Comments by "LancesArmorStriking" (@LancesArmorStriking) on "ZELENSKY COMES TO AMERICA" video.
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@IAMHALFLIGHT
Essentially, yes. A MAD-protected Concert of Powers, if you will.
Not a great solution, but compared to what we had in the 1990s (with the US at its peak, facing a post-USSR existential crisis and destroying the Middle East) it is at least providing smaller states with the chance that their larger neighbor will not manipulate or occupy them (Haiti, Mexico; Azerbaijan, Finland) because there is an alternative to turn to.
That is actually what has kept Russia on relatively equal terms with Azerbaijan; Turkey as an alternative economic option. The greater the imbalance of power, the greater potential for abuse.
Of course, this does not account for perceived imbalance of power, as in Ukraine right now (2014 may have given Russia the wrong impression, that the rest would be just as easy), but generally if the state perceives correctly, and there are too many large states that can be called upon, large states will stop exerting their force so much.
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@TheSubso
...You must be kidding.
Russia didn't have the string of luck associated with free capital and knowledge transfer from the British Empire, isolationism for 200 years, access to 2 oceans with no foreign powers etc...
But I would say, even if you consider the russification and suppression of political dissent (is that any different to the US? South Korea was a dictatorship for decades), the average Ukrainian's life is- materially- vastly better now than it was 200 years ago.
The USSR, like it or not, industrialized Russia and its former subjects at breakneck speed, and much of the infrastructure they are defending right now wouldn't have even existed if not for Lenin.
You take for granted that the US started from a high level of development to start with.
Even immigration: hundreds of thousands of Germans were simply... allowed to leave for the US, but when they were invited to settle in Russia, Prussia quickly disallowed their movement. Europe went out of its way to hamper Russia at every turn, and continues to.
It will of course take time, and genuine investment and nurture (instead of neoliberal policy, allowing Russian oligarchs to launder money into Western banks) to develop Russia.
But I think that the stability that Ukraine would provide (namely the Carpathian mountains, shorter land border = lessened military expenditure) will free up some of Russia's budget to actually develop itself, and by extension Ukraine.
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@TheSubso
" but you sure love advocating for it."
How about, instead of trying to force Russia to spend even more on military and border security, you leave us, and ukraine, the fuck alone? Ideally, like you said.
For someone who likes to accuse me of 'sucking a country in', you seem all to eager to do the same.
You literally said they'd be better off in your bubble, yet complain when we want to do the exact same thing.
Again-- the action doesn't matter. Russia could do literally anything (short of selling itself like in the 1990s) and the West would find a way to bitch and moan.
" wont lead to a worse outcome :)"
..How? You never really addressed what I said-- the US is likely to buy out most of Ukraine's resources and companies- their "aid" is a giant loan.
Once again, I offer you Greece and most of the Balkans. Being in the US' sphere =/= prosperity.
The US cares about Ukrainians as much as it cares for Greeks, which is to say not at all. Only if they're convenient.
Frankly I could also present Ukraine from the 1990s as well. Seems like it's due for a repeat! Clinton will be proud
All you did was repeat your original belief, but you didn't square it with any of what I said
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@keiolge
Bro... Chechnya attacked first. August 1999. Fucking Yanks.
Also, unlike Western countries, Russia has largely respected the native cultures which it encountered. Europe has none left to speak of (Langue d'Oil, Manx, Pictish, Prussia, all extinct, Irish language almost extinct, Basque and Welsh barely recovering).
And the US is even worse-- a few Native reservations on garbage land, no opportunities, pretending like they're nations and refusing to find them properly...
Russia has native Republics, and came to genuine compromises regarding autonomy in the 1990s. Entire regions have mandatory schooling in the native languages.
I'd say Russia, relatively speaking, was the most benevolent in terms of encountering natives.
No encomienda system, no Manifest Destiny, just align with Moscow and be left alone.
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