Comments by "clearstonewindows" (@clearstonewindows) on "Peter Santenello" channel.

  1. I feel like every Muslim I've worked with in Salt lake and pak have just aligned so well because of our shared family values.
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  2.  @jedimindtrixr4kidz294  no, family importance, the Muslim I've meet here in Salt lake don't seem to oppress women. The 2 women i worked with where liberal outspoken funny women. You know the first female member of congress was my kids great-great-grandmother, she was a polygamist. And we had the first women to vote until the federal government took it away.
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  3. ​ @Dawn-zi8pz heaven can be hear and now I love the restored gospel of Jesus Christ
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  4. Wickedness never was happiness
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  5.  @rbesfe  I have 3 family members that have same sex attractions and both act on those attractions. We still hang and love each other. All have separated from me more than I from them. They are invited to family parties, but don't come.
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  6. Yep no horns, and we're not trying to steel anyone's babies.
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  7.  @PeterSantenello  Yep you explore and let us decide. Like true journalism. It's a delight to explore the world with you.
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  8. Sounds like you had a very different experience than me growing up. My kids, my siblings and I love the Cult of Jesus Christ, It's freaking awesome.
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  9. Yep no creepy music, with weird shoots
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  10. Great to hear your testimony!
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  11. "silly" is a good word because I can make any belief system sound "silly" For example, you believe that lighting struck the water and created a robot and that robot every so small could make a copy of itself....
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  12. Keep following Jesus Christ! I love the gospel of Jesus Christ. The restored gospel of Jesus Christ has changed my life 🙌
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  13. This is true, lots of wards, stakes etc help.
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  14.  @ashleys637  they are unhappy, and it's not because of me or anyone else. The are unhappy becaus the choices and worldview they have taken have made them unhappy. Don't blame others for your emotions. You are the only one in charge of those.
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  15.  @greenlimabean  Well said. Society would be so much better if kids had moms and dads.
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  16.  @hichamelbesseghi3317  how would someone verify Muhammad is a P vrs Joseph smith?
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  17. Agreed!
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  18. So great to hear! I also love the restored gospel
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  19. Worth reading the book of Mormon for yourself. It changed my life.
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  20. Is that the group at the bottom of lcc? Do you still practice? How do you feel about the church of Jesus Chris of latter day saints and the book of Mormon? Sorry Lots of questions
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  21. Have you read the book the great apostasy by James talmage
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  22.  @joshuatoro8977  family by family. But what you described would be 5% my guess. I think if my kid was doing drugs and trying to expose his siblings to it, I may not allow them around. So there may be more to the story.
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  23. Thanks for your testimony 🙏
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  24. Yes we can in the 🇺🇸. We also fight for our country. Read about captin Moroni
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  25.  @jeffs4483  Oh Jeff, How you bounce around spreading your hate. Good not good to see you. Did we wrong you in another life? i'm friends with the church auditors and quite happy with how the church spends it's money. I also know $1 goes a lot further here than any other origination because of all the free labor.
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  26. The SLC Vally didn't but Utah Valey did (by the lake) He goes to both in the drive. Hopefully, that helps clarify. The trading and relationship with the Utah lake group was quite good. The sampetee group, not so much. Lots of other groups yes, and we have many Native ward, etc. You should come to a Ute Game, the Utes are a proud part of the community.
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  27. I love being brainwashed for Jesus, I wouldn't have it any other way.
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  28.  @keithflake9144  it's clear from the video you love and respect each other. Great story it was fun to see. People always want to pick. I have a good suit and it has a tiny hole in it. People always seem to notice the hole
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  29. ❤ I love reading the book of mormon.
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  30. The biggest difference is that we believe life has a purpose
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  31.  @Spitzer3964  platitudes. Of course members of the church of Jesus Chris of latter day saints trust the works of the almighty Jesus Christ. We also know life has meaning and purpose and that is To grow. Most Christians agree
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  32.  @casdman200000  As a member of the church or Jesus Christ of latter-day saints I agree. I love the Cult of Jesus Christ
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  33. Yeah, the beard is just a byu rule.
