Comments by "" (@AlonzoHarris235) on "Chris At Speakers Corner" channel.

  1. Your video is a misrepresentation. Did he claim to light fire on two candles?🥴 Christians are cheering for your complete misrepresentation and strawman. That’s why the churches are empty. Always trying to twist what people say. Two candles that come TOGETHER have a bigger flame together. There is also more energy. The trinity is three gods.
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  2.  @Nochiya  You are just making assertions. You are not substantiating your claims. You don’t even know who these people are. You claim they are inspired by God. You don’t even know 1% of their lives. The Quran doesn’t confirm your bible. You are only trying this diversion because you can’t prove that your bible goes back to Jesus. You haven’t even defined what the gospel is. You have not given a methodology to verify if this ‘gospel’ goes back to Jesus. You are only making assertions. The Quran is clear. The definition of the Injeel is the revelation given to Jesus. You try to twist this with a definition that doesn’t exist in the Quran. You are trying to play these games because you can’t prove your bible. Do you believe the Quran is inspired by Satan?
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  3.  @johnscott7937  What is the definition of sin?
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  4. Chris believes in three gods.
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  5. Chris believes in three gods.
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  6. Why is it painful? Do you have an argument against it? What is your argument against his solid argument?
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  7. Chris believes in three gods.
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  8.  @Bertrum123  You need to check your eyes. The videos are not lying. Bob has been involved in four attacks on people in videos. You simply want to deny these videos. You will defend the crimes of Christians at any costs. The teacher of Chris is the violent Bob.
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  9. What is the definition of sin? If Jesus is sinless. This means he is creation. God can’t be a sinner or sinless.
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  10.  @Huntingdonn  Stay on topic? Christians can never stay on topic. They always resort to emotions and avoid logical discussions on the foundation.
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  11.  @AbdEl-Rahman555  He is a troll. He believes his god became a baby. He is trying to make fun about others with his own made up interpretations that nobody holds to.
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  12. Chris believes in three gods.
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  13. Chris believes in three gods.
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  14. Chris believes in three gods.
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  15.  @tenshiman1490  The Hadith is not authentic. Are you so desperate? Trying to impose what we should accept as authentic sayings. That’s like me imposing apocrypha on you. You took this claim blindly from Christian websites and channels. I gave you the reason why it’s not authentic. This narration has four Hadith. Three of them don’t mention a goat eating pages. They are stronger in chain. That’s how we know this Hadith is weak. Do you problems with understanding. The same Hadith from Aicha is narrated by three other persons. They don’t mention a goat eating verses. That’s how we know that Aicha didn’t say this. The three others have stronger chains and narrate the same thing. This weak chain has different and additional wording. That’s why are sources are preserved. You don’t have this authentication methodology. If two gospels say two different things of the same report. You accept both of them.
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  16.  @I-Am-He  You don’t even understand basic logic. Your god is a logical contradiction. Do you know what that means? Logical contradictions don’t exist or have the possibility to exist. Your god doesn’t exist. You still don’t get it.🤣
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  17.  @inquisitivemind007  How does that disprove preservation?🤓 How do two different sounds of the same letters disprove preservation?🤓
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  18. The trinity is three gods.
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  19.  @travisdempster4693  You have ignored my argument. You haven’t engaged with the logical contradiction. You even contradicted yourself. You switched from identity to predication. You can’t even make up your mind. That’s why you resort to personal attacks to try to avoid the clear logical problem. The trinity is three selves. Three selves are three gods.
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  20. Chris believes in three gods.
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  21. Chris believes in three gods.
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  22.  @John_Six_Twenty-Nine  It’s a metaphysical property. Just like your god hears. Does he have ears? What is the meaning of hearing? That includes vibrations through air. You are simply inconsistent. You do affirm physical shins for the second person in the trinity. You are only mocking your own god. Why should attributes posses aseity?🥴🤣 What kind of nonsensical question is that? There is a counterfactual dependency. One can’t exist without the other and vice versa.
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  23.  @sura_65.4  That’s a fallacious question. Both are approved by the prophet. Two different words or pronunciation doesn’t disprove preservation. The problem with the bible is that Christians claim it’s one written text. If we find multiple different texts. We have disproven your argument.🫠
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  24. He has lost every debate. He believes in three gods.
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  25. Chris believes in three gods.
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  26.  @CaptainChristianZ1818  You can’t answer my question. You affirm that the father, son and spirit are all FULLY god. Are they one self or three selves? I’m critiquing your real position. I’m not like you. I’m not critiquing my own strawman like you do.
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  27.  @rosenmel  That’s not my objection. I never claimed that your god can’t refer to himself in the plural. I have an objection that you claim that your god is three persons in one being.
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  28. The trinity is three gods.
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  29.  @gazirehman9421  There is no dilemma. It’s a logical contradiction. Christians claim that Jesus is fully god and fully man. They also claim that Jesus only has a human nature but lacks human personhood. You can’t be fully human if you lack fully human personhood. The doctrines in Christianity are logical contradictions.
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  30. Your videos are painful. You can’t respond to his videos. You don’t even have knowledge to even respond to his videos.
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  31.  @cocomelon4133  You are crying. You can’t respond to logical arguments. What do you do? Trying to misrepresent the argument of the opponent to avoid dealing with the argument.
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  32.  @JoanneArc-or9sr  Your mangod cried on the cross.
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  33.  @chineduibeh7363  That doesn’t follow. Time an attribute of god. God can do or not do things. Your god can’t have successive acts. You don’t even know what these terminologies mean. If you are eternal. It doesn’t follow you are timeless.🥴 That’s just your metaphysical false presupposition. Time is change in your doctrine or divine simplicity. Your doctrine denies change but claims change at the same time. That’s why your doctrine is a logical contradiction. You can’t even define time. Is time before and after? Are the words before and after a time indication?
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  34.  @chineduibeh7363  Is the act of creating the angels identical to the act of creating the universe? Yes or no?
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  35. Chris believes in three gods.
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  36.  @stargategoku  Yahweh is the Egyptian moongod. YahReah is moon in Hebrew. Yahweh is from the Egyptian and Canaanite god Yah. He is also called YahRikh. The city Yericho is named after the moongod YahRikh. There is no moongod Lah. The moongod is Yah of Yahweh.
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  37.  @ImCarolB  Hijab is right. Two candles that come Together have a bigger fire. If they light up another candle. They are not each fully the cause. Your analogy completely fails. That’s why you follow this empty head Chris.
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  38. Chris believes in three gods.
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  39. Chris believes in three gods.
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  40. Chris believes in three gods.
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  41. Bob is the most violent person in the park. He physically attacked people four times on camera. He even tried to lynch a person with fellow Christians.
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  42.  @DevotedSign  Why do you believe in three gods?
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  43.  @theonejesusloved7379  How does that follow?🥴
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  44.  @HiddenRepository  Hassamo Shamoun ran away. Just like he ran away from Daniel after they purchased flight tickets for Shamoun.
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  45. Avery believes in three gods.
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  46.  @Sem77363  Sam is running. He can come to the stream of Hamza. Hassamo wants to debate them. He can go to his stream tonight. It’s not that hard. Hassamo has a big mouth. He folds everytime when he needs to back up his big mouth. Just like he ran away like a chicken from Uthman in Balboa park.
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  47.  @reegorotten9488  Hassamo abused his wife. He stole money from his children. It’s all in the legal reports.
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  48. Chris believes in three gods.
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  49. Chris believes in three gods.
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  50. You copied this out of context text from non academic garbage websites. As suturing confirmed the Quran. He is talking about the abrogated verses. They are also Quran but not applicable anymore. Keep trying to twist the views of people for your Paulien ideology.
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  51. Chris believes in three gods. All knowledgeable Christians lost to Muslims. That’s why you resort to these kind of low level videos. You can’t explain that God became a baby and needed his diapers to be changed.
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  52. You are misrepresenting him. You have not formulated his argument. You are never dealing with the argument and points. Always trying to invent arguments that are not made. His argument is not in the description of your video.
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  53.  @sura_65.4  All four points are made up by you. Christians can only lie and make stuff up. Just like your buddy Chris is trying to do.
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  54.  @theelite5580  In which minute did Jake made this argument?🤥🤥 There is a reason why Chris is not playing the video of Jake. It’s a typical tactic of Christians who can’t respond to the argument any try to misrepresent their opponent to their audience.
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  55.  @albertraj7398  What is this law? It’s the law from god to creation. It’s a law for creation. Is your god under his own law to creation?🥴 If you claim that Jesus is sinless. You are only confessing that he is a creation. You believe Satan is a fallen Angel. Is Gabriel a sinner in your religion? Is he also god for not sinning?
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  56.  @Huntingdonn  Is the Angel Gabriel sinless?
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  57.  @albertraj7398  Why did he eat? Is eating a desire?
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  58.  @albertraj7398  Is Gabriel sinless?
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  59.  @johnscott7937  Racism is not a sin?🥴🤣
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  60.  @solascriptura1536  She had to beg him. He only healed her after she would submit to a dog.
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  61.  @solascriptura1536  He called her a dog. He called gentiles inferior based on ethnicity. Is that a sin or not?🤥
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  62. My gods has two RIGHT hands. Your God has two FALSE hands. Right is not a direction.
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  63.  @ChaddyRock  Your god has a real physical behind. You believe that.
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  64.  @ChaddyRock  Your god can become satan? It’s not a problem for your god.🥴🤣
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  65.  @jooo7011  Right is not direction. Do you bekend your god has a right hand (direction)? Your god has a right hand. You don’t interpret that as direction. You want to impose right on Muslims as direction.🥴🤣 It shows your double standards. The word is yamin. It’s the same word as in Hebrew. It’s derived from Amin or amen. God having two right hands simply means that god is all powerful. Humans have only one dominant hand. God is all dominant. Christians can’t deal with real theological positions. You believe your god has two physical hands. I don’t make that up. That’s your real belief and theological position. You are attacking yourself.🫠
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  66.  @solascriptura1536  Yahweh is tripersonal? Is Jesus Yahweh? Is Jesus tripersonal? You are wasting your time with your deflections. Your bible says that the oneness of god is the most important commandment. How is your trinity one god?🫠
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  67.  @solascriptura1536  I don’t care about your question. You can read a Jewish scholar Firestone for your question. Don’t pretend we don’t have answers. You have no answers for your theological position of the trinity. Is Jesus tripersonal? Is Yahweh tripersonal?
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  68.  @solascriptura1536  Your mangod is called an Abdul in your bible.
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  69.  @solascriptura1536  I gave you a reference. It’s not my problem you don’t want to read. We have explanations. You don’t have an explanation for your three gods. That’s why you try to run away from real theology and want to keep people busy with irrelevant topics. You believe in three gods. You can’t show me how there is only one god in the trinity.
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  70.  @aleksakovacevic3350  Your mangod is called an Abdul.
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  71.  @solascriptura1536  Is Jesus the triune god? Or is he another god? How many gods?
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  72. They are exposing themselves.
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  73. Who is Luxenberg? Is that the anonymous person who makes non academic claims?🥴🤣
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  74.  @sura_65.4  They spoke a hybrid language in the Arabian peninsula?🥴🤣 That’s the claim of Luxenberg.🥴🤣
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  75.  @You.are.boring.me.now2024  That’s always the excuse. Why is Chris walking in speakers corner?🤥 I don’t think Luxenberg exists. I think it’s a political movement who is behind these non academic claims. They are ashamed of their claims. They would never dare to make these claims under their real identity. They will be qualified as frauds in the academic world.
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  76.  @tinat1985  Is your mangod called a stone in the bible?😳
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  77.  @ryanparris1021  Is Jesus the trinity?
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  78.  @ryanparris1021  Is Jesus the triune god?
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  79.  @thedude9024  I can start it. I will have hundreds of thousands subscriptions in no time. I’m not interested in that.
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  80.  @tinat1985  Allah is never called a stone. Your god is called a stone and rock more than 30 times. After which Stone is your god named? Is that stone a pagan object?🫠
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  81.  @tinat1985  Your god is a stone. Our god is never named or identified as a stone. Your good is identified as a stone in your bible.
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  82.  @tinat1985  Yahweh is the Egyptian moongod.
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  83. Christianity has already been debunked by atheists. You can’t even beat atheists.
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  84.  @cartoonmo5976  You can’t even formulate a logical argument. You are not educated. You are like Chris.
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  85.  @cartoonmo5976  You can’t even formulate a logical argument. Your claims and arguments are not academic. Don’t waste my time with low level waffling. I can refute Christianity with academic arguments and sources.
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  86.  @cartoonmo5976  Christianity has already been defeated. Christianity leads to atheism.
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  87.  @cartoonmo5976  Christianity leads to atheism. You are also an atheist. Modern Christians have nothing in common with all historical Christians. That’s why atheism originated in the Christian west. There are no Christians left. Christianity is a religion of changes and updates. These updates will finally lead to atheism. The west is evidence of that.
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  88. Which bible are you talking about?
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  89.  @123dsj123  This is nonsense. Both matches are not fully the cause. Your analogy completely fails. Two matches have together more energy and are not each fully the cause. Hijab is right.
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  90.  @FisherOfMenParakletos  The trinity is three gods.
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  91.  @bhaveaniceday5392  Your comment has no substance.
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  92.  @123dsj123  You haven’t watched the debate. Both matches can’t be fully responsible for the flame. That was the argument of Hijab. It’s typical of a Christian to cut that out. Hijab is right. The flames are not each fully the cause of the flame. Both flames are bigger than one flame. This analogy only proves partialism. Your analogy is a heresy. Hijab is right.
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  93.  @QueenQaffir  Is Jesus the triune god?
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  94.  @QueenQaffir  Is Jesus the triune god? Yes or not?
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  95.  @stephenadelakun  The experiment is a complete misrepresentation of the logical objection. Two matches are not fully the cause. Your analogy is the heresy of partialism.
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  96.  @rockzalt  The two powers of heaven is the trinity?🥴🤣
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  97.  @ianclose123  I don’t see you giving this ‘advice’ to Christians.🤥🤥
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  98.  @rockzalt  Heiser doesn’t even understand the trinity. He thinks logos theology is the trinity.🥴 Heiser tries to advocate for two stage theology. Two stage logos theology is not the trinity. Heiser doesn’t even have a good understanding of the triniterian teachings of the fourth century. He is only ‘proving’ Arianism in the first centuries.
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  99.  @rockzalt  If someone claims that an angel is god or divine. That doesn’t mean they believe the angel is divine and god in the same sense as the Father. If trinitarians read that someone takes someone other than the father divine. You assume and presuppose that they believed that they were co equal and co eternal. This is all based on your fourth century theology. You are doing the same thing. You are trying to impose your non existent interpretations on others.
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  100.  @AndrewRobertson-v5i  You are a spoiled person. What would you advice Christians in the desert should do? There is no water and paper. What is your Christian solution for hygiene in the desert with no water? You are only proving that Christianity has no solutions for society. It’s all about cheap emotions.
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  101. The trinity is three gods.
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  102. Avery is dishonest. Every objective person will have to admit that.
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  103.  @timothyhilditch  Is the trinity one self or three selves?
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  104.  @rob6354  There is a relationship? Is there a relationship between one self or three selves in the trinity? You haven’t answered? Is it self relation? Or is it three selves relation?
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  105.  @scottiecurrie7927  Is one being one self or three selves?
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  106.  @MrLifeline01  It’s not a Muslim objection. It’s a logical objection. This objection is made by everyone except trinitarians. The council of Nicea and Constantinople was immediately attacked for polytheism. These were not Muslims. Don’t pretend this is a Muslim argument. It’s a valid logical argument and objection against your trinity. You get emotional because there is no coherent answer for the logical problem of the trinity.
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  107.  @raytothet7665  I can give you sources of scholars. They do take this serious. That’s why Christian analytical philosophers are unsuccessfully still trying to solve this problem. That’s why Christians are still writing hundreds of books to try to respond to this problem. If it was clear and logical. It would be case closed. The case is still open after more than 1500 years after the council of Nicea. It’s a valid academic objection.
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  108.  @scottiecurrie7927  The trinity is three persons. Is the trinity one self or three selves? Jesus claims to be a self in the bible. ‘I by mySELF can do nothing.’ He is claiming to be a distinct self from the father. Is it fair to say that there are three selves in the trinity?
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  109.  @raytothet7665  Why do you want all their names?
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  110.  @scottiecurrie7927  I’m not talking about the part of will. I’m talking about the word ‘mySELF’. Is he claiming to be same self or a distinct self in this verse?
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  111.  @rob6354  What’s the difference between three gods. Three gods have a relation. If the trinity is three selves. Hindus can make the same ‘argument’. It’s not even a logical argument. It’s just a appeal to emotions because love and relation sounds nice. You haven’t explained why the trinity is necessary. Do you know what necessary means? It can’t be otherwise. Why three persons and not 100 persons? You can make the same fallacious ‘argument’ for 100 persons.
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  112. Godlogic believes in three gods. He is refuting himself.
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  113.  @giuseppesurdo9616  Who is telling this? Logic says this. Three selves are three gods. Everyone views the trinity as three gods except trinitarians like you who reject logic.
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  114.  @brawndothethirstmutilator9848  You have no clue. That’s why you have a compiled book with contradicting stories.
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  115. The trinity is three gods.
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  116. You are getting paid. You have the same donators as Tommy Robinson. This video is simply a cheap propaganda video. Trying to frame violent racist actions as ‘concerns’. This is your Christian value. You are paid by the same movement as Tommy Robinson.
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  117.  @ProfYaffle  He didn’t make arguments. He was just asserting things. Christians can’t make logical arguments. They always resort to cheap emotions and throw their tradition and bible under the bus. You don’t even care. Christians don’t have a problem with throwing 99% of Christians in history under the bus. We are not surprised in your vile attacks against Muslims. You don’t even respect your own forefathers.
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  118.  @toomanymarys7355  Your own scholars say that your scriptures are corrupted. Your own churchfathers even say this z🥴🤣
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  119. Yahweh is the Egyptian moongod. Yah means moon.
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  120. @ThePrimusCrusader This is not the fallacy of equivocation. Yericho is named after the Canaanite moongod YahRikh. Moon is YahReah in Hebrew. There is no moongod Allah or Lah. Christians have to make things up because they can’t defend their religion. Yah is really the Egyptian and Canaanite moongod. Halle lu YAH.
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  121.  @oneandtruth  Chris believes in three gods.
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  122.  @markxivlxii1390  Which bible?
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  123.  @markxivlxii1390  This is false. Your translations all come from different manuscript traditions. Why does King James have 1 John 5:7? Why is that not in other ‘translations’?
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  124.  @tenshiman1490  There is only one Quran. There are hundreds of bibles.
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  125.  @tenshiman1490  These are not Qurans. The Quran includes the various readings. Your definition doesn’t exist. Nobody ever claimed the Quran is one reading. Christians claim the bible is one written text. If we show then hundreds of different texts. They start crying and acting like you.
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  126.  @tenshiman1490  Why are the readings different? Because the prophet allowed it by the command of god. What has been authorised by god through the prophet is the Quran. It is your believe. You claim that Mark, Matthew, Luke, John and others have written down one text. You claim that each of these persons hand written one book with one text. If we demonstrate multiple texts. You start crying. The authors have not authorised all these variations and differences. They have written down one text is your belief. You try to project your problems onto us. Because you can’t defend your position. We don’t claim the Quran is text. The Quran is recitation from God to the prophet through the angel. It has been passed down orally. You claim your bible is one written text. If we show you multiple texts. You start crying.
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  127.  @tenshiman1490  The Hadith of the goat is not authentic. We have four different Hadith of the same narration. Three of them don’t mention a goat. That’s why the Hadith of the goat is not authentic. Even if it was authentic for the sake of argument. I’m just entertaining your ‘argument’. Your conclusion still doesn’t follow. How do they know the verses that the goat supposedly eat?🥴 The weak Hadith even mentions the content.
