Comments by "LancesArmorStriking" (@LancesArmorStriking) on "The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder"
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@jlighter1
The answer there is simple. It pledged, in 2008, to make both Ukraine and Georgia full NATO members.
You might not agree that Russia was forced to do anything, but from its own perspective, that potential state of affairs was unacceptable.
If you want a counter-example, the US was "forced" to threaten nuclear war over nuclear missiles in Cuba.
Cuba is also a sovereign nation, and the US had no issues stationing Jupiter missiles in Turkey, but freaked out when the shoe was on the other foot. In that moment, from the US point of view, Cuba had to be forced against its will.
It's a simple reality— alliances don't exist in a vacuum; there isn't a reality where "every state has the right to join any alliance it wants!".
That's not how any state has ever acted in history, and you're ridiculous for thinking Russia or any other country should act that way.
Especially after what NATO did in Libya (no Article 5 trigger), it's not a defensive alliance. It's a de facto arm of the US military, and it's extremely dangerous.
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@SeanCrosser
I think a key difference in those arguments is the dynamic between either side in each analogy.
The USSR collapsed on 1991, and NATO had no functional reason to continue existing.
Russians are (at least in European Russia) truly native to the area, so the argument can't be made they're occupiers who need to be expelled.
Russia wanted to be integrated into the West, but instead of mass capital investment (akin to West Germany postwar) it was robbed— US Treasury employees served as advisors to Moscow under Yeltsin's new government, and through their policies the entire post-Soviet region fell into comical levels of poverty.
Russians (and many other post-Soviet countries) have genuine reason to be wary of US influence.
NATO, in their analogy, predates Russia and its member states genuinely harmed Russia's civilian population. Russia was reacting to an already existent force at play. It, in Russia's view, is an aggrieved party.
Israel, on the other hand, created its own strife. Yes, it's surrounded by neighbors who hate its very existence— but they want to because Israel commited atrocities to even begin existing in the region, and has territorial claims against most of its neighbors.
You could say the same is true of Russia— but Russia's impetus for expansion is to achieve political stability.
Israel, meanwhile, could achieve political stability by adhering to its 1967 borders— but refuses to, because that's not its actual primary goal. It wants to create a Greater Israel, as Smotrich has recently confirmed.
Israel started its own problems, and refuses to compromise. Russia made genuine efforts to become part of the Western system, and lashed out when it was rejected for seemingly no stated reason.
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@robfl100
Yes, that's part of the deal— Wagner gets rid of ISIS militants, they get to access the goldmines in exchange.
It's really no different than France's arrangement with all of Central Africa, except Russia doesn't require anything to be traded in rubles, or that the countries NEED to have 50% of their budget physically held in Moscow, or that they get first access to their markets.
You might cope and seethe, but Russia is objectively better to have as a partner than France. In Central and West Africa, at least.
There's a reason they all hate the explotation of Francafrique— it's textbook neocolonial policy. The same economic relations were kept in spite of nominal independence.
So no, what you described is not "about it".
The terms that the countries were made to contractually agree to when joining the CFA (under threat of coup— which France has made good on, many times) were economically draining.
I'm not painting Wagner as angels either, just pointing out that Russia is better than France here and that Russia is, in fact, anti-colonial in its approach here.
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@TheMasterMind144
Yes, I'm aware of 1994. Chechnya WON that war, and they could have kept their independence and left things alone.
What did they do instead? Gather 4,000 soldiers, invade Dagestan, and declare a jihad on Moscow. Brilliant.
Even better is that this operation was organized and funded by Saudi Arabia and the US (via Shamil Basayev).
Doesn't matter that Putin (allegedly) faked apartment bombings, they ACTUALLY invaded Russia.
Yet everyone thinks the Chechen War (the big one, where Russia re-occupied Chechnya) was started by Russia— when it wasn't.
Same with Georgia— you literally ignored the point. So I'll try again, do you think Georgia had a right to oppress its Abkhazian minority group?? Doesn't really matter that Russia meddled; every country does that and you're being selective in your accusation.
Georgia (again, according to Western sources) bombed Sukhumi University and threatened to genocide the Abkhazians. If anything they deserved to be invaded, they might have made good on their promise.
No one blames the US for invading Germany in 1943, after all.
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@TheMasterMind144
Yes, I'm aware of 1994. Chechnya WON that war, and they could have kept their independence and left things alone.
What did they do instead? Gather 4,000 soldiers, invade Dagestan, and declare a jihad on Moscow. Brilliant.
Even better is that this operation was organized and funded by Saudi Arabia and the US (via Shamil Basayev).
Doesn't matter that Putin (allegedly) faked apartment bombings, they ACTUALLY invaded Russia.
Yet everyone thinks the Chechen War (the big one, where Russia re-occupied Chechnya) was started by Russia— when it wasn't.
