecessary resource hunger of apps, a thing PRC inland developments can totally optimize instead of following the consumerist trend.
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AFAIR it was mostly a reaction of Trump's government ingerence on ARM and Huawei business. Risc-V wanted to be independent from any country so they chose the most neutral one. And yes both US and PRC are developing on Risc-V since this is a clean ISA taylored for specialized microarchs, it's royalty-free and the BSD license allows proprietary designs.
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@arenzricodexd4409 yeah, let them conquer MCU market, then annihilate ARM on the embedded SoCs and integrated core markets then the low-power servers one. x86 has currently too much software inertia and Risc-V will need a lot of time and other markets share to be considered as an inevitable ISA for mainstream software development.
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@93hothead well, they will just follow what Apple is trying to do on its customers.
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because Taiwan is extremely influenced by Japan since decades.
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