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  128.  @tenshiman1490  I have already answered you. It’s not authentic. You can look up in any scholarly source. If you continue to impose things on us. I will start using the apocrypha against you. If you try to impose inauthentic things on us. I will do the same thing. Your claims come from non academic garbage websites. All your claims come from troll channels and websites. You can never cite scholarship. That’s why you are a failed group and movement.
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  129.  @tenshiman1490  Who graded it hasan? Why has he graded it as hasan? Answer these questions first before you ask me. I don’t work for you. How are you going to refute Islam of you don’t even know what those words mean and why and how they grade them.
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  130.  @tenshiman1490  You ignored my question. Who graded it as hasan. Can you tell me why he graded it as hasan. I don’t want your made up interpretations trying to misrepresent people. My questions are very easy. If you claim that Muslims accept the goat eating the pages Hadith. Show me a source.
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  131.  @tenshiman1490  That’s just a reference. Where is the grade? Who graded it? Why did he make that grade? You made a claim. You have not substantiated your claim.
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  132.  @tenshiman1490  You are making the claim. You refuse to prove your position and claim. You can’t prove your position and claim. That’s why you want me to do the work for you. You don’t even understand the topic. Because you have no answers. You start accusing others of lying. It shows how insincere you are. You are literally projecting. You told me it’s graded as hasan. You also told me that it is therefore accepted. You haven’t given me the name of the person that graded it. You haven’t shown who accepts the goat eating the pages. All you have done is trying to make your own speculation and interpretation the final authority. You haven’t show me why this person had made the grade. You haven’t shown me anything. All you have done is claiming that it’s graded as hasan. Therefore it’s accepted. You can’t prove this. I have already proven the opposite. The same narration is found in SAHIH Muslim Hadith 1452. Sahih Muslim is called Sahih. It has the same report without a goat eating pages. It’s also narrated by imam Malik in Kitaab Ar Rida Hadith number 17. There is also no goat eating pages mentioned from the same report. You need this Hadith to be authentic. That’s how desperate you are. You can’t formulate arguments based on real positions. You do this because your bible is problematic. You can’t defend it. You have refused to answer every question. You ducked them all.
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  133. That’s not his argument. His argument is irrelevant if these ‘corrections’ are true or not.
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  134.  @adamstewart9052  He doesn’t use this argument. That’s why Chris is not playing the video of Jake but trying to make people believe what he said. It’s a typical Christian tactic. In which minute of the video did Jake make this argument? In which minute in the video of Jake.🤥🤥
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  135.  bluebible1199  Chris has not responded to the argument.
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  136. @ThePrimusCrusader The trinity is three gods.
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  137.  @theastronomer5800  Are you a logical thinker? If this is do obvious and logical. How come no Christian pointed this out to the prophet? How come no Christian in history ever made this accusation and ‘argument’? It’s the easiest argument to make. ‘You are telling that both the Quran and Bible are true. How is that possible.’ Nobody ever said this or made this accusation. You claim to be a logical thinker. How is this possible if you claim that the prophet preached that all scriptures are true and correct? Only modern Christians have a ‘brain’? How come this claim is only made by modern Christians? You claim to be a logical thinker. What is the logical explanation?
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  138.  @adamstewart9052  You have not even proven your ‘argument’. Your whole ‘argument’ relies on the false presupposition that Christians and Jews always used the same scriptures. That’s completely false from the manuscripts.
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  139. He is clueless. He just makes silly videos for his sheep followers. They both aren’t EACH FULLY the cause for the flame. This went over his head. The video is a complete misrepresentation. That’s why the churches are empty
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  140.  @Yeoman530  Your analogy is a heresy. Two matches are not fully the cause in your example. The light (cause) is also bigger than one match. It’s not our problem that your analogy completely fails. You don’t respond to a refutation by repeating your refuted analogy. Do you have an argument against the refutation of Hijab?
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  141.  @marko9912  The flesh died? WHO came down to die?
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  142.  @marko9912  WHO came down to die? The flesh came down to die?
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  143. He is funded by Zionists. They are all from the same group. Bob the builder is preaching ‘Judeo Christianity’.
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  144.  @sura_65.4  The trinity is three gods.
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  145.  @MU-we8hz  I have never debated Sam. Sam wouldn’t stand a chance in a debate. He believes in three gods.🫠
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  146.  @FortheloveofGod07  Sam believes in three gods. He can’t defend the trinity. He uses car parts as an analogy for the trinity. 🥴🤣
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  147.  @FortheloveofGod07  You believe the second person in the trinity has a physical behind.🤣
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  148.  @I-Am-He  You are right. The trinity is a logical contradiction.
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  149.  @PUROROCK327  You don’t even value arguments. If I disprove your trinity. You will avoid dealing with the logical contradiction.
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  150.  @inquisitivemind007  Tabari is not rejecting the other reading.🫠 He is rejecting the translation of the other reading. He affirms the reading. He believes a different sound of a letter shouldn’t result in a different translation. Tabari accepts different readings. If two people in the English language pronounce the same letters. The other person will take it as another word while it’s the same word. It’s also a fallacy that each difference in wording must be translated in different meaning. Tabari holds to this position. Different readings has nothing to do with preservation. These are two complete separate topics. Preservation is based on chains of transmission.
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  151.  @inquisitivemind007  All texts are orally. Text doesn’t speak. There is not a single Christian who pronounce words in the bible in the exact same way.
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  152.  @inquisitivemind007  Can you quote the Arabic? We can examine what Tabari says.
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  153.  @inquisitivemind007  The problem with the bible are not various readings. The problem with the bible are problems in the transmission. They don’t even have a verification method to know if someone really said something. That’s why you see complete chapters and verses added, removed. It’s Christians who claim that the bible is transmitted textually. If there are huge differences in text. We can simply say that the bible is corrupted.
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  154.  @sura_65.4  I’m an Arab. I know Arabic. You don’t even know English.
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  155.  @inquisitivemind007  What’s the logical contradiction? Christians claim there is only one god. In reality there are three gods. Three selves are three gods. The Quran is defined by what is approved by god. It doesn’t matter if god approved 10 or millions Qiraat. It’s still one Quran. The Quran is what has been approved by god. The Quran has never been defined as one reading. 🫠 Three selves are three gods.
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  156.  @lahleholivia7398  Why did he send Paul?
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  157.  @lahleholivia7398  Did you go to the trinitarian university?🥴🤣 No wonder why you can’t formulate a logical and coherent argument. 🕺🏻
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  158.  @lahleholivia7398  The second person in the trinity has a real physical reproduction part.🥴🤣
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  159.  @sura2proyect428  What is the writing of Paul?🥴🤣
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  160.  @sura2proyect428  Let’s accept that for the sake of argument. Where did Paul copy that from?🫠 Even if we accept your nonsensical claims. Paul still copied from other sources and gave it his own twist.
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  161.  @solascriptura1536  They are mentioned in the Nicean creed of three gods.
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  162.  @travisdempster4693  The trinity is a logical contradiction. Logical contradictions don’t exist or have the possibility to exist. God exists by necessity. Therefore the trinity is false. Try to engage with this robust argument. 🫠
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  163.  @CoolioMoDee  It’s by far the most successful religion. That’s why you are obsessed by it.🫠
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  164.  @mystaree  What is the definition of the Quran?🤓
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  165.  @mystaree  What’s the problem with multiplicity?🥴 I don’t think you understand the logical problem of the trinity. The logical problem of the trinity is not the multiplicity. You haven’t formulated a logical argument. Your question is based on a misunderstanding of the objection against the trinity.🫠
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  166.  @solascriptura1536  They are mentioned in the Nicean creed of three gods.
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  167.  @X4VER279  Is each side a full coin?🫠 Is each person fully god?
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  168.  @CoolioMoDee  You don’t even know your own religion. That’s the problem with Christians. They don’t even know the basics of their own religion and theology and pretend to be experts in other religions.🥴
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  169.  @maskva-u6f  Did he exist? There is billion times more historical evidence for him than for Jesus and Paul combined. I’m not even talking about the OT figures. It’s funny how Christians attack their own position.
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  170.  @CoolioMoDee  You don’t believe that. You are just trying to give yourself some confidence. Why do you think Chris is busy with his goofy videos? Because he knows a child cab refute the core doctrines of Christianity. He is upset about it because Muslims logically deconstruct your religion by your actual position and theology.
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  171.  @X4VER279  Do we have the same human essence? Are we one human being or two human beings?
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  172.  @CoolioMoDee  You are out of arguments? You are demonstrating it right now. The moment a Christian gets schooled in logic. He tries to deflect with person attacks to avoid a serious discussion at all costs. But you claim to be people of truth.🥴 I wil give you something to think about. The trinity is the true god in your religion. Is Jesus the trinity? Or is he not true god enough?🫠
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  173.  @realityofliving_life  What do you mean by direct talk?
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  174.  @mystaree  I don’t have a problem with multiplicity. Nobody is attacking the trinity for multiplicity.
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  175.  @roskobiwan  There is nothing to defend. He doesn’t even understand the subject. Let me explain. What has ahruf got to do with preservation?🥴🤣 Why is Chris using reports through chains of transmission which he rejects? He is incoherent. He uses reports from chains of transmission to argue that the chains of transmission can’t be relied on.🥴🤣
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  176.  @mystaree  What is the issue? This is the issue. 1 The Father is God 2 The Son is God 3 The Spirit is God 4 the Father is not the Son 5 the Father is not the Spirit 6 The Son is not the Spirit 7 There is only one God. This is the issue. Each person is declared to be fully God. They are not eachother. There is only one God. This is a logical contradiction.
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  177.  @roskobiwan  Chris is incoherent. I didn’t respond to the video. The video is incoherent. He refuted himself in the video. Did he present an objective methodology for preservation? The answer is no. Do you know why? Because he has to throw his bible in the bin. He thinks people are silly. He tries to bring the Quran to the level of the bible because he can’t defend the bible. Even non Muslim scholars don’t take this serious. Every objective scholar will say that the Quran is billion times better transmitted.
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  178.  @mystaree  You have such great arguments. You got me busted.🥴🤣 Let me give an analogy from your bible. There is a general rule and a specific rule. One of the commandments is not to steal in your bible. Your god commands the Israelites to steal land and property of other nations at the same time. I can claim this is a contradiction. I don’t make these terrible ‘arguments’. There is always a general rule and specific rules. The general rule is that you can’t marry polytheists. The specific rule is the exception of Jews and Christians. They are both polytheists. The exception is made for the people of the book. There is no contradiction. Just like there is no contradiction when your god command to not steal in general and gives command to steal at specific moments.
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  179.  @TheLegend2000AD  Does Jesus have a logos? Or he can’t speak? Is the logos of the Son another person in the godhead?
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  180.  @mystaree  They are people of the book. They are closer to Muslims than atheists or other religion. That’s why the exception is made. It doesn’t matter if your book is corrupted or not for the argument. You believe in your book. I’m showing similar cases from your bible which you accept. There are many cases of general rules and exception. We can’t eat pork for example. That’s the general rule. But it’s allowed if your life is at risk. Let me give another example from your bible. It’s not allowed to work on the sabbath. This is a general rule in your bible. Jesus works on the sabbath to heal people in your bible. There is an exception being made for the general rule. I can name many more. You are not consistent. If you were consistent. You would declare all these examples as contradictions. You won’t do that.
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  181.  @Redsok  There is no relevance in the questions. Let me give you an example. The relationship between Ahruf and Qiraat has nothing to do with preservation. These are completely different topics and subjects. Chris admits this. Because he affirms the ahruf. He took that knowledge from our reports based on the same CHAINS OF TRANSMISSION. Chris is not educated. He doesn’t even understand the subject. That’s why he is conflating relationships and preservation. He needs to show that his questions violates preservation. He hasn’t done that. He also assumes that the Quran can only be one recitation.🥴 Where did he get this made up criteria from? His whole video is poor. He doesn’t know how to make logical arguments.
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  182.  @roskobiwan  They don’t take him serious. Which scholar takes Chris serious?🥴
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  183.  @Clashingthanos  You should read your comment. ‘There is only ONE circle. But the THREE circles are not the same.’ There is one and three circles at the same time? Is it one circle or three circles?
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  184.  @uguroz3745  You are an ex Muslim?🤣 That makes you magically knowledgeable?🤣🥴 You try to make a logical argument. Your analogy is partialism. That’s condemned as a heresy. You don’t even understand your own religion. Muslims don’t affirm physical properties and attributes to god. You affirm real physical attributes and properties to the second person in the trinity post incarnation. I don’t have to misrepresent Christian theology to refute it. You can only misrepresent to try to refute your own strawman.
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  185.  @uguroz3745  You are speaking about ignorance. Your comments show your lack of education.
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  186.  @Clashingthanos  How many circles are there? One or three?
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  187.  @EAD1142  My script is not used by them. I’m making logical arguments against your theological position. I’m showing logical contradictions in your actual and real position. Chris is asking many questions because he can’t make logical arguments. He thinks his questions are arguments.🥴🤣 Let’s say we don’t know what the Ahruf are exactly? How does that disprove preservation?🥴 What have both got to do with eachother? What has ahruf or Qiraat got to do with preservation?🥴
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  188.  @mystaree  It does say that. The Quran literally warns against taking Jesus as God. There is a hard punishment for that. That’s association (shirk). You can only take Allah as God. Anyone that associates is a mushriq. The Quran is very explicit to only take Allah as God. It also explicitly denies the existence of other gods unlike the bible. ‘There is no god except Allah.’ (Quran) god of gods. (Bible)
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  189.  @Clashingthanos  Do we have the same human nature ? Are we one human being or two human beings ?
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  190.  @uguroz3745  You haven’t made logical arguments. You have made the most absurd claims. You believe you made an argument.🥴 But you accuse others of being ignorant. I have presented logical arguments against your real position. You have only made ‘arguments’ against your own misrepresentations than nobody holds to. This is because of your lack of education. You want me to deal with your low level nonsense copied from non academic websites? We can do that. Your first claim is the fallacy of equivocation. If the word Quran is mentioned. It can only mean the attribute of god. It can’t mean the recitation of men that will testify for you. Your claim is based on this deliberate misrepresentation. If you have to misrepresent positions to make ‘arguments’. I simply means you have no arguments. You claim to be an ex Muslim. You don’t even know what the Islamic position is.🥴
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  191.  @uguroz3745  You don’t have arguments. Do you really think you came with something new? It’s all copied claims from uneducated people like Shamoun. You want me to deal with your ‘arguments’. Your first claim is based on the fallacy of equivocation. Which muslim or Islamic theology claims that the word Quran in that Hadith refers to the attribute of God?🤓 It refers to the recitation of the person. This is an action. Your own actions will testify for you. You claim to be an ex Muslim. You don’t even know basic Islamic theology. You don’t know how to make logical arguments based on real positions. That’s why you have to misrepresent others to try to refute your own misrepresentation. That’s not a logical but illogical argument.
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  192.  @Clashingthanos  You compared circles to god. You have to be consistent. If there are no comparisons. You shouldn’t use analogies yourself.
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  193.  @uguroz3745  What’s your best argument? I want you to present your best argument. I don’t want to waste my time with your many fallacies. Present your best argument and I will respond. Let’s see how logical you are as an ‘ex Muslim’.
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  194.  @uguroz3745  You are not sincere. You are throwing hundred claims and expect me to respond to all of your silly claims. I don’t have time to respond to hundreds of claims. Can you give me your best argument. Why don’t you pick one. Just throwing claims are not arguments. It seems to me that you are scared to have a real discussion. Which one of the many silly claims do you want me to respond. Why don’t you pick one. Let’s see who is logical and who has no logic.🫠
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  195.  @uguroz3745  The verse is in the past tense. He has already fulfilled that condition. The context is immediate death. That’s what a cut of aorta means. It means that god will prevent him to even breath a single second. It doesn’t mean that he preached for more than two years and still reveals revelation.🫠 Is this your best ‘argument’?🥴🤣 The words in the Quran and Hadith are not even identical. You copied this poor claim from non academic Christian websites. This is your ‘level’.🥴 Cab you show me a medical doctor who claims you can live for two years with a cut of aorta?🤓🫵🏼
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  196.  @Redsok  I don’t have time for red herrings. He didn’t make any point. He made only unproven assertions and tries to present it as evidence. Christians can’t formulate logical arguments. They don’t even know how to make an argument.
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  197.  @travisdempster4693  I don’t assume. There are three gods by the law of identity. Are you making a logical argument against me? Do you accept logic? How many gods are there by identity? Is the Son identical to the triune God? Is the Father identical to the triune God? How can The Son and the Father be tripersonal while being one person at the same time? These are logical arguments. You can’t engage and deal with them. There is another problem. You believe The Triune God is a real entity. You have four entities that you accept to be fully god. The Father, Son, Spirit and the triune God are all fully god. Your model of the trinity results in four gods.
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  198.  @uguroz3745  Muslims don’t believe in your made up interpretations of our sources. Nobody calls your made up interpretations Islam. That’s like me calling my made up interpretations of the bible Christianity. If you follow the religion of ‘truth’. How come you lie so much? ‘Muslims SEE Mohamed equal to God.’🤥🤥 Show me which muslim says or sees that?🤥 It’s amazing how much Christians are willing to lie to try to score cheap points.🤥🤓
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  199.  @sura2proyect428  What does enter into creation mean?
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  200.  @uguroz3745  You are waffling. That’s why YouTube doesn’t show your comment. They think you are a bot. Your claims are copied from non academic websites and channels. There is no substance. It’s just low level polemics.
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  201.  @uguroz3745  Muslims don’t see anyone equal to God. Can you show me a Muslim who makes this claim? I’m glad people can read your comments. You are only proving that Christians are notorious liars who argue in bad faith. Show me from a theological source. If you claim to be a follower of the religion of ‘truth’. How come you lie so much?
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  202.  @sura2proyect428  Paul claims that Jesus is an angel in the present tense.
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  203.  @uguroz3745  Why are you ignoring my refutation? You are just repeating your refuted claim without engaging with the refutation.
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  204.  @travisdempster4693  You don’t have an answer. There is no circle argument. You are just asserting that because you have no solution and answer for the logical problem of the trinity. Logic is not circular. Your ‘argument’ is circular. You have to presuppose Christianity as a criteria of truth. I have already shown that Christianity is a square circle. A square circle doesn’t exist or has the possibility to exist. It’s a logical impossibility. It’s a logical contradiction. You keep using the word triune. You can’t even define what you consider to be triune. Is the trinity one self or three selves? This is a simple basic valid question. If you can’t answer it. You are simply using words you can’t even define or understand. This means your words are meaningless.
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  205.  @travisdempster4693  Is this your answer? There is one Yahweh? The Father, Son and Spirit are all identical to Yahweh? This is just modalism. Things that are identical to the same thing are identical to eachother. It simply follows from the law of identity.
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  206.  @travisdempster4693  I don’t have to prove anything from your scripture. The trinity is not biblical in the first place. Nobody in the bible worships a triune god or prays to a triune god. They always pray to one person. Even if it was biblical. It doesn’t change the argument. My critique is based on your theological position. The trinity results in three gods. Your model of the trinity results in modalism. All the persons are identical to the same thing. It follows from the law of identity that they are identical to eachother in your model.
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  207.  @RobertBooker-xi8cc  It’s not an assertion. We can measure that by objective standards.
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  208.  @allah_is_an_arab  Chris is contradicting himself. Nobody has responded to the presented contradiction. I have refuted his claims. Nobody can refute my refutation of his claims. You can read back. Christians don’t want to engage with refutations and questions. I’m not changing anything. I have responded to the topic. I debunked it. I’m now showing logical contradictions in your theology. That’s the most essential thing in faith. I have debunked your theological position. Christians who try to argue about preservation. They simply acknowledge that the sayings and teachings of Jesus are not preserved. Because they can’t defend it. They try to find similar things in other religions.🥴🤣 Who is deflecting.🤓 The greatest argument against Christianity are the logical contradictions in your core doctrines. There is a reason why your apologists don’t want to deal with this.🤡
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  209.  @allah_is_an_arab  You can read back. I have refuted his fallacies. Nobody has a response. That includes you. You can’t solve the logical contradictions in his claims.
