Comments by "Gabor Rajnai" (@gaborrajnai6213) on "Living Ironically in Europe"
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So if Romanians capture Transylvania, with western troops its as things should be done, if Hungarians go there by not even firing a bullet by a peaceful resolution,its aggressive expansion. When the Czechs treat their Slovaks as second class citizens, its the natural state of things, which should be accepted, when Slovakia granted its own state, its a nazi occupation. I guess your brain is washed out by those bolshies too. Not to mention that all those lands which Hungary cruelly stole form Czechoslovakia is by some strange reasons not in Slovakia, but present day Ukraine, where the Rusins live, whom you refer to, which ethnic group only the Hungarians recognized like ever, neither the Czechslovaks did, nor the Soviets, neither the Ukrainians. Talking about how those wonderful nations treat their minorities. Not that caring about minorities wouldnt be considered as a Russian sympathy nowadays in the enlightened west. The wonderful part of slavic doublethinking, is the crying when they are minorities, yet starting an agressive Ukrainization, Romainization, Slovakization, whenever they get into power.
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@porphyry17 You know that both the Mongols, and the Turks offered us alliance dear. Do you think that a bunch of uneducated westerners would stand any chance against the people, who sacked China? So, when a Byzantine emperor writes down, that the Hungarians are huns its bogus, when another writes down they are onogurs, thats a fact. Well, I have a problem with that my slavic friend, you are crying constantly that we are finnougric and onogurs as you wrote it are a tukic tribe, so your claims are pretty much unfounded on that ground. On another you are right, nomadic tries werent organized around nationality, but around common interests, thatswhy we made blood oaths, and merged 12 tribes into one nation, some of them Scythians, some of them turks, and some of them finnougric, some of them khazars into the Magyar nation, it was a pretty much standard practice back then. And I still would crack, that if you would be Romans, then the immigrating Hungarian tribes wouldnt find a barren wasteland in Transsilvania, but the most flourishing and highly sophisticated culture of Europe. We made Transslyvania the economic powerhouse of Europe in a mere 200 years from where 80% of all the precious metals arrived to the market, built all of the castles and forts, founded Europe's third oldest universitymeanwhile you couldnt build a stone hut there for 3000 years, couldnt train a scribe there for 3000 years, and noone had any firsthand experience with you for 3000 yers. Descendant of the latins, yeah, if I would be an italian I would feel offended. If you would stick to the Albanian descent you could at least show up some desolate cities on the outskirts of the empire, but you rather stick to this hiding in the mountains without any trace BS and deducing your entire history based on your language, because nothing else proves that you have anything in common with the european culture at all.
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@Kalimdor199Menegroth Lol, my dear friend maybe you heared something about that little thing called THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA, which is visible from the outer space. If that fortification didnt stop them, what chance your underdeveloped castles would give. Without money, because we could stop them, when we were one of the richest countries in Europe with virtually all of the precious metal production situated in the Carpathians. Why do you think the pope betted on the Hungarians above anyone else, why do the byzantines allied with the Catholic Hungarians instead of their orthodox Romanian friends, and licked our king's asses for 400 years, why Andrew II led the single biggest heavy cavalry detachment into the Crusades with 10.000 knights alone when the whole crusader army from all over Euope was maybe 20.000 strong, and how the turks gave him and his army a free pass on land back to Hungary untouched, which they never offered to any other crusader king? So again, if byzantines writes about Hungarians are huns its bogus, if Herodotus writes about the dacians its a fact. The difference is that Herodotus never met a dacian in person, meanwhile byzantines sent their very best diplomat and scribe, Priscus into Attila's camp, so they were pretty much experts on hunnic matters, and they pretty much documented everything unlike Romanians.BTW its the same stuff as the onogurs. Hunnic mythology and Hungarian mythology are both steppe cultures, they are common, and besides that only genetics is conclusive, which actually confirms that the oldest kings and the huns were relatives.
