Comments by "Patrick Cleburne" (@patrickcleburneuczjsxpmp9558) on "Why Are so Many Confederate and Columbus Statues Coming Down?" video.

  1. There were Ohioans (and plenty of other Northerners) that believed in America's great founding principles, that just government rests on the consent of the governed. As Lincoln said in 1848: "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable - a most sacred right - a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world." As the abolitionist, George Bassett, wrote in 1861: "But it is forgotten, that the true glory of our government—the queen beauty of our system is, that it ceases with the will of the people... Their is the old European, and not the American, idea of government... A government which is strong by the exercise of military power over its own citizens, is not a free government, but a despotism." As far as Ohioans, in particular, hardly any ever directly sympathized with the Confederacy, but there were plenty that opposed the war and Lincoln's suppression of political dissent, including a former US congressman, that had been imprisoned purely for political dissent, which wasn't uncommon during the war but because of his prominence as a former congressman people objected to his imprisonment, so Lincoln then had him deported from the country, and despite being an exile he was nominated in absentia for governor and won right at the percentage of votes for governor in 1863 that Lincoln had won in his presidential election.
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  2.  @freetaykgang4045  :)
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  3. Lincoln fought to end slavery? You should read his first inaugural address, written after the first seven southern states had seceded and formed the Confederacy and right before the start of the war. Here's an excerpt: "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
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  4. Name one good reason for taking them down.
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  5. You a big fan of centralized government and crony capitalism?
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  6. And most slaves in the South sympathized with their own states more than the Union and continued to do so as long as they lived.
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  7. Lincoln pretty well got rid of the Declaration of Independence in 1861.
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  8.  @vickymmm6023  If they understood they represent a defense of the right of self-government, particularly in opposition to exploitative Yankee crony capitalism, why do you think they want to take them down?
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