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  210.  @travisdempster4693  Jesus is a Muslim in the Quran. You are clearly trying to twist verses with your made up Christian understanding. The followers of Jesus don’t believe Jesus is God. That’s very clear in the Quran. You can’t defend your religion. You are trying to make my sources confirm your religion because you can’t engage with my arguments.🫠 That’s why the churches are empty. That’s why Christianity is in a huge decline. Christianity in secular surveys include ‘heretics’ like Unitarians.🫵🏼🫠
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  211.  @travisdempster4693  You are diverting. What does the word ‘is’ mean? What does the word ‘is’ represents? Is it identity or predication? These are the only two options. Words have meanings. The bible has no dictionary. It doesn’t need to mention identical. It can be in other words like the word ‘is’. Do you understand basic language? Do you even know what language is. What do you mean by Jesus is God? He is identical to God? Which God? The triune God?
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  212.  @travisdempster4693  I didn’t make a claim from the bible. My argument is based on your theology. It’s a logical argument against your theology. If your theology is biblical or not. That’s not irrelevant. I just said that as a side note because you claimed it’s biblical. Even if we accept that false assertion. Your theology is still a logical contradiction. You are simply stating that the bible contains a contradicting theology.
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  213.  @Redsok  What is that?
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  214.  @travisdempster4693  I am a human. That’s a predication. How many human beings are we? One or two? Is there one human being on earth or billions? I asked you if it’s a statement of identity or predication. You first said identity. After finding out the implications you shifted to predication. You want from modalism to tritheism.
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  215.  @travisdempster4693  You don’t have a response. That’s why you try to attack me personally. I’m not important. Can you solve the logical contradiction of the trinity and incarnation. If a contradiction is presented. You can’t simply wave it off and pretend it doesn’t exist. It exists until you disprove it. Nobody has done that so far. Your scholars (analytical philosophers) are still writing books about it to try to solve the problem. They have all failed. You don’t see Muslims writing books for 1400 years to solve a logical contradiction based on the oneness of god. Because it’s clear and logical. Your trinity is a logical contradiction.
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  216.  @Redsok  I don’t see a link. Where?
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  217.  @allah_is_an_arab  You can read back. I have demonstrated a logical contradiction in his claims. You haven’t responded to this refutation. You simply try to ignore it and pretend that it’s refuted if you ignore it.🥴🤣 My refutation is valid until you can disprove it. I have disproven his claim by demonstrating a logical contradiction in his claim.🫠
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  218.  @allah_is_an_arab  We count attributes by identity. We also count beings by identity. That’s why you are only one human being.🤓 Jake schooled Jay. Do you believe in the transcendental ‘argument’ of Jay Dyer? Have you watched the debate? He called out your Catholic Church. He said that the western model of the trinity is modalism.🤣
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  219.  @allah_is_an_arab  Do you support Jay Dyer?🥴🤣 You are repeating the nonsense of Jay Dyer. He said something true. He said that the Catholic model of the trinity is modalism.🤣 Do you agree with him?
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  220.  @allah_is_an_arab  You haven’t responded to my refutation. You have only made false assertions without a demonstration. You are multiple human beings?🥴🤣 If we follow your rule of identity. We have to count you as multiple human beings.🥴🤣
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  221.  @allah_is_an_arab  How does that follow?🥴🤣 Logic is clearly not your field.🫠
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  222.  @allah_is_an_arab  You don’t have an answer. The logical contradiction in his claim still stands. You haven’t responded to the logical contradiction in his claim.🫠
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  223.  @allah_is_an_arab  We count attributes by identity. That’s why there are multiple attributes. We also count beings by identity. That’s why there is only one being. Are you multiple human beings?🥴🤣
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  224.  @allah_is_an_arab  You are just making assertions. You haven’t demonstrated any of your assertions. How does your conclusion follow?🤣🥴 Give the premises and conclusion. Show me in a table.🫠
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  225.  @allah_is_an_arab  This is not common sense. Nobody makes that claim. It’s not common sense. You need to demonstrate your ‘sense’. How does counting multiple attributes by identity results into multiple Quran?🤣🥴 Can you give a justification and demonstration of that? You have only made this assertion. You can’t even justify your assertions. You can’t even formulate a logical argument.🤣🥴
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  226.  @allah_is_an_arab  I have provided evidence. I gave a demonstration. You have only made assertions. I can even use your bible. Your bible doesn’t agree with you. If we accept your assertion. We should count each and every god in your bible as multiple gods for having multiple real distinct attributes and properties. Your bible doesn’t do that. Even your bible refutes your nonsense. Baal is not called multiple gods for example. Why not if this figure has multiple real distinct properties and attributes in your bible? You don’t count Zeus as multiple gods but one god. Why does everyone count in this way? Everyone counts by identity. We count attributes by identity. We count beings by identity. That’s why everyone counts one being and multiple properties. There is one being by identity. There are multiple attributes by identity. Multiple real distinct properties don’t make one self more selves by identity. This is common sense. Your assertions is not shared by anyone. You need to give a demonstration of your assertion. You also need to clarify your position. Beau Branson counts by division. Your Catholic Church doesn’t agree with that. They count by identity. This is all taken from Aquinas. I can recommend you books to read and study your own position. I don’t make random claims. I have studied the material. I can even show you how Aquinas uses identity. I can show you the logical problems in his position. Are you Catholic? Do you count by identity (Catholic) or division (Beau Branson)?
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  227. Chris believes in three gods.
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  228.  @sura_65.4  Chris believes in three gods.🥴🤣
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  229.  @sura_65.4  I’m not upset. Chris believes in three gods. Christ is upset. Because he knows his bible is problematic.😆
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  230.  @maikilreategui1271  I’m a biblical scholar.
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  231.  @Sam-Bob-Glogic  Do you talk to someone’s chest?🤓
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  232.  @sura_65.4  He schooled himself. He just proved that your bible is corrupted.
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  233.  @sura_65.4  Is Chris a Christian? Which methodology does he use?🤓 Off course Christianity is relevant. I’m talking to Christians. Christians who are so ashamed of their bible. They want to make the Quran identical to the major and huge problems of the bible. It only proves that Christians have thrown the towel on their bible.🥴🤣
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  234.  @aureum7479  With lies Christianity still dies.
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  235.  @lshed28  If Satan knows the bible. How come he helped to save you by trying to take out the mangod?😳
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  236. You are an actor. Your story contains contradictions.
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  237. These Christians believe in three gods.
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  238.  @IvanSensei88  Is human sacrifice paganism? Yes or no?
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  239. What is the meaning of son? Is it literal, metaphorical or by adoption?
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  240.  @Leo-yx7rk  What are the double meanings? Why is the second person called The Son? Why is the third person not a Son?
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  241.  @YeshuaAkbar7  How do you know Jesus said that?
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  242. The trinity is three gods.
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  243. Is Jesus the triune God?🥴🤣
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  244. @KZNGUY23 You believe the triune God is the true God. You also claim that Jesus is the same true God. Is Jesus the triune God?
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  245. @KZNGUY23 I condemn your God in numbers 31:18. Do you condemn numbers 31:18?
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  246.  @toomanymarys7355  That’s such a great ‘argument’. You are such an ‘intellect’.🥴🤣
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  247.  @toomanymarys7355  This is your ‘argument’. 1 the Quran is inspired by Satan. 2 the Quran advises Christians to judge by the bible. What is the conclusion of your ‘argument’? You are claiming that Satan advises Christians to follow the bible.🥴🤣
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  248.  @John_Six_Twenty-Nine  You don’t have to be a Muslim to conclude that your bible doesn’t go back to the prophets.🫠 It’s a fact.🫠
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  249.  @John_Six_Twenty-Nine  You don’t even know who God is.🥴🤣 Your god is a logical contradiction. Logical contradictions are by definition false.
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  250.  @John_Six_Twenty-Nine  The timeless god came in time.🥴 The second person in the trinity is limited and unlimited at the same time. The true god is the triune god. Jesus is the true god. He is not the triune god.🥴 I can go on and on. Logical contradiction after logical contradiction.
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  251.  @John_Six_Twenty-Nine  We don’t believe the Quran is eternal. We also don’t believe in a frozen god who can’t speak and have successive acts. You believe in a timeless god. You don’t believe god can do successive acts. You believe god is one act. You will do reinterpretation of verses that your god created the universe in six days. You will say that he didn’t really create the universe in six days. What or who is the true God? The true god God is the triune God? Is the Father the triune god? Or is he another god? Is he identical to the triune God?
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  252.  @John_Six_Twenty-Nine  You are confused. Do you know why you are confused. Because you don’t even know your own position. I don’t hold to your position of time. Time is change. Do you know what change means? There is a point where god creates. There is a before and after. That’s change. You god can’t have more acts. Your god is one eternal act. You don’t believe your god has acts that have a beginning in time. You only believe these are effects and not acts. Unless you believe the effect is identical to the act? That would make the universe eternal. I don’t think you would hold to that position. What do you even mean enter into creation?🥴 what does that even mean? God can interact with creation. Your god can’t interact with creation. Your god is not really related to creation. This is the absurd position of western Christianity. The Eastern Orthodox don’t hold to this position.
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  253.  @John_Six_Twenty-Nine  The Eastern Orthodox don’t believe in a timeless god. They believe god can have successive acts. You believe your god is only one act. That’s his actuality. You believe in a frozen god who can’t do things. You don’t believe your god really spoke to prophets on certain days. That’s successive acts.
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  254.  @susanlaycock7078  You affirm three persons to be fully god. Muslims only affirm that Allah is God. You believe in three gods. You are polytheists.
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  255.  @YouTubeMaster-yt22  Why do you believe in three gods?
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  256.  @shroomitechromee  Your mangod is called a stone in your bible. You believe Jesus is God. The biblical Jesus is named after the anointed bethel stone of Jacob in the OT. Your god is a stone. Even Yahweh is called a Rock in the bible. You affirm that a stone is god. Muslims don’t affirm any stone is god. Jesus and Yahweh are stones in your bible.🥴🤣
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  257.  @YouTubeMaster-yt22  You believe in one god? Is that God one self or three selves? One mind or three minds?
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  258.  @YouTubeMaster-yt22  Is the heat fully sun?
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  259.  @YouTubeMaster-yt22  Is the heat fully sun? Is each person fully god?
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  260.  @Redsok  The readings have chains that go through both of them. That refutes your claim. If you accept chains of transmission. Don’t cherry pick. The Qiraat have chains that go through both of them.
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  261.  @Redsok  Ibn Masud is in the chain of the Qiraat. That refutes your claim. Either you accept chains or you don’t accept chains. If you don’t accept chains. Don’t throw quotes based on chains. This is the problem with people like you. Before you even try to make claims. Present a methodology to know what somebody said. If you accept chains. You have refuted your own claim. Because Ibn Masud is in the chains of four Qiraat that was transmitted through him.
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  262.  @thelimatheou  Your apologists are not on his level.
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  263. Why is the Spirit not called Son? Why is only the second person called Son?🫠
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  264.  @tymon1928  Both hands are RIGHT. Your god has two FALSE hands. Right is not a direction. The Arabic and Hebrew word is Yamin. It’s from the same root as Amin. Humans have one dominant hand. God has two RIGHT hands. It means he is all powerful unlike creation. How many hands has your god? How many ears does he have? Can your god hear? What is the meaning of hearing?
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  265. Chris believes in three gods.
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  266.  @John_Six_Twenty-Nine  It’s not a fallacy. Three selves are three gods. It’s completely logical to say that the trinity is three gods. It’s illogical to claim that the trinity is one god. You can’t prove or demonstrate that. You will only assert it and try to call it a day. You will refuse to engage with the argument, demonstration and evidence that the trinity is three gods.
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  267.  @You.are.boring.me.now2024  Chris has completely ignored the video of Farid. He hasn’t even engaged with the arguments. He is repeating his refuted claims. If the theory of Chris is true. How come modern Christians are the first one to make this argument and accusation?🤓 Historical Christians didn’t have a brain? Or the interpretation of modern Christians is nonsensical? Which one is it?
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  268.  @tpoli5447  The Quran corrects the bible. The claim that the author of the Quran doesn’t know the scriptures of Christians and Jews is ridiculous. It corrects details.
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  269. Do you mean Avery? Talking over Mansur and demand that Mansur talks to him.🤨🤥
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  270. They are Christians. They believe in three gods.
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  271. He didn’t claim that. Christians love to strawman people for Paul.
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  272.  @toddbeamer6131  How do you know about Uthman? Who told you? Do you rely on chains of transmission? The same chains of transmission you reject for the Quran.🤥🤥
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  273.  @inquisitivemind007  You are cherry picking. You accept the chains of transmission for the reports about Uthman. The chains of transmission from our sources. But you reject the chains of transmission for the Quran from our sources. You are just cherry picking and inconsistent. Because you can’t even present a methodology for preservation. If your methodology is textual transmission. You shouldn’t use chains of transmission at all. You shouldn’t even mention uthman. Before you even try to challenge preservation. Why don’t you present a methodology first instead of cherry picking from our sources. Discussing what the ahruf are. That has nothing to do with preservation. Preservation is based on chains of transmission. Chris is waffling. He is also twisting the words of Soliman.
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  274.  @inquisitivemind007  Chris is not a man. He is a waffler. Soliman claims in this video that the prophet abrogated it. Chris claims that Soliman claims that the companions abrogated it. He claims this immediately after the video where Soliman mentions the prophet and not the companions. He is even twisting in this video. Your whole movement relies on twisting, misrepresenting and arguing in bad faith. Chris doesn’t even have a methodology for preservation to try to refute preservation. You don’t have it either. How can you talk about preservation if you don’t even have a methodology for preservation? Disagreement what the ahruf are is not evidence that something is not preserved. This is a complete fallacy. How did Chris demonstrate that? You only have assertions and claims without any methodology to measure.
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  275.  @inquisitivemind007  Why don’t you contact him? Is Chris your expert?🥴🤣 He can’t even formulate a logical argument. 1 ‘Muslims disagree on the ahruf.’ 2 ‘therefore the Quran is not preserved.’ This is basically your argument. It’s embarrassing.
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  276. Avery believes in three gods.
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  277.  @IvanSensei88  Is your Jesus the triune God?
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  278.  @scottiecurrie7927  I understand your theology. It’s a logical contradiction.
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  279.  @collybever  Is Jesus the triune God?
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  280.  @Daemon1356  Is the trinity one self or three selves?
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  281.  @TestifyApologetics  TestifyApologetics believes in three gods.
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  282.  @Glory_be_to_Christ  He believes in three gods.
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  283.  @TigistTakeleAdmasu  If the gospels are real. Why do you need Paul.?🥴🤣
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  284.  @TigistTakeleAdmasu  Paul is a pagan.
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  285.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  Does your bible explain everything? Is your bible clear?🥴🤣 It can’t be clear according to you. Because you rely on interpretations of peopleZ
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  286.  @Akhgy  Is your bible clear? You rely on scholars for interpretation of the bible. The translation of the bible is a tafsir. This means your bible can’t be clear according to your absurd criteria for clear.🥴🤣
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  287.  @cartoonmo5976  The kings James bible is an interpretation.🥴🤣 It can’t be clear. Because you rely on their interpretation.🥴🤣
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  288.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  You can’t access the bible without interpretations of scholars. Your translations are interpretations of Christian scholars. Your bible is not clear according to your own criteria of clarity.🥴🤣
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  289.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  That’s a circular argument. ‘It’s based on the bible because my scholar is right.’ Always shifting the goalpost. Your first argument was that it can only be clear without scholars. Now you are saying that it can be clear with scholars.🥴🤣
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  290.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  How can you learn on your own? Learning comes from sharing knowledge from scholars.🥴🤣 You don’t even know what knowledge is.
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  291.  @cartoonmo5976  Translations are interpretations. Choices are made by individuals. How they think it should be translated and what is means. You rely on choices of scholars.
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  292.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  Your bible is not clear?
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  293.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  You are also attacking your churchfathers. They used interpretations of previous theologians. You told me that the bible is clear. How come your churchfathers quote previous theologians for interpretations? The bible was not clear to them?🥴 Your argument leads to throwing your churchfathers under the bus. You are more knowledgeable than your churchfathers? I though they are saints in your Catholicism.
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  294.  @nyctom08  Jesus is called an Abdul in the bible.🤣
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  295.  @inquisitivemind007  We don’t have an issue with three in one. We have an issue with the trinity. The logical contradiction is not three in one in itself. The logical contradiction is when you claim each person is fully god. They are not eachother. There is only one god. That’s a logical contradiction. That’s the issue. Try to learn real objections instead of a strawman.
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  296.  @nyctom08  Is this an argument?🥴🤣 How old is your god? How old is Mary? Was your all powers and all mature god inside Mary? Show me the morality of your ‘god’.🫠
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  297.  @nyctom08  Is your god the most wise and mature being in the universe? Was he inside Mary? What’s the age difference between your eternal god and Mary?🤥🤥 Did he choose to come out of Mary by his own will? Or did the body of Mary forced your all powerfull god to come out?
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  298.  @blackmamba6253  Is the trinity one self or three selves? Is the trinity one mind or three minds?
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  299.  @nyctom08  You have never heard my objections. You have never heard my arguments. These are valid objections. Is this a Muslim claim? Your own scholars are still trying to solve this logical contradiction. That’s why you act like a child. That’s why you resorts to insults and ad hominem. You have no substance. You try to deflect from rational discussions to cheap emotions. Because you can’t defend your position with logic. Do you understand your own position? Is the trinity one self or three selves? Is the trinity one mind or two minds? If you are unable to answer these very easy basic questions. You are simply believing in three gods.
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  300. You don’t understand Christianity. He is right. The Catholics believe that the trinity is one SELF. All three persons are identical to the same SELF. He is right. Jesus is worshipping and praying to himSELF. You don’t even know your own religion.🥴🤣
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  301.  @shryfee7030  It’s not pointless. You just don’t get it. They both aren’t EACH FULLY the cause for the flame. This went over your head. The video is a complete misrepresentation. That’s why the churches are empty
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  302.  @shryfee7030  It has to be. He claims that each person is fully the cause. His analogy complete fails as Hijab pointed out. If your analogy doesn’t work. Don’t blame the one that demonstrates that the analogy fails. If a refutation is demonstrated. You have to provide counter arguments instead of making these silly childish videos.
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  303.  @shryfee7030  You can do that. We can point out the problems in your analogy. It reminds me when Christians use analogies for the trinity. They always end up in heresies. If we point this out. We get answers that it’s just to show how three cab be one. The logical problem and objection is not that three can’t be one. William Lane Craig is not addressing the objection. He just gives a failed analogy to a valid objection. You don’t solve the objection with a failed analogy. Do you get that or not? You blame the one that demonstrates the problems with the analogy instead of providing arguments against the refutation of the analogy.
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  304. Mansur is the trinity? The image of your triune god is triune?
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  305.  @John_Six_Twenty-Nine  We don’t affirm physical properties to God. You affirm two physical shins to the second person in the trinity. You are only making fun of your god. Your god has a real physical body and human nature in heaven right now. That’s your real position without misrepresentation. Keep debunking your own position.🥴🤣
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  306. Is the Spirit also a Son of God? Why is second person called called Son? Why is the Spirit not called Son?🫠
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  307. The trinity is three gods.
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  308.  @OMMANIPADMEHUM8  That’s how gods are counted. They are counted by identity. The three persons are three selves. Three selves are three gods. That’s why mythological gods are counted as multiple gods instead of one god. They are more selves. They are not one self.
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  309.  @sura_65.4  Dumb argument.🥴🤣 Are your hands you?🤣
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  310.  @OMMANIPADMEHUM8  They have the same essence. Human beings have one human nature. Whatever it takes to be a human. We all have it. There is no difference between your trinity. Nobody counts two human persons as one human being. We count two human beings.
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  311.  @OMMANIPADMEHUM8  That’s my argument. Just like how your bible counts other gods. The argument that they should be counted as one god because they can’t be separated is invalid. If this is the case. We should only count one person in the trinity. The persons can’t be separated either in your theology. There is inconsistency in counting.
