Comments by "Phoneybeetlemaniacxs" (@Phoneybeetlemaniacxs) on "Pat Robertson: "Atheists are Miserable Grinches!" War on Christmas 2012 Begins!" video.

  1. The star of david was venus which if you knew anything about Judaism is the lightbringer. Says you who says Bethelem was a place in sky when it was the city of david. it didnt, astrology didnt play that bigger part in their religion. I would advise you take a comparative religon course or read Jonathan Z Smith's Chrisitanbity you will find it eye opening.
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  2. I am a christian and I am sick of this every goddamn year.
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  3. I am not using the bible to argue Jesus was a real person i am using souces outside of it. Now certtain things were important in the sky namely Venus./ However they didnt folow astrology.
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  4. Nme one academic historian who says such a thing. The zodiac has not been round since Egypt. Its been around sicne 1str century bc. I would check out Tamsin byrnes work on the subject.
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  5. Facepalm Bethelem was the city of David, it was talked aboutside of the bible. NO they didnt as astrology wasnt important in their religion. Yes there were specific stars that were Venus for example but astrology wasnt that important as say in egyptian relgions. So you obviously know nothing
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  6. Bart Ehrman or other non-theist biblical scholar. Jospeheus and tacitus both historians but himb eing a real person being crucified. THere prolly was a cenesus as romans would do that shit all the time. Where do you think we get that concept. It sint a work of ficiton, all you do is go on skeptics website whose academic knowledge is comaprable to that of answer in genesis.
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  7. No it isnt. Sorry you are wrong. Horus, KJrishna and Mithra/Mithras are not Sun Gods. THeose things dont to them. THose sthings were made up in the 19th century. Jesus has notthing to do with the zodiac nor has it anything to do with anything to do with paganism or sun worship. THis is zeitgeist crap and you should really research these religions and not copy things from Let he truth be known. I could educatge you on these Gods if you want.
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  8. No horus, krishna and mithra didnt have birthdays on the 25th december. It has nothing to do witht he soltice. RIght we dont know why that date became popualr. It became popuar with eastern christians in carthage somethink it was tied toa kindly king who had converted to christianity. However it was a date that became popualr around ROmae as it was Roman Empire day. Now to combat his sthe cult of Sol Invictus and The roman mystery religon of Muithras changed their dates to compete. So try again
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  9. Christianity is not a rip off. I hate having to correct people on this, that fucking zeitgeist film is a bunch of shit and I soam sorry you are wrong.
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  10. THey didnt name Bethelhem after a constitalation, it was the city of david. Now el equals god if I have to give you more clues to why you are wrong and I have to poull out the name the astrologicla system use by the jews. I giving you schoalrs who exist a few years after jesus as such did schoalrly work. I am naming not chrisitan sources as peiople on your side will tell this stuff is crap.
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  11. No I am syaing you are wrong easy to expalin and simple to to porve. THese claims come the 19th cnetury and cant withstand any ciritcal test. CHristianity comes from Judiasm it does not come from paganism. Yes there were pagan festive aspects added later the true and the log etc. However THe core elements about jesus are original to christianity sorry.
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  12. Deist or pantheist.
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  13. It nevers says there was a mass census on rome, it said there was a cnesus that caused people to go to their place of birth. The academics I am talking about are insane thats an academic debate, you know what if a creationst just said what you did you would tear their arse apart. I njnamed two extra bibliclacl sources that mention Jesus and you hwvent refuted them. Bethelem is a constellation baha bwhahaha. I have heard it all now. It was the city of David not a place in the sky.
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  14. Do you know what projection is? No they didnt they began in Babylon. I dont know any egyptologists who says that. It may have been known earlier by Hermarcus but he ddint really put the info together.
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  15. it didnt Christmas and the holiday we now know as easter weree being celebrating by christians way before any of htese things. I would look at egyptian christians and the church of the east. So they didnt change it. THe core of christianity remain intact anjd have nnothign to do with paganism. Yes there are diffrerent flood sotis but they arrive organicallt which si called sychronisticism. As they were near a waterr source which wukld flood all tiume as nayone who lives near one now.
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  16. Most christians dont believe in the rpautre
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  17. Yes christmas tree was oagan ands are easter eggs. However this was added later were christians would basiocally say to people if they wouldnt get rid of certain things put a corss on it and call it a win.; However that has nothing to do witht eh incpotption of christianity
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  18. Why not base your opinioon on hisotrians and not 19th century pseudo scholars
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  19. Indeed the celebrate in august
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  20. No it was nothing to do with astrology youa nre wrong. Guy above this guy nice ofn you to call a woman a slut without prove dickhead. n
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  21. They didnt will you be told. Many things happened between christianity incpetion and it becomeing the religion of rome. Jesus was a historical figure, your incredulity doesnt change that. They all had nothign to do with Astrology. Horus was the name given to the image of a falcon god in ancient egypt, I will assume you mean the son of isis and osiris and he had nothing to do with it then. Mithra had nothign to do with it either Mithras did because the cult of Mithras was using the zodiac.
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  22. Yes anjd youa re stioll wrong hours, krishna and mithra/ mithras werent born of virigins b, didnt have 12 discplies nor were they crucified.
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  23. Youa rw wrong they didnt use an astrological system and if you mean the zodiac that didnt come about unntil 150 years before jesus showed up and it certain didnt influence Judaiism. I have the fact hsitoriians dont doubt his existence. The same as eovlution isnt doubt as a underlining theory of science. There are peopelk who doubt that and its a concidiuence you only find them online.
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