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Comments by "Seven Proxies" (@sevenproxies4255) on "The TRUTH About Black Africans In Ancient Rome" video.
@MindForgedManacle Well for example: casting a black actress as Anne Boleyn... Or trying to cancel a video game developer, making a game about medieval Bohemia... Because their game didn't include any BLACK Knights...
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I think people have always been racist to a certain degree. But for the most part, it never extended beyond bias and predudice. The modern narrative is that any racist thought will automatically lead to racial persecutions and genocides, which just isn't supported by history.
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I'm a white man. And I agree. I'd much rather see more television features and documentaries about ancient African cultures and historical figures, than having black Africans being shoehorned into my history and culture in this manner. History happened everywhere after all. But communications were poor in ancient times, and not much survives into our times. So make an effort to expose more of history in all parts of the world, I say.
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@Lanval_de_Lai Why is it a "problem" with cultural supremacy... In the homelands of those cultures? 🤔 I don't go to Italy, expecting them to tell mandatory stories inspired by the Poetic Eddas. I expect Italians to talk about ancient Rome and Roman history.
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@mizukage_josh9125 Enforced representation is cancer.
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@MindForgedManacle There is a culture war going on, whether you like it or not. Why should anyone just lie down and lose it?
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@stevenwilliams1805 Did you see that scene where Chief Sitting Bull has a sit-down with Colonel Nelson Miles in Left my heart at Wounded Knee? That's a personal favourite of mine whenever lefties start ranting about "evil white colonizers". It's a credit to your character that you've adopted a nuanced and truthful perspective of history. Because it's gotta be very tempting to just buy into the whole minority victim narrative to get ahead these days. Also far more constructive when people try to look forward rather than assuming grievances of long dead ancestors, while slinging accusations at people living today for actions their long dead ancestors did.
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@mizukage_josh9125 I never claimed Jesus was "white" as in anglo-germanic. But his ethnic make-up would make him caucasoid.
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@GT-wj3gl Uh, yes. According to the classical racial categories, middle easterners are classified as caucasoid. They're damn sure not "black".
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@stevenwilliams1805 You're absolutely right. We've got the benefit of hindsight here. It should be used to help NOT repeating past misdeeds. But whenever these race baiters are trying to drag up old conflicts and misdeeds, I can't say I see much attempts at moving forward. It's more like they want to get "revenge". Why not try to be happy about the fact that our current generation isn't at eachothers throats the way our ancestors were in the past? Try to build things instead of focusing all efforts on destroying what your neighbour builds. Peace to you too, brother. May your life be filled with good fortune and prosperity. 🖖
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@BleedForTheWorld You're literally forming angry mobs to directly attack developers of video games and film makers for not having enough "representation" in their work. The usual tactic is "Sure, make your game or film however you like... But if you don't include enough minority characters, we're gonna drag your name through the mud, start boycot campaigns and accuse you of racism" Yet you have the gall to sit here and say that you're not using force? GTFO, dude. 🤣
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@BleedForTheWorld Do you know what the word "force" even means? Also, yes I am an anti-SJW. But you're clearly not since you've bought into their narrative by arguing that "more representation" is needed everywhere, even though representation as a concept is completely idiotic and racist to begin with. Tell me, why does the historically white character of Anne Boleyn have to be played by a black actress, when nobody would think of the idea to have Martin Luther King be portrayed by a white actor? You seriously expect me to believe that this casting decision didn't have political and idelogical messaging behind it?
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@AfronautWasTaken It's not unscientific at all. There's plenty of scientifically established differences in race. Average IQ, ability to digest dairy, significant likelyhood of various genetic diseases and so on. All you did is confirm my point here. You assume that racism always leads to genocides and persecution, which is historically incorrect. "There is precedent" is not an argument i'm afraid. Just because something happened in the past once or twice, out of literally thousands of years of history, it isn't proof that it it'll always happen again. You're also directly contributing to more racial antagonism by trying to force people out of their views, even when they're pretty benign. I also find it rather disgusting how you're advocating for a kind of social engineering, whereby a person who may not feel comfortable with certain interactions must be forced to undergo them to "rid them" of their preferences. I'm more in favor of freedom of association, thought and opinion myself. It's deeply immoral to try and compel or force people to think differently when they don't want to.
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@BleedForTheWorld No, I like learning. I just don't like swallowing your woke propaganda. Because it only leads to needless strife, chaos and ignorance.
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@BleedForTheWorld The 13th amendment is not slavery.