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  312.  @OMMANIPADMEHUM8  The persons in the trinity have unique properties. The Father CAN beget a Son. The Son can’t beget a Son. If they didn’t have unique properties. There would be only one person. It’s exactly the same as humans. We have shared and unique properties and attributes. The persons in the trinity have shared and unique properties and attributes. There is no difference.
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  313.  @r.nunezz  Chris is a low minded individual. Why should I listen to an online troll who can’t even read a letter in Arabic?
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  314.  @r.nunezz  He is giving his own opinion. He has never read the works of the scholars. He doesn’t even know the basics of Christianity but pretend to be an expert in Arabic and Islamic tradition.🥴
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  315. Chris believes in three gods.
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  316.  @billshepherd5090  You believe in three gods. That’s why you don’t talk about your religion.
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  317.  @lesliewilliam3777  Is Jesus the triune God? Or is he another God?
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  318.  @sura_65.4  Do you accept Hadith? If you accept Hadith. You have accepted the chains of transmission. If you have accepted the chains of transmission. You have accepted the chains of the Qiraat. You are refuting yourself with your question.🫠
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  319.  @sura_65.4  I never made that argument. Where do I claim the trinity is three gods because there are multiple names?🥴 Why do Christians always have to misrepresent people? I know why. Because you can’t deal with the real argument and position. You have to create non existing positions because you can’t refute real positions. That’s why you follow a channel of an uneducated person. He doesn’t even know the basics of Christianity and tries to refute ‘Islam’.🥴🤣
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  320.  @sura_65.4  Do you accept Hadith? Is Hadith evidence for preservation for you? Yes or no? Your question is also nonsensical. The prophet doesn’t have to say that. The author of Donald Duck doesn’t say how many chapters he has written. We all can verify that he has written it. Your question is nonsensical. Even if he would have said that. You still wouldn’t accept it as evidence. This is the problem with Christians. They can’t present a methodology for preservation. If you want to refute preservation. You have to have a criteria, methodology or tool by which to measure. You don’t even have that.🥴🤣
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  321.  @sura_65.4  I never made that argument. My objection to the trinity is not multiple names.🤥🤥 The problem with the trinity and incarnation are logical problems in your positive affirmations of both doctrines. You want me to repeat the logical problems?🫠
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  322.  @sura_65.4  I don’t accept all Hadith. Do you accept authentic Hadith? You asked me to show from the Hadith. You take the Hadith as a criteria of truth for the preservation of the Quran. You have undermined your whole argument Christina.🥴🤣
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  323.  @sura_65.4  The gospels were written by Mark, Luke, Matthew and John?🥴🤣 Who are the parents of this Matthew? Who are the parents of Luke? What are the names of their kids. You believe these people are great figures in your tradition. Why is this information completely absent?🤨 How come you don’t even know the names of their parents and kids? You know nothing about their lives. Somehow they are one of your most important people in your tradition.🥴🤣
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  324.  @sura_65.4  You asked me to show me from the Hadith. You have taken it as a criteria of evidence. When I demonstrate this. You start crying and twisting. Notice how this Christian can’t even make up his mind.🤣🥴 He can’t even provide a methodology or tool for preservation.
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  325.  @sura_65.4  I have real debates. Your fellow Christians are hecklers who beg Muslims for attention. You need us. We don’t need you. You surround Mansur with 20 popular Christian apologists in the park begging him for attention.🥴🤣 You made him a superstar.🤣
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  326.  @sura_65.4  Why should I provide a Hadith? You don’t take Hadith as evidence. But you demand Hadith. It shows that you don’t even have a tool or methodology for preservation. Even if I showed you. You would reject it. Before you even ask insincere non serious questions. Why don’t you first explain to me what preservations means for you. You also have to explain how we should measure if words of people in the past are preserved. Then you can talk to me. If you are not able to do this. All your claims fall flat.🫠
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  327.  @sura_65.4  You don’t accept authentic Hadith for Quranic preservation. Don’t try to be like Paul. Before you even talk about preservation. You have to define your understanding of preservation. You need to provide a methodology or tool by which to measure. If you can’t do that. You are wasting my time. Your claims are meaningless.
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  328.  @sura_65.4  I can do that. We accept Jesus as a prophet of God. We accept that there are some true and authentic things in the books of ‘the bible’. You don’t accept our prophet. You believe our prophet is a liar. You believe the Quran is inspired by Satan. There is no inconsistency. You have simply comprehension problems.
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  329.  @sura_65.4  How does that follow?🥴🤣 If I don’t count my approvals. It means you can’t know how many approvals I made?🥴🤣 This is Christian logic.🤓
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  330.  @sura_65.4  Jesus didn’t say that.
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  331.  @sura_65.4  I don’t accept the bible. I have an objective criteria to know what I can accept and not. You don’t have an objective criteria. You can’t even provide a methodology to know if a prophet really said something.
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  332.  @sura_65.4  Your question is irrelevant. The answer to that question is irrelevant for preservation.
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  333.  @sura_65.4  I don’t cherry pick. I only pick correct things. I have a valid methodology to pick what is true. You don’t even have a methodology.
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  334.  @sura_65.4  If someone believes in the bible. He is simply stating that he accepts the complete bible as true. I don’t accept that. Many atheists don’t accept the bible. They also accept some things in the bible. At least they provide a methodology. You don’t even have a methodology. You can’t even tell me how you verify it a prophet really said something.
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  335.  @sura_65.4  I don’t have to show you. It’s irrelevant for preservation.
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  336.  @sura_65.4  You are not addressing my arguments. You are a defeated man.🫠
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  337.  @sura_65.4  How does that follow?🥴🤣
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  338.  @sura_65.4  How does your argument follow?🥴 No wonder why churches are turned into swimming pools and disco.
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  339.  @sura_65.4  I have spanked you. Logical arguments versus waffling.
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  340.  @allandeverythingatonce  He has lost every debate. In his first discussion with Mansur he lost. He claimed that all the words of Jesus spoken on earth are recorded in your bible.🤥 He literally said that.🤣 How can you claim he won?🤨 He is literally saying nonsense to try to ‘win arguments.’ He is like many Christians. They will say falsehood to try to act like winners.🥴🤣
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  341.  @geoffreybrockmeier3765  You won’t answer my questions. Is the trinity one self or three selves? If you can’t give me a straight answer. You simply believe in three gods and don’t want to talk about it.
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  342.  @jungatheart6359  I’m more knowledgeable than Christians in Christian theology. You won’t be able to discuss theology with me. You will run away. I’m not a Christian. I want misrepresent your theology to refute it. Only Christians try to attack their own strawman.
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  343. He believes in three gods. He is very precise in that.
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  344.  @CaptainChristianZ1818  Is the trinity one self or three selves?
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  345. @ Christians don’t have an answer. They can never give a straight answer. You are proving that. Is the trinity one self or three selves?
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  346. @ You can’t answer my question. What is the answer? Is the trinity one self or three selves? You have plenty of time to type a long comment without answering. Is the trinity one self or three selves? What is the Christian answer?
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  347.  @wylderose3878  Chris believes in three gods. He affirms that the father, son and spirit are all FULLY god. You can’t count? That’s three gods.
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  348.  @rosenmel  Allah is one self. One self can refer to himSELF in the plural. I can do that as well. Is the trinity one self or three selves?
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  349.  @raffam3559  It’s not a logical contradiction. I can refer to myself in the plural. That wouldn’t be a contradiction. Your trinity is a logical contradiction.🫠 You don’t even understand the objection or argument. You don’t even know your own religion.🫠
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  350.  @raffam3559  Your are not responding to me out of fun. You are responding to me because you struggle with my objections against your core doctrines. You don’t have an answer. That bothers you. You want to blame me. You want me to stop bringing these valid logical objections against your incoherent core doctrines.🫠
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  351.  @raffam3559  I have a single brain cell? Let’s put that to the test. Let’s see who is more knowledgeable in Christian theology. Let’s start with my first question. Is the son begotten by the will or nature of the father? Which one is it according to the orthodox position?
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  352.  @rosenmel  That’s not my objection. My objection is not that you can’t comprehend god. My objection is the logical contradictions in the positive affirmations of your god. There are logical contradictions in the claims about your god. If I told you that god can exist and not exist at the same time. I would appeal to a mystery or comprehension. Would you accept that? Or would your rightfully claim that god existing and not existing at the same time is a logical contradiction?
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  353. Chris believes in three gods.
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  354.  @DetInspectorMonkfish  You think this video is intellectual as an atheist?🥴🤣
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  355.  @Vidsofthe_Day  How old is your God? How old is Mary? Was your God in Mary?
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  356.  @gavinjames1145  Are you serious? There is no such thing as The Bible. This is just a myth and false presupposition that you want others to accepts. It’s a deceptive tactic. There is no such thing as the bible. Christians used all sorts of different texts and books. They still do. Manuscript evidence completely destroys the idea of ‘the bible’.
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  357.  @gavinjames1145  You have not made an argument. You are trying to dismiss early commentaries and Hadith. But your commentary is from the 21st century.🥴🤣 Your interpretation of our text never existed in human history. That’s the real dilemma for you. ‘Don’t trust the early commentaries. Trust our commentaries from the 21st century.’🥴🤣 Even contemporary Christians didn’t have your understanding of the words of the prophet. They never understood that the prophet was supposedly claiming that both the Quran and bible are true.🥴🤣 I have better understanding of Christian scripture than 99% of Christians. The same goes for Christian theology. Why do you hide behind Judaism. They make the same accusation against your NT. You can’t be a Christian without double standards. The Quran corrects your polytheism. It corrects the bible and Christian theology on essential things for salvation.
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  358.  @gavinjames1145  Which bible are you talking about?
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  359.  @gavinjames1145  Are there non Christian bibles? You are making claims about any Christian bible. You admit that there are multiples bibles. Why do you keep saying ‘The Bible’. You have refuted this myth with your own argument. Always trying to play with word concept fallacies.🥴🤣
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  360.  @gavinjames1145  This means the NT is borrowing and copying from the books in the OT.🥴🤣
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  361.  @gavinjames1145  What is your methodology to know if Jesus really said something? You keep mentioning the myth of the bible. This is a complete myth created by 16th century Christians. Can you show me any manuscript that corresponds with your 16th century bible?
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  362.  @gavinjames1145  There is no such thing as the bible. Your bibles contains many books. You assume all these different books and authors have the exact same belief and theology. That’s why you keep parroting The Bible.🥴 I have more knowledge in Christian scriptures and theology than you. Christians don’t even know their own scriptures. They have no clue. The Christian scripture says ‘today I have begotten you.’ Christians claim that the verse should be read as ‘I have eternally begotten you.’ 🥴🤣
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  363.  @gavinjames1145  The NT copied the OT? You agree that the authors in the NT were copying and butchering the OT?
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  364.  @gavinjames1145  I’m impressed with your answer. Christians can’t even admit this fact. Would you agree that the NT authors distorted the intended meaning in the OT. They chopped sentences into half and try to isolate it from the rest of the verses, chapters and book. They tried to shoehorn their theology into the text. How is that honesty and objectivity? These are not mistakes. These are deliberate changes. Abrogate the intended meaning and giving it a new meaning. Christian ‘Scholars’ who can’t admit these distortions call it double fulfilment. It’s simply distortion and corruption of the text.
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  365.  @greenbird679  The bible is an incorrect word. You can’t even define that. You also can’t tell me when this supposed canon was closed for addition or change. How can you claim ‘the bible’? What does that even mean?
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  366.  @ProfYaffle  Chris is intellectual?🥴🤣
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  367. These Christians believe God became a baby.🤣
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  368.  @GOD_COMFORTS  You don’t understand basic theology. If you repeat my speech. You don’t become my attribute. We don’t believe a physical book is god. We don’t even make these claims about the speech of human beings. If you repeat my words. I have incarnated you?🥴 What kind of ‘logic’ is that? Your analogy completely fails. Words are spoken. If someone repeats or writes down this speech. This is not an incarnation. This is just a representation of the words I spoke. You are trying to defend your incoherent incarnation doctrine with false analogies. I can refute you in another way. You believe the angel of the lord is Jesus in the OT. You claim he appeared as a man. Why don’t you call this an incarnation?🫠 You are not even consistent with your own explanation and false analogy. The incarnation is unique. This is the Christian position. You claim that one person is fully god and fully man. That’s a logical contradiction. You claim one person is eternal and not eternal at the same time. You claim one person is limited and unlimited at the same time. I suggest you to study. Why don’t you study your actual theological before you bring up these false analogies that even go against your own Christian theology.
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  369. He never made that argument. Christians are always trying to misrepresent people. They never deal with the argument.
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  370. He never made that argument. Where did he make that argument?🤥🤥
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  371.  @sura_65.4  You can’t even prove a simple question.🥴🤣
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  372.  @sura_65.4  Just answer the Question. How do you know?
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  373.  @cartoonmo5976  Jesus is your king? How many kings are there in the trinity? One king or three kings?
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  374.  @cartoonmo5976  Is there one king or three kings in the trinity?
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  375.  @jonhilderbrand4615  Jake never made that argument. You can’t show me he made this argument from the video of Jake. That’s why Chris is not showing any evidence that Jake made this argument. I never claimed that Jake has to say those exact words. You can’t even understand a comment. I said he never made that argument. This is a typical Christian tactic. Chris does that all the time. When he can’t respond to the argument. He tries to misrepresent people to act as if he did refute a video of a Muslim. I have asked several Christians where Jake supposedly made this argument. Nobody can show me. You can’t show me either. You are only making assertions and attacking me for pointing this out instead of providing evidence that Jake made this argument.🤥
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  376.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  We don’t have to show you. Our position is that the Quran is necessary. Because your scriptures can’t be trusted. There is nothing from your prophets.
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  377.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  You have no epistemology. Do you have evidence for Moses and Abraham. Can you prove the existence of both from a historical critical method? You believe it because you believe Jesus confirmed it. You believe Jesus because you believe he is god. That’s your methodology. The same goes for us. We believe Moses, Abraham and Jesus existed based on the revelation of god given to Mohamed. There is a difference between our position and your position. We can trace our scripture back to the prophet. You can’t trace your scriptures back to Jesus or any prophet.🫠
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  378.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  You don’t have either.🫠 We have revelation from god to the last prophet. We can trace it back to the prophet. You can’t trace anything back to any of your accepted prophets.
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  379.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  Show me that the first five books go back to Moses. Show me that the sayings of Jesus in your gospels go back to Jesus. You can’t even do that. Christianity is not able to preserve scripture or theology. Both your bibles and doctrines have updates through councils.
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  380.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  I don’t have to show you. We don’t claim to have the words verbatim of previous prophets. You are making that claim. Our religion doesn’t depend on the words verbatim of previous prophets. Your religion completely relies on it. You claim to have the words of all these prophets. We simply claim to have the words of god and the last prophet. That’s our position. Don’t try to impose your position on us. We can prove our position. You can’t prove your position.
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  381.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  It’s affirming revelation. It’s not claiming that this revelation is completely preserved. How do you know? Because we have the words of the prophet and god. You don’t have that. Everytime we ask you to prove your position. You run to our sources because you can’t back up your position. You claim at the same time that our scriptures are inspired by the devil.🤥 That’s why Christianity is collapsing. There are too many people like you. People can sense your insincerity.
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  382.  @RIS3N1  Christians are terrible in discussions. They can’t even follow an argument. Are you claiming that Chris is a knowledgeable person?🥴🤣
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  383. The trinity is three gods.
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  384.  @lahleholivia7398  The trinity is three gods. One of those three gods became a baby. 🥴🤣
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  385.  @lahleholivia7398  Your mangod is called Abdellah in the Arabic bible.🤣 Your ‘god’ is called an Abdul in your Hebrew Bible. This Abdul was a baby at some point in time. You believe this Abdul is god.🤣
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  386.  @fred1534  Why do you believe in three gods? Why do you believe god became a baby? 👶🏼
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  387.  @anthonysmith-m3w  You believe a human being is god.🥴
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  388.  @lahleholivia7398  Is a baby limited?🤣🥴
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  389.  @cocomelon4133  That argument is never made. Even non Muslim scholars in Islamic studies would make this low level claim. You are right. The trinity is not mentioned in this video or any other video. Christians run away from the essentials topics for salvation and try to waste time with these low level videos. Try to publish your claims in an academic paper. You will be laughed at.🤣 All your claims can only be found on these low level propaganda channels. They are not found in academia.
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  390.  @lahleholivia7398  Your god became a baby?👶🏼
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  391.  @cocomelon4133  Bart Ehrman is nog a scholar in Islamic studies. He didn’t make a claim about the Quran. He made a claim based on what Hijab said. He didn’t understand the argument that Hijab made. The argument is not that a book that has no contradiction must be from god. The argument is that a book of god can’t have logical contradictions. God can’t reveal logical contradictions. You don’t even understand the argument. Your fellow Christian wasted an entire video attacking his own strawman.
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  392. Christianity is Paulytheism.
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  393.  @thunderous-one  What is the definition of the Quran? 🫠 Where did you get your list from? From which ‘scholarly’ source?🫠
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  394. The trinity is three gods.
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  395. Chris believes in three gods.
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  396.  @gavinjames1145  Who commands that?🥴🤓
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  397.  @Slaw6602  Is your Jesus the triune God?
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  398.  @susanlaycock7078  Is Jesus the triune God?
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  399. @KZNGUY23 Paul is a clown.
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  400. Chris believes in three gods.
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  401. Is Jesus the triune God?
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  402.  @gavinjames1145  Are you sure? These are your claims. 1 the triune God is the true God 2 Jesus is the true God Is Jesus the triune God? Yes or no?
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  403.  @gavinjames1145  It’s not nonsensical. It’s a valid question. You claim that Jesus is God. You also claim that your God is triune. It follows from the law of identity that your Jesus must be the triune God to be the same God. That’s called logic. Do you reject logic?
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  404.  @gavinjames1145  You are not a Christian? Why are you defending the illogical trinity? What’s your motivation to do that? This is not a Muslim claim. This is a logical claim. It’s called the logical problem of the trinity (LPT). Christian analytical philosophers are still writing articles and books about it to try to solve the problem. They can’t solve it. A logical contradiction is a logical contradiction. If the triune God are the three persons together. How can each person be fully god?🫠 Your ‘solution’ is partialism. That’s a heresy according to the church. ‘The Son is God.’ This is an identity statement. This statement means the Son is identical to God. But you also claim that the identity of this God is triune. How can the Son be identical to the triune God? You should stop making accusations. You should start dealing with the valid logical objection. Trying to ignore the issue won’t make the logical contradiction go away.
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  405. Yahweh is called Baal in your bible.
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  406. @ThePrimusCrusader What if I show you? What if I show you that Yahweh was called Baal in your bible? It’s not a misrepresentation. It comes from the mouth of ‘Yahweh’ in your bible. He allowed people to call him Baal at same point in time. Then he made it forbidden in your bible by a command. Are you aware of this verse?
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  407. @ThePrimusCrusader Jesus is called an Abdul in your bible. You want sources? I’m not a Christian. I can back up any claim with a scholarly source. Eric M Meyers The Oxford encyclopedia of archeology in the Near East volume 1. The Holy land: an archeological guide from earliest time to 1700 by Jerome Murphy O Connor. If you want more. I can give you many more sources. Beth Yerah is a tell located on the southern shore of the Sea of Galilee. Beth Yerah means house of the moon. Jericho has the same word in it. Yericho is derived from the Canaanite moongod Yah.
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  408. @ThePrimusCrusader I can do that. I have dropped the sources. Jesus is called an Abdul in your bible. You want sources? I’m not a Christian. I can back up any claim with a scholarly source. Eric M Meyers The Oxford encyclopedia of archeology in the Near East volume 1. The Holy land: an archeological guide from earliest time to 1700 by Jerome Murphy O Connor. If you want more. I can give you many more sources. Beth Yerah is a tell located on the southern shore of the Sea of Galilee. Beth Yerah means house of the moon. Jericho has the same word in it. Yericho is derived from the Canaanite moongod Yah.
