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Comments by "Seven Proxies" (@sevenproxies4255) on "Swedish K Comparison: Model m/45 v m/45B" video.
@lavrentivs9891 But that's still 2 years in prison for defending yourself against two people trying to kill you. Oh and let's not forget: any criminal record means all your gun licenses go bye bye. So I would NOT bank on any Swedish court letting you off the hook when using a firearm for self defense. No matter how clear and open and shut a case might be.
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@SonsOfLorgar Just to give you an example that isn't even gun related: a woman got violently assaulted by a man several years ago, and another man intervened. He saw her being attacked and grabbed a tire iron and hit the man assaulting the woman. He got sentenced for using "excessive violence". The court reasoning? He hit the perpetrator with the tire iron TWICE instead of just once. And that was enough to get him slapped with an excessive violence sentencing. So you can probably imagine what would happen if you shot someone in a clear cut self-defense situation. At the end of the day, the law matters little. It all bottles down to how the law is interpreted and implemented.
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@lavrentivs9891 Why should I have to warn someone intent on killing me as they're trying to break in to murder me? It makes no sense whatsoever. So my point still stands.
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@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter You can, but you have to jump through a lot of hoops to own a gun. Also guns can't be used for self-defense at all.
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@lavrentivs9891 No, no kudos to the police whatsoevere. They retreated when they should have fired. Sets a bad example when you allow violent rioters to get their way and be allowed to throw rocks at police, burn cars and destroy stuff with impunity. If you act like that, you should be shot. You made the choice to risk your own life by doing that, not the police.
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@SonsOfLorgar Legally speaking, yes. But at the same time, the courts being the way they are, it's almost impossible to get off scot free if you shoot someone with a firearm as a regular civilian. Even if the situation is within legal bounds. Both the courts and the police take a dim view of civilian gun ownership in general. Which is why the asinine Rikspolisstyrelsen is constantly pushing for rolling back gun rights all the time by incrementally extending the limitations of gun ownership. The institutions are always against you basically as a gun owner, even if the law technically permits you to get a license to own a firearm.
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@SonsOfLorgar The only claims I made about the law have been correct so far. If you're going to argue that i'm wrong about something, then you best quote me first.
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@lavrentivs9891 Then you don't know about guard duty or law enforcement i'm afraid. ZERO police forces in the world (including swedish police) are taught to "prefarably shoot a suspect in the leg". Aiming for anything but center of mass is considered dangerous and discouraged of not outright forbidden. So whenever a cop or a guard armed with a weapon draws it, they're going to shoot to kill, as they have been instructed to do. There is no "shoot in the leg" or "shoot in the arm" for them. It's dangerous because legs and arms present much smaller targets and they move about more compared to the center of the torso. You might end up missing the target and hitting an innocent bystander behind them if you do. And no, it makes no sense to expect a civilian without training to have the presence of mind to issue "warning shots" when two people are currently trying to break into their home trying to kill them. That's why courts are utterly idiotic. They sit around and expect an untrained civilian to have the same disciplined mind as a trained professional in situations that even put trained professionals to the test, and then they sit there and think that they can pass judgement on someone who was in a life threatening situation, when the judges and lawyers themselves have never experienced anything similar.
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@znail4675 There is no such thing as "suited". Anyone who do not have a criminal record should be more than welcome to own a gun. I don't care about your objections.
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