Comments by "turquoisestones" (@turquisestones) on "CNN"
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"If Russia didn’t want Ukraine to attack them they shouldn’t have attacked Ukraine first. How is this hard to understand?"
- In February 2013, Viktor Yanukovych, the legally elected president of Ukraine recognized as such by the whole world including the West, was deposed as a result of a revolution, which was an act of gross violation of the Constitution of Ukraine. The Constitution explicitly allows for changes in state power only through democratic elections, and it prohibits any form of revolution as a means to alter the government. Following this event, eastern regions of Ukraine, including Crimea, Luhansk, and Donetsk (the last two collectively known as Donbass), which are home to significant ethnic Russian populations, rejected the authority of the illegal government in Kiev and declared their independence. That was a de facto collapse of the state of Ukraine.
In response, the acting Ukrainian government under Oleksandr Turchynov deployed military forces to Donbass in April 2014 and initiated heavy shelling of the region, thus, killing a lot of civillians. Donbass mobilized its forces and retaliated. This is, in fact, how this war started. Since then Russia had repeatedly voiced her concerns over that, but the West was always ignoring Russia's concerns while still supplying the illegal Kiev's regime with weapons and miltary instructors to help Kiev submit Donbass. In 2022, when it was already obvious that the West was not going to stop and that Kiev was still going to submit Donbass by military means, Russia went ahead and recognized Luhansk and Donetsk as saparate states and then sent its troops there to protect those regions from Kiev's agression.
How is all of this hard to understand?
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@DavidLaFerney "Russia actually annexed those areas of Ukraine..."
- You annex some areas of another state when that state exists and has the legal control over those areas. When Russia showed up in Crimea and 8 years later in Donbass, the state of Ukraine that is defined in the Constitution of Ukraine had already collapsed and was no longer existing. And the new authorities in Kiev had no legal right to have any control over those regions. The Constitution of Ukraine, which is the very law that defined the state of Ukraine, DID NOT allow a change of state power by means of a revolution. However, revolution is exactly what happened in February 2013. Hence, the new authorities in Kiev were illegal and no region was in any way obliged to submit to them. Hence, Crimea and Donbass declared their independence. This is how the state of Ukraine defined in the Constitution stopped existing. Therefore, if Russia "annexed" anything, it only annexed Crimea of Crimea, and Donbass of Donbass. However, both Crimea and Donbass, being ethnicly Russians, were more than happy with that kind of "annexation".
"...annexed those areas of Ukraine and in 2022 invaded with the clear intention to take the entire country"
- If that intention is so clear, then answer: Why Russia didn't try doing anything like that before the unconstitutional revolution of February 2013 took place in Kiev? After all, Uktraine was much weaker then as the West hadn't yet started supplying it with weapons and military instructors as it did later.
"I suspect next there will be ethic Russians in Moldova that need protection. Yes?"
- Sure. If something similar to Ukraine happens there, that is, a coup or a revolution - an unconstitutional change of state power - with the new illegal authorities yet trying by force to submit Russian-populated regions and those regions consequently declaring their independence, then Russia will have all the rights to recognize those new states and then provide its protection for them.
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@anjafark "Any possible inner conflict in Ukraine never was Russia's buiseness"
- No more than it was ever the USA's business when it bombed Yugoslavia in 1999, or Iraq in 2004, or when it showed up uninvited in Syria. However, there is a difference: unlike Ukraine and Russia, neither Yugoslavia, Iraq, nor Syria shares a border with the USA.
"If you want to fact-check - please: ..."
- Thank you. I just finished watching that German talking head. I haven't laughed so much in a long time! If you call that 'fact-checking,' then you're really disgracing yourself. The only possible justification you might have here is the chance that the auto-generated translation into English (I don’t understand German) isn’t fully accurate.
I wonder what kind of 'neo-imperial voices in Russia of the mid-90s' that pundit is referring to. Yeltsin basically let Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia go, and even after he stepped down in the year of 2000, he once visited those states, where they praised him for 'granting them freedom.' Neo-imperial voices in Russia in the mid-90s are simply a product of imagination of that German guy. I remember very well what Russia was like in the 90s. If there were any 'imperial voices,' they only began after NATO started bombing Yugoslavia in 1999 without UN Security Council approval, thus violating international law.
Another funny thing he says in that video is that 'Crimea was given to Ukraine by Khrushchev because of infrastructure connections between Crimea and Ukraine.' LOL! He really doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It was all the USSR at that time. Even if there were any closeness in terms of infrastructure, this connectivity would have existed perfectly well without the need to assign Crimea to Ukraine. Besides, it’s a well-known fact that Khrushchev gave Crimea to Ukraine simply on a personal whim.
It’s obvious that he wasn’t in Donbas or Crimea right after the coup took place in Kyiv in February 2014. It’s hilarious to me, as someone who WAS in Donbas at that time, to hear him claim that pro-Russian sentiments in Crimea then 'were not strong' or that 'separatism in Donbas was brought from outside.' And, of course, he said nothing about Kyiv's starting to shell Donbas in April 2014, which is how this war began.
There are way too many absurdities in that video for me to address them all. But one more is worth mentioning—how that idiot calls the revolution in Kyiv in February 2014 a 'democratic movement, in which President Yanukovych was removed,' while conveniently 'forgetting' that it was a gross violation of Ukraine’s Constitution, which didn’t permit revolutions. Heck, even the impeachment procedure against Yanukovych—which the Constitution required—was never initiated!
In fact, according to the Constitution, the Parliament had no right to appoint the acting president, Turchynov, at that time or to announce early presidential elections without impeachment. The new authorities that came to power did so through a violation of the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the state. As such, the new authorities had no constitutional right to exercise control over any region of Ukraine. This is why Donbas and Crimea declared their independence from Kyiv, after which Turchynov decided to 'return' Donbas by force—leading to the deaths of thousands of people there. Again: this was the starting point of this war, which is going on untill today.
None of this, of course, was ever mentioned in that video. So much for 'fact-checking'! :)
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