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  34. Ikr, Constantine and Luther where so dominant and racist. I'm so glad i belong to the the church of Jesus Chris of latter day saints. The information age has absolutely destroyed Constantine's and Luther's warped brand of Christianity.
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  35.  @armymarshal13  “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  36. Yes for sure we are non nicene. We don't believe in the trinity. Here is an Ideal you guys use the term trinity more and don't use He/Him for God but Zee/Zhem. That would be more accurate with the use of the trinity. For us He/Him is totally accurate God is our Father (male). He's got a body like his Son Jesus Christ does. I think if trinity believers updated their bible to correct the language to modern language they believe it would clear up a lot of confusion.
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  37. Yeah i always tell people to get a family tree account. It's free and it does a lot to get a sense of our place in time
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  38. "Skins are white" is deferent than what you think. Read Gen 1. Growing up in Utah was so great and it wasn't until I moved out that I found real hate and racism. Good luck
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  39. Actually I think its Gen 4. You can google it.
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  40.  @OntheOtherHandVideos  🤣🤣🤣 More reading. Did you know that Pew research showed that members of the church of Jesus Christ read and understand the bible more than evangelicals? I'm not for the brand of Luther or Constantine racist versions of Christianity. Joseph Smiths brand was the least racist and one of the reasons my grandpa's Grandpa was shoot. I would encourage you to do more reading. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  41. He has appeared at two temples in the modern era, once in Kurtland witnessed by 2 and once in Salt lake.
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  42.  @DanA.-jo4sg  🤣🤣🤣 I love how you laugh, like you know where the Garden of Eden was? God's told you where?
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  43. "It's all well put together. Mormons are nice. The religion is a false religion" What did Jesus Say about their fruits?
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  44.  @truthology4u  Sorry did you not see the quote: What did Jesus Say about their fruits?
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  45.  @truthology4u  yes!!!! And.... what are the fruits of joseph smith?
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  46.  @truthology4u  Tell me you've never read for yourself the teachings of Joseph Smith or the book of mormon without telling me you've never read the teachings of Joseph Smith or the book of mormon.
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  47. it's a cultural thing. It's like saying everyone I Italy talks with their hands.
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  48. BS
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  49. Your a heretics for listening to Constantine and his forced roman cloud god and the "other gospel" that he preached See how easy it is to call names and quote scripture. If only there was a way to know.
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  50. Mainly we believe God is literally our father, and that Jesus Christ is his firstborn son. So in our view the purpose of live isn't to be saved or not, it's to grow. God's purpose for creation was to grow and learn and learn to freely love god without being forced.
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  51. That's actually how many find the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
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  52. It's because it's the only kingdom people fight so strongly against.
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  53. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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  54.  @lukev483  you are right that my life would be considered "blessed " but have you heard the song peace in Christ?
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  55. The salt lake valley was empty. Their was a settlement on Utah lake and we traded with them frequently and over the years the Native culture has remained a big part of our culture. This place isn't like Organ where grass just comes out of the ground. No one could live here until irrigation.
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  56. 🤣🤣🤣 Yeah. I'm a member and agree. but... what can you do.
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  57.  @philbrooks5979  Cuts both ways.... the forced God of Constantine is what most of "Christianity" worships. I would never worship that God their is a reason Atheism say he's evil.
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  58.  @philbrooks5979  I have little interest of your interpretation of sacred texts.
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  59.  @DannyAGray  well said. It interesting that people hate Joseph. My grandpa's grandpa lived with Joseph and his sister Lucy was one of Joseph's wives. Everyone that new Joseph personally knew his caricature, not perfect but a really good man. Oliver's account of fanny is from his son's point of view. Even Oliver came back to the church, that is saying something. People hate President Nelson. It's crazy to me. I listen to them pick apart his talks and all I can think is these are the same arguments People would make to crucify Jesus.
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  60. I love the Cult of Jesus Christ!!! Yes, I would follow him anywhere.
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  61. If you read the book of Mormon you'll know why we believe it. That book has changed my life for the better.
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  62. Yep watch out we'll get your babies. And we have horns.
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  63.  @cryptoFindalf  amen
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  64. I would recommend reading the book of Mormon. There is a reason we print a lot.
