Comments by "UzuMaki NaRuto" (@UzumakiNaruto_) on "Chow slams the province’s plan to remove major Toronto bike lanes" video.

@benfranklin1770 Yeah that's why bike lanes are so unsuccessful in the Netherlands right? They have the best biking infrastructure in the world which is why so many people there get around with their bikes. Because ITS SAFE AND EASY TO USE. Maybe if we did the same here more people would feel more comfortable in using bike lanes to get around the city, especially downtown.
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Bikes aren't the problem. Even if you removed all the bike lanes it wouldn't change a damn thing because you know why? Who's preventing all the people who stop in live lanes of traffic to pickup or drop off people or to pickup something up quick? Who's preventing delivery trucks from stopping right in front of businesses to do their deliveries without a care in the world about all the traffic that they're stopping from moving? Traffic cops constantly ticket these trucks, but it does nothing to stop it because they see it as apart of the cost of doing business and then they just take their pile of tickets to court and get them to reduce the fines. The point is not being able to keep major streets clear of idle vehicles is a MUCH bigger problem than bike lanes.
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Are you guys all Ford employees? LOL
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@mortiz443 listen dummy I live on bloor and royal york and yes there is it's a stupid concept this is why the are changing the bloor lane back to 2 lanes Why not tell that to the Dutch who have built AMAZING biking infrastructure which is why its so safe and easy to use and its why so many people there bike to get around instead of using cars or transit? Are you saying the Dutch got it wrong as we got it right? 🤣😂🤣😅🤣
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@tbl268 Especially in Canada where it's frozen half the year. You could make it 100% safe and still no one would cycle. The convenience comfort and speed of cars is why people drive. I disagree. If Toronto had even half as good biking infrastructure as the Netherlands does, I 100% guarantee you that many more people would be biking or using small e-vehicles to get around more. Number one reason above anything else why people don't bike more is SAFETY and lack of good infrastructure. All you have to do is go down to the east and west beaches where they have dedicated bike paths running along the shoreline and guess what? There's ALWAYS tons of people using it. Why? BECAUSE ITS SAFE. Sure in the winter its abit more difficult because you have to deal with the cold, but all you have to do is dress warm and in recent years Toronto barely gets more that a couple of major snowfalls and the rest of the time its either no snow or just a few centimeters. Also ask yourself why in the suburbs of Scarborough, Markham, Richmond Hill etc. why almost no one walks even in perfect summer weather? You can drive around for hours and see barely anyone using the sidewalks in the suburbs. Why is that? Could it not be because there's nothing to do there and that anything that you want to get to is usually a long walk away and so its easier to just drive? Compare that to downtown where even in freezing cold, there's always tons of people walking around. Why is that? Because there's tons of stores and businesses that are within easy walking distance to their homes there. The point is no one walks around in the suburbs because its difficult to do so and its the same with bikes where more people aren't biking because the infrastructure SUCKS.
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@tbl268 You are conflating recreational cycling with cycling for transportation. My family has bikes and we got for rides all the time. Doesn't mean we cycle to work. Cycling is not inclusive there is a small percentage who actually CAN cycle where as even disabled people can drive. Again there's no way you can convince me that if Toronto had the same cycling infrastructure as the Netherlands does that many, MANY more people wouldn't be biking around the GTA. The main reason why is because ITS SAFE AND EASY to do so. Why do you think that within all those countless downtown condo towers in the city's core where tens of thousands of people live that probably the majority of people either don't even own a car or use it much less than people living in the suburbs? Because they DON'T HAVE TO use a car. Its easy to walk or bike or take the TTC to get where you need to go downtown and so people choose not to buy a car or use it sparingly if they do own a car. The Netherlands makes it extremely easy to bike to get around and to park their bikes at their destination and so tons of people do so. Toronto/GTA and most North America cities are the exact opposite and make it extremely hard to do the same and so fewer people do so. I love cars and I LOVE to drive, but I also wouldn't mind using my bike to get around even for short trips if it wasn't so hard and unsafe to do so. You keep saying people don't bike more, but you refuse to acknowledge much of the reason that's the case is because of the lack of biking infrastructure and how poorly designed Toronto/GTA is outside of the old parts of the city. Everything here is pushing you to drive and so that's what most people do if they can afford it. Cycling is not inclusive there is a small percentage who actually CAN cycle where as even disabled people can drive. Are you saying the vast majority of Canada's population are disabled? Otherwise why wouldn't the vast majority of people be able to bike to get around other than its not safe and easy to do so? How much do you want to bet that if you transported Toronto's population to the Netherlands that they wouldn't be biking much, MUCH more than they do now?
