Comments by "clearstonewindows" (@clearstonewindows) on "Inside Largest Mormon Community - First Impressions 🇺🇸" video.

  1. I feel like every Muslim I've worked with in Salt lake and pak have just aligned so well because of our shared family values.
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  2.  @jedimindtrixr4kidz294  no, family importance, the Muslim I've meet here in Salt lake don't seem to oppress women. The 2 women i worked with where liberal outspoken funny women. You know the first female member of congress was my kids great-great-grandmother, she was a polygamist. And we had the first women to vote until the federal government took it away.
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  3.  @rbesfe  I have 3 family members that have same sex attractions and both act on those attractions. We still hang and love each other. All have separated from me more than I from them. They are invited to family parties, but don't come.
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  4. Yep no horns, and we're not trying to steel anyone's babies.
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  5.  @PeterSantenello  Yep you explore and let us decide. Like true journalism. It's a delight to explore the world with you.
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  6. Sounds like you had a very different experience than me growing up. My kids, my siblings and I love the Cult of Jesus Christ, It's freaking awesome.
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  7. Yep no creepy music, with weird shoots
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  8. Great to hear your testimony!
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  9. "silly" is a good word because I can make any belief system sound "silly" For example, you believe that lighting struck the water and created a robot and that robot every so small could make a copy of itself....
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  10. This is true, lots of wards, stakes etc help.
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  11.  @ashleys637  they are unhappy, and it's not because of me or anyone else. The are unhappy becaus the choices and worldview they have taken have made them unhappy. Don't blame others for your emotions. You are the only one in charge of those.
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  12. So great to hear! I also love the restored gospel
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  13. Worth reading the book of Mormon for yourself. It changed my life.
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  14. Have you read the book the great apostasy by James talmage
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  15.  @joshuatoro8977  family by family. But what you described would be 5% my guess. I think if my kid was doing drugs and trying to expose his siblings to it, I may not allow them around. So there may be more to the story.
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  16.  @jeffs4483  Oh Jeff, How you bounce around spreading your hate. Good not good to see you. Did we wrong you in another life? i'm friends with the church auditors and quite happy with how the church spends it's money. I also know $1 goes a lot further here than any other origination because of all the free labor.
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  17. The SLC Vally didn't but Utah Valey did (by the lake) He goes to both in the drive. Hopefully, that helps clarify. The trading and relationship with the Utah lake group was quite good. The sampetee group, not so much. Lots of other groups yes, and we have many Native ward, etc. You should come to a Ute Game, the Utes are a proud part of the community.
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  18. I love being brainwashed for Jesus, I wouldn't have it any other way.
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  19. ❤ I love reading the book of mormon.
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  20.  @casdman200000  As a member of the church or Jesus Christ of latter-day saints I agree. I love the Cult of Jesus Christ
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  21. Yeah, the beard is just a byu rule.
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  22.  @armymarshal13  “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  23. Yes for sure we are non nicene. We don't believe in the trinity. Here is an Ideal you guys use the term trinity more and don't use He/Him for God but Zee/Zhem. That would be more accurate with the use of the trinity. For us He/Him is totally accurate God is our Father (male). He's got a body like his Son Jesus Christ does. I think if trinity believers updated their bible to correct the language to modern language they believe it would clear up a lot of confusion.
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  24. Yeah i always tell people to get a family tree account. It's free and it does a lot to get a sense of our place in time
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  25. He has appeared at two temples in the modern era, once in Kurtland witnessed by 2 and once in Salt lake.
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  26.  @DanA.-jo4sg  🤣🤣🤣 I love how you laugh, like you know where the Garden of Eden was? God's told you where?
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  27. "It's all well put together. Mormons are nice. The religion is a false religion" What did Jesus Say about their fruits?
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  28.  @truthology4u  Sorry did you not see the quote: What did Jesus Say about their fruits?
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  29.  @truthology4u  yes!!!! And.... what are the fruits of joseph smith?
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  30.  @truthology4u  Tell me you've never read for yourself the teachings of Joseph Smith or the book of mormon without telling me you've never read the teachings of Joseph Smith or the book of mormon.