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  65.  @surfingtothestars  legit, the birds in my eve's push out a babies all the time 😑
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  66. , when I went to sangria familiar in Barcelona I was not allowed in parts of the chapel. and all the people had particular clothing on...
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  67. We're not as Crazy as you though? :)
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  68. Fair! I would recommend reading the Book of Mormon. It works in every culture.
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  69. Calling good bad and bad good
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  70. Yes not sufficient as attested by the confusion and 42K denominations. Is it also possible that Constinen was a false prophet and came as a wolf in sheep's clothing? I would read the book of Mormon for yourself than make and informed prayerful decision.
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  71.  @ashleys637  they tell me with their mouth parts that they are unhappy, we talk regularly we're family. 2 out of the 3 have attempted to unalive themselves. Not sure what i tell myself matters with their level of health and happiness.
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  72.  @lost4guam  are angels and people not sons of God? 20 references in the ot and nt say they are? Your right Jesus did allow Satan, like it was part if a plan.....😉
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  73. "It was wonderful " by their fruits ye shall know them.
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  74. Welcome 🙏. Stay strong and study and pray daily 🙏 ❤
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  75.  @duduoson1306  It would be that the book of Mormon is not real. I'm a member of the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
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  76. Yeah our city said we're using our stake as part of the emergency shelter plan.
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  77. I love being naïve in the Cult of Jesus Christ. I would follow him anywhere. God be thanked for the gift of his Son.
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  78.  @eason9115  I'm in the same Cult Joseph Smith was, I love the Cult of Jesus Christ. The person that came to Joseph Smith and restored his church.
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  79. Also of note, at a time Brigham Young didn't let some wagon trains pass because they would just Shoot Indians. You should remember that in our faith all people are God's children and that we look at everyone as our brothers and sisters. One of the first missions in our church was to Native peoples.
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  80.  @Phil9874  You're allowed your opinions. Thank heavens for the constitution.
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  81. So wrong
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  82. I love the cult of Jesus Christ 😍 ❤ i would not pick this man's path
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  83. Yeah we aren't like the calvinist or worship the weird trinity 🙄 . They can have their shape shifted purposeless ☁️
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  84.  @seasonedwithsalt5129  I'm sorry that God is a monster I would never worship the calvinist God. But thank heavens we live in America you can worship how we're what you may. Good luck.
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  85. Amen!
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  86. Yes if you serve in one of the temple visitor centers, like she is, you usually have a flag showing where you are from.
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  87. I love the cult of Jesus Christ. Yes, some think it is weird.
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  88. The two groups that dislike the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints the most... Former members and Evangelicals. https://youtu.be/NVn2LAIMdOo?si=jBVwOHrPyr2JJwEU
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  89. Wrong. We actually didn't let some wagon trains pass because they killed indigenous peoples. Our first mission was to indigenous peoples. No one lived in the SL valley. There was a settlement on Utah lake and we had a great relationship.
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  90. There are like 40 Bible verses that say we're children of God, read your Bible and learn how to use Google. You've been taught "another gospel " by a Roman conquer.
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  91. The book of Mormon changed my life
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  92.  @jenniferglover9905  no matter where you leave you are influenced by your surroundings. You should choose influencers you want to really be like. I pick Jesus 😉, sometimes i want to be like mike, but then i think better.
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  93. Islam is a mix of Christianity and Judaism. Jeff took a group that was isolated, and Isolated them more and controlled them more. Muhammad's group worked more on expansionism by force than Isolationism.
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  94.  @hichamelbesseghi3317  Doesn't seem easy by the data? And I don't see that in my bible that Muhammad is or is not a P vrs Joseph Smith? I do see in my bible that Prophets would come and also that famine of the word would come and there would be restoration. There is a reason Constantin's and Luthers's brand of "Christianity" is rapidly declining. It's because one was a racist and one was a conquerer and both interjected their worldviews on the bible. Have you ever asked yourself, am in a cult of Luthier's or Constantin's as much as you we should be asking am in jeff's cult
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  95. So you still believe in Jesus? Ask yourself, what it took for Judas to betray him and why a mob decided he should be killed. Your rhetoric is the same rhetoric that incited a Mob at Liberty Jail.
