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Comments by "" (@AlonzoHarris235) on "TheDeenShowTV talks about the Quran Contradictions" video.
Chris believes in three gods.
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You copied this out of context text from non academic garbage websites. As suturing confirmed the Quran. He is talking about the abrogated verses. They are also Quran but not applicable anymore. Keep trying to twist the views of people for your Paulien ideology.
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He didn’t claim that. Christians love to strawman people for Paul.
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@toddbeamer6131 How do you know about Uthman? Who told you? Do you rely on chains of transmission? The same chains of transmission you reject for the Quran.🤥🤥
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@inquisitivemind007 You are cherry picking. You accept the chains of transmission for the reports about Uthman. The chains of transmission from our sources. But you reject the chains of transmission for the Quran from our sources. You are just cherry picking and inconsistent. Because you can’t even present a methodology for preservation. If your methodology is textual transmission. You shouldn’t use chains of transmission at all. You shouldn’t even mention uthman. Before you even try to challenge preservation. Why don’t you present a methodology first instead of cherry picking from our sources. Discussing what the ahruf are. That has nothing to do with preservation. Preservation is based on chains of transmission. Chris is waffling. He is also twisting the words of Soliman.
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@inquisitivemind007 Chris is not a man. He is a waffler. Soliman claims in this video that the prophet abrogated it. Chris claims that Soliman claims that the companions abrogated it. He claims this immediately after the video where Soliman mentions the prophet and not the companions. He is even twisting in this video. Your whole movement relies on twisting, misrepresenting and arguing in bad faith. Chris doesn’t even have a methodology for preservation to try to refute preservation. You don’t have it either. How can you talk about preservation if you don’t even have a methodology for preservation? Disagreement what the ahruf are is not evidence that something is not preserved. This is a complete fallacy. How did Chris demonstrate that? You only have assertions and claims without any methodology to measure.
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@inquisitivemind007 Why don’t you contact him? Is Chris your expert?🥴🤣 He can’t even formulate a logical argument. 1 ‘Muslims disagree on the ahruf.’ 2 ‘therefore the Quran is not preserved.’ This is basically your argument. It’s embarrassing.
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@inquisitivemind007 Chris didn’t make a point. He is just waffling. He is also trying to strawman Soliman. Soliman said that the prophet abrogated it. Chris claims that Soliman claims that the companions abrogated it. Chris is deliberately trying to strawman Soliman. What have Ahruf and Qiraat got to do with preservation? How is this related to preservation? All Muslims agree on the chains of transmission all the way back to the prophet. He is just waffling.
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@inquisitivemind007 Is this a serious question? Chris didn’t make any point. He is only waffling. Did he present a methodology to measure preservation? The answer is no. If a text is transmitted through chains of transmission. They all accept it. But they disagree what the ahruf exactly are? How does that disprove the transmission through chains?🥴🤣 How is this even related? Chris is only making assertions and claims. He has no logical justification for his claims. Did he present a methodology by which to measure? The answer is no. He talks about Uthman. How does he know about Uthman? Does he accept the chains of transmission that tells him about Uthman. If the answer is yes. He has debunked his whole claim. The Qiraat are also transmitted through chains of transmission. This means he has accepted the Qiraat. Your movement is incoherent.
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@inquisitivemind007 Why don’t you call him? Is Chris your ‘expert’? Or do you know a more ‘knowledgeable’ person to challenge? Is Chris the best you got? I want you to send your best people. I don’t want you to dismiss this low iq individual after he gets schooled again.
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