Yeah, I know, the 3 states, where Gandalf the Grey fought the Balrog, I know the creative writing skills of our Romanian friends, but the reality is, that even Coloman the Booker had that territory under Hungarian control. And yes, from where do you think those stone fortifications and castles shown here come from? Those ones which are referred to as more elegant and more numerous than their western european counterparts? From the backwater economic area? Why does the gold placer mining equipment is called even today as hungarian riffles, why doesnt it called Romanian riffle or dacian riffle? And what do you think where did we mined those gold? On the great hungarian plain? Literally all of the mines in the Carpathians were found and developed by Hungarians, even now, where you mine your gold and kill our wildlife with cyanide, those mines were well known, and used by Hunagrians in the middle ages. How could transsilvania give the best mathematicians to the world? Sure living standards dropped a bit, when Spanish raided South America, and precious metal prices went down, and in conclusion we couldnt amintain as strong an army
Yep youto completely wipe the ottoman invaders. You are right, Trannsylvania was the second least underdeveloped area in Hungary, it was a booming economy before 1918, Hungarians built there and even in Romania all the oil production, from which a single well was produced more than the whole European production combined. then you romanians came, and made it a dirt poor beggar state without even a normal road infrastructure. Nowadays it fares better, because the billions of hungarian investments there, mainly Kolozsvár, but as you pointed out you still try to repress Szekelyland economically, so in overall, its still dirt poor compared to any of the Hungarian regions. But honestly culturally your Romainan presence only added even to Kolozsvár nothing except when you tried to demolish the thousand years old cathedral on the main square in search for some historical evidence of your presence there, and then painted the whole square to red yellow and blue, which was disgusting.
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@Kalimdor199Menegroth So you try to explain me, that the biggest world superpower of the medieval ages couldnt construct a better fortification, than albanian goatherders. Nice try kiddo. BTW the great wall on its size is longer than the distance from Finland to the Mediterranean, and Mongols did need to breech it, even BEFORE they had access to those sophisticated siege engineers. I can tell ya exactly where Genghis passed it, at the Wusha fortress, which is THE STRONGEST POINT of the whole fortification system, what is not a coincidence, because that was the most likely point of a western attack against Chinese core territories. Because Chinese werent total idiots.
There are two reasons why Hunagrians and poles could stop the second invasion, first because we had the wealth and army to do it, but more importantly, because you know there was THE BLACK PLAGUE EPIDEMICS in the mongolian empire, and they couldnt send a full invasion force, then first time they did. Sure fortifications helped to spare the civilian population indeed, not as much the crops, since they attacked in winter. Easier to cross the rivers you know.
Lol Andrew II didnt led his Crusaders against the Ottomans in Europe, because you know in 1200 the byzantine empire was still kindof ok. He went to the Holy lands out of the order of the pope. So to send 10.000 knights through the sea to Palestine, and after a successful campaign marching back to Hungary, meanwhile passing Damascus, Aleppo, and the heartland of the seldjuk forces is a quite unprecedented feat in the history of the Crusades, they were pretty much didnt want to fck with him or his army.
I dont want to sadden you my romanian friend, but noone calls you dacians or romans. By your native state you are called by the outside world as vlachs, and your country is called Walachia, thatswhere we know your albanian origins. We didnt invented it, french, germans and italians did.
We love the idea, that you want one of our biggest king, Matyas to be romanian, thats rather humbling for us that you romanians are soo impressed, but we all know, that he, and his court never for a moment resided in Romania, or Transylvania. Besides, even if its true, it just shows the superior philosophy of the Hungarians, who would elect a very talented Romanian as their king, meanwhile Romanians couldnt get past their racist bigotry. So now tell me how you romanians were supressed by the evil Hungarians, if a romanian could even be a fcking king you idiot. What else do you want to be? God?
Ohh yeah, you dacians were mining a ton of gold in the Carpathians, and still couldnt build a fort, and aqueduct, or anything otu of it. So where did the money go? Into a swiss bank account or what? Oh yeah I heared about your corrupt leaders, maybe thats a national tradition, but even if they were indeed corrupt, the least we could find is a luxury condo of the paleolitic Ceausescu.
