Comments by "UzuMaki NaRuto" (@UzumakiNaruto_) on "Military Summary" channel.

  1. @antyspi4466 This is a war between NATO and Russia, for key strategic areas that are vital for Russia, for NATO gaining a foothold to threaten further vital Russian interests, as well as Russia´s status as a great power and regime change in Moscow. Russia hasn't been a 'great power' for a very long time and no one would threaten Russia if they didn't threaten others first. Russia can never back down, as a defeat threatens the very existence of the Russian state. If Russia has to mobilize 10 million men and lead a total war effort, so be it. It can rely on China´s support in that matter, which understands that if Russia gets defeated, exhausted, geostrategically neutered and perhaps even becomes a Western colony like in the early 90´s, Beijing will be the next on Washington´s menu. That's the problem that Russia created for themselves. They believed invading and taking over Ukraine would be a relative easy operation that would take a few weeks at most and they completely miscalculated and have jumped into the biggest shitstorm that they could ever dream of and now they're stuck. I hope China is watching and sees how stupid using military force without much thought can place your nation into a giant hole that you don't want to be in and instead find other non-military means to solve issues that you might have with other nations. So yes, we will most likely see the escalation into WW III and a direct conflict between Russia and NATO, but not because Kiev gets showered with weapons and because of battlefield successes, but because Ukraine is losing and can´t get sufficiently re-equipped. Even temporary Ukrainian successes would just delay the inevitable, as it would force Moscow to double down and increase its war effort to the point where it can break Ukraine´s forces - which brings us again to a NATO intervention. What is Russia going to double down with if it keeps losing men and equipment at the rate they're going at? They're going to fight with ever increasingly less trained and capable men armed with ever increasingly older equipment. Goodluck to the Russians when Ukraine is going in the opposite direction where more and more NATO is becoming more willing to send ever more modern western equipment to help Ukrainians push back the Russians.
    1
  2. 1
  3. 1
  4. 1
  5. 1
  6. 1
  7. 1
  8. 1
  9. 1
  10. 1
  11. 1
  12. 1
  13. 1
  14.  @iigalaxyii9928  *Bakhmut is worth the fighting because of several reasons. The city is strategically placed at a high elevation and is a crossroad for the Donbas infrastructure which means if Russia can take it that’ll allow the Russians to more opportunities to develop more offensive.* There's a difference between an objective worth fighting for and an objective that's worth fighting for at all costs. Bakhmut clearly doesn't fall under the latter and it doesn't make sense for either side to fight so hard for it especially on the Russian side. I guess for the Ukrainians if they feel its worth it as a delay tactic and to get Russia to only focus on Bakhmut and the surrounding area with them unable to launch any significant attacks elsewhere along the front then maybe the sacrifice is worth it to them. For the Russians I don't see the cost being worth it if any breakthrough they may achieve cannot be exploited by a large armored force. If they don't have an large armor force to push the opening, then its pointless because you simply push the enemy back to their next line of defense WWI style. Heck if the Russians did have any significant armored force they should've been able to close up the pocket long ago and complete the encirclement and force the Ukrainians to counterattack to try and relieve the trapped Ukrainian forces. Its interesting to see the parallels of Bakhmut to Stalingrad where the strategic significance of the objective pales in comparison to the political and media significance of capturing the city. I mean if you simply zoom out and look at the map of Ukraine, Bakhmut is but a tiny dot where taking it or losing it isn't going to make much of a difference militarily in the outcome of the war compared to the political/media gain.