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  31. BS
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  32. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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  33. The salt lake valley was empty. Their was a settlement on Utah lake and we traded with them frequently and over the years the Native culture has remained a big part of our culture. This place isn't like Organ where grass just comes out of the ground. No one could live here until irrigation.
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  34. 🤣🤣🤣 Yeah. I'm a member and agree. but... what can you do.
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  35.  @philbrooks5979  Cuts both ways.... the forced God of Constantine is what most of "Christianity" worships. I would never worship that God their is a reason Atheism say he's evil.
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  36.  @philbrooks5979  I have little interest of your interpretation of sacred texts.
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  37.  @DannyAGray  well said. It interesting that people hate Joseph. My grandpa's grandpa lived with Joseph and his sister Lucy was one of Joseph's wives. Everyone that new Joseph personally knew his caricature, not perfect but a really good man. Oliver's account of fanny is from his son's point of view. Even Oliver came back to the church, that is saying something. People hate President Nelson. It's crazy to me. I listen to them pick apart his talks and all I can think is these are the same arguments People would make to crucify Jesus.
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  38. I love the Cult of Jesus Christ!!! Yes, I would follow him anywhere.
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  39. If you read the book of Mormon you'll know why we believe it. That book has changed my life for the better.
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  40. Yep watch out we'll get your babies. And we have horns.
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  41.  @cryptoFindalf  amen
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  42. We're not as Crazy as you though? :)
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  43. Calling good bad and bad good
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  44. Yes not sufficient as attested by the confusion and 42K denominations. Is it also possible that Constinen was a false prophet and came as a wolf in sheep's clothing? I would read the book of Mormon for yourself than make and informed prayerful decision.
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  45.  @ashleys637  they tell me with their mouth parts that they are unhappy, we talk regularly we're family. 2 out of the 3 have attempted to unalive themselves. Not sure what i tell myself matters with their level of health and happiness.
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  46.  @lost4guam  are angels and people not sons of God? 20 references in the ot and nt say they are? Your right Jesus did allow Satan, like it was part if a plan.....😉
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  47. Welcome 🙏. Stay strong and study and pray daily 🙏 ❤
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  48.  @duduoson1306  It would be that the book of Mormon is not real. I'm a member of the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
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  49. Yeah our city said we're using our stake as part of the emergency shelter plan.
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  50. I love being naĂŻve in the Cult of Jesus Christ. I would follow him anywhere. God be thanked for the gift of his Son.
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  51.  @eason9115  I'm in the same Cult Joseph Smith was, I love the Cult of Jesus Christ. The person that came to Joseph Smith and restored his church.
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  52. Also of note, at a time Brigham Young didn't let some wagon trains pass because they would just Shoot Indians. You should remember that in our faith all people are God's children and that we look at everyone as our brothers and sisters. One of the first missions in our church was to Native peoples.
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  53.  @Phil9874  You're allowed your opinions. Thank heavens for the constitution.
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  54. Amen!
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  55. Yes if you serve in one of the temple visitor centers, like she is, you usually have a flag showing where you are from.
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  56. I love the cult of Jesus Christ. Yes, some think it is weird.
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  57. The two groups that dislike the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints the most... Former members and Evangelicals. https://youtu.be/NVn2LAIMdOo?si=jBVwOHrPyr2JJwEU
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  58. Wrong. We actually didn't let some wagon trains pass because they killed indigenous peoples. Our first mission was to indigenous peoples. No one lived in the SL valley. There was a settlement on Utah lake and we had a great relationship.
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  59. The book of Mormon changed my life
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  60.  @jenniferglover9905  no matter where you leave you are influenced by your surroundings. You should choose influencers you want to really be like. I pick Jesus 😉, sometimes i want to be like mike, but then i think better.
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  61. So you still believe in Jesus? Ask yourself, what it took for Judas to betray him and why a mob decided he should be killed. Your rhetoric is the same rhetoric that incited a Mob at Liberty Jail.