Again I would go back, those are called Hungarian riffles and not Romanian riffles for a reason. Because we invented them, not the Romanians, remember, yo were hiding in the mountains, when anything needed to be done.
Sure oil production is a native invention, dont get me into laugh, the whole concept of finding your oilfields was developed by Loránd Eötvös, and his torsion pendulums. You know he is called the father of geophysics, not Radu, the Hairyfeet. I dont want to sadden you that the first oil refinery was opened in Pittsburg Pensylvania in 1853. Oh by the way, you had 20% of the total rail network of the Hungarian kingdom, meanwhile the core Hungarian territory had 5% of it, that underdeveloped Transylvania was under the Hungarians. You had the very first asphalt road in Hungary too, an invention, which as far as I remember you rarely used in 2010. I just move around in Transylvania and cry. Looking the clocktower at Segesvar, a real technological marvel, of course created by Germans and Hunagrians, it is ran down, and not working, its raining inside the 500 years old cathedral at Kolozsvar, the main square of Szeben is littered with rubbish, the wonderul Szekely temples are caving inside, with their fantastic floorpaintings destroyed, you sent Herkulesfürdő underwater, demolished 500 century old villages with all of their cultural treasures,another century passes, and NOTHING will remain except the stalinist blockhouses you built there. Just look at the video how the castle of Deva looks, its horrible. And you go back to your natural state of bragging about your language when you dont have any proof of civilization. Barbarians. That happens if you give these treasures to childish nations, instead of preserving them, you destroy them. Just like the slovaks, who set Zolyom castle to fire. That shows, that there are four historic nations in Central Europe, the Poles, the Serbs, the Russians and the Hungarians. All the others are the mutations of those four, by the usual tradition of any slavic country splits into two in every 50 years or so, and rechristens and runs down everything what their predecessors built. Do you think you Romanians are so unique? You are just like the slovaks, or slovenes, or I dont know how they call themselves, seriosly there is no man in this planet, who could differentiate them with their russian flag, triple peak coat of arm, same name, and skying as the main source of income, saxon medieval cities, whom they have nothing to do with, utter disrespect for the history and heritage, rootless nationalistic bullshitting, instead of making marvellous things, crying about your oppressors, and meanwhile making a pogroms and forced bullshitslavization, thats what you do in general, and you are no different. And you wonder why we dont support Ukraine? You know why? Because Lemberg is Lemberg, a jewish city built by the jews, ran by the jews, and we wont learn a new name for it in every 50 years when a new slavic failed state decides that it split into two and rename everything and invent up a bullshit history with dargons and unicorns. We will only support the very first slavic tribe who comes into terms with its existence, and not trying to forge history to look better.
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@Kalimdor199Menegroth Lol I talked about China, smartass, as a medieval superpover I see reading and comprehension is still not a Romanian forte.
So you confirmed, that walls dont mean too much, meanwhile bragging about how a divided Europe with inferior technology could hands down top the mongols, what the Chinese couldnt do, with castles.
The black plague broke out in 1350 in Europe, dear, you know the world is bigger than your little village near the Prut. It took decades while it traversed through the steppes, but it caused turmoils in the dynasties. Regardless King Bela indeed reformed Hungarian military indeed, but not because it wasnt a formidable force before, which could deal with anything in Europe, but because he had to face the strongest military machine of the medieval ages, the mongol military.
Well, no noone ever wrote that Vlachs and Dacians are the same. The chronicles wrote about the dacians, they also wrote about the Egyptians, so by that regard you could call yourself an Egyptian as well. Oh BTW, you invent up everything when the very same chronicles write that Hunagrians are scythians, because of course, if it handles your puprose you forge everything. BTW the dacoroman theory wasnt a thing until 1918, and the whole international historical circle is laughing on it, because its so ovious political propaganda creation, and bogus science.