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  96. He visits it in another video. Doesn't really have much to do with the "church" Just scared church members acting very irationally
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  97.  @Gotta-love-Elon  Who is "he"? A gnome of some sort?
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  98.  @Gotta-love-Elon  haha visits
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  99. I think you may be thinking about something else. this state had the first state women vote. also the first member of Congress was a woman who was polygamous who was my children's gggreat-grandmother. Also the most highly educated group of women compared to other cohorts in their demographics.
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  100. This seems like this makes you mad? Lets look at the alterative Ideas I've heard about why we are here: There is not God There is a God but everything comes out of him, Good and Evil. Or our version. Their is a God(s) and they are progressing the universe to a better state. And that life has actual meaning.
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  101.  @Yindsey  I think most members know it's because it became illegal. Especially if they read their quad, it's right in the manifesto. No one is hiding anything, They probably just haven't read the manifesto. If you know the versions well, why would you leave? I can't think (or have found) any other worldview to explain why we are here, have you? Plus I've received revelation from God that the Book of Mormon is real.
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  102.  @Yindsey  Because beliefs and choices change behavior and both have natural and unnatural consequences. And I'm going to use it moral term good and bad consequences. Many of us have suffered those bad consequences, And therefore we feel some sorrow for those that are currently suffering or may suffer those consequences because of their choices and have an obligation to share a better path.
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  103. We think we lived with God before we were born. That God is literally our spirit father and we also have a spirit Mother. We believe the purpose of life is to grow and learn to become like God (father and Mother) by freely choosing them. People who choose to stop growing by others choose just stop growing. That's it.
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  104. Yes I'm happy floating on the great ship of Jesus Christ... agreed you can worship whatever is floating you
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  105. Yep, I love being nuts for Jesus Christ. Losing my life for his sake has changed my life.
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  106. What is the ratio?
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  107.  @carrieostler5809  you said some and some, inferring 50/50. Is that the ratio or 100 to 1 or 1000 to 1? This sounds like the media just throwing something out.
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  108.  @carrieostler5809  That is why I asked. And that is what your original post sounds like. So let me use Google and my brain. You're saying their have been 17 million people hurt by this church? If I google, I should see a class action law suit. I found 3 negative stories on the AP , so that ration seems more like 1:6m. So more than 1:1000. I feel like I'm missing something. Or you're in some sort of bubble. is it 50k people? that would be 1:364? I'm going to need more intonation and data.
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  109.  @jeffs4483  You're not wrong we are not like the lutherans or the catholics or the constantines were the orthodox. Nope they can have their Trion cloud
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  110.  @WhatDadIsUpTo  Stupid is as stupid does 😄
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  111. He said the Salt Lake Valley was empty and that was true. If you lived here you would know why. There was a wonderful group on Utah lake and the relationship was strong with them. We have many indigenous wards and Brigham Young didn't let some wagon trains through Utah, because the would just shoot indigenous. If you know our theology, you would know why we where the first white people to not like the "savage" title placed on indigenous. The more you know!
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  112.  @calebargyle8636  There are two lakes. One salt and one fresh. In deferent vallies. I don't feel like you do know what you're talking about? Considering you don't know where Utah lake and Salt lake are....
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  113.  @patryyyk6653  The Lord needs us as servants. And no he doesn't need you to have a "private jet and a mansion" I'm not sure you understand how our church works. We have a lay ministry which means few are getting paid, but no one is getting rich as the payments are standard wages. The church does so much good and much of that happens with work and that takes money.
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  114.  @patryyyk6653  The church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has 17 million members and a lay ministry. Jeffs has collected 10k people as followers and is in prison.
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  115. Yes, we do. But no one knows, so there is no social pressure. But we do believe it is a commandment, so there is "commandment" pressure. I love paying my tithing and also am proud of how the church uses its funds.
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  116.  @DanA.-jo4sg  whatever you need to tell yourself
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  117.  @susanhaney3437  The book mormon itself says they have the errors of men and men. Just because this is a living church and it's led by Jesus Christ we still have all sorts of imperfections.
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  118. That is a very pragmatic statement as a member of the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints. I think Jesus made a lot of very pragmatic statements.
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  119. As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ, I limit my quantities of both I never drink any soda or sugar drinks. I would recommend reading the word of wisdom, it is very principles-based.
