Comments by "UzuMaki NaRuto" (@UzumakiNaruto_) on "Mayor John Tory says encampments aren't safe or healthy" video.
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@OrangeDiCapa
You sound like you're speaking from a place of ignorance. Homeless people don't want a 'nice little condo', they want and need a roof over their heads
Not true for many if not most homeless people AT ALL. Ask any 'homeless advocate' what they want for the homeless and EVERY SINGLE TIME WITHOUT FAIL they ALL say they want 'affordable housing' which is pretty unrealistic when people with jobs often can't afford a decent place to live.
Also you do realize that the Canadian government spends an average of almost $130,000 PER YEAR PER HOMELESS PERSON right? And yet there are still plenty of homeless people living on the streets. This either means that the system is massively inefficient and/or corrupt or also many of these homeless don't want the help given to them or maybe its all of the above because there's no way you can spend 30 BILLION PER YEAR on the homeless problem and come up with such piss poor results year after year unless the system is messed up and/or the homeless are rejecting the help given to them.
So often in this city, people feel so comfortable dehumanizing and belittling homeless people, and instead of looking at the actual causes of homelessness and poverty, they blame the poor for managing their money incorrectly or some other form of bigotry. Homeless people are HUMANS and adequate, proper, and functioning shelter should be a human right.
If you're homeless in a major Canadian city its often by choice when there's so many services to get you off the streets and to help get you back on your feet. The problem is many of these people don't want help like all the drug addicts and alcoholics out there who only want to keep doing what they're doing until they die.
We should acknowledge that not everyone is worth saving and if they choose to be self-destructive then let them keeping doing it until they die. For those who actually want help and are receptive to people trying to help them, then concentrate on rehabbing those people and getting them back on their feet.
Just because they are not fortunate enough to afford their own place, does not by any means they deserve to be crammed into a concrete and cement warehouse. This 'prisoner island' mentality is sick and frankly disgusting, and you are trying your absolute hardest to blame the poor instead of the real problem you are willfully ignoring.
Its IDIOTS LIKE YOU that are the reason why nothing ever gets done in this country and problems take forever to fix. You make it sound like we're sending all the homeless to prison like facilities when what I mean is taking a warehouse or some other large building and turning it into a nice facility where people can have their own room and have access to food, clothing, washing facilities and social services long term and all under one roof.
Have you ever been to Pacific Mall in Markham or any major Chinese mall in Canada? They often take a large open space and divide it up into smaller booths with glass fronts where people can open businesses from. What I'm saying is that why couldn't you build a similar layout and use it to house homeless people in safety and in decent comfort?
Here's the inside of Pacific Mall:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvJHCJ1zQ88
Look at the layout there and ask yourself why can't you instead of having businesses in those booths you have homeless people living in those stalls long term with a permanent address so that they can live in a safe and secure environment and have social services on site to help them get back on their feet. You could easily house several hundred homeless at least in a place like that in decent comfort and I'd say that looks pretty far from like living in a prison don't you?
If you make it a rule that anyone who's allowed to live there can't have any drug/alcohol/mental/emotional/violence problems and are simply people down on their luck that need a helping hand to get back on their feet, then there's no reason why such a facility can't be a great place to live when you take away all the dangerous elements.
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@pacman3556
So you want the same thing except you want a sprawling warehouse instead a tower that can take up less of a footprint. But sure you can make arguments over towers also
Did you watch the video of how Pacific Mall looks like inside? Are you saying that's the kind of room that the homeless are being given in homeless shelters right now? I kinda doubt that.
What you consider a 'warehouse' is very different from what Pacific Mall looks like and what I'm proposing that the homeless be housed in something similar.
Also what you propose in building apartments/condos for homeless will take many years and cost tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars. What I propose can be setup in a matter of months and cost relatively little in comparison. And another thing you don't mention is how do you patrol a 50 story building and keep bad people and their behaviors out of the building?