This producing our own leadership idiocy, is just the useless romanian thinking. John and Matyas were very talented leaders, who considered themselves as Hungarians, why should we check their pedigree, we werent and arent nazi Germany to ask them to prove their true aryan blood. It was perfectly enough that they were talented. Maybe if you Romanians would promote talent instead of your nazi bloodline BS, your country wouldnt look like a stinking hellhole. You know fking your sister not to dilute the goatherder genome, is never a good idea, because it produces... well, Romanians to put it mildly. Oh BTW you slipped the part, that how you poor Romanian were colonized if you even could be kings hmmm? Now just in the opposite show me a Hunagrian king, or prime minister, or any leader of Romania. You cant, because you are the oppressors, also not a very talented one. I would tell ya that real Romans would laugh their ass off, if someone would mention a thing that they could be colonized, you know they were the colonizers, and that alone proves, that you have nothing to do with them, because they had more spine than this.
Lol fort systems, sure buddy, if you think about the 1000 years old collapsing ruins what the real Romans left behind. You could lookat what you did in Deva in a mere 100 years, I would be very suprised if two stones still standed on eachother after 1000 years of neglect. If you would have that fort system, according to your very own logic nomadic Hungarians would never be able to conquer it. But you didnt have WE built those forts, as you described well king Bela did that and all of his successors, all of them.
"It wasn’t until 1851 that Mr. Kier became the first oil baron when he started manufacturing Carbon Oil, a kerosene that would replace whale oil as a fuel for lamps. By 1853, Mr. Kier was making as much as $40,000 a year, a mighty sum, from his new refinery in Pensylvania." Ploiesti "refinery" opens in 1858.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/23/business/energy-environment/oil-makes-a-comeback-in-pennsylvania.html
Nice try though. Yeah sure oil drilling in 1857, thats not drilling you idiot, thats digging a well, by hand. You know because the first oil well, which was actually drilled was made by Colonel Edwin Drake in Cowboyland, Pensylvania in 1859. But I wouldnt count that two drunk Romanian peasants by miracle found a little oil spillage, while they were digging a well for water, thats has even production problems, as long as spillages produce minuscule amounts, because there is no hydrostatic pressure to push out the oil. Your petroleum industy or BTW anyone's petroleum industry would be unthinkable without proper geophysical analysis and wells drilled deeper than 100 m, now thats what Eötvös has done.
So you had the industry, the cities, the railways, the road network, the intelligentsia, and you call Transylvania underdeveloped, while today, you dont even have more than dirt roads, and collapsing houses, and toxic mines polluting every single country in your neighborhood with cyanide, and not a single theater or university, which is not sponsored by the Hungarian government, just to maintain some culture in our anciaent lands, and you are striving on it. Pathetic. Just give up Dragan, and move back to the Prut swamps, there you wont meet the inconvenient truth.
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Lol if Romanians would live there first, then they would build those castles and make civilization there. Who does buy into this BS that you were hiding in the mountains for 1000 years without any trace? Yeah descendants of the Roman Empire, who are not capable of building a dirt road, so a nomadic tribe from the steppes shows them how to build cities and fortify them. If we would use those Lord of the Rings like mythology building, waht the Romanians do, then the Hungarians are part of the Scythian tribal alliance, which was ruled the Carpathian basin according to Herodotus, while he writes exactly nothing about Romanians, and we could even claim Iasi and Moldova based on the Cumans and the Jasz people are Hungarian today, and they owned those territories before the mongol invasion. About the ethnic composition, and the harsh treatment of minorities by Hungarians it speaks volumes, that before 1914 30% of Transylvanian population was German, and under the very liberal Romanian leadership none of them remained, the lucky ones were literally sold to the german government as hostages, others vanished, and maybe found in mass graves. Hungarians are more stubborn they will remain, no matter how much you paint our historical cities into romanian colours. So who is the real oppressor, my dear Romanian friends? We dont ask too much just to give autonomy to the Szekelys, who are a 98% majority in Szekelyland, as we do, with every single minority we have.