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  120. And his name was constantine
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  121.  @evanchurch3549  Ink... But they did read it on the internet.
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  122.  @duduoson1306  She's so right. As a whole, truly Christlike. "Curious what the bad side looks like" Is the converse true? Do you know the ratios?
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  123.  @duduoson1306  Got it. One that i think is really hard for people is because we really believe it and it's very convincing spiritual and mentally, if someone chooses not to believe the restored gospel of Jesus Christ they don't have a "soft landing" they social network are hard to change and reconstructing a new rational worldview can be hard
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  124. 🤣 I know a couple of guys
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  125. ❤❤❤
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  126. Yes, he did. But I prefer his brand of Christianity to that of Constatiens and Luthers. Which most follow unawares.
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  127. It was John that wrote that. Peter did actually write Peter 2 after. It also says something similar in dueteronimy. This is a good conversation to have, especially the origins of the Bible
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  128.  @OntheOtherHandVideos  check and agreed. Sorry I'm just in a bad mood and not the best writer.
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  129.  @OntheOtherHandVideos  🤣
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  130. There was a settlement by Utah Lake but nothing in the Salt Lake Valley, it is a wasteland without irrigation. This isn't like other parts of the US you're used to.
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  131. I have both. You're not informed on most of your points
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  132. It was explored but there was not a Spanish settlement in the salt lake valley. We had to fight and yell at all the other white people that would kill native Americans. We're going to young specifically didn't let certain groups into Utah because they were known for killing Indigenous people. If you come to Utah you'll see that the Native American cultures alive and strong. Start with a ute football game.
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  133. Yep we have a lot to be grateful for.
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  134. "Divorce Rate At 30 By State (Highest to Lowest)" is what you are referring to.... People don't know how to analyze data or read the entire report. Read the title and then use your brain and also think about what information you don't have.
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  135. The valley was empty. There was a settlement on utah lake, and lots to the north and the south, but the valley was empty.
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  136. love this
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  137. which group? They all have a different story. Some are members, some are not. Some conflicted some peace, etc.
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  138. Um, we were the only settlers that didn't Brigham young didn't let some settlers going to California pass because they would just shoot native Americans. Sorry, you don't know what you are talking about.
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  139. Well said
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  140. The only reason you have words to describe human rights is because of Jesus Christ and Paul.
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  141. ❤
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  142. More black and brown than white, but we're all children of God, so I'm not sure you should worry about that.
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  143. Yes we don't believe in the nicene creed. I believe very much that Joseph Smith was a prophet. But like 1 cor 2 says just one way to figure that out
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  144. @tyronesmith9678 It pisses me off as a black person to be put in with gays, like it's some family tree. dems are the worst!!!
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  145. Your always welcome 🙏. Even if you don't believe or do everything we do, the church is a hospital for the sinners.
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  146. We all believe in "fairy tales" For example, you may believe that lighting struck the water and created a robot and that robot every so small could make a copy of itself....
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  147. Don't tell people about it :) What's the matter with you. Delete this!
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  148. Fact hu? “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  149. There is a reason for this. Look at the complete opposites of the two post (in time ) just 3 and 4 up. one says: @DerGlaetze 4 minutes ago (edited) I am a convert since 1975, at the time, 20 years old. I am now 68 and still very happy with the paths I have taken in life, since then. I have absolutely no regrets. My conversion to the LDS faith has been the best decision of my life. My second best decision was my wife. I’m thankful for an interview that finally paints a fair and balanced view of my church. Thank you Peter! And God bless! And the other says @AVKRU88 15 minutes ago Mormons are perverting the scriptures and their religion is of the devil. They are all going to hell because they rejected the one and only savior Lord Jesus Christ. You should be asking yourself so why is this hard to find info on. There are 17mm members. It should be easy.
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  150.  @TheLordSorin  he was either a genius with supper hypnotherapy powders or these people aren't lying
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  151. Lets see the receipts...
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  152.  @kennyjohn1194  I have one that I know of. But it's about 10% of the native population. So yes some issues but. No Salt Lake valley was empty, and if' you knew what you were talking about you would know that. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  153. I"'m sorry the opinion is true. Google why atheist think like Christians.