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  62. He visits it in another video. Doesn't really have much to do with the "church" Just scared church members acting very irationally
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  63.  @Gotta-love-Elon  Who is "he"? A gnome of some sort?
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  64.  @Gotta-love-Elon  haha visits
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  65. I think you may be thinking about something else. this state had the first state women vote. also the first member of Congress was a woman who was polygamous who was my children's gggreat-grandmother. Also the most highly educated group of women compared to other cohorts in their demographics.
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  66. We think we lived with God before we were born. That God is literally our spirit father and we also have a spirit Mother. We believe the purpose of life is to grow and learn to become like God (father and Mother) by freely choosing them. People who choose to stop growing by others choose just stop growing. That's it.
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  67. Yes I'm happy floating on the great ship of Jesus Christ... agreed you can worship whatever is floating you
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  68. Yep, I love being nuts for Jesus Christ. Losing my life for his sake has changed my life.
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  69. What is the ratio?
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  70.  @carrieostler5809  you said some and some, inferring 50/50. Is that the ratio or 100 to 1 or 1000 to 1? This sounds like the media just throwing something out.
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  71.  @carrieostler5809  That is why I asked. And that is what your original post sounds like. So let me use Google and my brain. You're saying their have been 17 million people hurt by this church? If I google, I should see a class action law suit. I found 3 negative stories on the AP , so that ration seems more like 1:6m. So more than 1:1000. I feel like I'm missing something. Or you're in some sort of bubble. is it 50k people? that would be 1:364? I'm going to need more intonation and data.
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  72. He said the Salt Lake Valley was empty and that was true. If you lived here you would know why. There was a wonderful group on Utah lake and the relationship was strong with them. We have many indigenous wards and Brigham Young didn't let some wagon trains through Utah, because the would just shoot indigenous. If you know our theology, you would know why we where the first white people to not like the "savage" title placed on indigenous. The more you know!
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  73.  @calebargyle8636  There are two lakes. One salt and one fresh. In deferent vallies. I don't feel like you do know what you're talking about? Considering you don't know where Utah lake and Salt lake are....
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  74.  @patryyyk6653  The Lord needs us as servants. And no he doesn't need you to have a "private jet and a mansion" I'm not sure you understand how our church works. We have a lay ministry which means few are getting paid, but no one is getting rich as the payments are standard wages. The church does so much good and much of that happens with work and that takes money.
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  75.  @patryyyk6653  The church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has 17 million members and a lay ministry. Jeffs has collected 10k people as followers and is in prison.
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  76. Yes, we do. But no one knows, so there is no social pressure. But we do believe it is a commandment, so there is "commandment" pressure. I love paying my tithing and also am proud of how the church uses its funds.
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  77.  @DanA.-jo4sg  whatever you need to tell yourself
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  78. As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ, I limit my quantities of both I never drink any soda or sugar drinks. I would recommend reading the word of wisdom, it is very principles-based.
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  79. And his name was constantine
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  80.  @evanchurch3549  Ink... But they did read it on the internet.
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  81.  @duduoson1306  She's so right. As a whole, truly Christlike. "Curious what the bad side looks like" Is the converse true? Do you know the ratios?
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  82.  @duduoson1306  Got it. One that i think is really hard for people is because we really believe it and it's very convincing spiritual and mentally, if someone chooses not to believe the restored gospel of Jesus Christ they don't have a "soft landing" they social network are hard to change and reconstructing a new rational worldview can be hard
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  83. 🤣 I know a couple of guys
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  84. Yes, he did. But I prefer his brand of Christianity to that of Constatiens and Luthers. Which most follow unawares.
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  85. It was John that wrote that. Peter did actually write Peter 2 after. It also says something similar in dueteronimy. This is a good conversation to have, especially the origins of the Bible
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  86. There was a settlement by Utah Lake but nothing in the Salt Lake Valley, it is a wasteland without irrigation. This isn't like other parts of the US you're used to.