    1
  15. 1
  16. 1
  17. 1
  18. 1
  19.  @waynzignordics  Nato soldiers, active or inactive, comprise the entirety of the IL army responsible for the territorial recovery in Kharkiv. Their command structure is comprised of active Nato commanders. Does that fact make you uncomfortable? I never disagreed that in terms of intelligence and assistance in command and planning etc. that NATO has greatly helped the UA forces. I just dispute that actual NATO soldiers who are actively serving within their own forces are fighting on the ground in Ukraine. As far as I've read pretty much all western volunteers fighting right now are not currently serving in their own country's armies. Nato didn't "become involved" after Russia invaded, it's been involved since before 2014. Nato has been equipping, training, or financing AFU for nearly a decade. Unfortunately for Ukraine it wasn't at the pace needed otherwise they should have a much larger NATO trained and equipped force ready at the beginning of the invasion to push back the Russians. Still there was enough that it made a significant enough difference that the Russian invasion was eventually slowed down and now mostly stopped. Russia invaded Ukraine after the AFU began amassing troops on the Donbas border in preparation of an invasion into the region. The Donbas republics asked Russia for help, and she did so under the UN Charter rules. Donbas is still apart of Ukraine and this was an internal matter that Russia didn't have to interfere with, but they did anyways. There wouldn't be fighting if some people in Donbas didn't form militias and try to gain independence by force and then when they started losing Russia intervened to help. Also while many people in the Donbas did want independence or least more autonomy, from what I've read I don't think most residence living there wanted to do it by force and having their people dying and infrastructure destroyed. The initial move on Kiev had the goal of fixing AFU troops in the north-west and preventing them from reinforcing the Donbas region. It worked so well Russia took more land than they could hold with their limited troop numbers, namely Kharkiv. The hope was Ukraine's government would capitulate like in 2014 in Crimea, and ALMOST DID, until Boris Johnson told Zelenskyy no, Biden backed up Boris, and Zelenskyy became the face of the greatest propaganda project the world has ever seen. Congrats for buying into it. This makes no sense. You don't waste a significant portion of your troops and equipment in a 'feint' when its completely unnecessary to do so. As I've said elsewhere the Russians could've accomplished the same objective of forcing the Ukrainians to keep forces near Kiev and surrounding areas by simply having their 40k or so troops stay on the Belarus border and do nothing else. Just sit that Russian force on the border and keep it there and do nothing else and they don't lose equipment and men that's badly needed now. And this doesn't even include all the logistical resources that were wasted supporting that attack that could've been transferred to support the eastern and southern fronts that lost alot of heavy equipment because many Russian vehicles ran out of fuel or broke down and were then abandoned. Russia hasn't "pushed all their chips in." They haven't fully mobilized. They're fighting a SMO (by legal definition), and appear intent on keeping it that way. What I'm saying is that the Russians have nearly used up as much of their forces and equipment as they can short of fully mobilizing which is why the talk of mobilization has ramped up so much in recent weeks. If the Russians were winning comfortably there wouldn't be any talk about mobilization at all and the reason why they haven't done it is because it would be open admission that they're failing badly in Ukraine and that short of throwing much more into the fight they're now not only not going to accomplish their goals, but they might lose much of what they've gained. The Russians believed that what forces they gathered at the beginning of the invasion would be enough and they grossly miscalculated and now they're paying the price. Russia doesn't want all of Ukraine, it wants everything east of the Dniper river, and the entire southern border through Odessa. Kiev can keep the rest (although Poland is gonna take back Lvov, watch). If this was the case then they shouldn't have attacked towards Kiev which was a complete waste of forces and supplies. I think the Russians believed that even with NATO help since 2014 that having seen the Ukrainians fight previously in the Donbas and Crimea, they didn't think that UA forces would be a match for them or that they would even have the will to fight. With those assumptions the Russians invaded thinking that the UA forces wouldn't put up much of a fight and those units that did resist would quickly be overwhelmed. After the UA forces collapse, Zelensky would have no choice but to flee the country or be captured. This is why the Kiev attack happened otherwise it wouldn't ever have happened. Do yourself a favor a listen to at least ONE source of news that isn't funded by Nato's propaganda money. It'll keep you from being so naive about current events. I look at numerous sources from both sides because unlike the pro-Russian hacks of the Duran and others like them, I care more about facts and knowing what's actually happening in the ground in real life than I care about blindly supporting one side and completely discounting all information that doesn't say my side is winning.
    1
  20. 1
  21.  @ub210  There, you said it. Whether they will exist as an independent country is up in the air. If they DO NOT disavow NATO ambitions and continue to provide a platform for invaders to attack Russia, they will never be independent. Their current govt is an existential threat to the RF. The sooner the west realizes that, the sooner this war will end. Otherwise, they will be nothing but a wasteland buffer zone in the western Ukraine. A real "okraina". That's what they appear to have signed up to be. Ukraine WILL exist as an independent country as long as NATO keeps supporting it. This is obvious because war is costly and Ukraine cannot fight it alone. NATO will NEVER allow Ukraine to fall so it will remain a free nation. Now when you're talking about how big the new Ukraine will be that then that's up in the air. Maybe the Ukrainians get much more western tanks, armored vehicles and even western fighter jets and it pushes the Russians mostly out of Ukraine if not all of it. Or maybe they continue to get moderate support and at best they take back some land without being able to take back everything. Who knows at this point. Also I don't know in what world you believe the Ukrainian government is 'a threat' to Russia other than it won't do its bidding anymore and chooses to align itself with the west for a better future for its people. No nation who has ever stuck with Russia has ever prospered otherwise the USSR would still be here in 2023. The first chance that former Soviet nations had to choose their destiny many IMMEDIATELY ran to the west for protection and prosperity and guess what most of those countries are doing better economically than they ever did when they were apart of the USSR. This is what Ukraine also wants and it sucks that Russia refuses to let them go under the guise of their own security. Lets be real Ukraine will NEVER attack Russia because its too small and weak to do so. The only reason Russia doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO is because that FOREVER STOPS Russia from having the opportunity to invade Ukraine again in the future. The Baltic states would already be back under Russian rule by now if they weren't under the protection of NATO and that's why Ukraine and other countries want to join so that they too can gain protection from Russian aggression. The RF has stated its terms and the west won't agree until NATO is facing a choice between collapse and being a direct party to the conflict through open intervention. What terms? 'Give us everything we want or else we continue this war'? That's not negotiating, that's making insane demands that the other side won't and shouldn't ever agree agree too. Also Russia doesn't want to fight NATO head on because it would get absolutely curb stomped without the west breaking a sweat. Good luck to everyone then because the losses NATO will suffer will cause them to resort to tactical nukes first. NATO isn't losing anything other than sending its equipment and money to Ukraine. They can do that for a long time, but if they were smart they would send a ton of equipment to Ukraine and end this war quicker with a Russian defeat.
