Comments by "" (@HigherPlanes) on "TED-Ed"
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Oh, and your logic is so out of this world...because you're saying that because there's scientific evidence for something, that makes it safe. So adderall, concerta, zoloft, ritalin, lexapro, zyprexa, etc.... all these drugs distributed to kids to control their behavior, and which they continually bash on this channel, are safe, because they have scientific documents attached to them? Winning argument there my man. How do you feel about big macs?
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sonicpsycho13
Honestly, I didn't study chemistry so I can't run my own experiments and varify how many calories would be released from an apple for example, if I were to consume it cooked vs eat it raw. But to borrow from your example, I can't imagine that heating a ripe piece fruit would release 8,500 additional cal vs the 1,500 that would be released in its raw form. That just doesn't make any sense to me as fruits are farily simple compunds- sugar and fiber- compared to other foods. Either way, if you can provide me with the data I'd gladly take a look.
I come from a country where meat and cheese is the staple food. We love our beef and we're actually one of the largest exporters of quality beef in the world. Colon cancer afflicts a large portion of our population, and much like in the West, most people die from cancer. So you have to assume one of two things, humans beings are condemned to suffer disease and illness or there's a problem with consuming meat and cheese.
So I think saying that we evolved to eat meat is just a huge unverifiable claim. How can we really know? It's just another debate that will probably never be settled. So you try to make decisions based on the raw data and common sense. What is the raw data? Well, apparently, as I mentioned earlier, cancer and disease is rampant in modern society. What are the culprits? Look at the typical human diet. What do people typically consume? The big list is sugar, flour, meat, dairy, fruit, vegetables, legumes, grains, etc. Armed with this inforamtion you make lifestyle changes. That's honestly how I've approached this situation.
I don't do it to be right, or becuase I think there's only one type of food humans must eat, after all, when I was a kid I survived primarily on junk food and candy, I'm doing it becuase I see the evidence before me and what people consume and I think to myself, "something's not right", then I stop thinking and surrender to nature. Look me up when I'm 80 and I'll let you know how it's going. I don't want to live forever, just want to die gracefully
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sonicpsycho13
We know fiber is a transport system and insoluble. So when drago mentioned something like an additional 8,500 calories being released by the application of heat, I assumed we were talking about nutrients available to the body- that's the point of all this- what exits as waste is not important. But that's how it is on youtube, sometimes you competence sometimes you get clumsiness lol.
BTW- it's only a hypothesis that our large brain correlates to consuming protein/fats, it's not an established theory like say, for example, "the Earth revolves around the sun" That's a proven hypothesis. The brain/protein theory is speculation and there are other theories to contend with it. I'm not trying to nitpick, but I think you also might be off humans having short guts, our guts are relatively long compared to other mammals. Cats and canines do have a shorter gut becuase they do consume meat, which becomes putrid and needs to exit the gut early. BTW- what do you consider a short gut? I'm 90% sure on this but you can look it up, but the human gut length compared to other mammals is up there: I did a quick glance on this but it might be helpful:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/vestiges/appendix.html
Last thing... to assume that the prevalence of cancer in modern society results from an increased life expectancy is an assertion that humans are intrinsically designed and predisposed to illnesses like cancer. I'm not convinced that's the case. For the sake of accuracy, let's avoid speculation and stick with the facts.
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sonicpsycho13
I'm sorry, but there's a difference between stipulation and discovery. For an argument to be valid, you must have consitency, but validity is not soundness, it's not truth. If you want certainty, you need validity and sound premesis. An argument that doesn't have sound premisis, can yield false conclusions. i.e. "Homonid brain-body ratios raising along with the discovery of artifacts used for hunting, skinning, and butchering = increased brain size" which doesn't take into account other environmental factors that could have been present leading to an increased brain size. One must not pretend to know, or have answers to questions when we don't have them. We all just assume reason's realiability without foundation, without justification, to support our knowledge claims. Reason, broadly construed, is based on presuppositions. And having presupposed a pile of things, we use reason to arrive and elaborate and defend things that make up our web of belief, or pre edifice of knowledge. That's not how logic works. I assure you, that the increase in brain size theory is still up for debate.
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carpo719
Well it's pointless in so far as to think we can actually do it- that is, understand everything- but that's not to say that we shouldn't try. We're curious by nature so we'll do it regardless.
I don't know, I think that if a scientists who's intelligent, open minded and not so full of himself tried it, he might be humbled by the experience, and if he's an influential and powerful kinda fella, maybe he can pull some strings, change some policy... but I digress, I'm too much of a dreamer.
You are right though, some of us are explorers, some of us are not. BTW- how pure can you get with your recipie?
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TheThinkingApeMan
Yes, I get what you're saying about physical systems doing whatever it is that they do regardless of human thought, but two things; One, I don't believe that human thought constitutes consciousness, rather it's an aspect of it. I believe his definition of consciousness is something much deeper and more esential, beyond the boundaries of the human mind. Two, reality is strange my friend. I mean we've been here a bleep in the scale of time, and look at what we've discovered with quantum entanglement, for example, which violates all laws of classical mechanics, and we've just scratched the surface. Complex things aren't always what they appear to be
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