Comments by "LancesArmorStriking" (@LancesArmorStriking) on "Multipolar World - Russia's Primakov Doctrine in the Middle East" video.
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@TheTokkin
Wow, that was insane. Easily the dumbest, most wishful thinking I've seen all week.
You're unironically an idiot.
"A chance to build something better"
You think that a Libyan state will just magically spring from nowhere once a Parliamentary vote is established? What exactly do you think people vote on? Infrastructure, food security, unemployment, education- domestic issues. Can you guess what Gaddafi was working to improve during his rule?
"Just because the people of Libya failed"
You mean, the loud minority of rebel fighters that received training and backing from the US? Yeah, they failed.
"doesn't mean that the policy was a failure: it's perfectly possible that they might be do so in the future"
This is what boils my blood the most. You are comically naïve- ideological, childish in your approach to nationbuilding. You think the principles come before the material gains, and are willing to sacrifice people's lives just to satisfy your own finnicky little needs.
Do you think that before democracy, all countries were unstable messes just waiting to emulate the Constitution so that they could start 'being good'? What a load of shit.
"I agree its risky, but the risk is partly why I love it"
You're sitting comfortable in your developed nation, of course you "love" it. You seem to treat politics like it's sports. But I wouldn't expect anything else from a Westerner. Especially an American.
The people of Libya don't need stability 'in the future', they need help NOW. The Tripoli government is a radical Islamist faction, I find it laughable that you think women or minorities would have a better life there.
Slaughter the Tripoli government, if you really stick ot your values.
But I'm sure you'd survive just fine down there, since you're so committed to putting those values before everything else. Spend a few months there and tell me how great the American plan is.
Let's see how much you love "risky" when your next meal depends on it.
I fucking hate people like you-
you're no better than a Maoist or a Jacobin; you refuse to base, or at least temper, your principles based on what's actually going on in the world, and stubbornly stick to your values for your personal emotional reasons, no matter how detrimental they are to real, living people.
And I hope you're willing to extend those same sentiments to your allies in Saudi Arabia. The entire family would need to be murdered. Same goes with Naftali Bennet, and Bibi in Israel. And the UAE, and Brazil, and Hungary and Poland. Be my guest, please.
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@KronStaro
I think that neighboring countries are actually the worst for objective analysis.
I mean, Poland (Franciszek Duchiński specifically) is responsible for the idea, supported by Ukrainian nationalists, that Russians are Asian, Ukraine + Poland + Belarus are the "true" Slavs, Moskals, etc.
This was made to counter the (ironically) correct idea promoted by St. Petersburg that all Slavs are related, and the pan-Slavic idea under a Russian Empire.
So, while they may have intimate knowledge of their neighbors, I have little faith in Ukraine or Poland to bo objective. I would expect those areas to reliably produce narratives that suit their own interests. Not the interests of objectivity.
And yes, quality of life in Russia is worse than in Poland. Don't forget that Poland received enormous amounts of Western capital and technological information to quickly move it away from Russia, while Russia had most of its money laundered out by oligarchs, whom the U.S., England, France and others were more than happy to service.
Russia is still poor partially because of the same country you seem to defend.
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@agentorange6085
Some points:
I don't think it's lost on Russia the relationship between India and China, and if anything, it will likely seek to be the prime mediator in any disputes they have (if they flare up to the point of instability). As an ally to both countries, it could likely make a better case for itself than the US, who is blatantly to one side.
My guess is that, unless Russia (finally, one can dream) diversify its economy, it will try to maintain economic partnerships and influence in both countries, and do to China and India, what India does to Russia and the West.
Regarding Japan and Europe: it's worth mentioning, to start, that while Japan as a whole likely values American presence as a counter to China, the Okinawans (where the actual base is located) aren't so happy. Beyond attracting China's military attention, they're generally an annoyance, being a near opposite to Japanese cultural ideals. In 2019, a majority of residents opposed the construction of a new base. Their continued presence is Tokyo's doing, not theirs.
As for removing bases, could you give examples? I feel that the US only does that when there is no rival superpower in the region. I mean, after multiple rape cases in the Okinawan bases, they still insisted they stay and negotiated with Tokyo as such. They withdrew from the Gulf only after Hussein was taken care of. So could you provide examples?
Now, the larger point you made:
The Bretton Woods system isn't technically forced, but... with the US dominating so much of the world's financial systems and trade routes, does anyone really have a choice? You're implying that continued cooperation = willful cooperation. And the US has abused its hegemonic status numerous times in the past, and continues to do so (though under the new pretext of countering China).
The economic development of Europe only happened because of the Marshall Plan, and the Allied victors were allowed to keep vestiges of their empires. Of course Europe would be more than happy to oblige. By the way, the prosperity you mentioned far predates democracy, and the US. Are you forgetting how wealthy Europe was before WWII, too? You act like the US' system is what singlehandedly gave them that power. When it was, in short, colonies and naval power that did.
So no, it's not a Russian mindset. In fact, where they can blatantly get away with it, they do it. The US has leveraged its senior position at the WTO to force tiny nations like Palau (and large ones like Mexico and Canada- i.e. Trump) to accept bad trade terms. They've navally blocked trade between China and Iran.
And counters to this system (Chinese digital yuan, Gaddafi's Afro currency, Russian alternative to SWIFT, etc) are vehemently opposed by US financial and political figures.
About Russian prosperity, you are somewhat correct. Putin is a brilliant statesman, but a terrible economist. Russian industry and consumer goods are faltering, and the business environment is suffering as a result of his drive to funnel Russia's energy into being a geopolitical counterweight.
Europe and Japan have had centuries of time to develop. Western Europe in particular shares geographical security in common with Japan. Their answer is not "kowtowing to the US".
Japan's situation is entirely unique, never have birthrates been so low. Stop trying to do damage control and comfort yourself. The situation is unprecedented and will put a huge strain on Japan's remaining workers, just accept that. Either immigrants, which Japan refuses, or robots, which require healthy workers. The resentments faded from their minds because they won out. Rather, they did until the 80s, we will see how opinion changes.
Same goes for Europe. The lack of bitterness comes from having been on the side of the victor. Russia took the brunt of the bloodshed and received little back. It paid back the Lend Lease in 2007. And its elections, and economy, were meddled in the 1990s by the US.
So please, stop trying to sound profound about how Russia just needs to accept your personal values when you've no idea why it is the way that it is today.
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