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@EbonyPhoenix You might be new to this youtube channel. This is a channel where we who dislike historical inaccuracy in films gather. Because idiot directors are possessed by hubris, thinking that their "artistic liberties" would somehow be better than actual history... Which has never been the case. A story of fiction has never been better than historical fact. And yes, working for the BBC as an actor or actress means you're priviliged and wealthy. The state is literally funding you with tax payers money to pursue some selfish, egotistical "artistic" dreams of yours. I doubt the british government does the same thing for your average brit.
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@EbonyPhoenix Yes, a lot of people work at the BBC. But far from all of them are paid actors and actresses. I'm sure she deserves good pay if she does a good job. But acting the part of Anne Boleyn destroys all manner of suspension of disbelief, because everybody watching knows that Anne Boleyn wasn't black.
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@EbonyPhoenix If it's a show just made for entertainment, then what's the reasoning behind dredging up the ghosts of history for it? It's demonstrably a political action. And you're being very disingenous by pretending that it wasn't.
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@EbonyPhoenix Point being?
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@EbonyPhoenix So would you be fine with a biopic about Nelson Mandela... Starring Ethan Hawke?
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@EbonyPhoenix I don't want equalized representation. I want accurate representation. And it goes both ways too. I don't want to see a white actor cast as Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King or Shaka Zulu, because doing so automatically detracts from the story. But we all know you'd never truly advocate for a white actor to play a historical black person in reality. It would upset you. Because you are a wokist. And according to your doctrine, only white culture must be "diversified" and be more "inclusive". Never black culture.
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@federalbureauofinvestigati5588 "Brown" is not a race according to the classic categories of race. Jewish semite = still caucasian according to it. I didn't invent that system. Look it up for yourself if you don't believe me. I'm not religious either so I don't have any vested interest in what race Jesus was. He could be Martian for all I care.
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@staC-wh6ik I don't complain about culture wars. Culture wars are part and parcel of human interaction. What I complain about is cultural suicide. How a group of deranged leftwingers is acticely trying to get western cultures to destroy themselves in pursuit of absolutely idiotic ideals like "equality" and "anti-racism".
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@EbonyPhoenix The story and context does change depending on the race of the actor.
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Straw No, the first people of every nation was not black. The "africa cradle" theory has been debunked several times over.
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@AfronautWasTaken No, it's perfectly logical if you study current events. The people most viciously arguing against racism... Have contributed to making race a much bigger issue than before. I'm talking about groups like BLM and other leftwing race baiters, who claim to be "against racism"... When in reality they are only against racism from non-POC TO POC, but are more than happy with vice versa. Heck, I didn't even used to care about race that much in my youth. But after having seen where things are going in today's political climate, I am more aware of my race and other people's races than ever. And if push comes to shove, I will choose the benefit of my own race above the benefit of other races, according to the principles of survival of the fittest.
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@AfronautWasTaken So you admit then that certain people are historically linked to certain parts of the world? 😉 Starting to sound kinda RACIST to me 😂
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@Lanval_de_Lai Where is the problem with imperialism?
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@Lanval_de_Lai Yeah?... Are you waiting to tell me about the bad parts?
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@Lanval_de_Lai What? I'm asking you to tell me what's so bad about Imperalism. You list a bunch of reasons, but none of them seem inherently good or bad to me. So i'l just asking you to clarify.
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@BleedForTheWorld Well, i'm not treading carefully. What are you going to do? Get very upset with me? Get in line.
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@BleedForTheWorld Meanwhile, slavery is alive and well, and LEGAL in many african and middle eastern countries. Today. In this year. 2021. But yeah "western imperialist countries" are surely the worst of them 🤣
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@EbonyPhoenix So your argument is that historical authenticity should take a backseat in favor of getting a wealthy, priviliged black actress a job? 😁 And no, "the story" is not the only thing people care about.
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@LionClanChief https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543
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@AfronautWasTaken And the reason why they aren't have no scientific explanations whatsoever, but purely political ones. Try making some racial biology studies and you'll see yourself how established academics and institutions will actively sabotage your efforts, because they consider the issue of race as some sort of dangerous pandoras box that cannot be allowed to be opened.
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@jaspervanheycop9722 If IQ is "backwards" then why does every single accredited institution use it to measure intelligence? Why does the military? Why does Mensa? Why do psyhologists and doctors?
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@jaspervanheycop9722 If race is not genetic, then why can you tell a person's race by looking at their DNA alone?
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@jaspervanheycop9722 Well I had to take an IQ test when I was undergoing examinations for medical problems. Are you trying to suggest that the medical and psychiatric professionals I was seeing were all "backwards"? Bold claims! And while we're on the subject: what are your credentials? Seeing as how you so flippantly dismiss theirs. You must be a very accredited academic to dismiss an entire staff of medical professionals like that. There is no flaw in the IQ test whatsoever. It's a quite functional and effective way of measuring a persons ability for logical reasoning.