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  87. I have both. You're not informed on most of your points
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  88. It was explored but there was not a Spanish settlement in the salt lake valley. We had to fight and yell at all the other white people that would kill native Americans. We're going to young specifically didn't let certain groups into Utah because they were known for killing Indigenous people. If you come to Utah you'll see that the Native American cultures alive and strong. Start with a ute football game.
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  89. Yep we have a lot to be grateful for.
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  90. "Divorce Rate At 30 By State (Highest to Lowest)" is what you are referring to.... People don't know how to analyze data or read the entire report. Read the title and then use your brain and also think about what information you don't have.
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  91. The valley was empty. There was a settlement on utah lake, and lots to the north and the south, but the valley was empty.
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  92. love this
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  93. which group? They all have a different story. Some are members, some are not. Some conflicted some peace, etc.
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  94. Um, we were the only settlers that didn't Brigham young didn't let some settlers going to California pass because they would just shoot native Americans. Sorry, you don't know what you are talking about.
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  95. The only reason you have words to describe human rights is because of Jesus Christ and Paul.
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  96. ❤
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  97. More black and brown than white, but we're all children of God, so I'm not sure you should worry about that.
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  98. Yes we don't believe in the nicene creed. I believe very much that Joseph Smith was a prophet. But like 1 cor 2 says just one way to figure that out
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  99. We all believe in "fairy tales" For example, you may believe that lighting struck the water and created a robot and that robot every so small could make a copy of itself....
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  100. Don't tell people about it :) What's the matter with you. Delete this!
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  101. Fact hu? “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  102. There is a reason for this. Look at the complete opposites of the two post (in time ) just 3 and 4 up. one says: @DerGlaetze 4 minutes ago (edited) I am a convert since 1975, at the time, 20 years old. I am now 68 and still very happy with the paths I have taken in life, since then. I have absolutely no regrets. My conversion to the LDS faith has been the best decision of my life. My second best decision was my wife. I’m thankful for an interview that finally paints a fair and balanced view of my church. Thank you Peter! And God bless! And the other says @AVKRU88 15 minutes ago Mormons are perverting the scriptures and their religion is of the devil. They are all going to hell because they rejected the one and only savior Lord Jesus Christ. You should be asking yourself so why is this hard to find info on. There are 17mm members. It should be easy.
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  103.  @TheLordSorin  he was either a genius with supper hypnotherapy powders or these people aren't lying
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  104. Lets see the receipts...
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  105.  @kennyjohn1194  I have one that I know of. But it's about 10% of the native population. So yes some issues but. No Salt Lake valley was empty, and if' you knew what you were talking about you would know that. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  106. I"'m sorry the opinion is true. Google why atheist think like Christians.
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  107. read the manifesto
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  108. Jared, did you visit the St George Temple open house?
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  109. Have you read the book of Mormon?
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  110.  @nookymonster1  That Jesus Christ is the savior? or that people can travel on boats? I would look up LIDAR in the Amazon or Hebrew in America's etc, and maybe think a little less racist about the people that lived here. They are not "heathens' but our brothers and sisters.
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  111.  @nookymonster1  I have “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain You know that we had the first unsegregated churches in the south right, and Missouri tried to kill us because we are agents slavery because like the book of Mormon says "all are alike unto god.. black and white.."
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  112.  @heathwiniesdorffer6921  the restored gospel of Jesus Christ has changed my life!
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  113.  @ViolentRainbow  Ironic, that Members of the church of Jesus Christ aren't allowed to support those good Muslims that buck the popular view. But you're sarcasm is not something I wish to engage with.
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  114. Yeah it's nice to have unbiased things like this. I'm a member of the church and I love it. A video like this gives a chance for people to hear the crazy and the uncrazy.
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  115. True, may grandpa's Grandpa lived with Joseph Smith and was shoot for this church. The extermination order was lifted in 1979. It's new. The Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ has changed my life for the better.
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  116. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  117. Amen
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  118. I think you are misinformed. one of the reasons that Joseph Smith was killed is because he was running for President on an anti slavery bad word.
