Comments by "UzuMaki NaRuto" (@UzumakiNaruto_) on "Defeat for Ukraine, Bakhmut Falls, Russia in Full Control; Kiev, West in Denial" video.

The Germans had much superior artillery firepower and it was well-positioned to both destroy the various forts, and to cut supply lines. They did. Using assault tactics developed in the Argonne, the Germans systematically reduced the forts and caused much greater casualties than the French did. It was, in effect, a meat grinder. You do realize that the Germans only took slightly fewer losses than the French during the whole Verdun campaign right? You make it sound like the Germans were trading 10 to 1 in their favor or something when the real number was pretty close so if the Germans were trying to bleed the French dry they failed when they took almost as many casualties as their enemy. Alexander is correct; Bahkmut was a trap the Ukrainians fell face-first into, and bought time to raise an entire new arm and build extensive fortifications to repel Ukrainian offensives. If that's what you and Alexander want to believe to try and justify all the Russian losses in men and equipment go right ahead, but the truth is the supposed 2nd best military in the world threw away thousands of men and countless amounts of equipment to take one small devastated city when at the beginning of the war they were taking kilometers per day with far fewer losses. Congrats to the Russians on their 'success' and I truly hope they continue to attack and have more of these kinds of successes that keep grinding their forces down into dust.
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Why do people like you and Alexander celebrate this as some great victory? I mean its obvious why you'd do it, but still its insane to me that all the pro-Russian hacks make it sound like they just took Kiev or something when all they took was a small city that's been turned into a pile of ruble. It took the supposed 2nd best military in the world nearly a year to accomplish this while suffering tens of thousands of losses and countless equipment losses. Congrats on that 'victory' Russia. We can only hope they can have more of these kinds of great victories.
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Ukraine definitely took significant losses fighting in Bakhmut, but the Russians took even more losses in winning Bakhmut. If you want to call taking all those losses in men and equipment for this pile of rubble a victory than go ahead. Ukraine will happily take these trades all day.
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@JimCOsd55 I think you mean many pro-Russian hacks like Alexander prayed that losing Bakhmut would shake western resolve in continuing their support of Ukraine. In reality it isn't happening for a long time yet if not ever.
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Alexander knows that Bakhmut will fall back into Ukrainian hands eventually so why bother calling it anything else?
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When we see units mounted in these vehicles we will know that the AFU has committed it's strategic reserve and that the real test for the Russian Army is at hand. If the Russian Army breaks this attack the AFU will be finished as an offensive force. It will be interesting to see what the Russians have left in the tank in men and especially in equipment. They've taken so many losses in Bakhmut that I wonder if the Ukrainians are able to break through the Russian frontline that they wouldn't perhaps have another Kharkiv like offensive where the Russian reserves sent to stop the advance won't be strong enough to do so and the Ukrainians will just keep on going.
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@CyrilSneer123 Dear lord man the Russians have thousands of tanks. Who have taken losses in Bahkmut? The PMC Wagner? That's the not the Russian army. Do you get it yet? Ukraine has been fighting a PMC not the Russian army. And I suspect the Chechens may replace them in the area and again they're not Russian army. You need to realise that fighting a war of attrition against Russia is doomed to fail. There's a difference between having tanks in storage and having tanks that actually function that you can take to the battlefield. If the Russians have plenty of tanks then why are they resorting using many T-62s, T-64s and even T-55s when at the beginning of the war they were using mostly T-72 and T-80 era tanks? Also ask yourself if they had so many armored vehicles in reserve then how come we've never seen them launch any major armored offensives in Ukraine since the Kiev retreat? Why have they been launching infantry heavy attacks that have resulted in massive casualties? Also yeah Wagner is 'not the Russian army', they just get their recruits from Russia and use Russian army equipment and supplies. So whether or not these soldiers are apart of the Russian army officially or apart of Wagner, all these thousands of men dying ARE Russians. Its just interesting to see where at the beginning of the war the Russians were measuring their advances in kilometers per day and now they're measuring their advances in meters per day and now the apparent capture of one small city is seen as a major victory. If THIS is what the Russians consider 'success' I hope they keep having many of these kinds of successes.
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Dude Russia just took a small city. Its not like they took Kiev. Cmon man have some common sense. It took the Russians a better part of a year to take this one place and you call this a major victory compared to at the beginning of the war when Russia was measuring their advances in kilometers per day? They won a pile of rubble while losing thousands of men and countless amounts of equipment. I really hope Russia will have more of these kinds of victories.
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@Humbulla93 Better to be NATO's bitch than Russia's slave like Belarus has become. Funny how so many former USSR nations feel the same way and were RUNNING TO THE WEST to join NATO/EU the first chance they got rather than stay in an alliance with Russia.
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@ChrisCollier Well he was a dumbass for criticising Ukraine while BEING IN UKRAINE and then when he was detained last time he didn't learn his lesson and kept going. He should've left when the war began and then be like Alexander and criticise Ukraine all he wants from a distance.
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I wonder how will the Western media spin it when (not if) the Russians achieve the objective and total victory of their 'special operation'? Ukraine is clearly running out of men and options, at this rate the Russians will achieve their objectives before the Autumn. The Russians failed long ago in their 'total victory' objectives which was taking the entirety of Ukraine and turning it into another Belarus. Also if you truly believe that Ukraine is running out of men and resources then why aren't the Russian advances as fast and large as they were at the beginning of the war? According to you the Ukrainians should be on their last legs. Why not launch a truly large offensive and really break the Ukrainian army?
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How can you call it an 'achievement' when it took so many thousands of casualties, countless amounts of equipment lost and resources used to take one small city? I'm sure if the Ukrainians wanted to be so wasteful and not care about losses they could just counterattack around the flanks of Bakhmut and eventually take it back. They're smarter than that though and any attack they'll launch in the future won't be nearly as costly and wasteful.
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@comingviking Its not nearly as important if you can't use it going forward. And even if you do deem it important you still have to weigh the costs of gaining that objective compared to its value. If it took you a large part of a year and thousands of casualties and countless amounts of hard to replace armored vehicle losses to take it, to me it wasn't worth it. If you were fighting for Kiev then sure at least you can somewhat justify those massive losses, but for a place like Bakhmut? Not worth it in my opinion. It would've been better to not fight for Bakhmut and continue to train your new recruits while saving your armored forces to hold everything you've gained so far and if needed to use it against the anticipated Ukrainian counter offensive.
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