In my Pacific Mall style living facility security guards can easily patrol the area and keep out bad people and can spot many bad behaviors and criminal activities relatively easily. Also in the time it would take to build even one 'affordable housing' condo building, you could build a ton of the kind of facilities I'm talking about and get almost everyone off the streets and give them a room, food and the social services that they need.
You need to learn to read. We do do that. We do separate people
If we do separate people then we're not doing it well enough when there's still so many people living on the streets and a number of them constantly say they don't want to go to shelters because they feel unsafe and don't want their belongings stolen. Who knows maybe they're lying or something, but with all the money we're spending each year on the homeless, we should be getting much more value than what we're currently getting for all that money spent.
If the system were working well then there should be almost no one on the streets except for the hardcore idiots who don't want help in which case we should stop giving a damn about them and help those who want and are capable of being rehabbed.
So basically what you are saying is you are just a racist pile of dog $hit.
What a world we live in where saying you don't want to accept everyone from around the world into your country with virtually no limits is considered 'racist/xenophobic/discriminatory' etc.
How about this? What if a random homeless person came to your door and DEMANDED that you let him live in your home and help them get back on their feet? Would you say yes to that? Maybe you're nice and you give him some food, clothing and money, but would you welcome him into your home and let him live with you long term no problem? Of course not. You'd say you cannot do that and that you've helped him all you can and then send him on his way.
That's the LOGICAL thing to do and yet when we apply this common sense to stopping the world from demanding and pushing their way into Canada we have idiots like you crying racism. Talk about being a hypocrite where something that you would likely never do in your personal life, you want to be done on a country wide basis to allow a neverending flow of foreigners in or else we're racists if we say NO to such insanity.
If the govt built more low income buildings and removed the people from the condos into the buildings it would open up more supply available to people that want to buy a condo and the market for housing would correct itself without the need for govt intervention. Again it is simple economics. Create more supply and remove demand and prices will adjust until supply and demand equal each other.
Except what you're saying is incorrect and wouldn't happen in the real world because any new inventory freed up by moving people to newly built 'affordable housing', those freed up units would still go at a very high price. You say that lowering immigration levels is 'racist', so with hundreds of thousands of new people coming to Canada each year, they're still going to be competing for whatever housing is available with existing Canadians who are looking for a home now.
Imagine you have a leaking boat and you're frantically bailing water out of the boat trying to get all the water out. Well did it ever occur to you that it doesn't matter how much water you can bail out when you never fix the leak to stop more water from coming into the boat to begin with?
Its the same with trying to build enough housing for everyone where you'll NEVER build enough for everyone when you bring in hundreds of thousands of people in every year and can't ever hope to make supply equal demand.
This is why people like you don't make sense and should NEVER be given any power to decide things. You're pro mass immigration and yet you can't understand that even if Canada dropped immigration levels to zero tomorrow, we STILL would have huge housing issues, not enough healthcare to go around for everyone, not enough infrastructure to serve everyone properly etc.
Yet somehow by adding hundreds of thousands of more people to the country every year it will magical fix all these problems instead of massively putting even more pressure on those systems that can't even keep up now.
And this doesn't even include the environmental impact of trying to support so many new people each year. How is Canada suppose to fight that super serious issue of climate change when you're bringing in hundreds of thousands of new polluters into the country every year? More people consuming more resources, generating more garbage and producing more carbon emissions and then we have MORONS like Trudeau saying that Canadians need to 'do more' to fight the climate change problem??!? Yeah that's why Canada is so messed up and is going downhill so fast because this country is run by dumbass MORONS.
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@pacman3556
yes I know about the Pacific Mall. It was not in this video. You can argue that the Pacific Mall is not a good use of land space either. So what? A tower takes up a much smaller footprint. And with the homeless problem in Toronto it is not very feasible to buy or appropriate that much land. There is not that much land in the downtown core. But as I already stated in my original comment if we have space to build 10 towers on a small parcel of land one of those towers could easily be used for homeless people. It would be more feasible. We both want the same thing...a place for homeless people but building something like the Pacific Mall downtown is not feasible.
