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Comments by "On The Piss" (@On_The_Piss) on "How New Zealand Fell Out of Love With Jacinda Ardern" video.

Except Yorkshire miners are poor, working class - NZ farmers are rich, privileged land owners.
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She has remained preferred prime minister BY FAR for the last 4 years. Funny how that wasn’t mentioned.
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@DinoPimp Business is business. Like all industries (including mine) in this changing world, we need to constantly adapt to stay afloat. Farmers aren’t special. They need to make sacrifices like everyone else does. Why is agriculture the only industry not bound by the emissions trading scheme?
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@DinoPimp even a “small family owned dairy farm” is doing a hell of a lot better than the average NZer
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@DinoPimp I’d like you to answer why agriculture is the only industry not bound to the emissions trading scheme? They have had years to adapt their businesses - given a pass no other industry was given, yet they still moan. Why are they special?
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@brettmciver432 As opposed to National selling our state housing assets and denying there was a housing crisis in the first place?
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@DinoPimp Yeah exploiting migrant labour must be really tiring for them.
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@DinoPimp Also, please don’t patronise everyone with “providing jobs” - considering agriculture primarily relies on exploiting immigrant labour under terrible conditions. Give me a break
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@brettmciver432 Sources on your claims please. Because the statistics show a drop in suicide over the pandemic period and a drop overall since 1997.
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@dmballadon Perception of New Zealand overseas is important to trade and exports, which in turn "puts money in the public's pockets" - even though I'd personally rather have more social services than a couple of extra bucks in my pocket - but that's just me.
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@NZsarge1 I like how in your YouTube bio you have a created playlist called “global warming alarmism”, perfect
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@DinoPimp Farm employees or farm owners? Because I think much of the issue lies in this crucial difference.
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@DinoPimp So what? Our other large industries have to abide by it, why not agriculture? While agriculture may be a large part of our exports, it also accounts for nearly half of NZ’s emissions. Yet they get a pass? Why?
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@Harrispilton22 Just wanted to clarify for everyone. Farmers still rely on the myth that they are some kind of struggling peasant class, when that hasn’t been the case for a long time now.
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@chriscomics9415 Maybe landlords shouldn’t be buying up all the houses considering THERE AREN’T ENOUGH OF THEM FOR THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD THEM
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@chriscomics9415 And why do you think the rules are stricter now genius? Why do you think we’re in the position we’re in? In a country with not enough houses, you think it’s ok that one person owns 10?
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@snoozyq9576 She did lead. Effectively. She won two elections, the second in a landslide which gave her a clear mandate to lead. You didn’t like her; that’s fine - we did.
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@NZsarge1 Yes as I’ve already said many industries are going through changes. That’s what happens in business. Like everyone else, farmers need to learn to adapt. They can’t expect to continue to contribute half of NZ’s entire emissions and not have push back. They aren’t even subject to the emissions trading scheme like everyone else is, yet they still complain. Give me a break.
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@NZsarge1 Yes I’m definitely gonna listen to a farmer lecture me about climate science.
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@NZsarge1 Sorry, I don't get my information from social media and YouTube videos. You shouldn't either, if you really are a "critical thinker"
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@2bfrank657 She was popular right up until she stood down, and remains popular today. Maybe vice should have actually researched this first
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@NZsarge1 Told me everything I need to know about you, and your mates
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@redsnapper2889 Because she was fought every step of the way. How could you have expected her to get anything done with the constant moaning and sabotage from the opposition?
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@MrStaplez National prefers them in Motels.
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@denskiz1 How do you know? You don’t even live here 🤣 You were probably one of the supposed “1 million kiwis” trying to get home during the pandemic because other countries made such a balls up of their pandemic responses 🤣
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Certain groups / a tiny, loud, annoying, selfish minority
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@darcycullenward7568 if it’s so bad, why did “one million kiwis” all try to come back home during the pandemic? Hmmmm
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@IsabellaN777 Yeah, that’s what I said. Other country’s pandemic responses were terrible. People lost jobs, many died, etc. It’s no wonder why so many wanted to return home.
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@brettmciver432 I’m still waiting for the evidence to back up your nonsense claims?
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We don’t want to lick the boots of the US and UK like Australia does, thanks
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@greywolf7422 Agriculture accounts for half of NZ’s total emissions. When are they going to address this? Where is their empathy? They are destroying our “clean green” image. It’s time for them to step up.
