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aaron patterson
an acorn and an oak tree are not "the same thing in the end", just as an oak table and an oak tree are the not "the same thing in the end", hence the linguistic distinctions.
acorn : the nut of the oak tree
tree : a usually tall plant that has a thick, wooden stem and many large branches
"acorn, plant, tree, organism, object...all the same thing when you approach from a scientific definition standpoint." this is just downright wrong, hence scientific distinctions. with your special logic, an oak tree is a cactus, yet scientifically speaking one is of the beech family, Fagaceaeand, and the other is a member of the plant family Cactaceae within the order Caryophyllales...
stop spreading nonsense, please.
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aaron patterson
yes, because i've "[spun] out of control and [have yelled] 'swear word filled insults' at [you]", right? lol. the only one "clouding the truth" right now is you ;)
likewise, an acorn is but only one part of a complex process that yields an oak tree. try sticking an acorn in an isolation tank that shields the nut/seed from sunlight, soil, moisture, etc, to see what happens!
sticking with the metaphor, the pregnant woman is the suitable environment in which an acorn becomes an oak tree; you're basically disregarding the entire environment for the sake of an acorn.
another metaphor would be 'a forest of paper, pencils, and chairs'; this is called a metaphor for good reason...
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"The 'source of your problems' is not the institution of the government itself but the private corporate interests that have control over representatives. Only seeing "the government" as the problem is to be looking at it in a very elementary way."
you're wrong. the issue of private corporate interests co-opting gov't in order to ultimately further fulfill said interests, over and above humanity's general interest, is an issue inherent to gov't itself. it's a gov't's duty to prevent this sort of thing from happening in the first place. the purpose of a gov't is to govern, hence the responsibility of societal issues like the aforementioned issue falls upon the heads of those who are in charge of controlling such activities. the argument your making is akin to, say, a parent blaming his or her children for sweet talking the babysitter into allowing them to stay up all night and eat the bag of sugar in the cupboard when, in fact, the onus of the "crime" clearly falls on the babysitter. gov'ts is an inherently faulty institution which, naturally, has allowed itself to become even more corrupted than it might usually be. gov't isn't the only problem, but it's certainly the source of our problems.
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On another note, though, I'm not quite sure what to make of his work nowadays. I used to be enthusiastic about it, but, for one, the lizard bit doesn't really factor into that; I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's a little farfetched with not enough evidence, not even circumstantial evidence, unless I've something. Also, from the stuff I've watched or read, he seemingly doesn't offer-up much information, aside from metaphors and analogies. That's just my opinion, though. I know nothing.
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Still, if I was in a gang, and our opposition announces and perhaps even believes they've captured or killed my gang's leader, when in fact they hadn't, I would play along with it. I mean, what an advantage, having your opposition believe you're leaderless when in fact that isn't the case. With that being said, it's possible he's dead. However, I still have reservations as to whether or not he is indeed dead, and, if that is the case, that the U.S. killed him.
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Of course, on one level, you shouldn't; nonetheless, governments have basically seized and claimed the legal rights to all resources which were once commonly shared amongst man; therefore, if you're caught hunting your own food without a license, you could be slapped with a huge fine if not thrown in jail.
But, also, I'd be very careful with the words you're using. Things like education, infrastructure, communication, legal support, police, national defense, and foreign aid, in my opinion, didn
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Still, if I was in a gang, and our opposition announces and perhaps even believes they've captured or killed my gang's leader, when in fact they hadn't, I would play along with it. I mean, what an advantage, having your opposition believe you're leaderless when in fact that isn't the case. With that being said, it's possible he's dead. However, I still have reservations as to whether or not he is indeed dead, and, if that is the case, that the U.S. killed him.
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So, you said, "taxes is not theft, its just money we all agree to pay for paying police, ambulances, and infrastructure and stuff."
I don't agree to pay it, and, according to you, I'm unable to opt-out — yet it's not theft?
What is theft then? If I coerced you into giving me your hat by threatening you with prison, court dates, fines and the whole shebang, even though you didn't want to give me your hat, in your opinion, it's not stealing...?
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