What is this obsession with housing the homeless in the most expensive part of the city instead of building where there's space and land is cheaper? Also with my proposal there's already plenty of empty warehouses and businesses that you can buy and renovate right now and get into service within a few months. If you renovate things to the level of something close to Pacific Mall standards that would make it a very nice place to live long term for the homeless.
Also having a Pacific Mall type layout lends itself to having people gather and make connections rather than having high rises full of people doing their own thing and largely remaining isolated. And this doesn't even mention security which again is much easier to do when you're patrolling fewer levels with glass fronts that doesn't allow for people to hide everything that they're doing.
Trying to implement effective security in a high rise where everyone is behind closed doors is much more harder which is why there are a number of problem apartment and condo buildings that have constant issues. Homeless people need a helping hand, but they also need to be closely monitored until they can get back onto their feet and are able to be self-sufficient again.
because homlessness is a complex issue. There are various reasons why people are still on the street. Just one argument alone is the condition of the shelters. Again try looking it up and going into the Seaton house.....not far off from prison. I cannot even begin to describe the smell.
The issue of why people become homeless and live on the streets may be abit complex, but how to solve that problem is easy as long as the government provides the proper funding and resources which it seems to have and the homeless are willing to accept that help and want to improve their lives which it seems many DO NOT want to do.
Many homeless apparently don't want to live by any rules that shelters might have and hence they'd rather stay outdoors than take the help that's available to them. The same goes for drug/alcohol addicts many of whom don't want to get rehabbed and it doesn't help when we have 'safe injection sites' ready to save their asses if they overdose. People like these should be left to live with the consequences of their own decisions and if they die then they die.
The system is working. There are thousands of people with a roof over their head and food because of these shelters. Nobody has ever claimed that homelessness would magically disappear because of a shelter. It reduces the amount of people on the street. You are seeing things in absolutes- either all in or all out and nothing in between
Our system is working, but VERY inefficiently. The Canadian government is spending an average of almost $130,000 ON EACH HOMELSS PERSON PER YEAR. We should be getting much better results with that kind of funding on each homeless person in the country. This means that there's alot of wastage and/or corruption that so much money spent annually on the homeless issue isn't solving the problem in short order.
This is why the system needs an overhaul and an audit to see where all this money is being spent and then have the system be reorganized to do things better and more efficiently with qualified and non-corrupt people in charge.
I never said that. I said the your reasoning on why we should lower immigration is racist. Your assumption is all immigrants are lazy, don't work and will end up in homeless shelters so we should not allow them in. That is racist. All immigrants are not lazy, unemployed and in homeless shelters.
Go back through my posts and please quote me where I said this? Where did I say all immigrants were lazy, don't work hard and end up in homeless shelters? Find me the quotes in my previous posts that state any of this and post it here please.
What I DID SAY if you bothered to read properly was that we already have plenty of issues that haven't been addressed like housing, enough healthcare and social services, infrastructure issues etc. that HAVE NOT been solved with our existing population so I was asking what kind of insane world do we live in that adding hundreds of thousands of more people to these unsolved problems every year make sense?
This is the kind of idiotic reasoning that I don't understand with some people where they think unchecked mass immigration of people into a country is awesome and yet they refuse to acknowledge all the downsides of doing such a thing. Its like you live in a fantasyland where every immigrant is super hard working and super peaceful and law abiding and that there's zero problems with trying to accommodate and integrate so many people into our country.
And as I've said NO ONE has the courage to tackle the issue of immigrants and certain groups of people causing the vast majority of crime and violence and other problems in our country because that would be considered 'racist' and 'xenophobic' etc. Why do you think we don't ever want to go public and gather and release race based crime statistics? Because it would show clearly that a couple of demographics of groups of non-white people are causing the vast majority of crime, violence and other problems in our nation which obviously would go against the narrative that 'diversity is our strength'.