    1
  22. 1
  23. 1
  24.  @ub210  I understand your point. From the Russian side, also understand that Ukrainian was doing everything it could to wipe out the opposition over the last 8 years, especially in the Donbas. You do understand that it was the Russians who supplied weapons to the Donbas militia and then they sent troops to help them too. This is despite the fact that very few people living in the Donbas who wanted more autonomy from Ukraine NEVER VOTED to separate from Ukraine by force. That was Putin trying to provoke a situation so that they would have justification to attack and that's exactly what happened. *If they continue to progress and more territories vote to seek protection from the Kiev govt under the RF, what then? We're not going to support a 10-year war that has decimated Ukraine, NATO stores, and may further erode Ukrainian territory, are we?* That's makes no sense. Russians invade an area and Ukrainians flee the region. They then hold elections where everyone who would vote against them have already left and they 'win' the election and claim that that region wants to leave Ukraine? How much of a joke of an election can you hold that no one would ever recognize if they had half a brain? You're pretty much ethnically cleansing an area so that all opposition against you is gone and then claiming the territory as yours. Surely, the west sees this? The US military has made it clear that they do not want to get involved. This is clearly overreach by the US State Dept and agencies under it. If NATO and the US didn't want to get involved, they wouldn't have supported Ukraine for this long and be slowly but surely expanding their support. Sure it would've been great to see NATO step up with tanks and other armored vehicles from the beginning, but the fact that the US and Germany are willing to send Bradleys and Marders now and the UK is willing to send a few Challenger tanks as well is a great start from even a few months ago when such donations were out of the question. So yes NATO won't put boots on the ground, but they're also not going to let Ukraine fall after being committed to helping them for so long. When they start respecting each other, we'll get somewhere with nogotiations. If not, with time, respective western govts will be replaced with people who are able to make the tough decisions that will lead to peace. How can you negotiate with a tyrant like Putin who's already made it clear that he's not willing to budge on much of anything? Giving in to his demands only emboldens him to do it again to Ukraine or other countries in the future. Unless Putin drastically changes his mind, the only way to force him to change his mind is to beat his army to a pulp on the battlefield or else have the Russian people say enough and enough and rise up against him which seems very unlikely. An uneasy peace is worse than no peace at all as you can see with North and South Korea where even though they're not fighting each other there's a neverending uneasiness between them where violence could break out at anytime. The only long term solution for Ukraine is to join NATO and be under their protection. The Baltic states prove that NATO protection works because without joining, they would've been taken over and fallen back under Russian control long ago.
    1
  25. 1
  26. 1
  27. 1
  28.  @niccolobrioschi3758  Propaganda creates tyrants out of democratic rulers or democratic rulers out of tyrants when necessary. Don't try to sell the good cowboys trope to me, it's clear how the west runs. Sure I don't disagree that the west isn't perfect and has its issues too when it comes to invading nations, but in this instance its as clear cut as it gets when Ukraine didn't want this war and Russia said screw you and invaded anyways. If there were issues that needed to be solved they could've did it at the negotiation table, but Russia didn't want that and it believed it had the combat power to take all of Ukraine and bring it back under its sphere of influence. They miscalculated and now they're stuck in a war that they cannot win and the best outcome they can hope for is to keep whatever territory they've taken. Ukraine seems to have only been able to achieve higher and higher levels of suck since the fall of the USSR, evident in their never reversed demographic decline, shared by the baltics on EU life support and especially Moldova. Baltic states have been doing much better than its ever done under Russian rule and Ukraine's slow progress is due to it being still under the influence of Russia. That's why getting rid of the Russian yoke and moving to closer economic and military cooperation with the west is vital to Ukraine's future and whether it will continue to make slow progress or achieve more rapid growth and success. Also I don't buy this whole demographic decline crap. If we actually believe in this climate change stuff then we should be HOPING that the world's population should be on the decline so that we reduce resource usage and garbage and emissions output. They won't improve if they won't mantain good trade relations with their neighbours, chiefly with Russia, and this is not surprising since it's trade that makes an economy run This is why Ukraine needs to move away from Russia when trading and dealing with the west and the rest of the world is much, MUCH more profitable.