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  119. *anti slavery platform
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  120. "And the Lord called his people Zion, because they were of one heart and one mind, and dwelt in righteousness; and there was no poor among them." We fail at this, because no on is perfect, but we're trying to live the above scripture.
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  121.  @lukev483  this isn't Canada or the catholic church. There is more to that story
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  122.  @jeffs4483  You are ill informed my friend: “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  123.  @homemademusic7  Constantine understood the commandment that the churches need to be one but he did it by force and by making up doctrine. That doctrine is what permeates all of Christianity, Not the doctrine of the new testament in its simplicity. Where do you think satan came from? And evil? If you believe Constantine we all came out of God including satan and nothing existed without God. Is Jesus Christ the Son of God are we sons and daughters god?
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  124. 🤣🤣🤣 Hey we tried Ohio and 2 other states first. No one wanted Utah back then.
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  125. In a business shareholders get rich. Who are the Shareholders? Who is getting rich?
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  126. Or ask how an all powerful God let satan sneak into the garden.
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  127.  @lost4guam  sorry not sorry...🤣
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  128. there is a documentary about about religious documents being forgeries, But not what your thinking or inferring by the statement.
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  129. And it's a well done documentary and legit. FYI I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
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  130.  @LisaKayOGQueen  Because it's in your text that's exactly what you're inferring you're inferring the documentary refers to that data house and it is full of forgeries or has some forgeries in it. That is not what the documentary is about at all.
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  131.  @LisaKayOGQueen  Just go watch the documentary if you have a question about it then you could know that the panning shot has nothing to do with the documentary.
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  132.  @LisaKayOGQueen  You are free not to reply or read the message. Have a nice life.
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  133. Right, we're only so crazy :)
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  134. You can't put new wine in old bottles. Constantine changed the doctrine, and the plan and simple has been brought back.
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  135. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  136. Yes we're definitely not nicene Christians
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  137. Most are republicans
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  138. And most likely your employer or manager.
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  139. 👍
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  140. That is what people used to think .... The also used to think the amazon was always a dense rain forest.
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  141. Anyone can say what you believe is a joke. For example, you may believe that lighting struck the water and created a robot and that robot every so small could make a copy of itself....
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  142.  @Phil9874  sadly sin is the great restrictor, not my religion
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  143. Fun fact, we don't really believe in hell. You may want to check what you think you know about the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
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  144. Also happened to a few other people. Let's say see... Jesus Stephen Daniel.. The list goes on
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  145. Trinitarians>>> Galatians 1 8 Wake up you're in it. Luther and Constantine came and preached it. And now you're living it. And it looks like you have not read the cover of the BOM or are lying for some reason.
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  146.  @onlyJesusbride  Look again, you're reading it wrong.
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  147.  @onlyJesusbride  I'm saying you're reading the front cover of the BOM incorrectly, and you should go back or google a picture of the front of the cover. You're doing better than most if you read your bible and follow Jesus Christ. Also if you're not being affected by Prestcraft you're also doing better than most. I love the verses you quoted and they are part of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I would recommend reading the Book of Mormon for yourself It is not what Paul warned about. Luther and Constantine are what paul warned about and people are living under their influence. Jesus Christ is the God of the Whole earth. He had other sheep that "he must bring" That is why you should read the book of Mormon. It has deepened my relationship with Jesus Christ. Good luck! Happy to answer any questions you have. One thing you should ask yourself. Is why did the Jews Reject Jesus Christ? Especially as you look into the restored gospel of Jesus christ.
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  148. 1823 is when he first reported them and 17 other people saw them and never denied seeing them. Of the 17, 3 saw an angel. and 3 died for their witness seeing them. So yeah isn't an insane claim if not true. I believe the witnesses. Not really anything like Mohammad at all. Joseph wrote himself and hundreds witnessed the miracles and angels of the restoration. This is a red herring. Also, Jesus Came to Joseph and Sydeny and testified he was the Christ and the God of the whole world. And no definably didn't claim to be the final prophet. We have a prophet today. He's awesome. I think you should do a little more research before you spread info. IMHO The book of Mormon Changed my life. It brought me so much closer to JESUS CHRIST Good Luck
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  149. Bro, read the bible for yourself! Don't let others interpret it goofy for you.