And also you completely ignored the problem of increased resource usage, increased garbage output and increased carbon emissions that come with bringing in hundreds of thousands more people into Canada every year. Even if the existing Canadian population were able to stabilize or even lower their garbage and carbon emission output it would be completely negated by the hundreds of thousands of new people wiping out those gains and then adding to the problem and then we would have moron Trudeau saying 'Canadians need to do more' to stop climate change. Well its kind of hard to do when that dumbass keeps bringing in more people to pollute the nation.
that is a ironic hypocritical statement. I proposed a tall tower (40, 50 etc) tall tower that sits on a very small footprint. You are the one proposing massive warehouse style buildings that contribute to the urban sprawl and uses massive amounts of land
So just to be clear you think that having a 50 story building where hundreds of individual units each having their own bathrooms, kitchens and heating equipment is MORE efficient and is less wasteful than having a warehouse building with one large common kitchen to feed hundreds of people, one large common bathroom space to have everyone sharing and having one heating and cooling system for one structure? Really??!!?!? OK there.
we do fight climate change. Again you are seeing things in extremes. You see it as either all pollution or none. The topic of climate change is a complex topic and open for different interpretations.
This isn't about 'all or nothing', this is about COMMON SENSE. You can't hope to fight climate change, reduce resource usage and garbage output when you're bringing in HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF NEW PEOPLE into the country. Those people are going to be consuming goods, using energy and social services while outputting huge amounts of carbon emissions and garbage. This is FACT.
If our government cared so much about 'saving the environment' then it wouldn't be bringing in so many people to be contributing to the detriment of the environment. Most people in general aren't very mindful of reducing waste and their carbon footprint already and you want to fight climate change by bringing in MORE people who will also no care about reducing waste, resource usage and their carbon footprint? Yeah that makes TOTAL SENSE.
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@pacman3556
We build housing for homeless people where the homeless people are located you dumb a$$. Not many homeless people in places like Vaughan or Pickering compared to downtown Toronto. Not many homeless people are going to get on a bus to go to the outer surrounding cities.
Are you for real? How can you build supposed 'affordable housing' in the most expensive parts of the city where you're getting the least bang for your buck?? Why would you not find places that are actually cheap to buy, build and renovate so that you can make better use of your money??
Why is it mandatory for homeless to be downtown when the point of renovating existing facilities is to place all the necessary services they need ON SITE so that they don't have to travel to get access to those services to begin with?
Why do homeless and their advocates have so much power as to be able to demand what they want and how they want it rather than adapting to what is given to them that can be just as effective if not more so, just that its different to what they asked for in how its delivered?
Most in areas not suitable to address the homeless needs. And they are private businesses that will rent to other businesses. Or located in industrial types of areas zoned for industrial uses.
There are PLENTY of places out in the suburbs that are more affordable and are suitable to be places for the homeless. Buy those places and renovate them and move the homeless in. Its funny how for people that are supposedly so down on their luck and want help that they're often so picky and choosy as to what help they'll accept.
We should stop letting these people and their supporters to dictate what they want and instead give them what they need even if its not completely perfect. The goal should be to get them off the streets and providing them with the necessary shelter, food and support to get back on their feet ASAP. It doesn't matter if it isn't exactly what they asked for, it should matter that they're getting the help that they need quickly and effectively.
by what standards are you basing that claim off of? Have you worked in homeless shelters? Have you done any research in shelters? Or my guess you are just running on pure emotions and what you feel?
Its not working well by the standards that we still see a ton of bums in our parks and under bridges making it their long term homes. By the standard of seeing drug addicts and alcoholics on the streets drinking and shooting up until they die. By the standards that we see violent and mentally ill people roaming our streets and causing harm to the general public.
