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Comments by "agon noga" (@agonnoga6100) on "Killing Maoists isn’t extinguishing the deep rage of Adivasis in Bastar" video.
What is happening in the Adivasi belt aka Red Corridor is not a fight between leftist guerrillas and government but a fight between Adivasis and Dilli Durbar monopolized by non tribal political parties who look at these people with contempt and disdain. An upper caste BJP leader urinated on a tribal best symbolizes the feeling of those who rule India towards these people.
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Adivasis in Naxalbari are not natives of Bengal but migrant laborers from Jharkhand brought here by the British to work in their plantations. The current supposedly leftist movement in Jharkhand, Chhattisgarh, Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh, Telengana etc where the Adivasis are the sons of the soil the fight is over the land and resources between the Adivasis and non tribals who are encroaching on their land. Naxal movement has little connect with the current conflict between the tribals and non tribals in central India erroneously described as the Red Corridor.
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@prasenjitbarman8860 Adivasis are not "Maoists" but tribals fighting for their land and rights. They have got little to do with communist ideology. Modi is changing the law whereby lands hitherto considered tribal lands can be used for commercial exploitation. Let the bhoomiputras decide their idea of development. Let it not be imposed on them by someone who wants to loot their wealth.
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@chappalkasukh yo, that is what Modi and their ilk want. Window dressing by putting puppets in crucial positions so that no one questions their agenda.
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@bhoori-i5j Asli history se itna dar lagta hai?
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@JHenry906 It is not Rasbansis but Rajbongshis which is a name given by Bengali people to Sino Burmese people who invaded and occupied some parts of Bengal along with NE which was under Burmese occupation till 1832CE. Mongoloid people are of Chinese or Burmese origin and not the natives of India. The original Adivasis of Bengal are the Santhals, rest are recent migrants from Jharkhand.
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@JHenry906 Forest dwelling Adivasis are not Marxists or Communists. They are indigenous people of India fighting for their rights which the Dilli Durbar for its convenience tries to pass off as a leftist movement. Left movement was strong in Andhra Pradesh, Punjab, West Bengal, Tripura and still has some presence in Kerala. These are states where people are highly educated.
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@prasenjitbarman8860 If you look at your name Barman, it means someone who hails from Burma. Rajbongshi is the name given to Sino Burmese people by local Bengalis when Burma invaded and occupied parts of North Bengal and North East. On the contrary, it is you who migrated to Bengal and not the other way. Your community's original name would be something else and not Rajbongshi. Both the central and state government deliberately hide these facts to buy peace.
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@prasenjitbarman8860 tell me the history of Rajbongshis in this area Mr.Expert??
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@JHenry906 North East was a collection of Bengali kingdoms which were first invaded and occupied by the Tai Chinese from Yunnan in circa 1200CE. This is when Bengali Kamrupa became Assam named after the Tai Chinese Ahoms. The Meitei of Manipur and Ahoms are Chinese Tai like the Thai people of Thailand and possibly Vietnamese. From 1400 CE, North East faced invasions from Burma and eventually became a part of Burma till 1832CE. It is in this period Sino Burmese people settled in North Bengal and North East. In 1832CE East India Company liberated North East from Burma and returned to India but with majority Chinese and Burmese origin people a large number of whom don't accept themselves as Indians which is the root cause of never ending insurgencies, inter tribal, tribal vs non tribal conflicts in the north east. This part of Indian history, no one will tell you.
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@JHenry906 prior to invasion by Tai Chinese Su Ka Pha, Kamrupa, Manipur, Tripura were all Bengali kingdoms which is why everything ancient about these places are similar to Bengali whereas the population is predominantly Sinic or Burmese.
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@prasenjitbarman8860 Since when Nepalis became natives of north east?? 😆 🤣 😂 You are mixing up things big time. Everything about NE is Bengali and not Nepali, Chinese or Burmese which is what these tribes are. NE is part of India because historically they are the ancestral lands of Bengalis. Otherwise NE should be part of China or Burma as the majority population consists of people of Chinese and Burmese origin.
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@prasenjitbarman8860 I asked you a simple question. Please tell me the history of Rajbongshi in North Bengal to claim it as your land?? How people of Burmese origin ended up in NE and North Bengal? The institutions in New Delhi and Kolkata have given you people ST status which is against what I have mentioned.
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@prasenjitbarman8860 Barman is not similar to Varman. Barman surname was given to those who hail from Burma. Rajbongshis are Sino Burmese people and not Indo Aryan let alone Dravidian which will be evident in a DNA test. Living in India for few centuries will lead to some mixing of blood which too will be revealed in a DNA test.
