Comments by "agon noga" (@agonnoga6100) on "India's Artillery Modernisation: Lessons from Kargil, Russia-Ukraine War u0026 catching up with China" video.

  1. China has a huge advantage over India when it comes to 1. ISTAR i.e. Intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, reconnaissance 2. Cyber war 3. Electronic warfare 4. Electro magnetic spectrum domination 5. AI 6. Unmanned UCAVs, drones, loitering munitions 7. Stand off munitions 8. Rocket force The above are only a few areas but which will be far more important than artillery and light tanks. India needs to work with USA for a more than 1000 kms range HIMARS. India needs to take the help of Isreal and Russia to build a more than 1000 kms range S400 type system. Artillery even with rocket assisted shells can hit at most targets 100 kms away. This won't be of much use against China where distances involved are huge. India needs to work with USA for a rapid dragon type palletized munitions. PS: It is not Bofors artillery but Israeli laser guided bombs dropped from Mirage 2000 that changed the course of war in Kargil. Pakistan army had entrenched themselves well in Kargil disguised as Kashmiri Mujahideen. They had factored in shelling from Indian military and therefore had prepared for the same. Even after extensive and intensive shelling India couldn't dislodge the Pakistanis. India tried aerial attacks but those too failed. It is after this India took help of Isreal to integrate laser guided bombs with Mirage 2000. It is only after this precision bombing from Mirage 2000 that Pakistanis suffered heavy casualties leading to Nawaz Sharif imploring Bill Clinton to stop the war. This created animosity between Nawaz Sharif and Gen Musharraf which ultimately led to a military coup by Musharraf against Nawaz Sharif.
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  2. @tupolevi  I don't know about Chinese army but what you have said about Indian army is true due to its colonial roots.
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  3. ATAGS is basically Israeli Athos that both Tata and Kalyani were peddling to Indian military. Isreal offered to sell this system at less than 50% of the price being charged by Tata and Kalyani to the Indian military. In the first Sino Japanese war, the Chinese navy lost miserably because they were supplied with dud munitions. Recently many Chinese top brass were sacked because of fake propellants in Chinese rockets and missiles. Can we allow shady private companies with no product let alone expertise into defense manufacturing? The list of corruption in defense procurement is endless. Will defense procurement through private companies get scrutinized by CAG CVC etc? At what price is India assembling Korean K9 and European C295 in India through L&T and Tata who have zero expertise in this area? It is not small Ukrainian drones but NATO AWACS, AEW, ISTAR aircrafts, HALE drones, spy satellites which are providing superior situational awareness and real time precision targeting to western weapons supplied to Ukraine. No wonder Russian jet fired missile at a RAF Joint Rivet intelligence gathering aircraft and another Russian jet dumped fuel over a USAF drone. The biggest challenge will be posed by drone swarms and loitering munitions. The Iranian Shahed drones have range excess of 1500 kms. Chinese have large number of such drones. Conventional artillery whether fixed or mobile have been found to be sitting ducks against such systems both in Ukraine and Armenia.
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