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@rickferguson6794 Yup. Auckland. And I don’t need to be a farmer to know that agriculture contributes half of NZ’s total emissions, while being conveniently exempt from the emissions trading scheme - a scheme every other major industry has to abide by. For how long do they get a free pass? We all have to sacrifice, why not them?
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@rickferguson6794 Labour won one of the clearest mandates in NZ political history. Cope
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@snoozyq9576 Most are. And btw rich doesn’t just mean you’re billionaire, it means you’re doing a hell of a lot better than an average NZ worker.
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Who cares what she looks like? 🙄
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@Trippeak What a brilliant, thoughtful and productive “observation”, you should be on a panel.
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Whataboutism
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@rickferguson6794 You’re so defensive and angry. Says a lot really
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@rickferguson6794 lol farmers exploit immigrant labour because they can pay them less than kiwis are willing to work for. Give me a f*ckin break
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@rickferguson6794 With no job security, away from family for long periods, live together in tiny accommodations in the freezing cold, yeah we’ve all seen the evidence mate. “We keep our slaves happy” etc
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@alexisdetocqueville9964 Is that what Joe Rogan told you? Fox News? Jokes on you for believing the bullish!T you hear on TV
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She didn’t lock anyone anywhere 🤣🤣🤣 get a grip
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I stopped reading at “forced vaccinations” 🙄🙄🙄
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@buzzardsmith3676 Oh give me a break. You antivaxxers have such a victim complex, it’s so boring and selfish
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@td42williams I’ve got a mortgage too. So what? Business is business.
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@LudiCrust. You would prefer we grovel at the feet of the US like the Aussies do? Nah no thanks we want our own foreign policy not influenced by any meddling superpower.
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@greywolf7422 Yeah just like any other business. So what?
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@Trippeak Because they were competent, and the opposition was far from it. It’s not rocket science.
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@Trippeak That’s your opinion, the NZ public had theirs.
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@pennybenson2455 It’s almost as if we operate under a system of parliamentary representative democracy. We don’t elect our PM’s, we never have.
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@rickferguson6794 Farms are businesses. I run a business too. It’s hard. Welcome to reality. Farmers aren’t special, sorry
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@rickferguson6794 Farms are a business. Businesses come and go. Businesses constantly adapt to the realities of a shifting economy and societal trends. Welcome to real life
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@Trippeak Jacinda Ardern consistently won Preferred PM throughout her tenure, and beyond. For the last 4 years. Facts don't care about your feelings, etc.
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@Trippeak Read my other comments in this thread.
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@rickferguson6794 They’re welcome to join in, but they’re not. They’re instead throwing their toys out of the cot whenever their profits are affected, and blocking ambulances on Auckland motorways with their tractors. Crybabies.
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@rickferguson6794 And yet agriculture is dirtier. Wild eh
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@rickferguson6794 Not according to the polls 🤣
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@greywolf7422 “completely different issue”, it is quite literally the central issue, actually.
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@td42williams Most are second or third generation inheritance recipients. Nepotism
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@pinchebruha405 No, it’s nothing like that. Do you live here?
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@JG-us9lu You don’t even know what that word means 🙄🙄🙄
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@JG-us9lu Yup, congratulations for proving my point for me. Anti science, dumbf*ck conspiracy theorists embarrassing our country. Well done!
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WolfOfOdinn 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah right
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@rickferguson6794 I already stopped using dairy products a long time ago. And I eat a lot less meat too. The same can be said for almost everyone I know.
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@rickferguson6794 Fruit and vege farming isn’t the issue. This is about emissions from livestock.
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@rickferguson6794 Why are you so hostile? You won’t win support that way.
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@greywolf7422 It’s not complicated. Agriculture pollutes A LOT. Agriculture is not subject to the emissions trading scheme. They should be. Simple as that.
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@td42williams Oh f*ckin yeah right wish my parents had a zillion acres of land to “sell” me
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@td42williams let’s see what’s inside their trust funds eh
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@bodyloverz30 Our tourism industry does. I do. A majority of NZers do.
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@coopsnz1 So you mean a 3 million dollar mortgage?
