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Comments by "AFGuidesHD" (@AFGuidesHD) on "FASCISM DEFINED | The Difference between Fascism and National Socialism" video.
because "fascist" these days is used as a synonym for "baddie", "authoritarian" or "person i don't like"
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what a hot take that wikipedia page is "fascists mobilize the nation to prepare it for war" because Italy was famous for spending its 20+ years preparing and trying its best to start a war.
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"socialism becomes fascism" except the majority of "socialists" these days are of the internationalist type and therefore would never be fascists, no ?
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@TheLastSliceOfPie Except the original italian fascists used to be socialists and mostly come from working class backgrounds, I don't think they suddenly became aristocrats
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@fredoctober292 >Fascism; industry controls government That's just wrong though. Pretty sure the whole point of fascism was to have a strong government and therefore country, having industry work in the interests of the state and therefore the people rather than the people working for industry and industry working for capital
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@aintnoslice3422 >irght-wing people are so easily inclined towards (if they aren't already) racism, sexism etc. so explain why racial hierarchies are now predominantly peddled by self proclaimed left wing activists now whilst those on the right are open to conservative blacks ? you're whole post as you say is based on white countries, this does not work if you go to say, india, if a right wing white person was to go to india would they suddenly be far left for demanding white rights ? your whole post was based on social aspects explain how the national socialists were far right despite also believing in the eradication of class hierarchies? because there is also the third way >The desperation or shamelessness you have to resort to blatantly lie like this. No I don't lie but you sir, shamelessly insult constantly, its not good for you at all.
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@TheAngelobarker as well as the four power pact which also could have avoided war
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@aintnoslice3422 literally every country could be called fascist for invading countries or using military force. Would you call the United States fascist ?
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@aintnoslice3422 >is your understanding really that limited Its not my understanding it was your implication. >fascist Italy didn't spend its existence preparing to and fighting wars of invasion and conquest. again with this definition, the British Empire was fascist, or any other empire was fascist. I can't think of many who consider the British Empire to be fascist. and again, I don't think Italy spent it's entire existence building up armies, how could it have with its poor performance in WW2 ? imperialist ambitions, perhaps. but it did not spend its whole existence "preparing to and fighting wars". The wars against Albania and Greece were mostly opportunistic. Had WW2 not occurred who knows what would have happened. In any case i'm obviously not arguing that Fascist Italy wasn't fascist. Just the dumb "they invaded countries so they were fascist" argument.
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@aintnoslice3422 yeah but those are a bunch of buzzwords with extra qualities that can be attributed to most states like imperialism and authotarianism. You say I don't know what i'm talking about, you use "most historians" yet you call Franco a fascist despite most historians not considering him to be one.
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@aintnoslice3422 >Franco was labelled a fascist from even before he seized power. By commies, yeah, or his political opponents. Plenty of moderate right wing people are called nazis. Are you actually taking them as fact ? Fascism is probably I would describe as TIK did in his video on fascism. No I wouldn't just describe fascism as authotarian and people who want war. Because such a label can be applied to anyone. >right-wing' and 'left-wing' politics. Right wing economics favour less government control, left wing favors government control. Right wing socials favour the nation and its people whilst left wing are more open to multiculturalism. etc. >And of course, none of this justifies the faslehood of your first comment. Except it does because Fascism does not mean preparing for war.
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@aintnoslice3422 > So Monarchists are left-wing are they? No because I don't really use the left-right spectrum, its daft. >who is using buzzwords you >Dozens of historians a And I quote "he Nazis were disappointed with Franco's resistance to installing fascism. Historian James S. Corum states" Plenty of historians also point out how Franco was not in fact a fascist but a conservative authotarian. >fascist yeah i'm a fascist for wanting to be correct and not just throw buzzwords around or are you content with calling Donald Trump a Nazi ? >Not to mention, your comment is literally false literally false in the sense that Italy was soley preparing for war as you would imply. They developed an army like any nation develops an army. >No one ever has or does defines fascism simply as 'expansionist authoritarianism except you
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@ritarocha7280 yes
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@aintnoslice3422 ok so what is your definition of fascism ?
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@BaronsHistoryTimes >Nazism was the same as was Japan militarist fascism Japan was a traditional imperial monarchist state, nothing fascist about them.
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@BaronsHistoryTimes I don't think authoritarianism means fascism, or did the Japanese junta enact proportional representation, universal suffrage and votes for women ?
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@BaronsHistoryTimes Fascism is fascism and Japanese imperialism is Japanese imperialism. I don't know much about Japan but I doubt they advocated for anything in the fascist manifesto.
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@BaronsHistoryTimes Was that anything to do with fascism or just Italian geopolitics?
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@chriscarlone527 >expansionism, imperialism literally every country does that >war time economy neither germany or italy had a constant war time economy
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@chriscarlone527 well then by that definition fascism has never been tried before
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@dergutehut3961 Yeah I just don't buy these super generic descriptions of fascism. Most countries back then felt "superior" to others, especially africans, yet no serious academic would describe Churchill as a fascist despite his warmongering, seizure of power and racist views on the superiority of anglo-saxons.
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@coachhannah2403 you should probably use quotes when joining a months old 140+ post thread
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@dergutehut3961 wars have been started for about 200,00 years before fascism was a thing
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@dergutehut3961 "Didn't you try to imply that Italy doesn't fit into the description of fascsim because it didn't go to war. " No I implied the idiotic notion that a state is "fascistic" simply for going to war. As evidence by 200,000 years of human history. Everything else you say about the generic idea that fascist countries were run on some low IQ notion of strength and superiority is just dumb. Fascist Italy went to war when it felt it was best in its interest (Albania, Greece, Ethiopia) , and also tried its best to prevent wars when it was in its interests (the German Polish war). Like any other state in existence.
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@coachhannah2403 regarding what ?
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Not really Nation: a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.
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