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@tbl268 Toronto isn't the Netherlands. They don't get snow or cold weather. You are free to share the road. It's a waste of tax payers money to develop infrastructure that is unusable half the year. Cycling is literally the least accessible mode of transportation I can think of. A couple of things here. First as I said in recent years at least in the GTA the winters haven't had that many huge snowfalls, maybe just 2-3 really major ones the entire winter and then the rest is smaller ones or just cold days without much snow on the ground. Secondly just to be clear are you REALLY saying that Canadians who are born into living with cold and snow are somehow LESS capable of adapting to riding a bike in the winter than the Dutch who STILL ride in the winter regardless? REALLY?????!?! 🤣😂🙂😂🤣😅😆 Even if the Netherlands has generally more milder winters, that doesn't stop them from simply dressing appropriately and going out to bike anyways. Canadians might not bike in the winter as much, but they still walk in the cold and the snow all their lives, so how is it possible that they're LESS EQUIPPED than the Dutch to face snow and cold while biking? Just do a Youtube search and type in 'Netherlands winter biking' and you'll see a bunch of videos on how the Dutch adapt to be able to cycle in the winter and yet somehow WE can't do the same??!?! Cmon now.
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@tbl268 Dude. Just Youtube search 'Netherlands winter biking' and there's videos of snow on the ground in that country and yet you STILL see the Dutch cycling. Are you saying those videos are faked or something?!?!?! We Canadians live with the cold and the snow all our lives and yet biking is somehow completely out of the question? THAT'S the redline where we're incapable of adapting and overcoming?!?!? REALLY? LOLOLOLOL!!!
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@tbl268 We can all walk in the freezing cold and snow perfectly fine, but biking is somehow too much to adapt to? OK there. LOL Also you didn't look up the Netherlands during the winter where they ALWAYS make it a priority to clear off the bike lanes and sidewalks so that people can get around. So snow isn't that much of an issue for them and it certainly isn't for us when again we don't even get that many heavy snowfalls these days. Lets come back to this discussion in a few months after we count how many major snowfalls the GTA gets this winter. It will almost for sure be under 5 big ones and most likely 2-3.
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@tbl268 Yes, cycling and walking are two completely different animals. It's weird that has to be explained to you. Its NOT 'two different animals'. If you dressed warm enough to walk in minus degree weather, then you're warm enough to bike in minus degree weather. Biking in cold weather isn't 100x harder than walking in cold weather which is why people do both despite bad weather. Its hilarious that you believe that Canadians who live with the cold and snow all their lives are completely incapable of doing things like biking during the winter when they're able to do all sorts of other activities during the winter all the time.
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@mr8966 I'm not a huge fan of Chow, but she at least has some common sense to work with people from other parties unlike many conservatives that won't ever agree or compliment anyone that isn't apart of their party because they probably think its a weakness and it hurts their chances of staying in power.
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If bike infrastructure is built well and its widespread AND SAFE TO USE then plenty of people will use it. If anywhere in Canada had the kind of biking infrastructure that the Netherlands had, I guarantee you that many more people would be using it to get around. All you have to do is look at the east and west beaches that have dedicated bike paths along the shoreline and how there's constantly people biking there to know that there are many people who enjoy biking and would do it more often if it wasn't so dangerous to bike on the streets.
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Sure some bikers are a problem, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't get more people to bike or use small e-vehicles to get around.
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@tbl268 Cycling is a niche mode of transportation less than 1% of the Canadian population uses on a regular basis. It's a waste of tax payers money. Its 'niche' because its DANGEROUS to bike around Toronto and especially in the suburbs. I live in the suburbs and I think its an easy fix to build bike infrastructure here when all you have to do is convert empty sidewalks that no one uses to dual use pedestrian/cycling/electric vehicle lanes so that you can have bike lanes without taking lanes away from cars. In downtown Toronto that's a different story though because people actually do walk and use sidewalks so bike/electric vehicle lanes are necessary and if they were everywhere, I bet they would significantly help with reducing traffic downtown.
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Nearly as insufferable as Doug Ford is.
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