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@Kalimdor199Menegroth yeah, dear Ive seen your remnants, your sharlatan archeologists did everything to destroy the 7000 years old disks with szekely rune writings found near Kolozsvár. And what you found instead was a Roman training camp, by Romans, and when I say Romans, I mean the real Romans, you know, who built aqueducts, and the Colosseum, which you couldnt accomplish until the late 19th century. So by what miracle you forgot all of the engineering talent what your claimed ancestors processed? Where are your cathedrals, where your highly educated scolars wrote down the real history of the dacians and the Hungarians? Hungarians arrived in 800, and we had the first latin written codex in 900 AD, you claim, to live here for 3000 years and wrote exactly nothing... You talk a lot about linguistics, but if you would really live here, you wouldnt bullshit around, just show us the triumphal arch with Romania written all over it, because deducing history from linguistics, is like saying that Norway did pillage Troy, because they and the Greeks both speak indogerman. And thats the answer for you for the scythian question as well. Linguistics is part of historiography, but not a very reliable one. Culturally the early Hungarian and Scythian archeological findings are essentially the same, we both have the same mythology, which noone else in Europe has, and the only provable european scythian tribes the Jasz people have two counties in Hungary and zero in Romania. You know those Jasz people, whom Herodotus calls the massagets, and who owned Moldavia until 1300. Hell, your city Iasi is named after them, so no , they were far beyond the Prut.
So you claim you didnt sell them to the germans, then you write down exactly how you sold them. They werent the first though, you got rid of your jews by selling them to Israel, if they had the money, if they didnt they just exterminated under Antonescu, and no even Horthy didnt do that. And where are the mass graves? Just ask your little dictator Ceausescu, as far as I remember you shot him, because you excavated hundreds of victims near Temesvár, your investigators testified they have seen far more than that. And since then you are not particularly interested in searching for those graves, maybe because then it would show us, where are those millions of ethnicities disappeared. Yes we can draw a map, as we like to draw, but the main point, if szekelys revolt tomorrow, you would have no concentrated force to stop them, because thats their country. Period. I dont even know why do you want those lands, the economic underdevelopment is the result of you romanians are stealing money from them and using it for Bucharest, if you dont want those lands and those people, then let them be independent.
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@Kalimdor199Menegroth Nope, real name is Kolozsvár, maybe accepting Klausenburg or Napoca as alternatives but not Cluj, because it never was Cluj, and yes, you undermined the cathedral and the Matyas statue in 1991, when you pathetically tried to find some evidence of your ancient presence there. So my latin friend how do you explain to me please, that your authentic romanian tables DOESNT USE either latin or greek alphabet, but rune writing hmm? We only know one ethnicity in Transylvania, who use rune writing, and suprise suprise, they are not the romanians, but the Szekelys, Herodotus writes about the noble scythes residing in the territory, so what else do we need to add up the findings and the records, thats a perfect match. And we never hidden the fact, that Szekelys were indeed present in the Carpathians before the Hungarian conquest, we formed an alliance with them after we arrived. Your language proves exactly NOTHING, if you would be real romans, you would have known the secrets of writing, engineering, you would have legions, sophisticated culture, you know everything which is associated with the real romans. Because that made them fascinating, not that they were chirping in proto-italian. This whole deducing my culture from my language stuff is such a pathetic slavic effort to fabricate some history for my rootless nation thing. Yeah, we always welcomed cultured beings to live with us, and write about us, and if they decided to live with us, we considered them Hungarian. Because thats what you fascist romanians dont understand about the Hungarians, to be a Hungarian was never about where did you born, but if you wanted to associate with the tribes and call yourself a Hungarian or not. As for me, Im 90% german 10% byzantine greek, whose earliest ancestor migrated to Hungary as the scuptor of Bela III, and meanwhile I consider myself a Hungarian. It is an older tradition than even before we entered the Carpathian basins we welcomed different tribes. Thatswhy we are the Scythians and the huns as well, because we have the iranian words, the turkic words actually more than finnougric, we had both nations in our ranks, which were sealed with the blood oath we made with each other in the Khazar empire, thatone is even documented by Constantine. And since genetics is an absolute game changer, this is a scientific fact now, instead of some wordplays. Yes, massagetae are the Jasz people educate yourself, and that they lived near Iran in 600 BC doesnt mean, they didnt live in Moldova until 1200 AD, because you know there is a little millenial gap between those two dates, and maybe you heared something about migration. And yes, they are proud Hungarians, with the Cumans as well, with Jasz and Cuman identity, if you dont get it then read back the blood oath part.