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  409. @ThePrimusCrusader I have provided the sources. Can you see the comment?
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  410.  @magepunk2376  Jake never made that argument. Chris is misrepresenting Jake. That’s why he doesn’t show any evidence of Jake making this argument.
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  411.  @tadm123  Jake never made this argument. You can’t show or demonstrate that. Chris has not shown or proven that Jake made this argument. There is a reason why Chris is not showing what Jake is saying.
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  412.  @greenbird679  Rebecca is three. Your god is eternal and was inside Mary in your religion.🥴
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  413.  @Redsok  Ibn Masud is in the chains of the Qiraat.🫠 You have no answer for that. He is in the chains of transmission of four Qiraat.🫠
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  414.  @Redsok  Can you explain the trinity? Is the trinity one self or three selves? Which one?
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  415.  @dlingfasin6826  Nobody can explain it. They call it a mystery to avoid addressing the logical problem of the trinity.
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  416.  @jaylinbezuidenhout9204  Is this about morality? Do you mean numbers 31:17?
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  417.  @Mot-o1e  Did he provide a scholarly source? The answer is no. He hasn’t even defined what ‘The bible’ is. He keeps using this undefined word.🥴
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  418.  @cartoonmo5976  The bible calls Jesus a curse on a tree.
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  419.  @techwood1233  What is the definition of a prophet? A spokesman of god on earth according to biblical scholars Z do you agree with this definition?
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  420.  @cartoonmo5976  What does that mean? ‘Jesus is God?’ Jesus is identical to God? Which God? The triune God? Jesus is identical to the triune God?🥴 Your whole religion is a mess.
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  421.  @cartoonmo5976  Is Jesus identical to the triune God? Is there another God than the Triune God?
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  422.  @Mot-o1e  It’s not a Greek word. It’s an Arabic word. It’s a loanword from Aramaic. Aramaic borrowed this word from Greek. Garage is an English words. It’s a loanword from French. It doesn’t make it less English because it has a foreign origin.🥴 Why is injio originally from Greek? The answer is very easy. The word Injil predates your bible and gospels. It was used by the Greek empire for state declarations. The Greeks controlled many Aramaic territory. This word was adopted in their language prior to the written gospels. That’s the answer.
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  423.  @cartoonmo5976  Is Jesus the triune God or is he another God?
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  424.  @techwood1233  You have answered. Is Paul a prophet? You deny that Paul is a prophet. Therefore he is not a spokesman of god on earth. We can dismiss him. We can dismiss his message. If Paul is not a prophet (spokesman of Gon earth). It means he is not a spokesman of god.
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  425.  @cartoonmo5976  These are your premises. 1 only the triune God is the true God 2 Jesus is the true God it follows from premise one and two that Jesus must be the triune God. You can reject premise one. If you reject premise one. You entertain that there can be another God than the triune God. It’s check mate.
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  426.  @cartoonmo5976  That’s not an answer for the problem. If Jesus is not the same God as the triune God. He must be another God. Do you affirm more gods than the triune God in identity?
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  427.  @cartoonmo5976  Do you have an academic source for your claim? Which Classical Arabic dictionary did you use to make up your own translation? What is your objective criteria for the Classical Arabic language? The Muslim didn’t have to make things up. Jesus prays to God in your bible. You affirm this. No Muslim or any academic affirms that Allah prays. It’s a non academic nonsensical claim of Christians who can’t explain why Jesus prays if he is God. 🫠
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  428.  @cartoonmo5976  Jesus is not identical to God?
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  429.  @cartoonmo5976  You don’t have any academic source. You are just waffling. Show me one academic source. I’m waiting. It’s an issue if someone prays to God. It means he relies on God. Anyone that relies on God can’t be a God.
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  430.  @Mot-o1e  I gave you evidence. You haven’t responded to the evidence. The word ewangelion existed prior to the written gospels. Your gospels were not even called gospels before the second century. The earliest commentators called it the memoires of the apostles. They didn’t call it gospels. You are just talking from false unproven presuppositions. The word Injeel existed in the Arabic language. It was adopted in the Arabic language through Ethiopian. They ruled south Arabia in the sixth century. You don’t know what you are talking about. The Ethiopians borrowed it from Aramaic. Injeel is an Arabic word. You can find it in the Arabic dictionary and is part of the Arabic language. You have been proven wrong.
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  431.  @techwood1233  That’s just your assertion. Your biblical prophets have false prophecies.
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  432.  @techwood1233  You are defending the bible. You accept the bible to be true. I’m questioning that. You have no answer. All your claims can be used against your own sources. If you don’t believe in organised religions. Where do you get your criteria for a prophet from?🤥🥴 You are incoherent. You can’t even formulate a logical argument.
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  433.  @cartoonmo5976  Jesus is identical or not identical to God? Is the trinity one identity or three identities?
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  434.  @cartoonmo5976  That’s not an academic source. That’s your made up interpretation of a translation. You can’t provide any scholarly work for your low level missionary claims. Christians always have to make things up. They can’t refute real theology and positions. Your ‘god’ prays to god. That’s very problematic. The trinity doesn’t solve any of this. Do you believe the trinity is one consciousness or three consciousnesses?🥴
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  435.  @cartoonmo5976  There is no refutation. There is no minimum age in the text. He is right. You are imposing that into the text. You can’t show any Christian in history who did the same. These are all modern made up interpretations imposed by atheists. Christians are under control of atheists. They have abounded traditional values for modern pagan values. Christianity can’t preserve scripture. Christianity also can’t preserve theology or morality.
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  436.  @mo_53_married_aisha_6  It’s not only the bible. It’s all Christians in history. Only modern Christians are the exception.
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  437.  @cartoonmo5976  Why does your god demand 32 virgin girls?
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  438. What is the Abrahamic faith? The trinity from the 4th century?🥴🤣
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  439.  @lahleholivia7398  Why does he command numbers 31:18? Why does he demand 32 young girls for himself in your bible?🥴
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  440.  @Valconize  Only trinitarians make this claim. It’s completely non academic.
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  441.  @lahleholivia7398  Tanwir al miqbas is not from Ibn Abbas.🥴🤣 Even this author is speaking about young women and not young children.🫠 Menstruation is not a decisive criteria for puberty. He is also not advocating to do it with a one day old baby. Your made up interpretations are not found in any scholarly work or in any fiqh book. Even non Muslim scholars in Islamic studies don’t make your absurd claim. They do claim that numbers 31:18 includes babies and kids who have not reached puberty. Check mate.🥴🤣
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  442.  @techwood1233  The trinity is not even found in the current bible. Only trinitarians claim this based on proof texting. Using the trinity as a criteria to prove a trinity. It’s completely circular. All earliest churchfathers didn’t believe in the trinity. They follow logos theology. Logos theology is two stage theology. They adopted this from Greek philosophy. They were all educated in Greek philosophy.
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  443.  @techwood1233  It doesn’t have to say trinity directly. That’s not my argument. The concept is not found.
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  444.  @lahleholivia7398  There is no girl in the Arabic. It’s sagheera Nisa (woman). There is not girl. It’s someone who has reached puberty but doesn’t have (irregular) menstruation. You copy articles from Shamoun who believes god was inside Mary.🥴🤣
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  445.  @MassDefeq  The trinity is not in the bible. You can’t even present an objective methodology to interpret the bible. You will use the trinity as a criteria to interpret the bible. It’s completely circular. You are also assuming and presupposing that all authors of the different books in the bible have the exact same theology and view. This proves that you take the trinity as a criteria to interpret any text in your bible.
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  446.  @techwood1233  There is no trinity. You can’t even provide an objective methodology for interpretation.
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  447.  @MassDefeq  I have studied the bible and Christian theology. The three persons are IDENTIFIED as God. This means there is one identity. It follows from the law of identity that the persons must be identical to eachother if they are all identical to one identity. Your methodology only results in modalism.
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  448.  @lahleholivia7398  There is no girl. The word is Nisa. It’s explained from the context of Nisa (woman). They don’t mean babies. Even non Muslim scholars in Islamic studies and law don’t make your absurd claims and made up interpretations.🫠 They do claim that numbers 31:18 include girls who have not reached puberty. 🤢 How old is your God? How old is Mary? Was your God inside Mary?🥴
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  449.  @techwood1233  That’s not the trinity. Arians also accept that.
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  450.  @MassDefeq  I have studied the bible. I have more theological and biblical knowledge than you. It’s not even close.
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  451.  @MassDefeq  This is in context of women. The word is Nisa. Jalalayn and ibn Kathir don’t mean babies of 1 day old.🤓 Everyone is lying except Christians. Find me one non Muslim scholar in Islamic studies who agrees with your made up interpretations of commentaries. Menstruation is not a decisive criteria for puberty. Young women have delayed or irregular menstruation. They already have all signs of puberty. Show me the criteria from your bible? You also disagree with your churchfathers and theologians. Calvin and Aquinas set the age at 7. Aquinas is a Saint in the Catholic Church.🤣
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  452.  @MassDefeq  I know your religion better than you. Your churchfathers and all Christians in history don’t have your modern morality. You try to impose your pagan morality into your bible. You try to use this to attack Islam. It’s pathetic. You are only attacking 99% of Christians in history.
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  453.  @lahleholivia7398  Maududi doesn’t mention girls. What is girls in Arabic?🤥🤥 Your bible does mention girls in numbers 31:18.🤢
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  454.  @MassDefeq  They don’t agree with your made up interpretation. They all say Nisa (Women). Can you show me the word atfal (children)?🤥🤥 You have never read the works of these commentators. You haven’t even read the works of your own churchfathers. You are uneducated people. Your modern morality is not found in the bible or in your tradition. Modern Christians make up interpretations of their sources. They are embarrassed what the bible really says. They have to come up with modern made up interpretations and throw all Christians in history under the bus.
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  455.  @MassDefeq  They don’t mention children. Cab you show me the word children?🤥🤥 The Arabic word for children is atfal. The mention Nisa (women). You are proven wrong. You have no argument against this clear evidence. Your interpretation of these commentaries are not academic. Even non Muslim scholars in Islamic studies don’t make your absurd claims. You have never read the works of these people. You just copy paste stuff from uneducated people like Hassamo Shamoun. Only modern Christians make these accusations. All Christians in history don’t agree with your modern made up morality. Modern Christians worship are closet atheists. If you have a problem with marriage of young women who have reached puberty. You should throw away your bible. You should also throw away all Christians in history. Nobody agrees with you.
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  456.  @Valconize  How is that relevant? Academics don’t claim if things happened or not. They look what the text says. What the author intends to say.
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  457.  @MassDefeq  Where is the word children?🤥🥴 You made that up. The word Nisa is in the commentary. Nisa means women. The word atfal (children) is not found. Your made up interpretations of these commentaries are proven wrong. That’s why you won’t find any academic making these claims. All your crap comes from Christian missionary websites. These are all non scholarly websites. That shows your true level. Muslims are not dishonest. Christians are dishonest. Christians reject biblical teachings. Christians throw the bible and all Christians in history under the bus for modernity.
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  458.  @lahleholivia7398  Young women (Nisa). Who are the girls in numbers 31:18? Have they reached puberty?🤢
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  459.  @MassDefeq  They don’t mention children. You just made that up. They all mention Nisa. Nisa means women. Your interpretation of these commentaries are not academic. Only non academic polemical websites make these accusations. It shows where Christians get their ‘knowledge’ from. Numbers 31:18 mentions GIRLS.🤢
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  460.  @lahleholivia7398  Who are they? Can’t you read. It refers to Nisa. It refers to the young women (Nisa). Who are the girls in numbers 31:18? 🤢
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  461.  @MassDefeq  Cab you show me the word children? Can you also show me a non Muslim scholar who is qualified in the works of the commentators who agree with you? Even non Muslim scholars don’t agree with you. I guess they are also liars.🤓🤥🤣 I can show you scholarly interpretations of numbers 31:18.🤢
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  462.  @MassDefeq  They don’t mention children. They mention Nisa. Nisa means women. Your interpretation doesn’t exist in any scholarly work. You can’t show me any expert in these commentaries who agrees with you. That includes non Muslim scholars.
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  463.  @lahleholivia7398  I have already answered that. It’s mentioned in the commentary. The word is Nisa. Nisa means women. It’s talking about young women who have delayed or irregular menstruation. Who are the girls in numbers 31:18?
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  464.  @MassDefeq  You have never read ibn kathir. Ibn Kathir has works in jurisprudence. We know what he believes and how he understands the Quran. You have not read any work. You read from Christian websites. You try to isolate text and give it your own spin. You claimed that children were mentioned. The word children is not found. Only the word young is found. The young is im context of Nisa which he quotes from the verse of the Quran. That’s why no scholar supports your Christian made up spins. You are not people of scholarship. You are people of desires who can’t even formulate a logical argument. If you really believe in your claim. Why don’t you publish it in an academic paper? They will laugh at you. In numbers 31:18 girls are mentioned. We don’t have to make things up to give a scholarly critique. Scholars confirm that this verse includes babies and prepubescents. Your god ordered this.🤢
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  465.  @lahleholivia7398  He is quoting the Quran. Who are young? The Nisa are young. Nisa means women. In numbers 31:18 it says girls. I can even show you from experts in commentaries. They all agree that these little girls were taken as concubines. Your god ordered this.🤢
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  466.  @MassDefeq  You have never read Ibn Kathir. Ibn Kathir has works in jurisprudence. That’s why you can’t show me any expert in the works of Ibn Kathir who agrees with you. You can’t even show me a non Muslim expert and scholar in Ibn Kathir who agrees with you. Ibn Kathir doesn’t consider menstruation to be a decisive criteria for puberty. He is talking about young women who haven’t menstruated yet. This commentary is talking about people who have reached puberty but don’t have menstruation yet.
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  467.  @MassDefeq  The young refers to women. You left that part out. You left the sentence where he classifies the young in the group of Nisa (women). You are a typical Christian who quote mines and isolates text. There are still some WOMEN whose `Iddah has not been mentioned in the Qur'an. There are the young, the old whose menstruation is discontinued, and the pregnant. This is all in context of WOMEN and not Children. In numbers 31:18 it mentions Children.🤢
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  468.  @MassDefeq  The quote is not helping you. The quote from azbab al nuzul says women. You are refuting yourself. ‘WOMEN who have not been mentioned.’ There is no children. Even your quote refutes you. Children is mentioned in numbers 31:18. It says girls.🤢
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  469.  @lahleholivia7398  Rebecca is three years old. How old is your God? How old is Mary? What’s the age, power and intellectual difference between your God and Mary? Is that greater than between a 50 yeats old and a 10 years old?🤢
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  470.  @lahleholivia7398  Your god commands pdf in numbers 31:18.
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  471.  @MassDefeq  Those in the category of WOMEN. You literally affirmed that. The young is in the category of women and not children. Those refers to women. Those women who are too young to menstruate. It’s in context of WOMEN. Ibn Kathir and all commentators affirm this in their works of jurisprudence. They don’t agree with your made up interpretation of their works. Nobody agrees with you. You can find these claims and interpretations only on non academic websites. You follow these websites. Christians don’t care about scholarship. Girls are mentioned in numbers 31:18. You keep ignoring this. You are embarrassed by your own bible.🥴
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  472.  @lahleholivia7398  I will give you the verse. If you give me the verse of a minimum age for marriage in your bible. You insist on specific verses on age. You demand age from the bible. Show me the minimum age for marriage in your bible. You can’t be a Christian without double standards.
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  473.  @lahleholivia7398  You can’t give me the verse for minimum age in the bible. Tut tut 🤢🕺🏻
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  474.  @lahleholivia7398  Why are you going to Corinthians. I’m showing you numbers 31:18. Corinthians was not written yet.🤥 Your god commanded to take little babies as concubine.🤢
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  475.  @lahleholivia7398  You skipped the bible. Prepubescent girls are mentioned in numbers 31:18. The Quran mentions Women (Nisa). The bible says girls in Hebrew. Tut tut 🤢🕺🏻
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  476.  @lahleholivia7398  Rebecca has a nanny in your bible.🥴🤣 She is called naarah. Naarah means girl. Your definition of woman and 18 years old didn’t exist in the time of Rebecca.🤥 Christians can only come with their modern made up interpretations that nobody had in Christian or Jewish history. Only modern Christians make this claim. You want to hear something funny? This story has a book for children.🤣 The book is called ‘Kind LITTLE Rivka.’🥴🤣 Rebecca is a child in your bible. In numbers 31:18 your god commands old men to take little babies.🤢
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  477.  @whodoyouthinkiam210  Christians are throwing their scholars under the bus. All historical Christian theologians disagree with you. They didn’t have the Holy Spirit to interpret your bible correctly?🥴
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  478. Chris believes in three gods.
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  479.  @fred1534  ‘These idols are mere names that you and your forefathers have made up. a practice Allah has never authorized. They follow nothing but assumptions and whatever their souls desire, although true guidance has already come to them from their Lord.’ Is the trinity one self or three selves?🫠 Christians have no answers. This polytheist can’t answer my question.🫠
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  480.  @Spoken-e5p  You don’t understand your own doctrine. Your formula is modalism. In your formula all ones are identical to eachother.
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  481.  @Spoken-e5p  I can answer all your silly questions. You can’t even formulate a logical argument. I can formulate logical arguments against your real theological position. You can’t answer my question. That’s why you try to deflect. This is also the reason why you ask many questions at the same time. You are panicking. Your formula is modalism. 1x1x1=1 is modalism. All ones in your formula are identical to eachother. This means the Father, Son and Spirit are identical to eachother. It simply means the Son is the Father in your formula. You have no answer to my refutation if your heretical formula.
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  482.  @cocomelon4133  That’s not the argument. That’s why Muslims don’t engage with your silly low level ‘arguments’. There is a reason why Christians run away from core doctrines.
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  483. God logic believes in three gods.
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  484.  @cocomelon4133  Your mangod is called an Abdul in your bible.🥴🤣
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  485.  @TestifyApologetics  Chris didn’t respond to the argument of Jake. Where did Jake make this argument?🥴🤣 That’s the reason why Chris is not showing the video of Jake. Show me in the video of Jake where he made this argument? Give me the timestamp. I’m waiting.
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  486.  @Gady______  The Quran never makes this argument. The Quran gives reasons and evidence outside the Quran. It even tells people to use their intellect. You don’t have to believe in the Quran to know that the bible is false. The Quran points outside the Quran why your bible can’t be trusted.
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  487.  @Gady______  It doesn’t say you must accept the Quran without reasons outside the Quran. The Quran is true based on logical arguments outside the Quran. If that is established. We can use it as a criteria. There is no circular. You have simply comprehension problems.
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  488.  @Gady______  The NT has no continuity with the OT.
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  489.  @greenshirtiv4n211  Jake never made the argument in this video. There is a reason why Chris is not playing the video of Jake. He tries to say for Jake what the argument is to try to misrepresent. The argument is not based if the Quran is true. He even says let’s assume we don’t know who wrote the Quran for the sake of argument. The author corrects the bible in details. He makes corrections based on what he believes is true. Whether it’s really true is irrelevant. He believes it’s true and makes corrections in details found in the bible. The argument that the author doesn’t know the bible is simply incorrect. Christians claim that the author says the Quran and bible are both true. Thats absolutely absurd. The author makes deliberate correction after correction. The excuse of Christians is that the author didn’t know the bible. Therefore he said both are true. This is a ridiculous claim.
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  490.  @Gady______  This is your argument. ‘The New Testament quoted the Old Testament. Therefore the New Testament has continuity with the Old Testament.’ You believe this is a logical argument. Let’s use your argument. The apocrypha quote the Old Testament. Therefore the apocrypha had continuity with the Old Testament.🥴🤨 If you make such poor arguments. You open up a can of worms. How is quoting verses from the OT continuation? How does that even follow?
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  491.  @cartoonmo5976  God is only one in the Quran. God is one by necessity. Your bible teaches henotheism. Henotheism is by definition false.