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  154. read the manifesto
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  155. Jared, did you visit the St George Temple open house?
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  156. Have you read the book of Mormon?
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  157.  @nookymonster1  That Jesus Christ is the savior? or that people can travel on boats? I would look up LIDAR in the Amazon or Hebrew in America's etc, and maybe think a little less racist about the people that lived here. They are not "heathens' but our brothers and sisters.
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  158.  @nookymonster1  I have “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain You know that we had the first unsegregated churches in the south right, and Missouri tried to kill us because we are agents slavery because like the book of Mormon says "all are alike unto god.. black and white.."
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  159.  @heathwiniesdorffer6921  the restored gospel of Jesus Christ has changed my life!
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  160.  @ViolentRainbow  Ironic, that Members of the church of Jesus Christ aren't allowed to support those good Muslims that buck the popular view. But you're sarcasm is not something I wish to engage with.
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  161.  @AaAa-pf7tj  sagrada familia sorry talk to text. It's supper famous
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  162. Member of the "mother church " the church of Jesus Chris of latter day saints. This was interesting.
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  163. Yeah it's nice to have unbiased things like this. I'm a member of the church and I love it. A video like this gives a chance for people to hear the crazy and the uncrazy.
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  164. True, may grandpa's Grandpa lived with Joseph Smith and was shoot for this church. The extermination order was lifted in 1979. It's new. The Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ has changed my life for the better.
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  165.  @muliu2230  Yes about 12% of the book of Mormon quotes directly or indirectly old testament prophets or Jesus Christ when he repeated many of his teachings to the people of the Americas. Jesus Christ is the God of the whole world 🌎. The Bible is a record of his dealing with people in the Old world and the book of Mormon is a record of his dealing with the new world
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  166. ​ @muliu2230  I'm happy to answers any questions/comments you have good or bad. The restored Gospel of Jesus Christ changed my life. I think this is a really good question!!! Like one of the most important. Why does God Use prophets rather than just come down here himself? To us a prophet is someone that God has Called to to be a witness. They are people and they make mistakes. But their role is critical. Why Critical? This is because part of the purpose of this life is to grow and become like our father in Heaven. He's not looking for robots, he's looking for people that freely chose good over evil and love him freely and aren't forced by the fact of proof or his presence. It's like when you get married, you don't want your spouse to love you because you are rich. You want them to love you because they love YOU. God loves YOU because you are his child and he wants you to grow and become an independent force for good. A prophet allows you to Listen (or read) what they said God said and make the choice to experiment on the words they say. Does the help with what the roll of a prophet is? I believe Joseph Smith and Russel Nelson are prophets like Moses or peter in the bible (in Jerusalem) or like Alma and Nephi (in Zarahemla). The reasons I believe that is I've listened to and read their words, and thought about them where they lead, what the mean, and have been willing to act on them. And God has shown me in my heart and mind that they are true. The Book of Mormon offers the same promise. You can read it and Ask God for yourself it is true. Do you have an online copy in your language? What language do you speak? Good luck. And again I'm happy to talk about anything you'd like, good or bad. Best
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  167.  @muliu2230  Yes the F strands for fundamental I believe Russell Nelson is a Prophet so I'm in that group. LDS or The church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints. I think your thoughts are right on. The nice part is you can listen to Russell Nelson's talks and ask God if you think he is God's Prophet. You're right there are good people everywhere. In the LDS church their are 17mm members, not all are active. Most live outside of USA. Have you ever prayed before?
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  168. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  169. Amen
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  170. I think you are misinformed. one of the reasons that Joseph Smith was killed is because he was running for President on an anti slavery bad word.
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  171. *anti slavery platform
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  172. "And the Lord called his people Zion, because they were of one heart and one mind, and dwelt in righteousness; and there was no poor among them." We fail at this, because no on is perfect, but we're trying to live the above scripture.
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  173.  @lukev483  this isn't Canada or the catholic church. There is more to that story
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  174.  @jeffs4483  You are ill informed my friend: “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  175.  @homemademusic7  Constantine understood the commandment that the churches need to be one but he did it by force and by making up doctrine. That doctrine is what permeates all of Christianity, Not the doctrine of the new testament in its simplicity. Where do you think satan came from? And evil? If you believe Constantine we all came out of God including satan and nothing existed without God. Is Jesus Christ the Son of God are we sons and daughters god?
