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Comments by "Seven Proxies" (@sevenproxies4255) on "Analyzing Evil: Alex DeLarge From A Clockwork Orange" video.
I don't see the Ludovico technique as immoral. "Punishment" is only really useful on people where they know they've done something wrong and have regrets about it. For them, punishment is deserved and there's a slim chance of rehabilitation. But for people like Alex, rehabilitation is impossible in real life. Nor would it be moral to LET them rehabilitate and re-join society. It would go against justice to do so, since their victims definitely can't just "rehabilitate" from the trauma they've been put through by people like Alex. So in the real world I'd basically say that people like Alex should just be executed. They are irrevocably dangerous and the problem they pose can only be solved through permanent censure. The Ludovico technique at least offers a way where those individuals needn't be executed.
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@PrinceAliTheGreatest Revenge is justice And the reason why our modern societies has such extremely low public trust in the justice systems is because justice systems coddle criminals and don't give victims the real kind of closure they need.
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@PrinceAliTheGreatest No psychopathy is not "treatable" and yes it is a personality disorder that Alex definitely possess.
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@PrinceAliTheGreatest It goes against justice because the victims of the offender haven't been paid back. Making the offender "rehabilitated" doesn't help the victims, it only helps the offender. Nobody is going to support a "justice system" long term that HELPS offenders and leave victims in the dirt.
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@PrinceAliTheGreatest But what we have now is you steal my bike and crash it. Then the authorities "rehabilitate" you from your criminal ways so you won't steal my bike again, and then just release you into society again. Meanwhile i'm still standing there without a bike, having been given no compensation while you're enjoying your freedom again. A "justice" system like that is doomed to fail long term because you'll end up with millions of law abiding people with their bikes crashed, given no compensation or closure. The feelings of victims matters in criminal cases. Anyone foolish enough to ignore it will end up paying dearly for it in the end when civil wars break out.
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@PrinceAliTheGreatest But that's not happening in real life. Most convicted felons skimp out on paying reparations or damages, either by being broke or because legislation compelling them to do it is too weak
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@aditishenai4440 But that wouldn't work on Alex, because he's a psychopath. If you "forgave" him of his crimes, he'd just go out and commit more. If you imprison him for life, he wouldn't feel "guilty", he would just be resentful towards the establishment for taking away his freedom. They don't experience remorse or regret out of normal human empathy towards the hurt they caused their victims. The only time they regret something is because their actions lead to them getting punished for them. Basically, the psychopaths regret is reserved purely for that which hurts the psychopath in any way, shape or form. Never for the things that hurt their victims. Also, I don't think a moral state should refrain from using violence. State violence is justified in many different occasions, like during war, policing and the executions of violent criminals.
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