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  492. @ThePrimusCrusader The trinity is three gods.🥴
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  493.  @Gady______  You claimed continuity. You claimed that the bible has continuity. The apocrypha also accepted the OT. They also quote the OT. Do they have continuity with the OT? Your answer would be no. Your argument doesn’t even make sense. You agree that quoting and accepting the OT doesn’t prove continuity. Yet you are using these arguments for the NT.🥴
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  494.  @Gady______  I’m talking about apocrypha that are not in the Deutero canon. They accept and quote the OT. They must have continuity based on your argument for the NT.
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  495.  @chineduibeh7363  That’s not the argument. The author of the Quran believes it’s true. That’s why he makes these corrections. It’s irrelevant if it’s true or not. The Author believes it’s true. That’s why he makes these corrections. But you claim that he believes both the Quran and bible are true. You have no answer for this argument. Chris had not responded to the argument. He misrepresented the argument of Jake. He did this because he has no answer for the argument. It destroys his claim.
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  496.  @chineduibeh7363  You don’t even know the theology of the Quran. There is no concept of being a sinner or sinless. That’s a Christian concept that you try to impose in the Quran. The Quran makes logical arguments why your scriptures can’t be trusted. You don’t have to accept the Quran to know this. You don’t have to accept the Quran to know that your bible can’t be trusted. You claim to have the words of the prophets. We don’t make this claim. We have the words of god and the last prophet. You claim to have the words verbatim of previous prophets. You can’t demonstrate or show that.
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  497.  @chineduibeh7363  You believe in a timeless god. How can he cease or have a break? You don’t even believe that your god can act in succession. Even if we accept your later interpretation to try to solve this problem. The problem is not solved yet. You believe in a timeless god who is only actuality and can’t act in succession.
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  498.  @chineduibeh7363  Your explanation doesn’t make any sense. Nobody made this accusation in history. It’s the easiest argument to use as a refutation if your made up interpretation would be correct. No Christian in history ever made this argument and accusation. Only modern Christians have a brain? Or your interpretation is simply absurd.
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  499.  @chineduibeh7363  The Quran demonstrates that Christians corrupt revelation. It points to observation. Everyone can observe that your books are altered and changed. You don’t have to be a Muslim to see this. Everyone can see it from observation. Christianity can’t preserve scriptures. Christianity can’t preserve theology either. Both have multiple updates and changes.
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  500.  @chineduibeh7363  We don’t believe in a timeless god. You believe in divine simplicity. We reject divine simplicity. It’s a false and incoherent doctrine. There is a before and there is an after for your god. 1 he did not create 2 he created in six DAYS 3 he ceased to create on the seventh DAY That’s called succession. But you reject that your god can have successive acts. Your position is a logical contradiction.
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  501.  @islamisamess6160  Is the trinity one self or three selves?
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  502.  @cutlerlon8468  Three gods is better than one god?🥴🤣
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  503.  @jeremycrawford4004  Your analogy is modalism. Is the trinity one self or three selves?
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  504.  @NewCovenantOfChrist  I don’t believe mercy and wrath are identical. Do you believe mercy and wrath are identical? Do you believe the property of mercy is identical to the property of justice? Yes or no? Let’s see who is logical.
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  505.  @sura_65.4  You don’t even have an argument.🥴🤣 If someone has three names. He must be three beings or three persons?🥴🤣
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  506.  @Odo-so8pj  We don’t make your claims. You believe in incarnation. If you repeat my words. I don’t become an incarnation in you. You are so desperate to even try to pull this absurd analogy.🥴🤣
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  507.  @Odo-so8pj  Your god can’t forgive without human sacrifice?
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  508.  @ryanparris1021  There is no Muslim who claims that the revelation from God to the prophet is eternal. You don’t even know the basics.🥴🤣
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  509.  @cartoonmo5976  Muslims don’t believe in your made up interpretations of our sources. Your made up theology doesn’t exist. You are not an educated person. Your comments prove that you are clueless in theology. If you would publish these claims in a university. They will kick you out.
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  510.  @Odo-so8pj  Where does it say that? Where does the Quran claim that Moses had to follow the Quran?
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  511.  @Odo-so8pj  The Quran is not eternal. It’s not from eternally past. It’s revelation from god to the LAST prophet. It’s for the prophets time and after till the day of judgement. If you don’t know the Islamic position. Don’t talk at all.
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  512.  @Odo-so8pj  The same religion doesn’t mean the same scripture or revelation.🤨🤣 How does that even follow?🥴 The verses don’t claim that the prophets had to follow the last revelation. They had to follow previous revelations. These previous revelations contain similarities but are not identical in requirements. Islam simply means submission to the one and only god. You can’t even formulate a logical argument. 🥴🤣
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  513.  @Lavender-blue80  Do you believe the Quran is inspired by Satan?🥴🤣 You believe the Quran teaches all those terrible things. You also believe the Quran says that the Christians should follow the bible?🤥 You are contradicting yourself. You are saying that ‘Satan’ says that Christians should follow the bible?🤣
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  514.  @Odo-so8pj  Your interpretation is not called Islam. Show me any source that says that the interpretation of a Christian YouTuber of the Quran is called Islam.🤥🥴
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  515.  @HeLpLOstGOdAny1  Do you accept modalism? If one self has multiple names and titles. That self becomes more selves?🥴🤣 No wonder why you are a Christian.
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  516. Your Christian apologists are in the pocket of Zionism.
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  517.  @johnpeter3626  Thats what you are. You do the work for people who curse Jesus in the Talmud. I’m glad you admit you are working for them.
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  518. Bob believes in three gods.
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  519. You just don’t get it. They both aren’t EACH FULLY the cause for the flame. This went over your head. The video is a complete misrepresentation. That’s why the churches are empty
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  520.  @Yeoman530  That’s not the argument. It’s one god in your trinity. He was arguing for an independent full cause of each person. In your analogy each match is not fully the cause. The flame is also bigger as Hijab pointed out. If your analogy is refuted. Try to provide arguments instead of repeating your refuted analogy. Hijab is right.
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  521.  @nyctom08  You haven’t made an argument. Hijab literally said that both can’t be fully responsible for the effect. You are just proving that. The two matches are not each fully the cause of the effect. Hijab is right. You simply can’t follow an argument. That’s why you have no substance.
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  522.  @nyctom08  Chris is misrepresenting Hijab. That’s why he cut the part out where Hijab literally says that both can’t be fully responsible. Hijab pointed out that his analogy is partialism. You can’t even follow an argument. Christians reject logic.
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  523.  @bac7  If one is fully responsible. The analogy fails. In the trinity each person is fully responsible.
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  524.  @xxphillips  This is false. We have the same essence. Are we one being or two beings?
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  525.  @paolobagatella8556  I have responded. Your excuses don’t provide a solution. Your first point is begging the question. Assuming that the trinity is one being while we are examining that. You can’t even define what one being is without contradicting yourself. Is one being one self or three selves? They can’t be both true. I have also refuted your second argument. The persons in the trinity don’t have the same power. You believe the father has the power to beget a son. You believe the son doesn’t have the power to beget a son. They don’t have the same powers, abilities and properties. How is eternal or not eternal relevant for counting gods? It’s not even relevant if gods exist to count them in false theologies. There are still three false gods. Counting is not dependent if a god exists or is eternal. It’s a terrible argument. All knowing or not all knowing is irrelevant. Even false gods are counted. They are still multiple false gods like your trinity. You have not given an argument why we should count three persons as one being. ‘They are eternal. They are all knowing.’ How is that relevant for counting? It’s only special pleading. If three persons are eternal. We should count them as one being. If they are not eternal. They are three beings. Why is that? What is your logical justification for this made up assertion? You really believe you made good arguments. That’s the most funny part. You have not provided an argument and evidence. You only made assertions. I also can invent rules. I can claim that if three relations are eternal. We should not count them as three persons but one person. If you ask my why. I will say that they are eternal.🥴🤣 How is that an argument?
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  526.  @lesliewilliam3777  How many human beings are 7 billion human persons? One human being or 7 billion human beings?
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  527.  @RIS3N1  You can’t respond to the refutation. He said that we should count the persons as one being because they ar eternal and have the same power. I have asked him for a justification. I have asked him why. He gave no justification. He only says that we should count in this way. How is that an argument?🥴🤣 That’s just a made up rule without any logical justification. I can invent a similar rule. I can claim that the three relations must be counted as one person instead of three. Because they have the same power and eternal. How is that an argument?🥴🤣
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  528. These Christians believe in three gods.
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  529.  @John-critic  Is Jesus the triune god? Or is he another god? How many gods do you believe in? Do you only believe in the triune god? Or is there another god?
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  530. The Christian mangod says to eat his body. Have you done that?
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  531.  @Vocem_meam  He has no knowledge. He is incoherent and argues in bad faith. These are his claims. 1 the Quran is inspired by Satan. 2 the Quran affirms the bible 3 the Quran advises Christians to judge by the bible. He is basically arguing that Satan advises Christians to judge by the bible.🥴 That’s how incoherent he is. You can’t be a Christian without refuting yourself.
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  532.  @Joanne-t6j  David Wood and Ap are incoherent. An atheist debating if someone is a true prophet or not?🥴
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  533. You are funded. Bob and you are funded by Zion groups. You are not funded by a Christian group. You are just parroting Zion propaganda. I feel sorry for Christians. This ‘Christian’ clearly worships one ethnicity. It’s not his own ethnicity.
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  534.  @chrisatspeakerscorner  Your whole argument relies on a presupposition. We know from manuscript evidence that Christians accepted all sorts of text and scriptures. There is not a single manuscript that corresponds with your canon. There are many gospels that Christians used. You can’t show us any manuscript to back up your claim. It’s all based on presupposition. Your claim is nonsensical. The Quran is correcting your gospels and bible. Nobody understood that the Quran affirms the bible. Christians and Jews would immediately used this argument. We don’t find this argument in history. Only modern Christians make this argument. Why are they making this argument? Because they gave up on their bible. They can’t defend their bible. They try to argue that the Quran affirms the bible. They also claim that the Quran says to judge by the bible. They also claim the Quran is inspired by Satan. It shows how incoherent your ‘argument’ is.
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  535.  @chrisatspeakerscorner  You have an alternative take of history. We find manuscripts with many gospels that you don’t accept. The manuscript evidence doesn’t support your bible at all. It shows that Christians try to lie to people. They claim that Christians used the same books. This is completely false from manuscript evidence. It’s even worse. The earliest manuscript that corresponds with your 16th century canon is from the 11th century ce. It’s not even complete. It could have included books that you don’t accept.
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  536.  @chrisatspeakerscorner  Your bible is not historical. Your presupposition is false from the get go. No Christian in history ever argued for this supposed ‘dilemma’. No Christian or Jew ever made this argument in the time of the prophet. If he is claiming to confirm the bible. But also to confirm the Quran. They would immediately make this accusation. We don’t find this accusation or argument in history. Do you know why? Because your interpretation never existed in history. Keep running away from the problem of your bible.🫠
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  537.  @sura_65.4  I can show you numbers 31:17. The bible says that masters can beat their slaves. Your bible also says that men are AUTHORITY over men. How can a man exercise his authority? How did the men in your OT respond to rebellious women? What does your bible claim about women that do terrible dangerous things in a marriage? Does your bible teach to call male cops to use force against your wife?🥴🤣 In which verse is that? The husband can’t use force in your bible? Strange men can use force against your wife?🥴🤣
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  538.  @chrisatspeakerscorner  You should stop with this nonsensical claim. Nobody buys your argument. Your theory is absolutely ridiculous from a logical point of view. If your argument would be true. We would find all Christians and Jews making this accusation. Many Christians and Jews converted to Islam. There are also many knowledgeable Christians and Jews converted to Islam. Nobody has ever made this accusation of argument. The reasons obvious. Your interpretation never existed in history. Only modern Christians make this accusation and interpretation. They can’t defend their bible. It’s the easiest argument to use. Nobody has ever used it. Your theory is nonsensical. It’s just a tactic to avoid addressing the problems of your bible. You are the same guy who claims the Quran is inspired by Satan. You also claim that the Quran teacher to judge by the bible. This is how incoherent your claims are.🥴
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  539.  @chrisatspeakerscorner  I have a question. You are claiming that your interpretation is so obvious. Can you show me any Christian or Jew making this accusation on history? Can you show me any contemporary Christian or Jew accusing the prophet or making this argument? Can you show me any Christian or Jew making this accusation until modern times? It’s the easiest argument to use. No Christian in history ever used it. What’s your explanation for that? Only modern Christians have a brain?
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  540.  @oneandtruth  He is an incoherent person. He argues in bad faith. These are the claims this individual has made. You can see how he makes contradicting claims. 1 The Quran is inspired by Satan 2 the Quran teaches that Christians should follow the bible. 3 the Quran is copying the bible. 4 the Quran doesn’t know the bible 5 the Quran affirms the bible You can see how contradicting their claims are.
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  541.  @chrisatspeakerscorner  You are dodging my questions. You are claiming that the four gospels were used by the Christians. You are also claiming that the prophet taught that these four gospels are true. You also claim that the prophet taught that the Quran is true. Why aren’t these Christians making your accusation?🫠 Why is your accusation and argument completely absent from all Christians in history? They couldn’t understand the prophet? They couldn’t understand the positive affirmations?🫠 Your argument is not historical. You are desperate. That’s why you won’t engage with this historical logical question.
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  542.  @chrisatspeakerscorner  What does universal corruption even mean?🥴🤣 Inventing words to try to weasel yourself out of a solid refutation. There is corruption. That’s case closed. Christians didn’t only use the four gospels. That’s an a historical claim. We see from manuscript evidence that Christians used all sorts of gospels. The claim of a universal canon is a complete myth by modern Christians.
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  543.  @sura_65.4  We don’t claim a book.🤓 We claim revelation from the book. The Quran is called kitab before it was even written down on earth. It’s very clear that Chris is dodging my questions. My questions completely destroy his theory and argument. One day he will say that the Quran copies the bible. The next day he says the author of the Quran doesn’t know or read the bible.🥴🤣 One day he claims the Quran is inspired by Satan. The next day he say that this inspired book by ‘Satan’ says Thad Christians should follow the bible.🥴🤥 It’s very clear that he is incoherent and contradicts himself. I’m not surprised you are a fanboy of him. You don’t understand logic either. Let me get this straight. The prophet told Christians and Jews that both books are true. There is no Christian that asks why there are different stories? There is no Christian who asks how both stories can both be true? It’s completely absent from history. The reason is obvious. Nobody ever had your interpretation and understanding of those words. Chris can’t defend his bible. He tries to validate one of his bibles from the Quran to try to neutralise the claim of Muslims against his bibles.🫠 If a Christian runs to the Quran to try to validate their scripture. It simply mean he has thrown the towel. He gave up on the bible. He doesn’t believe it can be defended.🫠
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  544.  @oneandtruth  He doesn’t know this topic. I have seen him for a couple of years on YouTube. He made zero progress in knowledge.
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  545. Christians can’t win. Christians can’t defend that God became a baby. That’s why they are using these low level tactics of diversion and harassment.
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  546.  @gooseman4177  Is Jesus the triune god? Or is he another god?
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  547.  @solascriptura1536  Is Jesus the triune God? Or is he another God?
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  548.  @sura_65.4  The bible doesn’t even mention or know about a trinity.🥴🤣 You already fail at point 2.🥴🤣
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  549.  @sura_65.4  It does mention tawheed. It’s mentioned in chapter 112 of the one and only Quran. It’s also mentioned by word in the Hadith. My argument is not that the word trinity is not found in the bible. The whole concept is not found in the bible.🫠 Your early churchfathers all agree. They were not trinitarians.
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  550.  @sura_65.4  It is mentioned in chapter 112. Christians claim that God is a trinity. There is no Muslims that says that God IS tawheed. Muslims says that God is ahad. That’s in chapter 112 of the Quran.🫠 What is tawhid? Tawhid is that God is ahad.🫠 We don’t say God is tawheed. Check mate.🥴🤣
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  551.  @sura_65.4  It doesn’t matter what your views are if the Hadith. We accept them as our sources. We have tawheed by name in our accepted sources. You don’t have the trinity in your non authentic accepted sources.🥴🫠
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  552.  @billywink1210  Is entering into creation identical to incarnation?
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  553.  @billywink1210  If your god creates a dog. He must be in the dog?🥴 What kind of ‘logic’ is that? I have a question for you. Can the Father enter into creation? If the answer is yes. Why did he send his Son and not go himself to sacrifice himself?
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  554.  @billywink1210  Which bible do you accept?
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  555.  @billywink1210  Does your god throw people in hell? Does he love the ones he throws in hell?
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  556.  @billywink1210  It’s not a matter of translations. Your ‘translations’ are called versions. They are based on different manuscript tradition. The KJV uses different manuscript tradition. That’s why they haven’t thrown out the fabricated verse 1 John 5:7.
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  557.  @billywink1210  He LOVED them? Is that past tense?
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  558.  @billywink1210  Where does the Father enter creation?
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  559.  @billywink1210  How is your belief different from pantheism?
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  560. You have not engaged with his argument. Your argument is that the prophet said that both the bible and Quran are true. The Quran has different stories than in the bible. There is no Christian or Jew who confronted him over claiming that both the Quran and bible are true. This is your dilemma. It’s so OBVIOUS according to you. If it’s so obvious. How come no Christian or Jew ever made this accusation?🥴🤣
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  561.  @colinblackie9654  You don’t even understand the argument.🥴 His arguments stand irrelevant if the Quran is true or not. There is no circular reasoning. You are simply not engaging with the argument. That’s why Chris doesn’t play the video of Jake. It will expose him.
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  562.  @sura_65.4  You don’t even understand theology. You are all over the place. You are just like Chris. You are clueless in any field.
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  563.  @collybever  Your biblical authors are poor in theology. They copy pagan Greek philosophers. Paul doesn’t quote people send by god. He quotes pagan Greek philosophers as his highest authority.
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  564.  @colinblackie9654  He never made that argument. You can’t show me the timestamp. You are repeating your claim. Where is your evidence? In which minute did he claim that?🤥 Don’t repeat your claim. Show me the timestamp. There is a reason why Chris doesn’t let people speak for themselves. He tries to sell what others supposedly said.
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  565.  @colinblackie9654  You are just making stuff up. He didn’t presuppose anything. He even said let’s assume we don’t know who wrote the Quran. Correction is made in the eyes of the author what he believes is true. Jake didn’t assume the Quran is true for the argument. You can’t even follow an argument. Correction is made by the author by which he believes is true. Whether it’s really true or not os irrelevant. The author believes it’s true. That’s why he is correcting it. You have no answer. You are just responding to a complete misrepresentation of the argument of Jake. It proves that you have no answer for this solid argument.
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  566.  @colinblackie9654  You are not responding to the argument. You are deflecting. I will repeat the argument of Jake. The author or the Quran corrects the bible based on what he believes is true. He corrects details that are found in passages in bible. The author of the Quran knows these passages in the bible and corrects them based on what he believes is true. How can he claim both are true?🥴🤣
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  567.  @colinblackie9654  He never made that argument. I just wrote his argument. You can’t respond to the argument. Trying to misrepresent people as a tactic to avoid addressing the argument.
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  568.  @colinblackie9654  I didn’t make that claim. Christians can’t read. I never said the author of the Quran believes both the Quran and bible are true. I’ve said that Christians claim that. You are right. This is a contradiction. The contradiction is in the position of Christians. The author of the Quran corrects the bible in details. That’s why he doesn’t believe the bible is true. You have finally understood the argument of Jake. You agree with him.🤣 You agree that the position of Christians is a contradiction.
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  569.  @sura_65.4  That’s not the same thing. It’s called an internal critique. Assuming that we don’t know who wrote the. Quran for the sake of argument. The author of the Quran corrects the bible based on what he BELIEVES is true. It’s irrelevant for the argument if his beliefs are really true or not. The point is that he doesn’t agree with the bible and corrects the bible in detailed passages. Colin black is just agreed. He agrees that the Christian position is a contradiction. He agrees with Jake.