    1
  29. 1
  30. 1
  31.  @Tonik-13  Neutrality is what guaranteed Finland's security. Finland was a bridge between Russia and the West, and it was very profitable. Now Finland has become a target. Neutrality meant that Finland always had to be mindful of Russia and to not do anything to provoke them into possible threatening military force against them. Now that they're apart of NATO they're among allies who will come to their aid should Russia attack for whatever reason. Just look at Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and ask yourself do you really think that they would still be independent nations if they all weren't apart of NATO instead of being absorbed into Russia or become Russian puppet nations like Belarus has become? Somehow I seriously doubt it. Russia wants to keep Ukraine out of NATO because Putin, for some reason, loves Ukraine and does not want to destroy it in the event of a global mess. This is HILARIOUS. Putin 'loves' Ukraine so much that's he completely wrecking that country right now 'out of love'!! LOL. How does this even make sense?!?!? LOLOLOL!! Why not just admit that Putin doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO because he knows that once they like every other country that joins is fully protected from ever being invaded by Russia ever again? What makes you think that Russia certainly wants to attack some countries and the only insurance against evil Russia is NATO? There was literally a plan for Russia to take Moldova after Ukraine that Lukashenko revealed so that they could 'free' the Transnistrians the same as they did in Crimea and then the Donbas. Also they have already shown repeatedly that they have no problems threatening or actually using their military to get what they want in places like Georgia and Chechnya. If you think Russia isn't a threat then just ask yourself why so many countries are BEGGING to be apart of NATO and NO ONE begging to stay in the former USSR? If the Soviet Union was so great and beneficial to all the nations that were apart of it then why would it have broken up and many of those nations that were formerly apart of the USSR fleeing westward to join the EU and NATO? The Russians FORCED nations to become apart of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact. NO ONE is forcing nations to become apart of the EU and NATO and in fact you have to go through an entire process to become apart of both organizations.
    1
  32. 1
  33. 1
  34. 1
  35. 1
  36. 1
  37. 1
  38. 1
  39. 1
  40. 1
  41. 1
  42. 1
  43. 1
  44. 1
  45.  @waynzignordics  WWIII officially starts when Russia's allies, bound by mutual security agreements through CSTO, enter the proxy war being waged by Nato, forcing Nato to enter into direct conflict. That's the literal definition of a world war. CSTO countries would have to be INSANE to want to send their troops to Ukraine to fight for Russia and its doubtful that they'll do so if they have any intelligence in their government. Nothing in this current conflict bares any resemblance to what direct warfare between Nato and CSTO nations would look like. Lets hope this doesn't escalate to get even worse because if NATO actually ever got involved for real it would be a complete slaughter of Russia and its allies and it wouldn't be close. You were probably in diapers when the US invaded Iraq, or you'd know that Russia is using kid's gloves against Ukraine by comparison. Russia doesn't need nukes, but the threat of using them serves the purpose of discouraging Nato from escalating further. If Russia didn't need nukes it wouldn't threaten to use them constantly and saying they're on the table all the time. Only a nation in a weak position and feels like they have nothing to lose would threaten using such weapons that would take this conflict into a new level of danger that we shouldn't ever go to. You said it yourself in that the threat of nukes serves to discourage NATO from supposedly escalating things further. That means that Russia doesn't believe that its conventional forces are a strong enough deterrent to stop NATO from potentially interfering more. On the otherhand NATO DOES feel its conventional forces are strong enough that it doesn't need to talk about using nukes except only possibly as a response to Russia or someone else using them first. Russia has made many mistakes throughout the SMO, but their success in taking a quarter of Ukraine despite being massively outnumbered will be studied for decades. It doesn't look like on the map now that Russia has 25% of Ukraine and you're forgetting that Russia had the massive equipment advantage and supposedly the better trained army over the Ukrainians at the start of the invasion and even then they couldn't defeat them because of their utter incompetence. Now Russia is doing what they've always done in their history. Namely throw more men and resources at a problem and hope the red horde can eventually overwhelm their opponents through numbers and brute force.
    1
  46. 1
  47. 1
  48. 1
  49. 1
  50. 1