Same with Georgia— you literally ignored the point. So I'll try again, do you think Georgia had a right to oppress its Abkhazian minority group?? Doesn't really matter that Russia meddled; every country does that and you're being selective in your accusation.
Georgia (again, according to Western sources) bombed Sukhumi University and threatened to genocide the Abkhazians. If anything they deserved to be invaded, they might have made good on their promise.
No one blames the US for invading Germany in 1943, after all.
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@TheHuxleyAgnostic
Violently interfering? Chechnya invaded Russia, you dolt. August 1999, the Republic of Ichkeria sends a few thousand troops into Dagestan, hoping to split them away from the Russian Federation. They declare a jihad on Moscow. If that's what Russia can expect in its future, why should they be allowed an independent foreign policy? This is ironic when Bush did the exact same thing in 2003, but continued to criticize Russia for having done it themselves.
Also, I said "Westerners", not "you".
No matter what period in history, Westerners will find a reason to dislike Russia. And they don't seem to hold other countries to the same standard.
Oh, and you're even dumber for your last comment. Capitalism is an economic system, fascism is a political one. And Russia isn't fascist.
It isn't ultranationalist— Putin is an authoritarian, but he doesn't believe in the superiority of Slavs or something. Russian society is actually very separate from the military, unlike Italy or Germany.
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@manderly33
Are you being contrarian just for the sake of it? This entire segment felt like it, too.
RFK might be insane but these used to be liberal and left-leaning concerns. Republicans were the ones obsessed with burgers and guns.
God you people are so annoying. Europe's standards are higher for a reason.
EU crops, for instance, generally aren't allowed to be sprayed with inorganic pesticides, while they are in the US.
rBGH use is still widespread in the US cattle industry. Antibiotics and antibiotic resistance is also a concern, which is why US beef can't be exported to many places.
Chickens in the EU are vaccinated and so don't carry a risk of salmonella, unlike in the US, where the resulting eggs are washed and sterilized, needing to be fridged. EU eggs can be kept out because the shell keeps them from spoiling.
Add to that the risk of salmonella from the chicken meat.
Food colorings (known to be carcinogenic, such as Red 40 or Yellow 5) are still allowed in the US. Just look at the German version of Froot Loops to see a great example.
In general, the FDA takes a more hands-off approach to regulating, they wait until after an ingredient has harmed or killed Americans to ban it.
The EU requires a company to first prove that the ingredient is safe. They don't have a GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) designation.
There's a whole lot more, but the crops and meat that Americans grow are full of crap. Sorry.
Anything they export would need to follow EU protocols, so they're saving their healthiest foods to export. While leaving the Americans to gobble up the irridated scraps.
Same goes for whatever prepared foods they're selling.
Oh, and whiskey is alcohol, so no real need to poison it any more than alcohol already is one.
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@markvalery8632
Are you asking for a source to confirm that Stoltenberg DIDN'T say something?... How would that even be manifested?
"Show me that this thing didn't happen" lol
Anyways, I assumed that you were replying to his comment which wasn't banned, so I'll just drop this here anyway:
07 September 2023— Opening remarks by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg at the joint meeting of the European Parliament’s Committee on Foreign Affairs (AFET) and the Subcommittee on Security and Defence (SEDE) followed by an exchange of views with Members of the European Parliament:
“The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition to not invade Ukraine. Of course, we didn't sign that.
The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second-class membership. We rejected that.
So, he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite.”
Stoltenberg, in a friendly forum where he could have ascribed to Putin whatever he wants, madness, greed, pettiness— chose to pin his motivations on NATO expansion. Almost gave the game away...
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@社会主義惑星人民連邦
Good historical view.
Actually, Putin's story is different. He wasn't "pretending" to be pro-Western. He genuinely wanted to be a part of the system.
Listen to his speech at the Bundestag, he was a different person then.
After Yeltsin's failure, he probably adopted the idea of "the West will only respect and eventually include countries that are successful in their own right".
He gets to work installing technocrats in the Kremlin and rebuilding the Russian economy, and yet Russia is treated like a third-world country. NATO continues to expand as if the USSR still exists.
The tipping point for him was Libya, according to former aides.
Seeing a person much like himself— unifying and rapidly developing a backwater country, if ruthlessly— be overthrown in a US-backed coup, changed him.
If the US promised to normalize relations with Libya after he agreed to halt its nuclear program, and ended up throwing the country into a civil war— what moral boundary prevented them from doing that to Russia?
Add to that the fact that Russia's woes in the 1990s were largely the US' fault to begin with, and you get a man bent on eliminating US influence in the world.
He tried for over a decade to play nice, and was repeatedly snubbed in both the geopolitical and economic sphere (for example the Pentagon blocking the sale of Opel to Russia in 2008, or opposing the opening of Nordstream I).
Trusting the West was the biggest mistake Russia ever made. Putin's personal evolution is an embodiment of that fact.
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