I don't know how long you've lived in Toronto/GTA, but I've lived here a long time and things are much, MUCH worse now than they were 20-30 years ago.
The govt is inefficient and useless at everything. You can audit all you want but the govt will always try to cater to everyone's needs instead of what is really needed.
You need to do audits to find the source of the problems, but then afterwards you need to severely punish those involved to stop the wastage and to deter people in the future from doing the same. Right now we sure as hell don't punish anyone nearly enough even when the corruption and guilt is obvious.
Your comments imply this. You mention lots of immigrants which suggest they are the ones using shelters and low income housing. Or why else do you mention immigrants? If you agree that they come here and are productive members of our society and live in homes then what it your point?
Why don't you go look at all the places in the GTA with existing low income housing and see what the demographic breakdown is like? I'm sure you'll see a pattern, namely some groups of people use public/low income housing far more than other groups of people. The same goes for different groups of immigrants.
You know what your problem is and others like you have? That if you see facts that you don't like or align with your narrative that you'll then either find excuses to explain and justify those facts or else outright ignore them.
Immigrants is a great example of this. You talk about immigrants as ONE WHOLE GROUP because it makes the stats look better. If you had any courage you'd talk about immigrants separately by race/ethnic groups and monitor how each group is doing once they arrive in Canada and see if some groups of immigrants and refugees aren't doing much better than others in getting educated, getting jobs, adapting to Canadian culture, the amount of violence and crime each group is committing and so on.
Of course people like you don't want to do this because you know the statistics would skew heavily towards some groups of people being very hard working and successful and while committing very little crime and violence while other groups would be much less successful and commit huge amounts of crime and violence. Obviously we can't gather and publicly release statistics like that because it shows an ugly side of immigration and bringing in people from everywhere that individuals like you don't ever want to deal with and fix, because diversity is always our 'strength' with absolutely no downsides and we can't have Canadians seeing the facts and getting angry and wanting less immigrants can we? How ABSOLUTELY RACIST OF US to even DARE try and want to preserve our nation and not see it get worse.
We take in more immigrants because the people that are already in Canada are no longer having the same amount of children as people in the past did. It was called the "boomer" or "baby boom" generation for a reason. That generation had lots of kids to replace the old people that were dying. Today's generations are getting older and dying and younger generations are not replacing or having babies at the same rate.
Many Canadians aren't having kids because they don't have the time and money to have kids. The government and businesses wants educated people to take as little time off to have kids as humanly possible and to compensate for this by bringing in immigrants to be our baby factories instead. In fact do you know which group of people in Canada has the highest birthrate in the country? Native people. Gee I wonder why? It can't be that these people often don't work and receive plenty of government checks to support themselves with and have plenty of time on their hands to make babies can it? Even minorities can't breed as fast as native people these days because native people are supported by hundreds of millions of Canadian taxpayer dollars every single year and its not like they're busy improving their neighborhoods and getting themselves educated so that their communities can vastly improve over time.
However that is all irrelevant because A- immigrants are not a burden but provide productivity to our country (and you seem to agree or were your comments just racist remarks?). and B- the topic is low income housing not immigration
Not every immigrant that comes to Canada has money to burn. Many like the 40,000 Afghan refugees we're racist for not taking in fast enough come here with almost nothing and where do you think these people will be living? Some form of public housing for most of them to begin with I'm sure. Who's paying for that housing and all the rest of their needs? Our taxpayer money. What about all the medical services, spaces in our schools, spaces in various social programs etc? We're paying for that too.
Also you don't even mention that many of these people coming to Canada aren't exactly spring chickens and in the best of health. Many who come here are middle aged or even retired which means right away we'll have to support them with healthcare services and find spaces for them in long term care facilities. Namely they came here and contributed little to nothing while immediately soaking up valuable social services that we don't even have enough for our existing population, but I love how you leave all these downsides of immigration out.
