Comments by "Byron" (@byron-ih2ge) on "NewsX Live" channel.

@RayshiaRoman i am not an islam hater but a javanese ex muslim agnostic . Who understands the truth
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@UCEbkb_NqvF2LN3IzTkDKbDg do u seriously think that your ancestors would have converted to islam if the muslims told them that our dear prophet muhmadd was a man who had $ex with a 9yr old?
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@RayshiaRoman also what u were sold in the name of islam was very different from the real islam not to mention they knew they couldnt sell the real cultish islam to indonesia because it was extremely backward and primitive hence they mixed it with indigenous beliefs and little by little increased the islamic element within it
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@RayshiaRoman why do u think bali is more famous than the rest of indonesia combined , its because all their culture , language and rituals have remained intact and evrything remains preserved.
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@sportlovers1508 is telling the truth insulting somebody then that means u r running away from the truth. Islam is the worst nothing even comes close i mean seriously how can someone follow a child rap*st its just pathetic!! Islam is a primitive desert cult and when a much more advanced civilization like indonesia follows it , it looks really sad.
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@RayshiaRoman bali became a tourist destination only in the 80s and during the dutch time it was literally a warzone!! indonesians converted to islam due to diplomatic and economic reasons it had nothing to do with their liking of religion . also indonesian hinduism was and still is very different from indian hinduism and can be considered native because Its basically hinduism+ buddhism+ lndigenous beliefs of indonesia.
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@RayshiaRoman indonesia has a very dilute form of islam and that too mixed with local practices and many also follow the syncretic form of islam hence u get such a tolerant indonesian version of islam.
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@RayshiaRoman indonesia if completely accepts the true islam it would be like aceh, without islam it would look like bali which one would u choose as a human i dont think its hard to choose which is better.
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@RayshiaRoman its not about liking and all about power u guys were lucky that u got the dutch ( the best of all colonisers ) had it Been the portuguese or the Spanish u would be singing "hail mother mary" . even after getting colonised by the dutch the people who were least interested in spreading their religion, indonesia still has a significant christian minority this itself proves that indonesians in general favoured their bwnefits over any religion.
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@sportlovers1508 indonesia should culturally move back to its preislamic believes which made indonesia into indonesia while becoming religiously agnostic or very less religious.
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@pustakarileks7404 kejwan and javanese hinduism co existed untill islam arrrived for 2000 yrs . The best way to understand their relationship is japan Majority of Japanese for the past 2000 yrs follow both shinto and buddhism simultaneously thats how kejawan and javanese hinduism worked in java . Thats just how indian philosophies work in general they syncretise they nvr eliminate the native beliefs!!
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@rakharashya1434 its no hidden fact that foreigners and non muslims feel the most comfortable in bali
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@rakharashya1434 what the hell bali and java are the most densly populated islands in indonesia!!
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@rakharashya1434 so i have no idea what ur talking about??
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@pustakarileks7404 well kejawan is javanese hinduism there isnt much difference. There is a reason why all tribes in indonesia designate themselves as hindus because hinduism accepts evrybody and evrything
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@rakharashya1434 i nvr said it is i said its one of the most popolous islands if u see by population density java and bali are the densest.of areas
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@pustakarileks7404 well u right about the concept but who said kejawan dont worship Hindu gods thats completely wrong have u evr seen wayangs?? Kejawan itself is a combination of ancient javanese animism+hinduism+ buddhism Now if u r following an islamised version of it then i dont know
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@rakharashya1434 so there should be something worth promoting right??
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@pustakarileks7404 kejawan do a special kind of fasting "upavasana" just like indonesian hindus. Both also have the same holy langauge" old javanese" Kejawan has memayu hayuning bawono the exact concept exists in hinduism with the name tri hita karana So no u cant term them as different they r related and were practiced together by all javanese before islam arrived..
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@pustakarileks7404 na thats not true?kapitayan is just the central concept it works on nothing else
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@pustakarileks7404 man what the hell 😂 thats what i said upvasa or shoertened to pasa they r the same thing..
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@pustakarileks7404 the concept of sanghyang taya also corresponds to the hindu-buddhist concept of anatman!! The truth is absolute void ..
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@pustakarileks7404 ya ur right there r some kejawans who bow to walis so ya ur kinda right but i was talking about the real ones for 2000 yrs it was kejawan -Javanese hindu coexistence just like shinto-buddhism in japan
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@pustakarileks7404 i nvr said its an indian concept
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@pustakarileks7404 what i meant was kejawan was filtered and codified into a definite thing only in hindu- buddhist era
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@pustakarileks7404 also if u think indonesian hinduism is something foreign like islam or christianity then ur wrong it has been inspired from indian philosophy but its the indonesian take and a completely indigenised version of hinduism
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@pustakarileks7404 sepertinya kamu tidak mengerti english.Anda benar-benar salah paham apa yang saya maksud
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@pustakarileks7404 which indian hinduism concept ?? See again tuhan and hantu are simply just god and supernatutal concept 😂
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@pustakarileks7404 ya i know
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@pustakarileks7404 ya it does but again it has been developed very much philosophically
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Exactly thats The point i was trying to make was before hinduism came java looked like australian aboriginals thats how primitive they were the transition from tribal to civilisation happened when indonesian hinduism was founded by our ancestors.
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@pustakarileks7404 the javanese ,sundanese ,balinese,malay all these identites were formed only during that era. Thats why take even the oldest of.oldest inscriptions of this language u will find huge amount of bahasa sanskreta vocabulary in it
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@pustakarileks7404 i didn't understand what u mean??
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@pustakarileks7404 ya they were sea explorers and adventurers long before but who needs civilization for tgat even maori were like that..
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