Comments by "UzuMaki NaRuto" (@UzumakiNaruto_) on "Ukraine. Military Summary And Analysis 24.01.2023" video.
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@cruiser6260
we don't know that theory of creating diversion is incorrect on the initial incursion. It's classic military strategy to dummy attack and draw forces. Actually advancing in is a bit different. Key points though, There was no battle for Kiev attempting to take the city and no sustained seige, which would be humanitarian disaster anyway. Did it in fact draw a lot of ukr forces to Kiev, if it did then it's not an unreasonable theory.
Saying the Kiev front was a diversion is merely pro-Russian folks trying to explain away the disaster that was the drive to Kiev was. Diversionary attacks ARE NOT meant to destroy your own forces in the process and if that's what happens then you're doing it VERY wrong.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, you don't throw significant numbers of your best troops flying in on helicopters supported by aircraft to try and capture two major airfields just outside of Kiev so that you can fly in thousands more men to open up a forward front and then having tens of thousands of troops racing to link up with them and do all that as a diversion.
You do all that because you have the real intention of trying to take the capital of a nation because historically in war that's ALWAYS been an important objective. Just look at both Chechen wars where the Russians both times made Grozny their primary objective. The Russians did not expect major resistance from the Ukrainians which is why they believed they could occupy major government and military installations in Kiev quickly and take control of the city.
People think you need hundreds of thousands of soldiers to take a major city yet all you have to do is look at Kherson where it was taken at the beginning of the war with barely a fight from the people living there.
People who keep saying this attack was all a diversion are just trying to explain why the Russians took huge casualties and were then forced to retreat and why it was worth it rather than acknowledging the disaster that it really was.
On NATO not wanting direct war with RUS, that's been true since about 1949. In a conventional war, the Pentagon's wargaming shows they can not win a war against Rus in Europe or in the Pacific against China, definitely not both.
There may have been a time during the 1950s, 60s and 70s where the USSR was indeed very strong and NATO definitely didn't want to go to war with them, however that time has LONG PASSED. Even if the USSR existed today, NATO would be more than able to beat them in a head to head conventional war. With the breakup of the USSR there is ZERO CHANCE that Russia could ever beat NATO on its own. The US alone could destroy Russian forces completely in a land war.
The only reason NATO doesn't want to go war with Russia now is because they don't want Russia potentially using nukes when they're getting their asses beat on the battlefield. If Russia didn't have nukes, almost 100% probably a no fly zone over Ukraine would've been implemented by NATO from the beginning of the invasion and perhaps even turns into attacking Russian ground forces if they cross a certain line and don't turn back.
I'll say they're both right on the himars. Not enough have been supplied to make a decisive difference, but you can't say they haven't made any difference at all. On the last round table Dima was saying Rus has a system with the same capability just a lot more. He also suggested lira not underestimate ukr.
Absolutely disagree. HIMARS and later on other MLRS systems have made a MASSIVE difference in this war. Before HIMARS arrived Russia was firing off huge amounts of artillery and missile barrages everyday. That has been drastically reduced now because HIMARS/MLRS systems have made it impossible for the Russians to place large amounts of ammunition close to the front without it getting destroyed quickly.
How many videos of huge ammo dumps did we see go up in a big fireworks display before the Russians finally got their head out of their asses and pulled their dumps farther back and break them down into smaller ammo dumps so that a hit doesn't destroy huge amounts of ammo and supplies?
HIMARS/MLRS would not be such a great strategic weapon with such a major impact if the rockets they were launching weren't so pinpoint accurate and had a decent range. If the Ukrainians were given ATACMS, you could kiss Russian logistics and command centers bye bye and they would be in even worse shape than they are now.
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