As the german part I dont buy into that. First of all, because Im german minority, schwab if you are interested, and you know what the German government did never played that trick to any other nation. Sure they would welcome you as a volksdeutsch, but they were strictly evacuated from Romania because otherwise their life would be in danger, and thatone I know from my saxon friends, who were evacuated that time. Sometimes they visit back and tell the horror stories how romanian police checking their papers and force them to speak romanian after they chased them out.
Well, the two difference between how you treated the jews and how we treated them, is that in fact you were a free country when Antonescu made his massacres, meanwhile Hungary was occupied by the Germans, when those hungarians were deported, the second one, is that Romania had some ports to send them to Israel, meanwhile Hungary is landlocked since trianon. Sure we should have to do a lot more for them, but couldnt entirely stop the deportations. So your logic is like if Poland would be responsible for the holocaust, which clearly they arent. And meanwhile Hunagry still has a vibrant jewish community noone remained in Romania.
No, you get it wrong, when the deportations started, Horthy was out of power, and Szalasi, a german puppet was doing the dirty work. Meanwhile Antonescu hanged the jews from butcher's hooks in Bucharest.
I told you the exact locations of the mass graves, they were excavated in Temesvár, which you renamed to Timisoara after you tried to forge history again. Yeah, sure "Romanians", thats entirely based, that you dont find massgraves filled with real Romanians in Bucharest, or some real romanian place, but near a saxon city.
Lol you see, its not that easy to forge history, as you Albanian goatherders think.
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Well, Orban wins because he redraws election districts in every 3 months or so. He monitors which regions are opposition and which are fidesz voters, so he chains up massive fidesz voting areas with opposition voting areas to dilute the result. It works like for example Pecs, a city in southern Hungary, which is pretty much the most cultured city in Hungary, with the 4th most populous in hungary and hates Orban and his maffia as hell, has 2 election districts, but none of them consists the actual city itself has the majority, but all the small villages around. So even if the city votes 100% against Orban he could get his man in. It is so ridiculously made, that villages from western Pecs are chained to the Eastern Pecs voting district, just to rig out the result. So its not a miracle that he wins, on the contrary its a miracle, that the opposition could win one of the districts.
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Well, the reason in a nutcase, why we will never side up with any of our neighbours. Ok Antall made the mistake of giving weapons to the Croats in their civil war, because he was an idiot, he should have given weapons to Croats and Serbs too to kill eachother, but that was the closest and only call. Although Serbs actually have a country and an identity, which is a curious rarity in eastern Europe, only the Poles, the Hungarians the Bulgarians and the Serbs are real nations around, while Croats are the generic slavic nonexisting nation who only stole some Italian cities, and don't even know who they are, and we are pretty sure they will eventually divide further. Nothing personal, but we already seen it in Chocoslivecia, Yoggerslavia and other artificial states without any nationhood, doomed to fail. We don't even care to rewrite their townnames on maps anymore, because it would change name by the time the ink dries, and they don't have such a rich fantasy as Tolkien when they invent up some history for themselves. Ok, they actually somewhat better with their tableware flag, than the other nation founded by none other than Adolph Hitler, the Slovaks, or Slovenes, or I dont know how do they call themselves, because frankly there is no human on the surface of this planet who could differentiate two nations, who call themselves Slovenes, has a red, white blue banner with a triple mountain as coat of arms, and living in stolen hungarian and german cities between the mountains, and their only historic act ever is that they are the only nation in Earth which was specifically forbidden by the UN to use their name outside of their country, because it was occupied by someone else. Yes we get it, that these are slavs, but being a slav turns out to be rather shallow foundation of a nation.
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