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Comments by "Chris Nilsson" (@GenerationX1984) on "Raise the Minimum Wage" video.
I hope states that raise the minimum wage see economic boosts while states that don't suffer from crippling depression. Mostly because I'm a mean spirited person who thinks people should suffer for being wrong.
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Brian Mcmahon Raising the minimum wage used to help people in the 20th century. I wonder why it doesn't work anymore. Weird. Maybe people in this century are a little more retarded.
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Brian Mcmahon So, we increase the poverty rate among low wage workers to make sure Taco Bell doesn't have to raise its value menu by 25 cents while fast food is currently making record profits and probably won't go out of business because it is a franchise making record profits. The dishonest CEO-backed propaganda against minimum wage wins again. So why exactly didn't pragmatic minimum wage increases cause business to close their doors in the economic boom times of the 1980's and 1990's if it is so bad? Suddenly in the 21st century minimum wage can't do the same thing anymore. New century. New rules? Makes no sense. Unless you can give examples of how minimum wage increases failed America in the 20th century, you have no case.
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Ben Chesterman Adjusting minimum wage for inflation has historically worked. Why abandon something that works? If it was never broken, why fix it? FDR signed the federal minimum wage into law in 1938 and he was one of the most popular presidents in history. Why undo a great man's work? There was a time before federal minimum wage. It was called the height of the Great Depression and it sucked!
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Brian Mcmahon "How did you decide that it has worked?" Because it has worked during times of economic prosperity and helped pull the U.S. out of the Great Depression. The Depression ended just a year after the Fair Labor Standards Act (which started the minimum wage laws) was passed by FDR. Now, during this recession, working people are homeless (especially in larger cities where cost of living is too high) because wages are lower. My definition of "working" is when everybody makes enough to get by. Working class people who are on the streets, even if they currently only make minimum wage, is unacceptable. A janitor shouldn't have to be homeless just because he makes less than $9.00 an hour and the minimum wage is still only $7.25. Getting rid of the minimum wage or keeping it stagnant is a very regressive idea that would undo the work of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and set the economy back to depression-era standards.
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But it would be even worse than the Great Depression since America's financial sector is currently more corrupt than it was in the 1920's and 1930's.
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Brian Mcmahon People who can't see the poverty low wages are causing are out of touch with those most affected by the Recession. Out of touch people need to wander outside their bubble every once in a while. See what reality looks like.
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We have more working homeless in the U.S. today than we've had in 70 years. This is acceptable to some people. 44 percent of homeless are employed.according to the National Coalition for the Homeless. U.S. income inequality is at its highest since 1928 according to Pew Research.
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Even the Department of Labor debunks these myths about the minimum wage. www.dol.gov.
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I wish I knew who was perpetrating minimum wage myths that even the Department of Labor disagrees with here: www.dol.gov/featured/minimum-wage/mythbuster The only question left: What is the agenda of a person who perpetrates minimum wage myths that even the Department of Labor disagrees with? Personal profits at the expense of the minimum wage worker is the most logical agenda. Selfish people should be killed.
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+Brian Mcmahon The labor department DOES support the minimum wage. Didn't you read the link? It's not people who disagree with me who should be killed. It's people who deliberately and knowingly lie about the minimum wage issue who should be killed. Never suffer a liar to live. And yes. The CEO who says "get rid of minimum wage" says so out of selfishness. He knows he's lying about this issue. He knows.
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So yeah. I don't understand what was difficult to understand in that response: The minimum wage myths are the myths YOU believe. The Department of Labor debunks those myths. Pretty straightforward.
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You asked: What kinds of people do I think work for the government? All kinds of people. Senators, FBI agents, and mostly ordinary people with a few cronies and bad apples mixed in. But mostly ordinary people. You asked: Do I think they believe in free markets? Yes. The vast majority do. Otherwise we wouldn't still have free markets. You stated: They are socialist in every way but name. All right then. So? That doesn't debunk the fact that minimum wage and fair labor laws that you call "socialist" appear to have brought us out of the great depression under Franklin D. Roosevelt. What are you so afraid of with minimum wage? You have nothing to fear but fear itself as FDR often said. Fear is a cancer.
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Brian Mcmahon Also, how can the black teenage unemployment rate be at a "historical" high rate BECAUSE of minimum wage? False correlation when you consider that it wasn't at a historic high when minimum wage was higher compared to rate of inflation. If minimum wage was the cause of high black unemployment we would have seen a higher black unemployment rate in the 1970's when minimum wage was at its highest. Your claim is refuted. Easily refuted.
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Here are 3 reasons black teenage unemployment is NOT at a historic high and minimum wage isn't to blame: 1) It was higher before the Civil Rights Movement. So how is it historic? 2) A propaganda news source told you it was true. Therefore it's false. 3) If minimum wage were to blame, black unemployment would have piqued with minimum wage being at its highest (adjusted for inflation) between 1968 and 1984. So why didn't it? Again, not historic. You see, minimum wage in 1968 was a whopping $10.34 in today's dollars. It wasn't until 1984 that it dipped to around $7.34 in today's money. If we assume minimum wage is to blame for teenage unemployment among blacks, we must also assume it was high between 1968 and 1984. But it's historically high now, you say? Really? So tell me. How is minimum wage to blame again? Because the evidence doesn't support that hypothesis.
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Again, the Department of Labor supports my views. I am correct once again. www.dol.gov/featured/minimum-wage/chart1 It is rational to conclude from these stats that if high minimum wage were a factor in unemployment among black teens that unemployment among black teens would have piqued between 1968 and 1984. You can't deny that reasoning.
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Or at the very least, between 1968 and 1970. How is minimum wage even a factor in black teen unemployment?
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So yes. We NEED the minimum wage. Maybe we don't need to increase it to over $10.00 an hour like it was in 1968 dollars, but we NEED it to avoid a Great Depression.
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Brian Mcmahon Oh, sure. When you believe the department of labor backs you up, they're right. When their stats (sort of) back up my claims or I use their stats to make a case, they are wrong. People believe what they want more than they believe facts because of confirmation bias. Facts and figures are ignored by people who suffer from confirmation bias. Belief is more important than facts to most people. Do you have a degree in economics? I don't. But I did take a macroeconomics course in college. Are you are expert in the economic field? Just remember, poverty has killed more people than the minimum wage.
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That's what is cool about robots. A robot would analyze facts but wouldn't suffer confirmation bias and let emotion cloud judgment because it wouldn't have any feelings.
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