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Comments by "Seven Proxies" (@sevenproxies4255) on "The Great Facebook Outage" video.
Honestly, I find silicon valley tech giants to be worse than the tobacco industry executives. No one from the tobacco industry forced me to use their products. I chose to do so myself. None of them has urged me not to buy their product because they think I have the "wrong" political opinions. They sell me a product, they aren't denying the risks involved with using that product, and they don't tell me what to think. The same cannot be said about Facebook or Twitter.
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@mariadavies7135 Also the door swings both ways with your criticism. The lefties all scream over how companies should be slapped with tighter regulation or even be "redistributed to the people", but when Twitter or Facebook deplatforms the lefties opponents, they all start virtue signalling about "muh private companies".
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@mariadavies7135 Clearly you're not a law student. No, even if you sign the T&C, it's still invalid if the T&C contains illegal clauses. There is a very extensive and in depth procedure for writing a legal contact or document. And 90 % of companies who smack you with a "terms and conditions" page or EULA have NOT had their documents run by a competent lawyer. So if any of these illegal clauses get contested in court and the judge spots it, then the entire countract is null and void, regardless of what the company put in the text.
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@mariadavies7135 No, I don't want to control "everything". But I do want to control multinational companies who destroy societies or try to seize power over societies in the pursuit of a quick buck or their own megalomaniacal desires. Business should not under any circumstances be allowed to be a platform to take over countries.
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Corporations who are caught with propagandizing or lobbying should be nationalized immediately. Change my mind.
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@bhministry I don't care. Nobody ever said that the market should be a platform to subvert democracies.
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@mariadavies7135 Nothing strange about it. The evil of socialism isn't really that a government has the power to shut down or break a subversive company up. The evil lies in it's lack of understanding of how the market works and how to generate prosperity. If a company like facebook is slapped with regulations or gets nationalized it's not really gonna damage the nations economy at all. What you need to understand is that just because someone is opposee to socialism, it doesn't mean they are believers in laisez faire capitalism either.
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@mariadavies7135 No, they're welcome to disagree. But "disagreeing" does not mean that you necessarily are allowed to takr action, ANY action that you feel like. Private businesses have to respect laws and regulations that goes according to the democratic principles. They don't have to like them. They don't have to disagree with them. They can even speak out against them. But if they want them changed, then they have to use their vote for the purpose. Not by taking action and shutting down constitutional rights of the citizenry just because they happen to be owners of the means or communication. And no I don't need to follow their terms and conditions because in 99 % if the cases, terms and condition documents actually contain illegal clauses. They are only legally recognized documents after having been tried in court. And the laws can change too. And yes, what I want would probably seem like a dicratorship to you. Because I am disillusioned, sick and tired of seeing multinational corporations usurping the power of governments and granting themselves more rights and freedoms at the cost of the general population. Business owners should be forced (at gunpoint if need be) to understand that they are PRIVILIGED to be allowed to operate in our countries.
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