And again all this doesn't even include the increased garbage and carbon emission output and increased resource usage which again you don't want to address because immigration is NOTHING BUT AWESOME!!
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@pacman3556
We covered this you dumba$$. If 10 towers can fit on a small plot of land then one or two can easily be used as low cost housing. There are numerous places throughout the city that low cost housing is mixed in with condos. Half of Scarborough is like this
Are you blind to simply putting up towers and throwing the homeless in there? We've already done that with little oversight and its led to neighborhoods being more dangerous when you have the homeless/violent/mentally ill etc move in without extensive oversight and help.
If we're going to provide facilities for the homeless you need to build it in such a way that you can closely monitor the progress of the people you're trying to help rather than throwing them into high rises behind closed doors which is a recipe for disaster as we've already seen when we've placed them in hotels and apartments in a temporary manner.
Also you make it sound like the homeless are IMMOVABLE OBJECTS that cannot be moved around and need to be in the downtown core when you can move them elsewhere and probably provide them with just as good or even better support. You can place SOME of these people downtown, but most others should be moved elsewhere where they can be placed in newly renovated facilities that would cost a fraction of trying to build enough condos/apartments to house all the homeless in brand new buildings.
As I said before people like you are the reason why we take forever to get anything done when you can't think of other alternatives to help people than what YOU want.
We already covered this topic. We already do do audits. The govt has always been and always will be inefficient because they play to the emotions of people like you that don't understand topics instead of actually dealing with the topic.
So because some portion of the government is corrupt and inefficient we should never try and overhaul it and change the way things are done so that they're more efficient and less corrupt? OK.
No it isn't again you are just reacting on your angry little emotions because you don't really understand the topic
I have to ask again do you live in the GTA and if so for how long? Because if you've lived here for a long time then there's NO WAY you'd make such a uninformed and idiotic statement that crime and violence hasn't gone way up in the past 10 or so years compared to 30-40 years ago.
Just look at the number of shootings in Toronto:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Toronto
Since the number of shootings started being recorded in 2003, between 2003 to 2015 ONLY 3 TIMES has Toronto gone over 300 shootings in that 13 years time span. Now look at the time between 2016 to 2021 and what do you see? 6 CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF NEAR OR ABOVE 400 SHOOTINGS including an all time record high of 495 in 2019 and we're coming close to another 400 shootings in 2022.
SIX STRAIGHT YEARS of 400+ shootings where before in Toronto we've NEVER hit 400 shootings EVEN ONCE in our history and you're saying crime is going DOWN? LOL 🤣😅😆😂🤣😅
And this is just statistics for shootings and doesn't include violent car jackings, violent robberies, the hundreds of stabbings, random assaults, and students getting shot, stabbed and even killed at or near schools etc.
And all this doesn't even include all the violent crime that has spread out to the other parts of the GTA and surrounding areas where before such crimes were rare.
Seriously get your head out of your ass and look at the statistics once in a while instead of staying in your warm, safe bubble and pretending that things aren't getting worse in the GTA and elsewhere in Canada.
Yes you are correct that is racist. Our nation was built by immigrants
Incorrect. The ENTIRE FOUNDATION of what Canada is today was created by mostly the English and the French. Native people who came over by land bridge from Asia many thousands of years ago did NOTHING to build the country we know today. Immigrants who came afterwards only build upon the foundation that was laid out for them by the founders of Canada.
Canada as we know it today doesn't exist if the English and French don't settle here and build the groundwork for the birth and growth of this country.
Also if you believe refusing mass immigration into one's country is 'racist' then you agree that Japan, South Korea and Israel are hugely racist nations right? Because during the peak of the 2015 migrant crisis none of these 3 countries chose to accept any migrants into their nations and have them settle there in large numbers as they did in Europe.
So why aren't hypocrites like you constantly criticising these 3 nations for being racist and xenophobic for refusing any significant amounts of migrants into their countries when Europe let in millions?