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  176. 🤣🤣🤣 Hey we tried Ohio and 2 other states first. No one wanted Utah back then.
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  177. This is very true. Life's purpose is to grow and follow Jesus. It would be great if everyone thought like you did. (member of the church of Jesus CHrist here) You should also read the Book of Mormon it changed my life to help with exactly what you are saying
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  178. That sounds off?
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  179.  @SendyBenAmi  I'm saying YOUR story sounds off. Oddly, you couldn't think for yourself before and now do, glad you've upgraded that ability.
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  180. In a business shareholders get rich. Who are the Shareholders? Who is getting rich?
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  181. Or ask how an all powerful God let satan sneak into the garden.
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  182.  @lost4guam  sorry not sorry...🤣
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  183. there is a documentary about about religious documents being forgeries, But not what your thinking or inferring by the statement.
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  184. And it's a well done documentary and legit. FYI I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
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  185.  @LisaKayOGQueen  Because it's in your text that's exactly what you're inferring you're inferring the documentary refers to that data house and it is full of forgeries or has some forgeries in it. That is not what the documentary is about at all.
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  186.  @LisaKayOGQueen  Just go watch the documentary if you have a question about it then you could know that the panning shot has nothing to do with the documentary.
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  187.  @LisaKayOGQueen  You are free not to reply or read the message. Have a nice life.
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  188. Right, we're only so crazy :)
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  189. Yes it is i love the cult of Jesus Chris!
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  190. You can't put new wine in old bottles. Constantine changed the doctrine, and the plan and simple has been brought back.
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  191. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  192. Yes we're definitely not nicene Christians
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  193. Most are republicans
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  194. And most likely your employer or manager.
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  195. 👍
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  196. That is what people used to think .... The also used to think the amazon was always a dense rain forest.
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  197. Anyone can say what you believe is a joke. For example, you may believe that lighting struck the water and created a robot and that robot every so small could make a copy of itself....
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  198.  @Phil9874  sadly sin is the great restrictor, not my religion
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  199. Wrong. My grandpa's Grandpa lived with Joseph Smith and his sister was one of JS wives. My grandpa's Grandpa was shot for this church. I don't think you know what you're talking about And yes the church has money, But a hedgefund has shareholders, Who are the shareholders of the church?
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  200. Fun fact, we don't really believe in hell. You may want to check what you think you know about the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
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  201. Also happened to a few other people. Let's say see... Jesus Stephen Daniel.. The list goes on
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  202. Try asking one of us.
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  203. Trinitarians>>> Galatians 1 8 Wake up you're in it. Luther and Constantine came and preached it. And now you're living it. And it looks like you have not read the cover of the BOM or are lying for some reason.
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  204.  @onlyJesusbride  Look again, you're reading it wrong.
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  205.  @onlyJesusbride  I'm saying you're reading the front cover of the BOM incorrectly, and you should go back or google a picture of the front of the cover. You're doing better than most if you read your bible and follow Jesus Christ. Also if you're not being affected by Prestcraft you're also doing better than most. I love the verses you quoted and they are part of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I would recommend reading the Book of Mormon for yourself It is not what Paul warned about. Luther and Constantine are what paul warned about and people are living under their influence. Jesus Christ is the God of the Whole earth. He had other sheep that "he must bring" That is why you should read the book of Mormon. It has deepened my relationship with Jesus Christ. Good luck! Happy to answer any questions you have. One thing you should ask yourself. Is why did the Jews Reject Jesus Christ? Especially as you look into the restored gospel of Jesus christ.
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  206. 1823 is when he first reported them and 17 other people saw them and never denied seeing them. Of the 17, 3 saw an angel. and 3 died for their witness seeing them. So yeah isn't an insane claim if not true. I believe the witnesses. Not really anything like Mohammad at all. Joseph wrote himself and hundreds witnessed the miracles and angels of the restoration. This is a red herring. Also, Jesus Came to Joseph and Sydeny and testified he was the Christ and the God of the whole world. And no definably didn't claim to be the final prophet. We have a prophet today. He's awesome. I think you should do a little more research before you spread info. IMHO The book of Mormon Changed my life. It brought me so much closer to JESUS CHRIST Good Luck
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  207. Bro, read the bible for yourself! Don't let others interpret it goofy for you.
