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Comments by "LancesArmorStriking" (@LancesArmorStriking) on "America is So Bloodthirsty..." video.
@troyhowden3737 It's a rhetorical question, but thank you. Your answer is the right one
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Ironic considering how many of his 'brothers' in the corps will likely become homeless too
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@soulslvr9562 I guess so but even a hovel is better than being homeless, and I have a hard time believing that this guy is either of those
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@Tommyboy6426 1) Yelling at passengers isn't a crime 2) Even if it were, the punishment doesn't fit the crime. It wasn't even done by someone with the legal authority to dole out punishment. Why are you trying to brush this off? The Marine murdered an innocent man. Maybe not a GOOD man. But he did nothing in that moment to deserve death.
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@matthewbrennan9758 He also placed the blame for Jordan's own death squarely on him. Doesn't seem like an exoneration of fault either.
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@Tommyboy6426 Even threatening to kill doesn't automatically consign you to death. Unless your threat to others' safety can ONLY be neutralized by your death, you shouldn't be killed. Especially if the person (like Jordan) isn't in his right mind, and is already subdued, there's zero reason to go in after the fact and kill. More to your reply though: the fact that you even thought to use that as a genuine example really shows how deluded Americans are. Your hypothetical scenario happens like that nowhere else on earth. Certainly nowhere else that's as developed as the US. More importantly, the punishment even in your example still doesn't fit the crime. The mentality that doing something in breach of an order automatically means you can assume they're trying to kill you and you have a right to attempt to kill them preemptively— is not the mentality of a normal person. It's something you'd expect from a veteran with PTSD. Not someone with nerves of steel. Most police around the world simply aren't operating in that mindset, so my response to what you just said is; you're wrong. That's not a justification to kill. Dozens of police do just fine without those extreme RoE. Switzerland is armed to the teeth and their police aren't jumpy and weak-willed like yours are.
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@Tommyboy6426 You're also trying to conflate pinning someone down with putting them into a chokehold. He was already pinned down before the Marine came in and locked him. And even if use a hypothetical and say he wasn't, the second Jordan was immobilized should have been the second the Marine let go of his windpipe. I'll ask again: why did the Marine feel the need to continuously choke him?
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@Tommyboy6426 Explain how I'm misrepresenting the issue. I've been repeating the same points and asking the same question over and over: why did the Marine choke Jordan even after he had all his limbs restrained?? I'm not brushing off what Jordan did. I literally described what he did. He threatened to kill passengers. That still does not make him deserving of death. You're still holding contradicting beliefs: "I don't believe Jordan should have died" and "if he didn't wanna die he shouldn't have picked that fight" If you don't think he should have died then you shouldn't justify his death. You said in the second quote that there was a rational, understandable reason for him to have been killed. He picked the fight, so dying is a natural outcome of that. Your words. If you don't think he should have died, then the course of events that led to his death is unjustifiable. It simply shouldn't have happened, the Marine shouldn't have done the very thing you're justifying him doing (because that's what led to his death, which you said shouldn't have happened at all). So why are you justifying it??
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@Tommyboy6426 Woah! There are also videos of people winning the lottery, it's legit!!! In case the sarcasm wasn't thick enough— those events are exceedingly rare. They show cops the same videos to scare them and train them into shooting first and asking questions later. You could apply the same logic to videos of people getting struck by lightning. Look how many times I just saw it happen, this is a real problem in society!!
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@Tommyboy6426 Watched the full thing. He's still holding onto him even after Jordan is out cold. His eyes are shut the entire time, he's not writhing... timestamp when you see him release the headlock.
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