We covered that topic extensively you seem too dim witted to understand that many enviromental problems are world wide not contained to just the area that someone lives in. And I also covered local concerns also.
Except you NEVER addressed this issue AT ALL. Everytime I mention increased climate change emissions, garbage generation and resource usage by more immigrants brought to Canada your response has been 'Well they contribute to Canada's economy so its OK for them to pollute and add to the country's carbon and garbage output.' Also I'm NOT talking about the world, I'm talking about Canada specifically where Trudeau keeps saying 'we need to do more' and yet he keeps bringing in more people to contribute to the problem every year.
You have yet to state EVEN ONE POINT as to how Canada is suppose to reduce waste and emissions output while bringing in hundreds of thousands of people each year to increase that output. Please do so now as I'd genuinely like to hear it.
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@pacman3556
Yes we can put homeless people in there however the topic is putting low income families in there. We currently put low income families in condos which reduces the supply of condos available to people that can afford to buy them. Putting low income families into low income buildings will create more supply. More supply creates lower prices.
Even if you moved every single low income family into supposed 'affordable housing', you're only getting a temporary bump in supply before its swallowed up by buyers and the neverending train of new immigrants/refugees arriving into the country.
Then we go back to having the same problem of not enough supply for all the demand that never stops. If you're bringing in several hundred thousand people into the country EVERY SINGLE YEAR, there's no way you're able to build the hundreds of thousands of new units of housing to accommodate them all before the next year's wave of hundreds of thousands of new immigrants/refugees arrive that also need housing which then have the next year's wave of immigrants crashing down on you etc. with the problem never being solved.
So you're solution is temporary and does nothing to fix the problem long term when you'll ALWAYS have more demand the ability to build enough supply to meet those needs.
Also going back to your other comment. if you believe that low income housing leads to more violence then why should the suburbs be "burdened" and expected to support it all. Let the downtown core have their share also. Why should it be a suburbs "problem"?
Low income housing in itself IS NOT leading to worse neighborhoods and higher crime rates. Its the KINDS OF PEOPLE who live in that low income housing that leads to more dangerous and violent neighborhoods. People like you can only cry 'racism' because you NEVER EVER want to address the problem that some groups of people are far more violent and criminal than other groups of people because that goes against your narrative that minorities are all peaceful and hardworking.
This is why you HAVE TO lump all immigrants together to make the stats look better. You don't want to look at each demographic of people individually and see the ugly truth that not every immigrant group is equally peaceful and non-criminal. Cowards like you will never address these problems because you'd have to acknowledge that unchecked mass immigration IS NOT a good idea and that in most cases certain minority groups are far more violent and criminal than the cauasian majority in this country.
You are a fu$cking idiot if that is what you took out of my comment. I clearly said we build shelters where the people are. The people move and live in downtown.
You keep saying we need to build shelters where the homeless are except you can't understand that PEOPLE ARE MOBILE AND CAN BE MOVED. You make it sound like its an absolute tragedy and abuse against homeless people to move them into the suburbs where its cheaper and more economical to house them there. You don't even have to build new shelters to house them when there's plenty of empty buildings that you can buy and renovate quickly and get them housed much quicker and more cheaply.
Why do we even bother building expensive transit if the goal isn't to connect the city together so that people can move more easily around from the suburbs and outer parts of the GTA to the older inner core of Toronto?
how are you coming to the conclusion the govt is corrupt? Sure there are examples like when the Liberal govt lied to us all and shut down a much needed power plant that cost us billions of dollars to please a few voters that show horrible poor decisions that waste our money (and reinforces point #6 above that the govt caters to self entitled pricks like you that act on emotion instead of facts) however what evidence do you have of corruption?
Are you a MORON? You're literally seeing right now Doug Ford opening up land in the Greenbelt area that's supposed to be protected from development and he's doing because he's received nice contributions from his developer buddies over the years and now he's repaying them for their support.