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@prasenjitbarman8860 If we check your DNA, it'll be similar to which people, Indians or Burmese?? Varman does not mean Burma but Burman, Barman and similar surnames were given to those who hail from Burma. Burmese people are very different and are not Kirat people who are mentioned in mythology but not in history as there's no presence of such people on the ground. The Mech/Bodos are not Meleech as they were Dravidian or Australoid not Mongoloid. This is evident in the tantric form of worship which isn't how Mongoloid people worshipped as they were animists. Varman, Pala, Baro Bhuyans were Bengalis and Indo Aryan rulers of Kamrupa. Hence they brought the Vedic Sanskritized culture to this part of India. Then came Ahoms from Yunnan who in turn were replaced by the Burmese. This is how Burmese people ended up in North Bengal and North East. The word Koch is a Sinic and not Indic name. Same is the case of Oxom erroneously pronounced as Ahoms and Meitei. Mahabharata and Ramayana are mythological epics, they are not historical facts. Historical facts are what you see on the ground.
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@prasenjitbarman8860 the tribes of central India and the Santhals of Bengal are the moolnivasis but Mongoloid people are not. Now you are saying your ancestors came from Tibet which is incorrect as NE was never a part of Tibet and Tibetan people are very different from the Burmese or Chinese people. Yes Indo Aryan migrated to this place after the Dravidians and Australoid people. But the Mongoloid people settled here only after 1200 CE Tai invasion of occupation of NE. Show me one historical, archeological evidence that proves presence of you people prior to Dravidians and Indo Aryans? Mech are from Nepal. They are not natives of India. There's no evidence to prove that people from Tibet, Nepal, China and Burma were the original inhabitants of India's NE and North Bengal.
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@JHenry906 True. Bangal and Bangali are Persian words given to the people of what we call today West Bengal and Bangladesh during Mughal occupation. But, NE was a collection of Bengali kingdoms which during the Mughal occupation went under Tai Chinese and Burmese occupation till 1832CE. Which is why majority of the people of NE look more like Chinese or Burmese but many follow culture, customs, religion similar to Bengali.
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@prasenjitbarman8860 Rai Limbu Mech are Nepalis. 😆 🤣 😂 You want to tell me Nepalis are natives of NE and North Bengal?? Now I suspect that you are a Nepali trying to pass himself as a Rajbongshi. No wonder you are so paranoid. Which historian uses mythology as his source of reference?? Kindly give me their names? Only a Nepali Chinese Burmese will vehemently deny Bengali origin of Baro Bhuyan, Pala, Varman 😆. Lying doesn't changes the historical facts. Singha is a Bengali surname but you claim you are not Bengali. Then how did your ancestors have Bengali surname?? Everything of Kamrupa the language, script, culture, customs, cuisine, religion including DNA of the real indigenous people of NE are similar to those of Bengalis. These are well known scientific empirical facts and not something from mythology. I don't need any book but like Sherlock Holmes look at the evidences on the ground to get the correct and scientific picture.
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@prasenjitbarman8860 our epics tell us Nepalis, Chinese, Burmese are indigenous people of India?? 😆 What are you smoking?? The Kirats are the aborigine Dravidian and Australoid people described as dark skinned and not yellow skinned Rakshasas. It seems you are not aware today's Nepal was created sometime in 1700s by a Rajasthani king who took refuge here after fleeing from the Mughals. Later on in 1857, Nepal played a very big role in helping East India Company put down the sepoy mutiny of troops largely from UP Bihar. This is why East India Company/British gifted large chunks of north UP and Bihar to Nepal. This is how the Madhesis of Nepal have the same ethnicity, culture, language, religion etc of people of UP Bihar. The biggest proof is in our blood, culture, customs, history etc.
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@prasenjitbarman8860 What do Gotkha Nepalis have in common with Madhesis?? Why Gorkhas consider Madhesis as Biharis and not Nepalis which reflected in Nepal's new constitution leading to the months long blockade of Nepal by the Madhesis?? The Ahoms and Meitei are Tai Chinese but they have adopted local Bengali language, culture, customs when they settled in Kamrupa the real name of undivided Assam. This doesn't makes them Bengalis or Indians by blood. Same case with the Gorkhas. One of the reason why no Madhesi from Nepal is recruited in the Gorkha regiments since British rule.
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@prasenjitbarman8860 If you go by epics then they don't describe the Kiratas as mongoloid people but as dark skinned people whom they likened to demons. Hidimba was from NE and was considered a demon. The founders of today's Nepal were Rajasthani kings and not the natives of Nepal. There were local kings but Nepal as a country only came into existence sometime in 1700s.
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