Comments by "LancesArmorStriking" (@LancesArmorStriking) on "Jesse Lee Peterson Owned Me in a Debate [React]" video.
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@nathanlovik1753
Ah yes, the '4D chess' argument. When your figurehead is so stupid that even you can't rationalize their behavior at face value, so you inject it with meaning to compensate.
There is no evidence to suggest that JLP was using the Socratic method here- he doesn't ever hint at a deeper, underlying reason for questioning the way that he does. In fact, he does the opposite:
When Hassan answers his question at 38:19 "Do you think black people are victims?" with "I think black people, just like white people, are all victims of the same system that we live under". He keeps repeating the same question, "I didn't ask about all I only asked about one group" and so on, until they move on.
This isn't Socratic- he isn't questioning assumptions, he's creating them. While I personally do think that black people are victims in a way exclusive to them (court sentencing lengths, policing, weed arrests, all connected to generational wealth)-- if Hasan doesn't think that, JLP needs to accept the answer and move on, or address the underlying disagreement.
His question rests on a false assumption, that Hasan needs to think exactly the way he does.
If Hasan established that he doesn't believe the premise of the question (black people are victims in particular) then JLP needs to prove that the premise is true. Instead of actually questioning the premise, like you're saying, he just keeps going with it.
As for the rest of your gibberish comment, again, I need evidence to suggest that JLP actually thinks that. Does he explicitly say that we're all a part of society, or capitalism? Does he hint at it? I need words from his mouth, not yours.
And you went from one point to another: Dylan Roof shooting up a black church after writing things like "Negroes have lower Iqs, lower impulse control, and higher testosterone levels in generals. These three things alone are a recipe for violent behavior."
That's the definition of racism- thinking that some races are beneath others, or that they're inherently bad.
So, there is "some individuals must be behind the racist or injustice."
Dylann is racist, and he killed black people. Is innocent black people dying not injustice? Is being killed, having members of your family killed by a child not oppressive? I think you proved yourself wrong.
Then you went to power, which is a different argument. You need to stay on track. Even then, you're wrong.
The power to kill innocent people and not be killed on the spot, like Ahmaud Arbery, Eric Garner, or Treyvon Martin, is power. Why do the police not kill him, but kill all those other people? It's because he's white and his family will raise hell if their little 'troubled angel' is killed.
"Is society racist" is exactly the same type of question as "are black people victims"! Too fucking broad!! Which society? Which country? U.S.? Okay, which region? Racist against which group? How, where? Is it legal or illegal?
Why don't you conservatives ever want to being your ideas out of La-La Land and into the real world? Talk about specific places, times, dates.
For fuck's sake. Be specific, for once.
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@nathanlovik1753
Lol, if the best you can do is say "they look unprepared" you've already lost. Attacking the person shows that you know his arguments are right, but you can't talk about that because it'll be obvious the second you start.
And Peterson was the one mumbling through his own show, I don't know where exactly you saw him as being 'unprepared' or clueless. I need specific timestamps.
You're making assumption after assumption here, it makes you look really stupid. Give me evidence that Hasan 'rolled out of bed' to the interview. Comments by him later, testimonies from friends, groupchat messages, anything. You're jumping to conclusions without any documentation that it actually, really happened.
But you're conservative, so what should I expect.
The rest of your statement is also completely ridiculous. Red states mooch off of blue states, consistently.
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/
If the Republican South is so great, why is it still piss-poor after all this time? Even Texas cities are blue lol. New Orleans is blue. Missoula is blue. Face it, Democrats pull the weight of the country, red flyover states mooch off Medicare while pretending they hate it. Slimy hypocrites.
Ben Shapiro couldn't handle a 15 minute interview with Andrew Neil, a conservative!
His job was to read arguments from the left and play Devil's Advocate, to see the interviewee defend their positions. The second Ben steps off a college campus or his safe little show, he gets destroyed LMAO, he even had to apologize for it, fucking loser
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1126561352867147776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1126561352867147776&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2019%2F05%2F11%2Fus%2Fben-shapiro-bbc-interview-intl%2Findex.html
He's so not used to actually being challenged that he cracked the second it happened. He's not prepared, he literally says he didn't do his research before. Stop lying right to my face.
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1126894051456774144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1126894051456774144&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2019%2F05%2F11%2Fus%2Fben-shapiro-bbc-interview-intl%2Findex.html
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