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  150. We don't want to "make you" anything. The book of Mormon is amazing. We want you to see it for yourself and let it "make you" the most amazging. But life is all what you want it to be, so that's good news!
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  151. Yes it is! I love the Cult of Jesus Christ! I would follow him anywhere.
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  152. Yep, we've had it for ever, even before cars. It's some of the worst air in the states. Geography sucks.
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  153. Or sure one of the best
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  154. Not in the Salt Lake Valley. There was on the Utah lake. But Salt Lake Valley was a wasteland. I've seen a few people make this comment. It seems like they don't know the history. This isn't like Orgen, where it's easy to live and people fight over hunting and farming ground. No one lived in Salt lake Valley. Lots of other places in Utah. and their was conflict there. But not till 1865 and you should go do your research on that.
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  155.  @maamerbelakhra9455  🤣🤣 that's funny i though the same thing from your post. I was just trying to give you an accurate history so your not spending misinformation.
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  156.  @maamerbelakhra9455  The nice part is you can go do that research for yourself. It's just something you should do before you spread information you don't know anything about. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  157.  @maamerbelakhra9455  no assumptions, go check the well documented record by many, not just members of our faith or white people.
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  158.  @maamerbelakhra9455  you can verify for yourself, then you can spread things you actually know about
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  159. My grandpa's grandpa was one of Joseph Smith's first wives. She had her choice. But yes you're right Emma didn't like it.
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  160. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so. “ – Mark Twain
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  161.  @blusheep2  Which bio? He didn't "learn it" 1837 a book came out called "Mormonism unveiled" That book is filled with affidavits. It's even quoted by Richard bushman. Here is the problem. Historan have later learned that half of the people that created affidavits didn't even live in the area at the time.
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  162.  @blusheep2  yes that one is one that does a good job, not 100% accurate I'm sure that's impossible. Especially when some affidavits are proven to be impossible
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  163. Should take a theologian to know the difference. If they confess to Jesus they are sinners and and ask him to save them, then they are Christian.
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  164.  @elifritts  That said it shouldn't take a theologian. I thought the historic creeds were for Catholic Christians.
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  165.  @elifritts  Okay I'm not a fan of the creeds as they don't claim to be written by inspiration, I'm not sure what authority they have, so it sounds like you're adding stuff. Do they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and ask Him to forgive their Sins or not?
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  166.  @elifritts  🤔 Okay so "Do they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and ask Him to forgive their Sins or not?" I'm assuming that if they are asking Jesus To forgive them they are thinking he's God right? It sounds like you think you have some sort of authority of think other's do and can write inspiration? Are you a prophet? How am I to test if you're telling me the truth or these other creeds that come after. That are added to the bible? Are you a sheep or a wolf?
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  167.  @elifritts  The bible says Jesus is the great I am and that the word was God (in some translations deity) and that Jesus was the word, etc. The bible does also seem to have two different versions of God and Old Testament and a new testament version. One that is one person and one that is three people. or at least two people with a spirit of the father. I feel like you're making up stuff? Are you a wolf or a sheep, You're pulling things out of the bible that the bible doesn't say? Are you a wolf or a sheep?
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  168.  @elifritts  NGL? what does that mean? Not Mormon. I read my bible every day and my question is are you a wolf or a sheep? What makes your able to teach others your perspective?
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  169.  @elifritts  I don't know what you mean? Maybe explain it to me. I've heard some people explain it to me and they are wolfs. So i"m trying to see if you are a wolf or a sheep, and why I should believe you. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
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  170.  @elifritts  Okay you sound like a wolf... You just said "Bible teaches...." "there is one God and three divine persons" I've only seen Isiah say their is one God Where does the bible say "three divine persons"" Did you not see the video? The Hebrew has more names than you just said. Are you calling him a wolf? Is your bible better than his? Who is the wolf? You or him?
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  171. There are very few Black people in Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and Montana. There are very few people in those states relative to other states in general.
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