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@gandydancer9710 Was accommodating Russia's and America's hegemony over Europe at the expense of the British Empire justified ?
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@gandydancer9710 It was actually Britain that declared war on Germany.
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Yes he made countless peace offers before Poland was defeated, after Poland was defeated, before the invasion of France, after it, and so on. It was the British who wanted war, not Germany.
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@gandydancer9710 So your statement of "Hitler started the war" is incorrect.
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@Jinke888 He either didn't respond or the only response I've read in a newspaper, probably one of the very early ones, was obviously something ridiculous like "we'd only negotiate if Germany withdraws all its forces from Poland". They obviously didn't want to negotiate.
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@gandydancer9710 and for Britain it started when they declared it
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@gandydancer9710 I don't know how you fail to understand that it was Britain that chose to go to war with Germany, not the other way around.
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@castlerock58 Germany may at most, have chosen war with Poland after the Polish ultimatum of August 4th. But including war time strategic countries just doesn't count. Otherwise we could well say that "Britain needed to be stopped, they chose war when they invaded Norway, Portugal, Iran, Iceland etc. etc."
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@castlerock58 Roberts doesn't know what he's talking about either, the only difference between him and Cooper is that Roberts has good rhetorical skill which makes it look like he knows what he's talking about.
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@paddy864 I haven't seen once Roberts back up any of his claims with evidence. He just talks as if what he says is fact when it isn't or at best out of context, which is rather ironic since that is exactly what he accuses cooper of doing.
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@gandydancer9710 "Britain couldn't do anything about it" Too bad our leaders couldn't see that before starting a war.
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@IvanLeonard-b7y "Abandon them to their fate?" That is literally what we did, we had no power to do anything about their fates, other than to promise them to the Soviet Union's orbit. What Harry is suggesting, is that we don't utterly destroy ourselves coming to terms with these facts.
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Churchill inherited the British Empire and a vast wealth, he left office leaving it in ruins, occupied by a hostile foreign power and a penniless treasure. If you think Liz Truss was a terrible Prime Minister for jeopardizing the economy then it's entirely illogical to think Churchill as "the greatest". Was Churchill a villain ? If you argue that Hitler was a warmonger, then Churchill was an even bigger one, he was the only minister to vote to join WW1, campaigned for WW2 and even planned for WW3.
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@Brommear yes, you should read Simon Newman's "March 1939 the british guarantee to poland". Roberts wouldn't want you to, but the book actually studies British policy of the time.
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The founding myth is also that "Germany started WW2", wikipedia and "historians" like Roberts would say the war started on 1st September, when the truth is that there was no state of war between the UK and Germany until 3rd September, and the great question is "what if France and or Britain didn't declare war on 3rd September" then we wouldn't have had WW2 at that time. It's like saying WW3 started on 22nd February 2022. It's utterly counterfactual yet presented as factual merely because they are well spoken "accredited historians".
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@ManForToday And most politicians at the time literally cared less for the internal politics of Germany at the time. Such things only became a key subject in war time propaganda and primarily even from post war propaganda.
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@shivill2236 There's not a shred of evidence that Hitler ever wanted to "control Western Europe".
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@gandydancer9710 Yeah, read Simon Newman's "march 1939 the british guarantee to poland" for further context. Here's a good excerpt: Halifax described the dilemma to the Foreign Policy Committee, the choice was between 'doing nothing', which would mean 'a great accession to Germany's strength and a great loss to ourselves of sympathy and support', and 'entering into a devastating war'. He preferred the latter course. Thus the guarantee to Poland was never really thought of in terms of deterrence; it was regarded as a deliberate challenge. That it would be provocative to Germany and cause Polish intransigence on the questions at issue between the two countries, thereby increasing the probability of war, was expected. As we have seen, what finally convinced the British Government that this policy had to be adopted was the fear that Poland might give in to pressure from Germany to remain neutral in return for some acceptable solution of the Danzig problem. The British had to prevent this eventuality because they considered that it would be detrimental to their interests; so detrimental, in fact, that they were prepared to risk a war to prevent it.
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@gandydancer9710 Dunno what happened to my other comment but read Simon Newman's "march 1939 the british guarantee to poland" and I quote one single sentence in this 200 page book: "what finally convinced the British Government that this policy had to be adopted was the fear that Poland might give in to pressure from Germany to remain neutral in return for some acceptable solution of the Danzig problem. The British had to prevent this eventuality because they considered that it would be detrimental to their interests; so detrimental, in fact, that they were prepared to risk a war to prevent it."
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The allies literally wrote about about the German conspiracy to start WW2 and "prosecuted" them on such conspiracy.
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The problem is some opinions are inherently wrong, such as Robert's assertions that the militarization of the Rhineland is in any way a notable contributor to the outbreak of the Second Anglo-German War, or that Hitler hated Poland and had long planned on invading them, when the reality is that in January 1939 he was having a conversation with Polish minister Beck about how much Danzig needed Poland and how Hitler wanted an agreement with Poland to protect Polish economic interests in the city. Hacks like Roberts simply counter all of this by saying "Hitler was a liar" and yet at the same time Roberts would say "Hitler wasn't a liar" when it comes to things that would make Hitler look bad based on the morals of a 21st century American student union, such as the plans for colonizing Russia.
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He saved the world from cheap holidays in the East European Plain.
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I love this question because it immediately exposes that the war declared upon Germany was not out of any consideration for Poland or any kind of upstanding moral obligation.
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@williamsnowden8186 You say that as people are currently serving jail time for saying mean things about immigrants on twitter.
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@gandydancer9710 No the US didn't destroy the UK, the Churchill regime voluntarily gave them all our money and our Empire. As to your last point, even when the Germans were victorious over Europe their economic ministers were writing about how they should merely urge and ask Denmark to join a currency union, arguing forward the benefits to their economy. In a timeline where war isn't thrusted upon Germany, I doubt they would use threats and force to create such a currency union lol. Nor would I describe Britain as "a wart". And certainly it would be much less of a wart to the German Empire as it currently is a wart to the American Empire.
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@KongSunWu its a joke
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United States hegemony is not "western civilization"
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