He should be prosecuted and thrown in jail for corruption and giving favors in exchange for money and yet he's still in power and will likely get his way and open up those lands for development eventually.
The point is its VERY HARD to prosecute and punish politicians properly because they will usually find a way to either get away scot free completely or just get a relative slap on the wrist even if they're caught and found guilty. Nothing will change until those who are caught are severely punished and that doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon.
It hasn't. It has remained relatively flat over the years. And as someone that lives in the city I can tell you that my neighborhood has actually gotten even safer. My neighborhood the gangs were broken up decades ago and it is all new families (including many many immigrant families), new condos and homes, new parks.
Now I know that you really don't give a damn about facts and simply choose to ignore every piece of data that goes against your narrative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Toronto
Literally there in you face it says that before 2015 we NEVER EVEN HAD ONE YEAR where shootings came close to reaching 400 in a calendar year and then 2016 to present, we've been AT OR ABOVE 400 SHOOTINGS FOR 6 STRAIGHT YEARS with 2022 heading towards being the 7th.
In just the past couple of days since you last posted in several shootings across the GTA, one woman was murdered in cold blood working at her job at a gas station and several other people have been seriously injured after being shot. Toronto is averaging MORE THAN A SHOOTING A DAY where before 2014 we've NEVER done so and you're STILL saying 'everything is fine bro, its all in your head'?!? Really??!?!?!
You can't respond to these statistics which is why you outright ignore them. I get it bro when facts don't agree with your opinions just ignore it all and pretend they don't exist.
My God you are a fuc$cking idiot. We covered this topic extensively....try and follow along. We DON"T have mass immigration into our country you mo$ron. We have an entire system of laws, regulations etc that allow people into the country. We have an entire Immigration System and Policy.
How is it not mass immigration when Canada is trying to increase its population by more than 1% per year through immigrants/refugees? Heck there are some people who are even MORE INSANE and want Canada to reach 100 million people by 2100. That's 750,000 new people EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
How in the HELL Is that not MASS IMMIGRATION when that's the stated goal of our government and our standards are so high that we don't even care if they're disabled or elderly because it would be discriminatory to reject them for those reasons?
Because the topic is low income housing in Toronto you dumb fu$ck. These are three other nations that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. I could probably educate your dumb a$$ on those three countries also but it is not the topic and they have nothing to do with low income housing in Toronto
This topic is more than just low income housing. You just don't want to talk about it because it would require you to explain why Japan and South Korea can say no to large numbers of immigrants and migrants and not be called racist all the time and yet when if some people in Canada want that we're nothing but racist, white nationalists/supremacists instead of acknowledging that many Canadians want less immigration for the same reasons the Japanese and South Koreans want less immigration.
I went point by point through your comment about two comments ago. Go back and reread. Again if you didn't let your fragile little emotions get in the way of things you would have read and understood my comments.
I went back and read EVERY SINGLE POST YOU MADE in our discussion and your only answer to one aspect of this problem is 'High rises are more efficient in housing people. We just need to build more and everything will be fine bro!' and 'Climate change is a world wide problem so we can't do anything about it in Canada bro'
You NEVER ONCE addressed how bringing in hundreds of thousands of new people into the country won't increase the amount of resource usage, the increased amounts of infrastructure and social service usage and the increased amounts of garbage and emissions output by all these new people that we keep bringing in year after year.
The fact is you can't explain how bringing in so many people doesn't negatively impact Canada and how much more waste and resource usage will be created with so many new people coming here every year and you choose to ignore the data and say 'you've already answered the question' when you never really did.
Climate change is a world problem, but Canada should be looking to reduce its own impact on the world by controlling what it can do within its own borders. Bringing in tons of new people into this country every year goes against fighting climate change and you can't come up with a reasonable LIE to explain otherwise which is why you simply ignore the question.
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