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  570.  @colinblackie9654  You have agreed. We have established that the author of the Quran corrects the bible in details. It is hard evidence that he doesn’t believe the bible is true. Why would someone make corrections if he believes something is true?🥴🤣 What is the Christian answer? They claim that the author of the Quran didn’t know what is in the bible. This answer is illogical. The author of the Quran corrects the bible in details.🫠 There is another major issue with the claim of Christians. They claim that the prophet preached that both the Quran and bible are true. How is this possible?🥴🤣 Christians would have immediately confronted him and asked how both can be true while having different stories of the same even. We have never seen any Christian in history making this argument. Do you know why? Your interpretation of the Quran never existed in history. It’s a modern Christian claim because Christians gave up on their bible and can’t defend the bible. They want the Quran to confirm the bible to try to neutralise Muslims. The same Christians claim the Quran is inspired by Satan at the same time.🥴🤣 It proves how incoherent Christians are. It proves how they argue in bad faith.
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  571.  @sura_65.4  I never made the claim. I never claimed the author of the Quran believes the bible is true. He just made that up. I said that Christians say this. He just admitted that there is a contradiction in the claim of Christians. He proved my point. You can’t even read. He can’t read either. You can’t even follow a logical argument.🥴🤣
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  572.  @colinblackie9654  You have conceded my point. You admitted that there is a contradiction in the claim of Christians. They claim the author of the Quran believes the Quran and bible are true. You laughed at this. You proved my point.🫠
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  573. Do you mean numbers 31:17?
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  574.  @lesliewilliam3777  You are funny. You can’t even provide a methodology to verify if any prophet in your bible really said that.🥴🤣
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  575. The trinity is three gods.
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  576.  @lesliewilliam3777  It’s not circular reasoning. The Quran says your scriptures are corrupted. It gives reasons outside the Quran why it’s corrupted. You don’t have to be a Islam or believe in the Quran to know that your scriptures are not preserved. You can’t even show a methodology to verify if any prophet in your bible really said that. You know that. That’s why you run to the Quran to avoid addressing the huge problem with your scriptures.🫠
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  577.  @gavinjames1145  There is no such thing as the ‘bible’. There are bibles. These bibles contain books. Books that copy from eachother and other sources. You are projecting. You are tying to take your bible as a criteria of truth.🥴🤣
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  578.  @gavinjames1145  Your buddy hasn’t addressed the arguments. He is in repetition mode and ignored all the Hadith that Farid provided. Hadith that explicitly say that your scriptures are corrupted. I wonder why Chris ignores this. The same Chris that appeared to other Hadith and twisted it ignores clear cut Hadith that literally says that your scriptures are corrupted and can’t be trusted.🫠
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  579.  @mudaaa1015  You don’t use your brain. Let’s see how your ‘brain’ works. This is your argument. 1 the Quran is inspired by Satan. 2 the Quran advises Christians to judge by the bible. What does this tell you. You are claiming that Satan advises Christians to judge by the bible.🥴🤣 This is all you need to know about your ‘argument.’ This is your dilemma. I have other dilemmas. The NT contradicts the OT. The NT affirms the OT. You have a problem.🥴🤣 Your definition of the Injeel and Tawrat doesn’t exist in the Quran. You have to invent definitions to try to make your weak ‘argument work’.🥴🤣 Your real position is a real dilemma. The position of Muslims is not a dilemma. We reject your bible.🫠
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  580.  @gavinjames1145  This is false.🫠 Even non Muslim scholars in Islamic studies don’t make this claim. Even they demonstrate that chapter 112 is a line for line refutation of the Nicean creed. The author of the Quran is aware of the Nicean creed. Chapter 112 is a line for line refutation of the Nicean creed. You can read the work of scholar Neuwirth. Nowhere does the Quran claim that the three you mentioned are the trinity. Only trinitarians make this claim. Trinitarians are weak individuals. They can’t defend the bible or the trinity. What do they do when they are confronted with real and valid logical objections against their real position. They try to impose positions on others to run away from real positions. It only proves that you have thrown the towel in the ring. You don’t believe in Christianity.🫠
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  581.  @gavinjames1145  There is no dilemma. Christians presuppose one scripture. Christians presuppose that their books in the bible are Injeel and tawrat. Even if we would accept that complete fallacy. The evidence on the ground doesn’t support Christians. Christians used all sorts of different books. Christians try to use back project their 16th century canon into history. They take Christianity as a criteria of truth. That’s why Chris can’t formulate a logical argument.🥴🤣
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  582.  @gavinjames1145  The prophet didn’t understand or know the trinity? But you claim there is a trinity in the Quran.🥴🤣 That’s why all people laugh at you. The more you talk. The more you refute yourself.
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  583.  @gavinjames1145  There is no topic. Your arguments are terrible and weak. Chris is claiming that the author of the Quran confirmed your scriptures but didn’t know what is in your scriptures.🥴🤣 You are claiming that he knew what’s in the bible and was copying it.🤣 You are all over the place. Which one is it? Did he know what is in the bible? Or he didn’t know? If your claim is that he didn’t know. That can easily be refuted. His whole ‘argument’ relies on complete ignorance of the bible.🤣 The Quran literally corrects details in the bible.
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  584.  @mudaaa1015  The definition of the Injeel in the Quran destroys your argument. 🫠 Christians have to invent non existing definitions in the Quran as a tactic to avoid addressing the problems with their scripture.🫠
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  585.  @mudaaa1015  He didn’t confirm a corrupted book. He confirmed true revelation. The Quran is also called kitab before it was written down on earth. It refers to revelation from the book (writing) in heaven. The definition of the Injeel in the Quran is revelation given to Isa. That destroys your whole claim. Your definition doesn’t exist in the Quran. You made it up. You try to make an argument based on false definitions. Why are Christians doing this? Because they can’t defend their scripture. They try to run away from it with these deceptive tactics. They will tell you at the same time that the Quran is inspired by Satan. ‘Satan’ confirms your bible?🥴🤣 ‘Satan’ advises Christian’s to judge by the bible?🥴🤣 This shows your true colours. You argue in bad faith. That’s why your claims are logical contradictions.
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  586.  @mudaaa1015  You are diverting. You invented a non existent definition. You build your whole ‘argument’ on this.🥴🤥
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  587.  @gavinjames1145  The Quran does correct the bible. It even corrects the bible on details. You can’t claim he didn’t know the details if he is correcting details. The position that he heard stories is absolutely ridiculous. Even if you don’t accept the Quran are the words of god. You can’t claim the author of the Quran didn’t have knowledge of the scriptures of Jews and Christians. I can give you many examples of corrected details. This is your dilemma.
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  588.  @mudaaa1015  You are waffling. You believe the Quran is inspired by Satan. You also claim that the Quran says that Christians should judge by the bible. You are basically arguing that Satan says that Christians have to judge by the bible.🥴🤣 That’s how incoherent Christians are. You are refuting yourself.
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  589.  @gavinjames1145  I will give you one example. There are many other examples. You can compare verse 20:22 in the Quran with Exodus 4:6. The Quran explicitly says that the hand did not become diseased. Exodus 4:6 says that the hand becomes diseased. The Quran emphasis that it didn’t become diseased. The bible claims it became diseased. Both affirm that the hand came out white. The Quran is correcting the bible that it became diseased. Your theory makes no sense. Jews and Christians converted to Islam. Nobody ever made the claim or argument that the Quran confirms their scripture. They are conflicting stories. Nobody said to the prophet. ‘You said that our bible is preserved. In the Quran it has different narratives than in the bible. How can both be true.’ This theory is nonsensical. It’s the easiest argument to use. Nobody ever used it. Why was this never used? Because your interpretation is nonsensical.
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  590.  @mudaaa1015  You can keep repeating this nonsensical claim. It’s not becoming true by repeating it and using emoticons. The same guy who claims the Quran is inspired by Satan. The same guy wants you to believe that the Quran teaches that Christians should follow the bible. That’s how incoherent your claims are. It proves that you argue in bad faith. You only make this claim because you can’t defend your scriptures. A Christian who tries to run to the Quran for validation. He is simply throwing the towel and gave up on his scriptures.
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  591.  @gavinjames1145  You have not responded to my arguments. You are only repeating your refuted claim. ‘Such minor details narrative differences are typical in oral retellings.’ That’s not an argument. That’s an assertion. You are claiming that the prophet didn’t know details. Now you are telling that he does know details. The author of the Quran clearly disagrees knowingly. There is not a single Christian or Jew who asks why both can be true. Your theory is nonsensical. It’s the easiest argument to use. Nobody ever used it.
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  592.  @gavinjames1145  That verse doesn’t confirm their scripture. Scripture is not even mentioned. ‘Believe in what I have SENT DOWN.’ Your bible is not sent down. It only confirms revelation. There are no physical books sent down.
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  593.  @gavinjames1145  You are not addressing the argument. You keep refusing to engage with the argument. You claim that the prophet heard these stories. He preaches the Quran to Jews and Christians. Nobody ever argued how both can be true. Nobody ever believed that the Quran affirms their bible. They would have immediately used this ‘argument’. ‘How can you claim both scriptures are true at the same time.’ Nobody ever made this claim or argument. Only modern Christians make this argument and claim. Because they can’t defend their bible.
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  594.  @gavinjames1145  The Quran is called kitab. It’s called kitab before it was written down on earth. The word kitab is not mentioned in the verse. Even if it was mentioned in the verse. It doesn’t necessarily is a physical book on earth. Why are the Christians and Jews called the people of the book (singular) and not books (plural)? Book is not even a correct translation. Kitab means writing. It refers to the written decrees in the lawh Al Mahfouz. Revelation has been sent down (nazala) through the angel from the tablet. There are no physical books that came from the sky. Your interpretation is nonsensical.
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  595.  @gavinjames1145  You are repeating your refuted claim. It’s called people of the book singular. How can book be singular if you are claiming multiple physical scriptures? Why are Jews and Christian’s not called people of the books plural? They don’t accept the same scripture. Christians and Jews don’t accept the same scriptures (plural). How can they be the people of the same book? Because it refers to the written (kataba) decrees in heaven. I have already demonstrated that kitab doesn’t necessarily mean a physical book on earth. The Quran is called kitab when it was orally preached. There was no physical book. The Quran refers to the Quran as kitab before it was written down on earth. The passage does mention kitab in a couple of verses later. You don’t know this. You have never read the Quran. All your claims come from Christian websites.
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  596.  @gavinjames1145  That’s not an argument. You have completely ignored all my arguments. You my have no response. Your theory is incoherent. If your theory would be true. We would find many Christians and Jews making this argument in history. We don’t find any Jew or Christian who ever made this argument. They would have immediately confronted him with this claim. We don’t see that. Do you know why? Your interpretation never existed in history.
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  597.  @gavinjames1145  You deny to be a Christian or Jew. But you keep mentioning ‘the bible’.🥴 There is no such thing as ‘the bible’. Manuscript evidence shows the complete opposite. It shows that Christians and Jews used many different books and texts. Your claim is completely refuted by the hard evidence on the ground. The earliest manuscript that corresponds with the 16th century canon is from the 11th century ce. It’s not even complete. It could have contained books that are not accepted. You are a cultural Christian. Don’t pretend you are an objective person. You are on Christian apologists channels. You take Jay Smith and Mel as knowledgeable people. You are a Muslim hater. You won’t ever concede. That’s why you ignored my argument. If your theory is true. We would have seen all Christians in history making this claim. Let’s not forget about the converts from Christianity to Islam. They would immediately make this claim. We don’t find this claim. It’s because your interpretation never existed. It’s only a modern accusation. You can’t show me historical evidence that your accusation is ever made.
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  598.  @gavinjames1145  You don’t even know grammar.
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  599.  @gavinjames1145  You don’t have an answer. You have no answer or responds to my refutation. If your theory is correct. We would expect all Christians and Jews making this accusation. This accusation is never found in history. It’s game over for you. Are you claiming only modern Christians have a brain?🥴🤣
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  600.  @lesliewilliam3777  I’m not Paul of Tarsus.
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  601.  @lesliewilliam3777  Christianity is circular reasoning. Christians who use Christianity as a criteria of truth in each ‘argument.’🤓
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  602.  @exmuslimAlonzoHarris  It can’t refer to multiple books on earth. It refers to one writing. That one writing is the tablet in heaven from which revelation has been sent down (nazala).🫠
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  603.  @BringMeTheProof  Paul is a pagan. He doesn’t quote prophets. He quotes and plagiarises from pagan Greek philosophers who believe in dying and rising gods.
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  604. Chris made an admission. He admits there are many errors in the bible.
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  605.  @aleksakovacevic3350  You should talk to Chris. He just admitted that you would find many errors in the bible because it’s from fallible humans.🤣
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  606. These Christians believe in three gods.
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  607. David Wood believes in three gods. He lost every debate. Even Christians find him a poor debater. He can only make meme videos trying to be funny. If he is your ‘knowledgeable’ Christian. I feel sorry for Christianity.🥴🤣
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  608. The trinity is three gods.
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  609.  @collybever  Isaurian believes in three gods. He couldn’t provide a theological objection. Your religion is to weak to challenge us in theology. He came up with ‘arguments’ that atheists use against Christians. Isaurian argues like an atheist. He takes his religion as granted. A typical Chrwho likes to presuppose his own position and use it to attack others. You can’t logically explain your theology. That’s why the atheists defeated you in the west. You are still worshipping them.
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  610. There is no such thing as ‘The Bible’. This is a complete myth. You can’t even define what ‘The Bible’ is. You are still using this meaningless word as a tactic to avoid proving and defining your words. The Muslim scholars never mentioned ‘the bible’. It doesn’t even exist. If you claim ‘the bible’ exists. You should define what it means and give justification and arguments for it. You haven’t done that. You want people to see past your smokescreen.🥴🤣
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  611. Do you mean your bible? Do you mean numbers 31:17? Do you condemn numbers 31:17? Is this your culture?
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  612. @ Do you condemn numbers 31:17? Yes or no?
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  613.  @abgdevzt6495  Do you condemn the verse? Is it a good or bad command from your god?
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  614.  @NCSiebertdesign  Do you condemn that command? Was it a good command to wipe out an ethnicity based on ethnicity?
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  615.  @abgdevzt6495  You are twisting the verse. The verse is a command to take everyone out. It’s a command to take innocent children out. Do you condemn this? This command is given to take out an ethnicity.
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  616.  @gareth645  What did the children do? We’re little male babies also involved in evil acts?
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  617.  @abgdevzt6495  Do you condemn that? You accept that your god commands genocide?
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  618.  @chrisballen7851  Do you condemn numbers 31:17?
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  619.  @Dave09-m4c  Moses is an evil man?
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  620.  @QueenQaffir  Do you condemn numbers 31:17? Yes or no?
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  621.  @QueenQaffir  You can take out all children based on ethnicity? That’s a good moral teaching?
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  622.  @Akpalonhebe07.  Word concept fallacy. If I write a verse from the Quran on a tree. That’s called Quran. It doesn’t mean the whole Quran is written on the tree. Christians use all sorts of fallacies because they can’t defend their bible. There is Injeel that is correct. There is also falsehood. There is no quantifier. You made up a quantifier.
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  623.  @MassDefeq  That’s not an authentic Hadith. You don’t even understand the difference between a prophet and a messenger. You think both were given books.
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  624.  @MassDefeq  The Hadith is not authentic. That’s like me using the apocrypha against Christians. Do you have a logical argument instead of these fallacies.
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  625.  @dayamra9747  You do claim that you have the words of Jesus. You can’t even show us a methodology for verification and authentication.
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  626.  @Akpalonhebe07.  There is no dilemma. It’s your problem. Your salvation depends on what you claim the words of Jesus are. Our salvation doesn’t depend on it. It is your problem. You are failing to prove or show us a methodology.
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  627.  @Akpalonhebe07.  We have a methodology. You don’t even have a methodology. I can simply prove that Christianity can’t preserve scripture or theology. You can’t prove that Christianity can preserve scripture and theology.
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  628.  @dayamra9747  That’s a belief. How do verify that? Christians claim to have the words of Jesus. Muslims don’t claim to have the speech of Moses. How do you know if Jesus really said something? What is your methodology and verification method?
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  629.  @MassDefeq  He didn’t intend to preserve it. How is that an argument?🥴
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  630.  @Akpalonhebe07.  Do you accept Hadith? If you accept the Hadith. You have accepted the Quran. If you don’t accept the hadith. Don’t use it. By using it you are verifying our methodology.
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  631.  @Akpalonhebe07.  You have proven out methodology. You have used Hadith as a criteria of truth. You have accepted the transmission. This means you have accepted the Quran. It’s based on the same methodology.
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  632.  @MassDefeq  Do you have the revelation given to Abraham? You don’t even believe in your own argument. You still accept what you believe Moses said about Abraham. The bible also mentions many lost books. Epistemology starts with god. We are not atheists. You have an atheistic approach of history. History is speculation. God is certainty.
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  633.  @dayamra9747  You are an atheist. You don’t believe words of god can be proven?🥴🤣 Why do you believe your god said some thing? It’s just blind belief? The Quran and Hadith don’t contain words of Moses. Moses didn’t speak Arabic. They contain the speech of god and the prophet. They are paraphrasing Moses. We can trace our scriptures back to the prophet and god unlike you. The Injeel is revelation. It’s not a physical book. ‘We have sent down the kitab.’ There are no such physical books sent down. You are incoherent. You want the Quran to confirm your bible. Because you can’t defend your bible. You believe at the same time that the Quran is a demonic book.🥴🤣
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  634. I have never seen a Christian win a debate. Your position is indefensible.
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  635. The trinity is three gods.
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  636.  @paladin5163  You are right. It’s in my head. Because the trinity doesn’t exist. Three gods don’t exist. Therefore it’s only in the head. Thank you for your admission.
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  637.  @GodIsLove1015  Is this a logical argument?🥴🤣 Is your bible clear? Why did it take many councils to come up with doctrines? We are not confused. You are confused. Christians have been debating for more than 700 years to come up with the trinity and hypostatic union. It took them many hundreds of years to define the used words in those councils on top of that.🤣
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  638.  @Old_Catholic  You don’t even know what knowledge is. Knowledge doesn’t exist in itself. Knowledge is passed down through transmission. How do you know how to read? Did you rely on teachers for this knowledge. You don’t even seem to understand what knowledge is. Your whole comment is silly.
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  639.  @Old_Catholic  How do you know it’s air? Who told you this? All this knowledge is passed down to you. Your ‘experiment’ relies on things that are passed down to you. You are making the most absurd claims. Your claims and arguments’ refute your own position. You rely on a book that you believe is transmitted.
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  640.  @maikilreategui1271  Siiig believes in three gods.
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  641.  @HeLpLOstGOdAny1  The reality is recorded on the videos where Bob physically assaults people.
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  642. It is a clear refutation. ‘We have to create opaque context.’🥴🤣 Is there one SELF or three SELVES in the trinity? Is polytheism one SELF or three SELVES?🫠
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  643. Chris believes in three gods.
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  644.  @Edwardthe208  The trinity is three gods.
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  645.  @albusai  Which bible do you accept?
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  646. Who is imposing himself in this video? Avery wants attention of popular Muslims to get money from weak Christians like you.
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  647. Chris believes in three gods.
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  648.  @thetersestorm3312  We don’t believe that. We don’t make these claims. You make the claim that three persons are fully the same god. But they are not eachother. That’s three gods. Your real position is three gods.