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  208. We don't want to "make you" anything. The book of Mormon is amazing. We want you to see it for yourself and let it "make you" the most amazging. But life is all what you want it to be, so that's good news!
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  209. Yes it is! I love the Cult of Jesus Christ! I would follow him anywhere.
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  210. Yep, we've had it for ever, even before cars. It's some of the worst air in the states. Geography sucks.
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  211. Or sure one of the best
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  212. Not in the Salt Lake Valley. There was on the Utah lake. But Salt Lake Valley was a wasteland. I've seen a few people make this comment. It seems like they don't know the history. This isn't like Orgen, where it's easy to live and people fight over hunting and farming ground. No one lived in Salt lake Valley. Lots of other places in Utah. and their was conflict there. But not till 1865 and you should go do your research on that.
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  213.  @maamerbelakhra9455  🤣🤣 that's funny i though the same thing from your post. I was just trying to give you an accurate history so your not spending misinformation.
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  214.  @maamerbelakhra9455  The nice part is you can go do that research for yourself. It's just something you should do before you spread information you don't know anything about. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  215.  @maamerbelakhra9455  no assumptions, go check the well documented record by many, not just members of our faith or white people.
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  216.  @maamerbelakhra9455  you can verify for yourself, then you can spread things you actually know about
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  217. My grandpa's grandpa was one of Joseph Smith's first wives. She had her choice. But yes you're right Emma didn't like it.
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  218. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  219.  @blusheep2  Which bio? He didn't "learn it" 1837 a book came out called "Mormonism unveiled" That book is filled with affidavits. It's even quoted by Richard bushman. Here is the problem. Historan have later learned that half of the people that created affidavits didn't even live in the area at the time.
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  220.  @blusheep2  yes that one is one that does a good job, not 100% accurate I'm sure that's impossible. Especially when some affidavits are proven to be impossible
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  221. Should take a theologian to know the difference. If they confess to Jesus they are sinners and and ask him to save them, then they are Christian.
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  222.  @elifritts  That said it shouldn't take a theologian. I thought the historic creeds were for Catholic Christians.
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  223.  @elifritts  Okay I'm not a fan of the creeds as they don't claim to be written by inspiration, I'm not sure what authority they have, so it sounds like you're adding stuff. Do they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and ask Him to forgive their Sins or not?
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  224.  @elifritts  🤔 Okay so "Do they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and ask Him to forgive their Sins or not?" I'm assuming that if they are asking Jesus To forgive them they are thinking he's God right? It sounds like you think you have some sort of authority of think other's do and can write inspiration? Are you a prophet? How am I to test if you're telling me the truth or these other creeds that come after. That are added to the bible? Are you a sheep or a wolf?
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  225.  @elifritts  The bible says Jesus is the great I am and that the word was God (in some translations deity) and that Jesus was the word, etc. The bible does also seem to have two different versions of God and Old Testament and a new testament version. One that is one person and one that is three people. or at least two people with a spirit of the father. I feel like you're making up stuff? Are you a wolf or a sheep, You're pulling things out of the bible that the bible doesn't say? Are you a wolf or a sheep?
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  226.  @elifritts  NGL? what does that mean? Not Mormon. I read my bible every day and my question is are you a wolf or a sheep? What makes your able to teach others your perspective?
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  227.  @elifritts  I don't know what you mean? Maybe explain it to me. I've heard some people explain it to me and they are wolfs. So i"m trying to see if you are a wolf or a sheep, and why I should believe you. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
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  228.  @elifritts  Okay you sound like a wolf... You just said "Bible teaches...." "there is one God and three divine persons" I've only seen Isiah say their is one God Where does the bible say "three divine persons"" Did you not see the video? The Hebrew has more names than you just said. Are you calling him a wolf? Is your bible better than his? Who is the wolf? You or him?
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  229. There are very few Black people in Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and Montana. There are very few people in those states relative to other states in general.
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