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I mean you’re wrong on evert single point. This gentlemen who put this short story together likely from simply watching the mayday episode doesn’t include the EXTENSIVE testing done to prove it was possible to land the plan. The source if you’re wondering the same source we the mayday episode all this was taken from which didn’t include the testing either so it makes sense it wasn’t covered. Mayday is a fantastic show don’t get me wrong and highly accurate made in part with the NTSB and government subsidized partly so most accidents litigated in the states are hyper accurate for legal reasons. This is another example. You need to do your homework for this on the leading edge analysis and slat position. Specifically look up the analysis with the palo alto digital imaging lab that analyzed the images reducing them after the fact to black and white in hi res, it was very advanced procedure for the time. The official NTSB report includes ALL of this. Everything I just said including the official report proving your statements incorrect doesn’t mean it made the pilots to blame. But again, the report actually covers this comprehensively. This is my problem with these channels that make 1 min videos on 270 people dying. You can’t cover tragedy half way. Bc it leads ppl like you perfectly well intentioned astray and we learned a lot about this accident like stick shakers in BOTH pilots stick on the DC whereas before it was deemed not necessary but had they had that and understood the wing stall they did have time to correct. As you correctly said though, that time was reduced and it was high stress but they are trained and pilots in the sim landed as well in real life pilots low altitude landed in similar tragedies. All of this was covered just read the document. I say that not as a gotcha but genuinely respectfully I think you’d be interested bc it pulls both punches and speaks extensively about the wing and loss of engine so it was just jarring to read your comment speculating about this after reading it cover to cover. Frankly I wouldn’t put that on you as you’re reacting to a video that inadequacy covered a high death tragedy. If you need the link let me know but make sure it has a dot gov url
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There’s a pretty big error in this - atleast an error in presentation. You’ve depicted the critical issue being down to the fact that the paperwork wasn’t handed directly to someone but as you likely saw investigating this incident thoroughly, the incident report by Lord Cullen explains that the shift leader indeed conferred with the day counterpart as was his duty. The real issue with the paperwork was down to the fact that the condensate pump and its safety valve were situated separately on two distinct decks on the accident rig. There was recovered in the debris miraculously BOTH work orders just located in the other location as the ops manager. The fact that he signed back into service the alternate means he followed protocol, but the paper was not in the room he was in. Thus, the paperwork was unavailable and due to the developing unproductive shutdown threat looming, the haste led to a lack of thoroughness searching in another area for the work order. You’ve made it sound like a breach of duty. That’s not the case. And even still, you’ve neglected that in normal circumstances this still doesn’t lead to disaster directly. It was down to the fact that a simple, loosely fitted flat disk tightened by hand the report chalks up to the issue. Even during maintenance you’d expect pipe tightening which likely wouldn’t have led to the cascade of failures.
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8:45 this is a near verbatim retelling from the Wikipedia page, but dude… if you’re going to talk about the death or hundreds of ppl, study the accident report. I’m not terribly familiar with this channel and don’t normally consume this content but decided to thinking it would include anecdotes from the baaa-acro report which is public. So it’s possible it’s a coincidence that your retelling is in the exact same order as Wikipedia my mistake if that’s the luck after two videos. But deviate & explain why in even general aviation terms some of the major flash points but also basic details. For instance, you make an error in research on the flight engineer. Wikipedia leaves this out as diss admiral cloudberg but Curtis is a former pilot. A med check disqualified him later as a captain but he was rated as a flight engineer. You also fail to cite arguably the biggest issue of all and I do have a major issue with it. It’s incumbent upon the company to pair their employees better. CRM was not widely studied yet but it stands to reason that matching these 3 up is a terrible, terrible plan. Airliners go to great lengths to pair cockpits up with complimentary experience and expertise. It’s unforgivable to not cite this as a problem with the company that employs them. Another example: the suggestion the pilot didn’t ventilate to slow oxygen feeding. A double edged sword trapping noxious fumes and smoke. Or more important, the error in failing to adjust altitude setting descending back to Riyadh from a sea level Jeddah. Had you explained this, or mentioned the facts, it would have allowed a normal person to conclude correctly the manned zero cabin altitude meant landing in Riyadh would have have left the aircraft overpressurized. From there you had cited control valves burnt out due to expanding fire.
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Where are you getting these figures? By the own parks estimates and documentation, they are simply flat out wrong. The most deaths from falling is attributed to suicide and it’s not really even all that close.
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There was no chain reaction. Contrary to what ppl seem to think, cars do not blow up bc they are on fire. Ever. There’s almost no scenario simple flames ignite fuel that leads to explosion. You would need an outlying issue or factor not normally present with a normal vehicle/fuel. I’m fairly well versed on the properties of petrol and combustion for good reason. That was, morbidly, the aircraft cutting through a sea of humans and vehicles like hot butter on fire. It isn’t fake, it’s just a horrid sight I wouldn’t advise anyone to go looking up
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