Comments by "Seven Proxies" (@sevenproxies4255) on "The Woke Vegan Feminist Debate" video.

What she neglects to mention is that the meat industry as a whole is also ensuring the survival of many species of cows, pigs and chickens. Cows are not the same as their strong auroch ancestors from pre-historic times. They are not physically equipped to fend for themselves in the wild anymore. So if you ban the meat industry, then who takes responsibility for all the cows? Are you just going to "set them free" and watch them be devoured en masse by wild predators until they go extinct? Or are you going to continue breeding them in capitivity as a form of preservation where there are no financial profits to be made anymore. Also even if you're not slaughtering the cows, they still need to eat. So any conservation efforts will still take up the same space of farmland as before. Only no food for humans is being produced out of it, making the whole operation a net financial burden on society.
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@thomaslacroix6011 So you're arguing that it is in the best interest of cows to be exterminated wholesale through sterilization? 🤔 Last time I checked, living organisms tend to want to survive and procreate. It's an instinict hardwired into the DNA of every living thing in earth, from the largest blue whale to the smallest bacteria.
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If eating meat is "white supremacy"... Then why have literally every race on earth taken part of the practice, even before first meeting any white people?
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If we're not supposed to eat animals, then why are animals made out of food? 🤔
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@thomaslacroix6011 Fair enough. I've played the devil's advocate too sometimes. Thanks for the clarification. My counter argument still stands, but as a hypothetical one and not directed at you personally.
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@thomaslacroix6011 Call me sentimental but I think we should treat livestock way better in general, even if we still eat them. I hate the vile practice of factory farming and I wouldn't mind at all if the price of meat got increased if it means offering a better life for livestock before slaughter. The slaughter methods could also do with a lot of improvement and reduced bureaucracy. I find that the whole industry presents a glaring matter of hypocrisy. For example, if children starts exhibiting behaviours of torturing animals, then we see it as a risk of developing psychopathy (on well founded grounds). But for some reason, we allow animal torture in the factory farming industry and no one bats an eye. We benefit as a species and as a society by trying to reduce harm and suffering towards animals. It helps along developing our morality. That doesn't mean I want to end the practice of eating meat, not at all. It just means that we can definitely afford to provide a better life for the creatures who make the ultimate sacrifice to provide us with meat.
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@The_Natalist I like more traditional methods of raising cattle. Herding and grazing in open plains and so on. I hate how government overreach has been encroaching so much on this practice while favoring the monstrous practice of factory farming.
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@viysnjor4811 Yep. Release all cows and pigs. Suddenly a lot of big cats, wolves, bears and the like will be saturated with new food sources. Big cats, wolves and bears will multiply a lot more than before on account of the abundant food source. They will encroach on eachothers territories more, and that of other animal species. Then the released cows and pigs will eventually be hunted to extinction by these predators since they are too domesticated to be able to evolve into a more feral state. This will cause predators to starve to death, fight eachother for expanding territories, possibly cause them to get desperate and attack human settlements and so on. It would be a short period of plenty for predators as the released livestock is being eaten. But once the livestock runs out it will be a long perios of suffering for the predators.
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@The_Natalist You can probably find pictures and videos of it. Trust me, not a pretty sight. And nowhere near the good conditions of your chickens. In my country I see cows living pretty tranquil lives in wide and open pastures fenced in with barbed wire or electrical wire. They can move and graze as they wish. Cattle consigned to factory farms is an entirely different story.
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