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  649.  @thetersestorm3312  You don’t even understand the trinity. Is the light fully sun? Is the heat fully sun? The answer is no. The persons are all fully god. You are giving me an analogy of partialism. This is condemned by the church as a heresy. I don’t have to make things up. I’m not you. I refute your actual theological position. The sura doesn’t claim a trinity. The verse doesn’t even mention a trinity. Just like verse 9:31 is not a quaternity. This verse says that rabbis and monks are taken as God. Even your desires can be taken as god in 45:23. What does taking as God mean? It means to try to take away from the power, qualities or attributes of God and attribute it to yourself or someone. This verse is addressing shirk. It has nothing to do with a trinity. This is just a Christian apologist move to try to run from their real theological position. It’s deflection. Even non Muslim scholars in Islamic studies don’t make your absurd claims. They have shown that chapter 112 is a line for line engagement with the Nicean creed. You can read the non Muslim scholar Neuwirth. I can use the same fallacy. I can use 1 Timothy 5:21 to argue for a trinity. I can use your silly criteria to claim that 1 Timothy teaches a different trinity.🥴 Why don’t you level up. Why don’t you debate and discuss real positions? Why do you always have to make up things and try to impose it on others when you have no answer for your own real position?🫠
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  650.  @thetersestorm3312  They are not fully sun. Nobody claims that the heat of the sun is fully sun. That’s my point. You skipped the core argument. What’s your answer for this? Your analogy is the heresy of partialism. The heat and light are not fully sun. The persons in the trinity are fully god. Your analogy fails. I have refuted your claim. You are still trying. You are trying to use cherry picked tafasir to spin them. They don’t claim a trinity. They are addressing polytheism. They are arguing against shirk. Only a trinitarian will use the trinity to impose interpretations in any text. Your approach is non academic. I have even given you an academic source. I have given you a non Muslim scholar. You would cry if I used a Muslim. You can’t refute the valid logical objections against the trinity. What do you do? You try to deflect. ‘Your Quran got the trinity wrong.’🥴 It’s so childish. Even your quote doesn’t claim this to be the trinity. I have already explained what taking as god means. The Quran is addressing the implications of the actions of Christians according to tawheed. The Quran doesn’t claim that Christians say that Jesus and Mary are God besides Allah. The Quran is addressing the implications of the actions of Christians according to the criteria of Tawheed. If you claim that God begets a Son. You have taken Jesus as God. If you claim that God came down to earth and gave birth to God. You have taken Mary as God. If you claim that Mary can hear you. You have taken Mary as God. The trinity is not found in the bible. You are using the trinity to ‘prove’ a trinity. Just like you are using ‘the trinity’ as a criteria to interpret the Quran. All you do is proof texting.
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  651.  @thetersestorm3312  They are not fully sun. Nobody claims that the heat of the sun is fully sun. That’s my point. You skipped the core argument. What’s your answer for this? Your analogy is the heresy of partialism. The heat and light are not fully sun. The persons in the trinity are fully god. Your analogy fails. I have refuted your claim. You are still trying. You are trying to use cherry picked tafasir to spin them. They don’t claim a trinity. They are addressing polytheism. They are arguing against shirk. Only a trinitarian will use the trinity to impose interpretations in any text. Your approach is non academic. I have even given you an academic source. I have given you a non Muslim scholar. You would cry if I used a Muslim. You can’t refute the valid logical objections against the trinity. What do you do? You try to deflect. ‘Your Quran got the trinity wrong.’🥴 It’s so childish. Even your quote doesn’t claim this to be the trinity. I have already explained what taking as god means. The Quran is addressing the implications of the actions of Christians according to tawheed. The Quran doesn’t claim that Christians say that Jesus and Mary are God besides Allah. The Quran is addressing the implications of the actions of Christians according to the criteria of Tawheed. If you claim that God begets a Son. You have taken Jesus as God. If you claim that God came down to earth and gave birth to God. You have taken Mary as God. If you claim that Mary can hear you. You have taken Mary as God. The trinity is not found in the bible. You are using the trinity to ‘prove’ a trinity. Just like you are using ‘the trinity’ as a criteria to interpret the Quran. All you do is proof texting.
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  652.  @thetersestorm3312  What is your answer? They are not fully sun. Nobody claims that the heat of the sun is fully sun. That’s my point. You skipped the core argument. What’s your answer for this? Your analogy is the heresy of partialism. The heat and light are not fully sun. The persons in the trinity are fully god. Your analogy fails. I have refuted your claim. You are still trying. You are trying to use cherry picked tafasir to spin them. They don’t claim a trinity. They are addressing polytheism. They are arguing against shirk. Only a trinitarian will use the trinity to impose interpretations in any text. Your approach is non academic. I have even given you an academic source. I have given you a non Muslim scholar. You would cry if I used a Muslim. You can’t refute the valid logical objections against the trinity. What do you do? You try to deflect. ‘Your Quran got the trinity wrong.’🥴 It’s so childish. Even your quote doesn’t claim this to be the trinity. I have already explained what taking as god means. The Quran is addressing the implications of the actions of Christians according to tawheed. The Quran doesn’t claim that Christians say that Jesus and Mary are God besides Allah. The Quran is addressing the implications of the actions of Christians according to the criteria of Tawheed. If you claim that God begets a Son. You have taken Jesus as God. If you claim that God came down to earth and gave birth to God. You have taken Mary as God. If you claim that Mary can hear you. You have taken Mary as God. The trinity is not found in the bible. You are using the trinity to ‘prove’ a trinity. Just like you are using ‘the trinity’ as a criteria to interpret the Quran. All you do is proof texting.
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  653.  @thetersestorm3312  My comment is deleted. You didn’t answer. The argument is that the heat and light are not fully sun. You have not responded to the argument. Even if the heat position proceeds from the sun. The heat is not fully sun. It is partialism. I gave you an academic source. I have explained what taking as God means. You went to a cherry picked tafsir to spin in. Even this tafsir doesn’t claim the trinity. He only says that two persons are TAKEN as God. He doesn’t claim that Christians confess that Jesus and Mary are God. He is addressing the theological implications of taken away some of the power and attributes of god and give it to other. Only a trinitarian will use ‘the trinity’ as a criteria to interpret the Quran or any tafsir. You don’t care. You do the same thing with churchfathers and the bible. You use the trinity as a criteria to ‘prove’ a trinity. It’s completely circular. It’s academic invalid. I gave you a non academic source. You have only given me Hassamo Shamoun level of ‘argumentation’ and spinning.
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  654.  @thetersestorm3312  My comments are deleted. I have made two comments against your silly comment.
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  655.  @thetersestorm3312  I will try again. The heat and light are not fully sun. The persons in the trinity are fully god. Your analogy is partialism. It doesn’t matter if the heat proceeds from the sun. The heat is not fully sun. Why don’t you respond to the argument? I gave you an academic source. You are still trying for a trinity with Mary in the Quran.🥴 Why don’t you respond to my argument and refutation. You went to a cherry picker tafsir. Even this tafsir doesn’t claim the trinity. That’s just your trinitarian spin. I have already explained what taking as God means. I gave other verses for internal evidence. You ignored it all. You are a trinitarian. You use the trinity as a criteria to interpret any text. The tafsir is adressering shirk and not ‘The trinity’. The Quran never claims that Christians claim that Jesus and Mary are part of the trinity. The Quran is addressing the theological implications (shirk) of your actions. That’s the reason why you ignored the academic source. You are just repeating low level Hassamo Shamoun articles. If he is so sure about it. Why don’t you publish academic papers on the subject? They will laugh at you. You can only operate in the sewers of internet.
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  656.  @thetersestorm3312  You did that. You cherry picked a tafsir. You have never read this tafsir book. You just cherry pick quotes and isolate them. You impose your trinitarian meaning on these cherry picked quotes. This is supposed to be an academic approach? You claim there is only one trinity. You claim at the same time ‘a trinity’. Your quotes don’t claim this is The Trinity. They are addressing shirk. They don’t claim that all Christians claim that Jesus and Mary are God. They measure their actions against the criteria of the oneness of god in Islam. It doesn’t matter what you think. The Quran is not a Christian book. The Quran is a book of guidance. It judges people based on the oneness of god. The theology is tawheed. That’s the criteria by which the actions of Christians are measured. Your actions are a violation of the oneness of god according to tawheed. That’s what the Quran is saying. You are trying to use trinitarian theology to judge the Quran.🥴 How is that an academic and objective approach?
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  657.  @thetersestorm3312  I didn’t loose. I have refuted your analogy. You don’t seem to have an answer. The heat and light are not fully sun. You didn’t respond to this. What did you do? You try to deflect with Hassamo Shamoun level of deflection. Because you can’t defend your actual theological position. You deflect to childish deflection that the Quran got the trinity supposedly wrong. This is a common tactic of Christians. They can’t respond to the valid logic objections against your theological position. You want to keep Muslims busy with a non relevant deflection topics to try to run away from the core doctrines for salvation. Even if a muslim provides a non Muslim Islamic source to refute you. You still continue with your absurd claims for deflection purposes. That’s all you do. You run from real theological positions. You want to waste people time with irrelevant topics. That’s what people of falsehood do. They run away from theology. They want to keep you busy with irrelevant topics for salvation.
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  658. Thats not the trinity. That’s a heresy. It’s called partialism.
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  659.  @OpenEnjoyer  There is only one human nature. We don’t count one human being. We count multiple human beings.
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  660.  @CosmicalChrist  Christians are not literate. You can be illiterate if you get knowledge from the most knowledgeable being. Christians are illiterate and take knowledge from uneducated people. What are you trying to say? Are you trying to argue that there is only one human being on the planet? You should stop with your fallacious arguments. Why don’t you pick a position. Is there one human being on the planet? Or are there billions of human beings on the planet? Which one is true. They can’t be both true at the same time. What is your answer?
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  661.  @CosmicalChrist  What is your position? Is there one human being or billion human beings on the planet? Which one is true?
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  662.  @theastronomer5800  You have never read the works of the mufasirun. You are trying to project your ignorance onto others. I have a question for you. Are you saying that no human being in history could understand what the prophet or mufasirun said? You also claim it’s so obvious in our sources. If it’s so obvious. How come nobody in history made this accusation? How come not a single Christian in history ever made this argument ? How come no contemporary 7th century Christian or Jew made this argument and accusation? It’s the easiest argument to use if your theory is correct. What is your explanation? Christians in history didn’t have a brain? Only modern Christians have a brain?🥴
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  663.  @CosmicalChrist  I have asked you a question. Do you believe there is only one human being on the planet? Or do you believe there are billions of human beings on the planet?
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  664.  @theastronomer5800  You have never read this works. I have a question for you. You claim that your theory is so obvious from our sources. How come your accusation has never been used in history? If it’s so obvious. How come we don’t find any Christian or Jew confronting the prophet? How come we don’t find any Christian or Jew making this claim before modern times? What is your explanation?
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  665.  @CosmicalChrist  You don’t understand the problem. The problem with the trinity is not singularity and plurality at the same time. Nobody makes this argument. I don’t understand why you are trying to discuss this. I think most people accept that god is one in one way and multiple in other ways. We believe he has real distinct attributes and properties. Nobody claims these attributes are persons or ‘fully god’. That’s when the problem with the trinity starts. It’s a logical problem. You claim that each person is FULLY God. They are not eachother and yet there is one god. That’s not how gods are counted. Poseidon, Hades and Zeus are three selves. Three selves are three gods. Why should we apply a non existing counting method for the trinity other than trying to avoid tritheism? What your logical justification? If your argument is that you believe it’s revealed. Therefore you believe it. At least admit that you have no logical justification. But you believe it because you believe it’s revealed from god. This is not how Christians argue. They claim that there is no LOGICAL problem. If we point the logical contradiction out. They appeal to revelation. That’s fine. But that’s not a LOGICAL solution for the problem.
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  666.  @CosmicalChrist  Why is that ridiculous? You don’t believe god is one by necessity? You don’t believe God is the necessary being? You can count however you want. You have no logical justification to do that. That’s all we are pointing out. You are forced to do this special pleading. If we count by identity there are three gods. You can at least admit this. You can say that the trinity is three gods if you count by identity. You can continue to say that you don’t count by identity because you believe this is revealed to you. That would be a sincere answer. Don’t pretend others have no logical argument against your doctrines. Your second question is a good question. You are presupposing that time and eternality are the opposite. ‘Eternality means timeless.’ I reject this false presupposition. I believe time is an attribute of god. I don’t believe in a frozen god who can’t do anything. I believe in a god who can act in succession. People who hold to the position that god is timeless claim that god can’t act in succession. They believe he has only one divine act. When the bible says that god created the universe in six days. They do a reinterpretation of these verse. They say that god didn’t really create in six days. When the bible says that god spoke on certain days to prophets. These people claim that god didn’t really speak to prophets on these days. The same people try to argue that god incarnated in time. Christians have different positions in these topics. Muslims have different positions. Every religion has discussions how god is related to creation or how god is not related to creation.
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  667. Chris believes in three gods.
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  668.  @orthodoxia.occidentalis  Christianity is a logical contradiction.
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  669.  @albrechtryan7799  How old is your God? How old is Mary? What’s their age difference? What was he doing in Mary?
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  670.  @eucharistenjoyer  We don’t believe that. We believe that god can’t be a logical contradiction. Do you believe your god can be a logical contradiction? The trinity and incarnation are logical contradictions. Distinct attributes and properties don’t make one self more selves. Multiple attributes and properties don’t violate the oneness. Is your trinity one self or three selves? Is monotheism one self or more selves?
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  671.  @orthodoxia.occidentalis  The trinity and incarnation are logical contradictions.
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  672.  @orthodoxia.occidentalis  Why is your ‘god’ called a stone? Why is your biblical Jesus named after the anointed bethel stone of Jacob?🥴 Is Jacob a polytheist in your bible?🥴🤣
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  673.  @orthodoxia.occidentalis  Why is your god called a stone?🥴 He is literally named after the anointed bethel stone. If touching a stone is polytheism. This means your bible is full of polytheism. Your mangod is named after the bethel stone of Jacob.🫠
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  674.  @eucharistenjoyer  I don’t believe in divine simplicity. My objections haven’t been debunked. Christian analytical philosophers are still trying to solve these contradictions till this day. Why is the incarnation a logical contradiction? One persoon has contradicting properties. He is all knowing and not all knowing at the same time. He is uncreated and created at the same time. I can go on and on. Why haven’t you answered my questions?
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  675.  @eucharistenjoyer  He is named after the foundation stone. That’s the bethel. It’s all over your bible. You want to accuse others and ignore your bible.
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  676.  @eucharistenjoyer  Do you accept scholarly sources?
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  677.  @Cheeky_Sheikhy  You can pray and fart at the same time. It’s perfectly fine in Christianity. I’m not jealous about that.🥴🤣
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  678.  @Redsok  Do you accept chains of transmission? Yes or no? Four Qiraat have chains that go through Ibn Masud. If you reject Chains of transmission. You should stop using cherry picked reports through chains of transmission. Before you even try to argue about preservation. What is your definition and methodology for preservation. You are running a script. You can’t even formulate a logical argument. You will try to deflect from my questions. The moment we go in depth. You run away. That’s typical Christian behaviour. They only want to shout. They can’t defend or justify any of their claims.
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  679. You believe in three gods.
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  680.  @nathanthedisciple  You believe in three gods. You affirm that three persons are fully god. Muslims only affirm that Allah is god. You believe in three gods. You can’t defend your real theological position. You have to try to impose positions on others. Three selves are three gods. You believe in three gods.
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  681.  @Jon-Doe-2nd  Christians are in doubt. They can’t even answer simple theological questions. Is the trinity one self or three selves? You will run away. You are not sure what to answer. You can’t even make up your mind if god is one self or three selves.🥴🤣
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  682.  @nathanthedisciple  It’s not irony. I can demonstrate that you believe in three gods. Is the trinity one self or three selves? Is one god one self or three selves? Why don’t you answer this simple question. You will avoid it to avoid admitting three gods. That’s all you do. You deflect from real theological discussions. You runaway from theology. You will discuss anything but theology. Because you know a child can refute your theological position.
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  683.  @QueenQaffir  You believe in three gods. I can demonstrate that. Is the trinity one self or three selves? Prove that you don’t believe in three gods by giving a straight answer.
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  684.  @chr_my  Paul is a pagan.
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  685. Chris believes in three gods.
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  686.  @helman41  What did he say? Did he make an argument?🥴
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  687.  @theonejesusloved7379  Is your bible clear? Yes or no? You can’t say yes. Christians have different interpretations about the bible. Is the US law clear? Jurists are arguing about us law. Nothing can be clear according to you.
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  688.  @theonejesusloved7379  Is it clear or not? Is your bible clear or not? A book has to make the claim if it’s clear or not to be clear or not?🥴 You can’t answer the question. I’m questioning the false presupposition in your invalid question. This is your argument. 1 something can only be clear if there is no disagreement or different interpretations. 2 Muslims have different interpretations 3 therefore it can’t be clear. This is your ‘argument’.🥴🤣 Any logician will laugh at your ‘argument’. I’m using your own false presupposition against your bible. 1 something can only be clear if there is no disagreement or different interpretations. 2 Christians have different interpretations of the bible. 3 therefore the bible is not clear. You have thrown your bible under the bus. Christians are so brilliant.🤣
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  689.  @Coptic-2024  I have never been on the streams of Radar. Radar believes in three gods. He copied the non educated Michael Brown. He pretends to bring new content. Radar believes in three gods.
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  690.  @cldrawings1224  Why should they come to your channels? You can go to their channels. If you want to debate. He can come tonight on the stream. Hassamo is a chicken. He can only bully kids from his kitchen while kissing feet and folding in reality.
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  691. Your definition doesn’t exist. The definition of the Quran includes the readings. The definition of ‘the bible’ doesn’t include other versions and canons. You can’t even speak of ‘the bible’. You can’t even show us a methodology to verify if Jesus or any of your prophets said anything. Qiraat has nothing to do with preservation. Preservation is based on chains of transmission. Chris is an uneducated Christian apologist. He can’t even formulate a logical argument.
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  692.  @inquisitivemind007  Chris didn’t make a point. He is just waffling. He is also trying to strawman Soliman. Soliman said that the prophet abrogated it. Chris claims that Soliman claims that the companions abrogated it. Chris is deliberately trying to strawman Soliman. What have Ahruf and Qiraat got to do with preservation? How is this related to preservation? All Muslims agree on the chains of transmission all the way back to the prophet. He is just waffling.
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  693.  @inquisitivemind007  Is this a serious question? Chris didn’t make any point. He is only waffling. Did he present a methodology to measure preservation? The answer is no. If a text is transmitted through chains of transmission. They all accept it. But they disagree what the ahruf exactly are? How does that disprove the transmission through chains?🥴🤣 How is this even related? Chris is only making assertions and claims. He has no logical justification for his claims. Did he present a methodology by which to measure? The answer is no. He talks about Uthman. How does he know about Uthman? Does he accept the chains of transmission that tells him about Uthman. If the answer is yes. He has debunked his whole claim. The Qiraat are also transmitted through chains of transmission. This means he has accepted the Qiraat. Your movement is incoherent.
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  694.  @inquisitivemind007  Why don’t you call him? Is Chris your ‘expert’? Or do you know a more ‘knowledgeable’ person to challenge? Is Chris the best you got? I want you to send your best people. I don’t want you to dismiss this low iq individual after he gets schooled again.
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  695.  @YeshuaAkbar7  The bible has no witnesses.
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  696.  @coltonconner782  You can’t even present a methodology to verify sayings. You already fail at the first condition. Christianity can’t preserve scripture or doctrines. That can easily be proven.
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  697.  @coltonconner782  Do you accept the Dead Sea scrolls as your bible?
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  698.  @cartoonmo5976  I have spanked you so many times. You can’t even provide a methodology. You are not jot educated.
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  699.  @RIS3N1  There is no such thing as The Bible. This is just a Christian myth. I’m not even talking about ‘the bible’. You have no methodology to verify if a prophet really said something. The bibles are not preserved. Even if they were preserved. These combinations of books were chosen much later. It still doesn’t go back to Jesus.
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  700. The trinity is three gods. You are a mushriq.
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  701. @ThePrimusCrusader We must mean multiple persons?🥴🤣 Only trinitarians come up with these silly interpretations because they can’t defend the trinity. No other group makes your absurd claims. Why is that? You can’t defend your religion. You want to strawman others because you have no logical arguments for your incoherent position.
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