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@gfunk0073 Generations of inheritance
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@guccigang9307 "rural working class" LOLLLLLLLLLL yeah good one
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@classic3511 Lol they already tried her style of unfettered capitalism and it tanked the economy. Don't you remember?
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@gfunk0073 lol when did I say that? Desperate
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@gfunk0073 Nope I said inherited wealth. As in, money or assets you DIDN’T earn being handed to you for free because you were born into a rich, land owning family. You said it yourself 🤣
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@gfunk0073 Do you know what nepotism is? Yeah.
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@gfunk0073 Why don’t you answer the question? Do you know what nepotism is? And how it applies to farmers as you’ve already illustrated?
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@gfunk0073 Yeah you sound like a trust fund kid. Typical
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@gfunk0073 Yeah I’ve got a mortgage too, so what? You think only farmers work every day to pay for it? My daddy didn’t help me get mine though, that’s probably the difference between you and me.
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@joneskurian3923 NZ Agriculture is totally reliant on China for its economy* FTFY
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@brobinson8614 💯💯💯
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@reghan8095 so unionise and demand better pay and conditions from the wealthy farm owners? But you guys seem to hate anything remotely “left wing”??? You’re shooting yourselves in the foot.
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@alethein359 lol ever heard of majority rule? That’s called democracy. Only a laughably tiny proportion of NZ are unvaccinated. You’re making it seem like our health measures were divisive, they were anything but…
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@fluoroantimonictippedcruis1537 it also contributes HALF of our total emissions, while also being exempt from the emissions trading scheme. (For some reason?!?!?!)🙄🙄🙄
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@fluoroantimonictippedcruis1537 Nobody is “shutting down” anything. All we’re asking is for the agriculture industry to abide by the same rules every other industry has to abide by. Farmers have had loads of time to adapt, but they didn’t. Now they’re crying. A tiny violin plays
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@fluoroantimonictippedcruis1537 Time to move on from meat and dairy then, eh. Much of the world already has, or is in the process of. More people than ever no longer use milk products, eat as much meat. Time changes. Adapt or die.
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@fluoroantimonictippedcruis1537 So you think we should be supporting trade with China?
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@fluoroantimonictippedcruis1537 it’s funny how “China bad” until our farmers need to flick off their produce
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You should adjust your tin foil hat
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@chriscomics9415 Do you rent mate?
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@chriscomics9415 Ah yes, personal anecdotes. The argument of the dimwit
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Yup diversifying the economy of this country is long overdue.
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@rickferguson6794 The Christchurch shooter was a “lawful kiwi”, he bought his guns legally. So what’s your argument again?
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@rickferguson6794 Oh give me a break. You lot always go on about “gangs” and their unlicensed firearms. He had a license, he bought his guns from a store, he had not committed any other offences. Now you’re shifting the goal posts
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@brettmciver432 Your claims regarding “rampant suicides” and “closed down businesses” because both tropes are well known and have been proven wrong time and time again. Just want to know where you got this info from?
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@brettmciver432 Funny that you didn’t include the title of the article you’re quoting: “Suicide in NZ: Significantly lower number of people taking their own life” Here’s some more you omitted: “The number of New Zealanders lost to suicide has dropped significantly, with the latest statistics showing the rate to be the lowest seen in the past three years. Deputy chief coroner Anna Tutton this afternoon released provisional suicide statistics for the 2021-22 financial year.” Hmmmm so where are you getting your information? Where did you learn your little fib from? Facebook? I can guess.
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@brettmciver432 Here’s another article for you: “Number of failed businesses down 50 percent on pre-Covid-19 levels” “The number of business failures continues to track below pre-pandemic levels, despite the end of Covid-19 support measures and stiffening economic headwinds.” “Chapman Tripp partner Michael Harper said the number of companies placed into bankruptcy or liquidation was still down by about 50 percent on levels seen in 2019.” “The insolvency and liquidation industry has been surprisingly quiet during the pandemic, which has been put down to the government and the Reserve Bank's Covid-19 response.” Another little fib you’ve been told. It’s a shame you actually believed it.
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@lawncarewithtim4896 Nope the National Party sold all our state housing assets during their term. Now we are paying the price.
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@snoozyq9576 Yeah you’re right Mayor Wayne Brown really “businessed” his way through those floods aye. Did such a good job with his business skills with that natural disaster. Im sure Luxon would have “businessed” his way out of covid too. Brilliant
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