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@jaspervanheycop9722 Haha, riveting tale chap 🤣
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@AfronautWasTaken There is most definitely a correlation about race and IQ. Read The Bell Curve and find out for yourself. Average IQ differs quite significantly between races. And there's data to back it up too.
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@AfronautWasTaken What are my political opinions then? Let's see if you "get me" or not. Or if you're just prejudiced. 😉
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@AfronautWasTaken "Academical honesty" 🤣 Clearly you haven't been to a university in a good long while. At least not a western one
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@jaspervanheycop9722 Can you present credible scientific counter arguments or findings to the findings being presented in it? Nah, didn't think so.
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@AfronautWasTaken Find me a scientist that has presented a causal link between "social circumstances" and IQ. Show me the mechanisms of "social circumstances" and their interaction with the brain's development of logic and reason.
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@AfronautWasTaken At the end of the day, this is a nature vs nurture discussion. An age old question, yet to be answered by any branch of science. And you'll find no scientist who can credibly claim that one or the other is the ultimate determining factor of the development of a human. If you claim that "science" has some sort of consensus that "nurture" is the sole determining factor, then you're just being a liar. All the data is correlation only, since nobody really understands the mechanisms behind this development. I currently adopt a more charitable perspective than you. Because if nature shapes the different races of human, then whatever deficiencies they exhibit, is not their own responsibility, since they can't exert control over their biology. None of us can. You however, adopt a perspective where nurture is the only determining factor. And by so doing, you imply that other people aren't biologically disadvantaged but MORALLY inferior. You might as well call yourself Trump and refer to these countries as "shithole countries" really.
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@legrandliseurtri7495 I am a person. SINGULAR. I am not a "they". "They" grammatically denotes a plural. Learn english please...
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@legrandliseurtri7495 So you call me nuts in one sentence... But then worry about being "polite"? I don't find it very "polite" to be refered to as a "they". Just because your woke friends have brainwashed you into using nonsensical pronouns, don't expect that crap to fly with the rest of us.
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@legrandliseurtri7495 No, they most certainly did not. You are an indoctrinated victim of woke culture. Nobody refered to anyone as "they" 20 years ago. At best they used "he or she", but of course, you being a programmed peon can't do that either, because your mind instinctively goes "Gee maybe this person self-identifies as non-binary or otherkin?" That's literally how transparent and pathetic you are. Really cracks me up how you're trying to hide behind a facade of "politeness", when in reality you couldn't give two shits about whether I find you impolite or not. Your real worry is if one of your lefty friends is watching what you're writing or not. And that's the sad, miserable and pathetic existence you live through every day. I pity you.
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@AfronautWasTaken You claimed that someone can't tell someones origin based off DNA alone, only their "geography". Let's see if you can answer this then: can you tell whether someone is a white south african or black south african? Will a black persons DNA show the result "English" when being tested? 😏
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@AfronautWasTaken You haven't been very clear at all. All you've done is bend over backwards to avoid using the word "race", even when you clearly mean it and acknowledge it's existence. A DNA test will even track down nationality, but the results will always refer to the ancestral race of that nationality. A black person living in Norway will not have a test result saying "Norwegian". His test result will show that he is from Africa. Regardless of where he might live in the world right now.
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@jaspervanheycop9722 I've presented plenty of evidence. You however have presented none. All you've done is made baseless claims like "oh but the scientists disagree with this". You have brought nothing to the table. So piss off you useless waste of air . 😉
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@AfronautWasTaken I still don't see any evidence from you. ;)
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@AfronautWasTaken Also, what are you so afraid of? You may not that you and your little team of cheerleaders in this thread have been very insulting and abusive towards me. Yet I haven't resorted to much in the way of ad hominems towards you. So why are you so emotionally invested in this? If you're so convinced that i'm wrong, why not just dismiss me as someone being wrong? Why the needlessly confrontational attitude? :)
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@staC-wh6ik Nope. Scientific racism was not developed by the "ruling power" at the time. It was invented by academics in universities. The ruling power were inspired by these academics, not the other way around. The idea of racial categorization dates as far back as to Carl von Linnaeus and his Systema Naturæ where he endavoured to categorize the species of all plants and animals on earth. Which included humans. Modern scientists still use his methods to determine species and sub-species of plants and animals today.
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@AfronautWasTaken Lol! Yeah, sure. I'm the one who "grew up among propaganda". And you're the "critical thinker" here. 🤣 It's hilarious how lacking in self-awareness you are.
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@lif3andthings763 Is actor Samuel L Jackson white or black?
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